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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Falun Alien Perspective]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s nice to have a seemingly benevolent message to counteract all the &quot;evil demons&quot; that no-one can prove or disprove exist, and many cultures have a superstitious belief in. How convenient. <br />Teach a bright young kid that demons and Buddhas are fighting in space and his marvelously creative young mind will fabricate awesome realities out of that programming. Just like heaven is &quot;somewhere else&quot; for millions of Chistians. Belief works this way.</p><p>I get turned off after the 4th or 5th paragraph of anyone telling me &quot;how it is&quot;, that cannot be verified by my own investigation.</p><p>I did have an encounter with a demon once...in hyperdimension/lucid dream, tho&#039; it may just be the mind&#039;s way of rendering confused STS energy/conditioned programs in the brain. When he was in front of me in any direction i turned, I realized it was &quot;me&quot;, and embraced his hideous form...he disappeared, saying &quot;goodbye Jay&quot; as if an old friend!<br />If there&#039;s a supposed positive them there also must be a negative to balance it. The mind tends to work in pairs of opposites, Yet the universe does not require that we see and understand things in this way. It is a created reality, like most, has another truer layer beneath it, till there is nothing, blissful silence and energized emptiness. </p><p>Don&#039;t assume that this level is unreachable to &quot;the mind&quot;. <br />Now there will be some chart mapping out where this level is and how it is in relationship to the others, but the mind-ground&nbsp; is beyond relation, and all this merely appears in that space of awareness.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Indeed Lono, another Guru strutting his stuff.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-08-07T17:58:53Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Already covered here at NR - </p><p><a href="http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=2520">http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=2520</a></p><p>and</p><p><a href="http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=1801&amp;p=2">http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic. … 01&amp;p=2</a></p><p>and</p><p><a href="http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=2097">http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=2097</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-07-27T18:46:07Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It was all well and good until he started on about how he has the power to clean people, and only if you follow him, yada yada yada.&nbsp; &nbsp;I have no love for self-proclaimed messiahs.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://e.deviantart.com/emoticons/m/movingon.gif" alt="http://e.deviantart.com/emoticons/m/movingon.gif" /></span></p><p>It seems that the idea of &quot;replacing humanity&quot; because we&#039;re &quot;not worth saving anyway&quot; is a disturbing&nbsp; trend among some of these more recent cults.&nbsp; Pffttbbttt!!!...oops, think I got some spit on the monitor....&nbsp; Anyhow, that avenue of belief is horribly dangerous and <strong>wrong</strong>, imo.&nbsp; It&#039;s just another one of those &quot;resistance is futile&quot; / &quot;the future has already been decided for you before you came here... you&#039;ve just forgotten, so don&#039;t bother fighting back, silly human&quot; mindsets.... Another method of control and ties in with Lipstick Mystic&#039;s thread regarding Contracts.&nbsp; It seems that now (if we really <em>are</em> in the beginning phases of &quot;the end times&quot;), those slimy little neg&#039;s are going to work on any level that will entertain their dastardly paradigms, and they just loooooove perverting any of our spiritual networks through &quot;religion&quot;.&nbsp; Bleh!</p>]]></content>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Falun Alien Perspective]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p><p>This is the perspective on aliens as taught by Falun Dafa, sounds very similar to alot of the alien material here already:</p><br /><p>Question: Teacher said that when the universe was cleaned up, there were alien beings who escaped onto the earth. Do they exist in the form of possessing spirits or in some other form?</p><p>Teacher: Let me first explain what alien beings are all about. You know that this Earth isn’t the only planet with life in this universe, and Earth hasn’t existed just this once. I’m saying that at Earth’s position there were Earths that existed before. Those previous Earths were discarded. Some exploded. It happened many times–the number has been quite large. The final stage of an Earth has always been a time when its lives were the most corrupt and its matter was the most impure, so the Earth could no longer be kept. </p><p>It would be eliminated since the whole sphere had turned into a ball of karma. The reason is, lives reincarnate. They reincarnate into soil, rocks, plants or matter, and regardless of what they are reborn as, they carry karma with them. Earth would become a ball of karma when karma was all over the place, so at that point it would be eliminated. There would still be some people on Earth who were relatively good, and those exceptionally few or extremely few ones were taken and placed onto another planet within the Three Realms.</p><p>Yet through the ages this Earth has been replaced innumerable times and each time there were people who remained. So over time those remaining lives increased in number. The gods in each time period created humans with a different appearance, so the differences are quite substantial, and there are some who were created on other planets. These are alien beings.</p><p>They’ve become like a record of history, placed there like a page of history left behind. That’s the function they serve, a minor one. They were left behind from the final stage of Earth during those times, and took with them the technology they had in those times over to other planets, so their starting point was more advanced. Over this long period of time, the knowledge of the universe they came to grasp far exceeds that of the inhabitants of today’s Earth. </p><p>Their bodies can enter other dimensions and adjust to the mode of those dimensions they are in; they’ve developed to this stage. Those things they ride in that fly back and forth–those aircraft that human beings call flying saucers–can enter other dimensions and fly into other space-times. </p><p>If they travel in a fast space-time, after being there for just a short while they traverse a long distance. So that speed is inconceivable to human beings. The types of fuel they use aren’t in the least the kinds of substances conceivable by the technology, theories, or concepts of modern science.</p><p>Over the ages, these alien beings have continually been developing and metamorphosing. So in this universe there have really appeared the abnormal social relations that these kinds of lives have. Greed and lust have caused something like star wars to actually happen over where they live. They haven’t yet threatened humankind because humankind doesn’t have the ability to pose a threat to them. So they haven’t attacked humankind. </p><p>They would attack humankind if you were to threaten them. Although alien beings haven’t attacked humankind, they know that a human body is the most perfect. They’ve thus taken a fancy to the human body and want to steal it. </p><p>They saturate all domains of humankind with science to make human beings firmly believe in science and rely on it. When human beings’ thoughts and way of existence are completely assimilated to theirs, they just have to replace people’s souls and humans will become them, and they will eventually replace the human race.</p><p>It’s a long story. They have been coming here full-scale since the beginnings of the Industrial Revolution in the West. They had come prior to that time, but they didn’t control people then. Their full-scale arrival began when Caucasian society entered the industrial age. They made full preparations and systematic arrangements for occupying this earth. It was they who created science for human beings. So this science was set up by aliens. </p><p>Their purpose was to unify human beings and simplify their thoughts to the point of being as uniform as machines. And they unified knowledge to make it easy for them to later on control and replace human beings. Furthermore, they’ve chosen a few nationalities as the vanguards of their future, total control of humankind. Japan is the vanguard that drives technology. </p><p>The United States is the vanguard in breaking away from all ancient cultures on earth. The cultures of even the most ancient and closed-off nations haven’t been able to escape. The whole world is being impacted by America’s modern culture. England was the vanguard in the manufacture of machinery during the early stages, and Spain was the vanguard for mixing the human races. </p><p>The way alien beings get human beings to shake free of the gods is to mix the races, causing human beings to become rootless people, just like the plant hybrids people make nowadays. South Americans, Central Americans, Mexicans and some people in South East Asia–all of these races have been mixed. None of this can evade the gods’ eyes. Alien beings have made rather extensive preparations for overtaking human beings.</p><p>Everyone who knows how to operate a computer has been registered. Of course, our students don’t have this problem. Once you obtain the Fa, I clean up that layer of your body that’s been occupied by them. They have formed a layer of their body within the human body. It’s incredibly frightening! Everything people learn from elementary school right up through college is the science they brought, and everything that human beings use nowadays is the product of this omnipresent science. </p><p>Why do the inspirations people get make computers and technology develop with such tremendous speed? It’s done by that layer of the body that alien beings formed so as to control the human race. It’s exactly because that system of their technology and science that has formed in the human body is making people’s minds do so. </p><p>Today it’s incredible how developed computers are. But it is not a human technology. Man will be replaced by alien beings if it continues like this for long. But think about it, everyone: Alien beings are, after all, beings within the Three Realms, where ordinary humans are. There are other reasons why they dare to do this sort of thing. It has happened because the Fa of the universe has deviated and gods no longer look after things. So it has to do with high-level beings as well. If this situation is to be turned around, it has to begin from high levels. </p><p>That’s because they have this idea that human beings are no longer any good, their morality has degenerated, and everything is perverted. So they think it’s all right to just replace them, given that they are going to be eliminated all the same. Buddhas are merciful to people because Tathagatas and Bodhisattvas are closest to humankind–they’re the lowest-level Buddhas. When Buddhas who are many levels above that level of Buddhas stop and take a look, Tathagatas are to them likewise ordinary people. </p><p>Then what are human beings to them? Human beings count for nothing. When they see that human beings are no longer good, they just destroy them and start over. That’s their thinking. Mercy to them is not towards human beings but towards Buddhas. When gods at even higher levels stop and take a look, human beings are nothing to them and more trivial than microorganisms. </p><p>You see the idea here, right? Some people are even saying, “Teacher, you should save us such-and-such way.”&nbsp; To that I reply, “So you think that if a Buddha doesn’t save you he’ll suffer withdrawal, just as if he were addicted to doing that?”&nbsp; That’s not how it is. Buddhas [save people] only out of their mercy upon people, upon you. People want to choose, they want to be saved in some specific ways, and they want to cultivate in certain ways. They don’t know what they’re talking about.</p><p>That’s the situation as far as alien beings go. They are being swept out up there, and they found out about the cleaning, so they scurried over here, and in particularly large numbers in recent years. Yet they don’t know that this thing I’m doing has been systematically arranged, so no matter where they run to they can’t escape. They have to pay for all of the bad things they’ve done, for sure. The principles of this universe are absolutely reasonable toward any life. </p><p>So they have to answer for everything they’ve done. As for how their lives will eventually be dealt with, alien beings definitely won’t exist in the future. If there are truly good ones among the alien beings, then their lives can reincarnate as other lives. Bad lives will be eliminated. So every thing that every being does positions himself for the future. And that includes all human beings. Whatever a human being does positions him.</p><p>As of right now, most of the alien beings who have come here did so fleeing for their lives. They knew that in the end it would be hard for them to escape, so some alien beings have married Earth dwellers. But it’s not that they marry legitimately, because no one would marry them. They catch a village woman to leave behind their offspring. And there are those who are hiding among ordinary people. </p><p>They can’t stay under cover no matter how they hide. Immense gong is coming up from the microscopic level. Whether it be steel, iron, wood, the human body, water, rocks, air, plants, animals, substances, etc., from the microscopic level of everything gong is coming up toward the surface. Tell me, where could they escape to? The gong is omnipresent and rushing up to the surface. </p><p>So they’ve seen that there is no way to dodge it or to hide from it. How do they exist? They aren’t actually possessing spirits. But some of them have assumed man’s appearance and walk the streets. You have no idea who they are. Some have hidden and don’t come out. But the number is now small, very small. In the past they could hide, and their flying saucers could fly up and go to another dimension. But the other dimensions have all been cleaned up. </p><p>Immense gong is rushing here and they can no longer hide. They can only hide in a cave or at the bottom of the sea in this dimension. Even so, they can’t stay concealed. Anyway, that’s the problem they face. All lives are positioning themselves in this affair.</p><p>from:</p><p><a href="http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/switzerland1998.htm">http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/switzerland1998.htm</a></p>]]></content>
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