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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Theory on Reality]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Found something that really fits in with this, an article entitled &quot;What do you really desire?&quot; by Jon Rappoport at nomorefakenews.com.</p><p>Jon is one of my favorite writers, and I will say he summed up, for me, what I had been thinking about the &quot;control&quot; side of&nbsp; religions in general. The limiting factors.....</p><p>It really is quite simple, but some of us, ahem! (me) need it spelled out. It is beginning to make more sense, the notion of creation vs. reality vs. outside manipulation. I highly recommend any of Jon&#039;s recent articles in his archive section.<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; J</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[transient]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-07-25T03:07:52Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Theory on Reality]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Very nice, z3n3rg.&nbsp; Very Toltec.&nbsp; All that judging and labeling actually comes from the parasite that controls our thoughts.&nbsp; As we starve the parasite out of existence, the urge to judge and label simply fall away.&nbsp; After walking that path for awhile I found that I didn&#039;t even use the words good and evil any more.&nbsp; Certainly I didn&#039;t think of them in the same way as before.&nbsp; There are infinite points of view and perspectives on existence, so how can I judge based on my single point of view.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Soloflecks]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-07-23T16:57:53Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>GibbleTronic wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>&quot;evil&quot; is usually almost completely subjective</p></blockquote></div><p>I think evil is a very overused word and is used in so many different contexts that it blurs the specific meaning intended by its user.<br />So I agree that it can be very subjective if the definition isn&#039;t put down by the user. </p><p>If you wanted to express that you were rewarded $1 billion dollars from a lottery company to another person and you said: &#039;I got $1 billion dollars from this lottery company.&#039; Since the word &#039;got&#039; is such a basic word it does not specify exactly what is meant by this. Therefore certain meanings must be expressed with the specific and right words OR overused/basic words with full explanation of their connotations in order for the connection from form (the word) and essence (the meaning) to be there.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Hildegarde]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-07-23T03:57:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Theory on Reality]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Interesting ideas here...</p><div class="quotebox"><cite> wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hildegarde wrote:<br />But in order to bend Laws you need to:<br />*Be aware of the Law<br />*Understand the Law<br />*Understand the Law until you learn how to bend it<br />*Bend the Law. You can only do this if you understand how it works deeply. </p><p>So by internalising the Law, and making it a part of your Being and Self, you become one with it, so then you decide to use it or not.</p><p>*You should face evil.<br />*You can learn from anything including evil.<br />*Obtain knowledge if the benefits exceed the costs<br />*Quest for power = more power = more energy = more growth = more creativity = more joy</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;ve considered these thoughts for a long time and what the heck, it&#039;s a good time to share. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>In terms of understanding Law, it tends to be subjective to those who are able to transcend it. The problem is that most have no idea about what they actually are doing most of the time they do it. Understanding consequences is the key to this sort of transcendence, since most problems arise when unintended consequences result from deliberate actions made to the contrary. This isn&#039;t always a bad thing, since if it wasn&#039;t for this sort of system, 4D STS would have overrun this planet a long time ago.</p><p>As for understanding law as we do here, consider that we&#039;re only seeing a bit of what is really out there. The real problem is the same one that is faced by our leading scientists when contemplating the universe. It isn&#039;t that they don&#039;t know a lot, they know a considerable amount of stuff and can postulate about a lot more, but the stuff that they don&#039;t know about is considerably greater, and the stuff that they not only know nothing about, but have absolutely NO IDEA that it exists at all completely dwarfs the previous two groups. The main reason is that our observations, reasoning, and thinking is designed for the understanding of our 3D experience, yet so many things are true &quot;there&quot; which have a very difficult time translating into something that makes sense &quot;here.&quot; The result is that while &quot;we&quot; may see something one way and celebrate it, &quot;they&quot; may see the same thing and wonder how we could be so greedy/shortsighted and/or stupid.</p><p>As for the current discussion of Law and freewill, here it seems to be governed by what one can get away with in terms of our transitory understanding, but never forget that all things here create a resonance elsewhere where you can&#039;t get away with ANYTHING that you&#039;re even remotely aware of. It is then when you may realize that this life was just a test to see what you&#039;d do with a REAL life. </p><p>Btw, IMO, &quot;evil&quot; is usually almost completely subjective, especially when concerning non-3D concepts. Bad for translations.</p><p>Consider: Is something that once caused you pain and suffering &quot;evil&quot; if it teaches you essential lessons which ultimately enable you to achieve freedom/transcendence? Loving parents can knowingly place their children into deadly peril if they know that everything has been done to prepare the children for survival in that enviornment.</p><p>Once the underlying principles are understood and applied, most find that flowing with the current is far easier than swimming against it. The trick is being able to &quot;tap in&quot; and find the eddies when you get tired...</p><p>-3G</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[GibbleTronic]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-07-22T07:26:13Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Twistd wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>so basically it comes down to this: Anything can be used in the pursuit of power.</p></blockquote></div><div class="quotebox"><cite>Twistd wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Nothing is good nor evil, but thinking makes it so. -shakespeare</p></blockquote></div><p>I will quote the villian from the first Harry Potter movie -</p><p>&quot;There is no good or evil, there is only power . . . and those too weak to seek it.&quot;</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Xenopope]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-07-22T05:26:47Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>As of right now, im done posting on this forum. I will continue to log in and read what is said, and i will still go into the IRC chat, but i feel as if ive found out all i came here for. You have all been a great help, but tonight i felt something, and while i cant really explain it, i will say that certain doors have just opened to me, and i understand exactly what you are talking about when you say one must avoid evil. A benevolence the likes of which i have never felt has just washed over me, and i feel as if im barely rooted in this world, i feel as if im about to float away. I hope you will continue this thread, and give thought to the ideas presented here. </p><p>Thank you all very much for your enlightening statements.</p><p>Goodbye <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Twistd]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-07-22T05:17:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Theory on Reality]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Nothing is good nor evil, but thinking makes it so. -shakespeare</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Twistd]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-07-22T03:39:12Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>my goal in this isnt pure intellectual discussion. Im trying to shake some viewpoints, make people really put some thought into how they feel, see what they really think. I want people to take to heart what has been said here, and i want them to give certain things here a try. Open yourself up to new ideas. My advice is, Don&#039;t knock it till you try it, and you should try everything at least once. You have a good point hildegarde. If people are only reading this for the sake of something to do, its a waste of time. You can only gain wisdom through experience, im just trying to present some new things to try.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-07-22T01:53:51Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Experience, understanding and knowledge teaches you wisdom.<br />Wisdom truly changes you.<br />Pure intellectual discussion only teaches you knowledge.<br />It doesn&#039;t get you anywhere far.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Hildegarde]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-07-22T01:46:30Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>LipstickMystic wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You and I are wired differently. End of story.</p><p>We express ideas differently and have vastly different worldviews about energy.</p></blockquote></div><p>I can understand that, and respect it. I just hope in the future you will bring your points against my ideas up here. I would like to find out why you feel the way you do, and in what ways you disagree with me. I will never outright reject an idea, and i find it extremely helpful to see all points of view, even if they clash with mine.</p><br /><br /><p>Nice quote limukala </p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Titmouse_ wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>, Evil is mental illness: a void Hell-- control, confusion, conflicted values, self-deception, pretense</p></blockquote></div><p>Cool way of viewing it. I take this as evil is being dishonest with yourself, which, when you think about it, makes a lot of sense. I cant really think of anything more damaging then not being honest with yourself. </p><br /><p>For anyone that hasnt seen it already, check out titmouse_&#039;s topic on Pursuit of the Truth Within. It compliments a few of my points nicely <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /> Find it at <a href="http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=3716">http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=3716</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-07-22T01:33:24Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Im climbing<br />The walls to where good and evil<br />make amends&quot;</p><p>Ween</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[limukala]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-07-21T19:54:42Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi Twistd,</p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Twistd wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Ive been reading the different topics, and a lot of people are basically bad mouthing certain things that have been said on this forum, so let me clear something up once and for all.</p><p>I don&#039;t give a damn if you feel the need to say things like</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>quote wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>But I think people need to sharpen their energy sensitivity so they can start discerning EVIL and stop pussyfooting around categorizing it as some intellectual things.</p></blockquote></div><p>or</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>quote wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thank you.&nbsp; I came *this* close to geting on NR earlier this morning and saying a near identical comment, regarding the recent spate of posts here at NR regarding &quot;What is good?&quot;&nbsp; &quot;What is evil?&quot; and &quot;oh, the folly of labeling!&quot; and all this going in circles, and what basically amounts to a whole lot of intellectual masturbation.&nbsp; Your comment works just as well though.</p></blockquote></div><p>But you could at least have the respect and the courage to bring it up in the topic relating to it, instead of practically bad mouthing it on a thread that is unrelated.</p><br /><p>Maybe this will convince some people to stop hiding from a retort. Thank you, that is all.</p></blockquote></div><p>Hi Twistd,</p><p>You and I are wired differently. End of story. </p><p>We express ideas differently and have vastly different worldviews about energy.&nbsp; </p><p>And those of us who have dealt with life and death struggles against evil, and WON THEM, and have proceeded to work with thousands of other people and helped THEM DO THE SAME are not going to really resonate with a &quot;does evil exist, or why should we resist evil&quot; point of view. You know, the old Aleister Crowley &quot;do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law&quot;/Thelema thing.&nbsp; </p><p>That said, there&#039;s probably some value in having that discussion from another level. Go to it.&nbsp; I just don&#039;t have anything to contribute to that. And I wish you well with your own exploration.</p><p>LipstickMystic aka Jennifer</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[LipstickMystic]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-07-21T18:55:40Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Theory on Reality]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Hildegarde wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Again it depends on what you define as evil. People have different interpretations of evil. One might think a turtle, a lollypop man or even a demon as evil.</p><p>*Quest for power = more power = more energy = more growth = more creativity = more joy</p></blockquote></div><p>Evil is mental illness: a void Hell-- control, confusion, conflicted values, self-deception, pretense</p><br /><p>&quot;A great warrior is a servant to the soul; self-revealed not for power or the glory of the victory, but for the passion of the quest. Passion being the life energy of the soul.&quot;<br />~~carefulcarpenter</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a371/titmouse_/warrior02a.jpg" alt="http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a371/titmouse_/warrior02a.jpg" /></span></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-07-21T16:16:02Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>so basically it comes down to this: Anything can be used in the pursuit of power.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Twistd]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-07-21T09:44:51Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>twistd wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Why should a person avoid evil? Why cant you learn from evil? How far are you willing to go to gain knowledge? Everything ive seen on this forum is related to a quest for power, and my question is, how far are you willing to go to obtain that kind of power?</p></blockquote></div><p>Again it depends on what you define as evil. People have different interpretations of evil. One might think a turtle, a lollypop man or even a demon as evil.</p><p>*You should face evil.<br />*You can learn from anything including evil.<br />*Obtain knowledge if the benefits exceed the costs<br />*Quest for power = more power = more energy = more growth = more creativity = more joy</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Hildegarde]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-07-21T08:39:21Z</updated>
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