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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Hermeticism and Magick]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.lava.net/~pagios/interv.html">http://www.lava.net/~pagios/interv.html</a></p><p>A question given to Bill during an interview regarding the path of magick.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Bill Mistele wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>ZS: As an experienced magician, can you give some advice to all people taking the path of magic, using Bardon&#039;s system, and to those who are using some other? What are the most important points? What are the most common mistakes? </p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp; In a nutshell, I think each individual has to determine how much time and effort to give to the practice of a spiritual or magical system.&nbsp; If you give too much time to the spiritual, you then fail to develop your own personal interests and discover your place in history and your role in the society where you live.&nbsp; &nbsp;The net result is that you end up becoming like or a part of someone else&#039;s ideals and spiritual goals rather than those which express who you are.&nbsp; You serve a purpose or organization but it is not the one you could have discovered and which underlies your reason for incarnating.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;And if you give too little to your training and practices, you limit the creativity and influence you could have in the world by being motivated from a higher level and gaining access to insights only possible to those who see the world through divine eyes.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Again, I think our age is a great place for discovering what works best for you as an individual and you as an individual get to make your own decision and delight in pursuing your own path of life.</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Hermeticism and Magick]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.lava.net/~pagios/answers.htm">http://www.lava.net/~pagios/answers.htm</a></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Bill Mistele wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Question.&nbsp; Is there a simple way to learn magick without having to do all the occult exercises?</p><p>Answer.&nbsp; Yes.&nbsp; You take three minutes to three hours each day of your life.&nbsp; With this time, you imagine you are different things.&nbsp; The order does not really matter.&nbsp; What matters is that in the beginning you follow your interests and then branch out into every conceivable image. </p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; Imagine you are other people--all kinds of people.&nbsp; Think of people you know, people from history, people from the future, and various ethnic and religious groups.&nbsp; &nbsp;Imagine you are every kind of animal and things from nature--trees, bugs, mountains, stones, minerals, seas, clouds, planets, stars, and so forth.&nbsp; Later on, imagine too that you are different spirits.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; As you do this exercise, notice carefully the effect of the imagery on your mind, feelings, and body.&nbsp; Notice how each of your five senses is shaped and extended by the exercise.&nbsp; At some point in your practice, you should be able to notice that if you imagine you are a seal or another person, you can get impressions that are not a function of your imagination.&nbsp; &nbsp;Holding the image of something in your mind without distraction, you form a psychic connection.&nbsp; This link can be extended and developed.&nbsp; It turns into telepathy, clairvoyance, and clairsentience.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; This exercise is part of the study of omnipresence.&nbsp; Under the law of love, you are free to join with anything in the universe.&nbsp; This is no limit on or exception to this rule.&nbsp; You open your mind and heart and become one with anything and everything that exists.&nbsp; This is a basic exercise if not the basic exercise in magick as I understand it.&nbsp; It is worth learning and practicing for a life time.</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-08-25T13:08:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Hermeticism and Magick]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.lava.net/~pagios/problems2.htm">http://www.lava.net/~pagios/problems2.htm</a></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Bill Mistele wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>When I think of Bardon’s practices, I think of them as walking an individual into the depths of the spiritual world.&nbsp; For me, this is serious stuff.&nbsp; It is not New Age.&nbsp; It is not cool.&nbsp; It is not neat.&nbsp; It is not a hot system or a really in thing to do.&nbsp; </p><p>I consider Bardon’s system so dangerous that I have never recommended to anyone that they practice Bardon or buy his books.&nbsp; I have a web site where I share my experiences.&nbsp; I feel am “authorizedÃ¯Â¿Â½&nbsp; by the spiritual world to share my experiences but I am not a promoter or salesman.</p></blockquote></div><p>Edit: From the same essay - </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Bill Mistele wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>[...]</p><p>Good magic involves a coordinated use of akasha, the mental plane, astral plane, and physical plane.&nbsp; There is the insight, intention, vision, and purpose of akasha.&nbsp; There is the supervision, oversight, accounting, and appraisal of methods and means of the mental plane.&nbsp; There is the energy, inspiration, motivation, and emotional involvement of the astral plane.&nbsp; And finally there is the hard work, building, and producing enduring results on the physical plane.</p><p>[...]</p><p>Early on I point out that for myself the study of magic should only be undertaken if an individual has the highest commitments.&nbsp; This means an individual is focused within akasha from the beginning.&nbsp; <strong>I would also suggest that an individual first master his everyday life before developing his senses to perceive in the invisible world. </strong></p><p>Everyday life is magic.&nbsp; It is the cauldron where our spirit is tested.&nbsp; <strong>If you have problems with work, relationships, emotions, mental clarity, physical health, work on these first.</strong>&nbsp; Dealing with these problems is the requisite training required for developing a magical will.&nbsp; And if you develop a magical will and succeed in using it to solve some great problem, akasha will still require you to succeed in everyday life in order to make further progress.</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-08-06T09:27:14Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Hermeticism and Magick]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just to confirm this, the last three posts consisted of text copied from <a href="http://www.abardoncompanion.com/">Rawn Clark&#039;s site</a>. <br />All I did was highlight some good points.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-08-02T06:08:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Hermeticism and Magick]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have put together a few paragraphs by Rawn Clark, a magician, has written about elemental equilibrium, astral projection, introspection and initiation. I have highlighted key phrases.</p><p>---------------</p><p><strong> Rawn Clark On Elemental Equilibrium </strong></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Rawn wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>&quot;Perfect balance&quot; is not an achievable goal while incarnate. The proper goal is Equilibrium. This is a continuous, lifelong process that demands constant equilibration -- it is not a static result. </p><p><strong>Equilibrium is a uniquely personal thing that is not based upon cultural pressures or the opinions of others.</strong> The details of the true magical equilibrium will look different for each magician. The point of initiation is to become your self, to the fullest, not to pattern yourself upon another&#039;s standards. <strong>Thus you will never find the answers to your own process of equilibration externally -- the only guide is your own conscience.</strong></p><p>The goal of Step One in this regard, is the construction of your negative and positive soul mirrors, not equilibrium itself. This taking stock of what IS, is the first step in the process of equilibration. Step Two begins the work of conscious self-transformation, and the process of equilibration is continuous for the rest of your days. You do reach a stage titled &quot;equilibrium&quot; (which means that equilibration becomes automatic and instantaneous), but it is still a continuous process and not a static state of perfection.</p></blockquote></div><p><strong> Rawn Clark On Astral Projection </strong></p><p>[...] I&#039;m sure some of us have heard of people Astral Projecting whether induced or spontaneously without ever having engaged in exercises found in steps 1 - 7 (of IIH).</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Rawn wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>There are several issues here. The primary issue is that what most folks title &quot;Astral Projection&quot; has very little to do with what Bardon titles &quot;Astral Wandering&quot;.</p><p>The second issue is that many folks are born with the inherent ability to separate their astra-mental body. Most often, this is an <strong>undisciplined ability</strong> and of little magical use. And, most often, it <strong>leads only to experiences that are delusional in nature</strong>. One reason why Bardon places mental and astral wandering so late in the Steps and stresses the need for the magical equilibrium, is because it <strong>takes long training to be able to separate the astra-mental body</strong> and NOT be fooled into believing that a projection from one&#039;s own psyche is objectively real.</p><p>The third issue is that the magical or Elemental equilibrium can be achieved in any number of ways other than by doing the work of IIH. IIH presents only the Hermetic approach.</p></blockquote></div><p><strong> Rawn Clark on Introspection </strong></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Rawn wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>[...]</p><p><strong>Initiation is nothing other than becoming fully conscious. Magic is nothing other than the fully conscious use of Natural Laws. A Magician is nothing other than a fully conscious person who makes fully conscious use of what Nature has provided us. </strong></p><p><strong>Awareness of self is at the root of Elemental Equilibrium.</strong> With time and practice, awareness of self becomes a habit and eventually not a moment passes without your being precisely aware of yourself.</p><p>Introspection is the first step in that process, but with time, introspection (which starts out as a special thing) becomes constant awareness of self. It takes no thought. It&#039;s automatic. An integral part of being.</p><p>[...]</p><p><strong>The Elemental Equilibrium is a dynamic state of active and constant awareness of self.</strong> Nothing within the self transpires without full conscious awareness. Each thought is evaluated as it occurs. Each emotion is evaluated as it occurs. And the only change that occurs in reaction to thoughts, emotions or events, occurs with one&#039;s full conscious awareness. In other words, the balanced individual is not thrown about willy-nilly by events or intruding thoughts.</p><p>This is why it is called &quot;equilibrium&quot;. It is the solid foundation. The ground of self upon which the initiate stands and meets life. Just like in Tai Chi, if you stand in balance, then you can shift with external pressures without being toppled over or moved against your will.</p><p>The Elemental Equilibrium is not so much a discipline as it is a choice. I choose to remain grounded in myself. <strong>In order to remain grounded I have to continuously express my truest nature as clearly as possible. In order to know my own true nature, I must remain continuously aware of self. </strong>And this does not limit me since Self is limitless.</p><p>By focusing inward, we find the Infinite.</p><p>And by focusing inward we find the guide that replaces cultural dictates or even thinking -- our conscience. This is what should guide us to, and guide us during the maintenance of, our Elemental Equilibrium, not what we are brought up to think is right or what someone else tells us is right.</p><p>Our conscience is the voice of our &quot;Holy Guardian Angel&quot;, speaking to us in every moment of our existence. It never misleads. It is the clarity of Self, flowing into us, seeking expression. All we need do is trust it and obey it.</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-07-30T10:13:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Hermeticism and Magick]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Question: &gt;&gt; I&#039;ve read IIH and think I understand that steady progression through the exercises in the book is like peeling an onion to get to the core of our true natures. &lt;&lt;</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Rawn Clark wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The thing about an onion is that once you get the dried skin off, the rest is pretty much all the same between the outer layer and the inner core. It&#039;s all &#039;onion&#039;.</p><p><strong>I prefer the analogy of building a house</strong>. First we excavate (introspection, the making of the Soul Mirrors) so that we can create a firm foundation. The we build our foundation (the work of Self-Transformation of the character). Then come walls, roof, plumbing, wiring, etc. (Steps Three through Five). Then when the basic structure is complete, we decorate the interior (Steps Six through Eight). Then we invite others into our new home (Step Nine and beyond). To my mind, initiation is not a matter of &#039;peeling away&#039; as much as <strong>it is a matter of &#039;re-creating anew&#039;</strong>.</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-07-30T09:51:58Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Hermeticism and Magick]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Question: &gt;&gt; My mother, who always was a great fan of Father Pio, told me he was able to be (was watched) at two different places at the same time and to act at both places at the same time consciously ...&nbsp; I ´d like to know how this is possible ... since his &quot;corporal&quot; body should be like sleeping/unconscious, if he was astral projecting?? So it must be something else (if its true...)? &lt;&lt;</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Rawn Clark wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><strong>Magical Bilocation</strong><br />© 2002</p><p>I don&#039;t know if this is true in Father Pio&#039;s case but from the hermetic standpoint it is quite possible and understandable.</p><p>Physical bilocation is accomplished by the Greater Self (pertaining to the Saturn sphere, the Greater Self is our *eternal* mental body), not by the temporal Individual or personal self. The Greater Self, which projects the Individualized mental body and thus the personal astral and physical bodies, simply projects a duplicate Individual mental body and<br />then condenses around it a matching astral and physical corpus, inserting it into the appropriate time and place.</p><p>When an adept bilocates, they will be focused at the level of their Greater Self while still functional at a physical level. In essence, the adept participates at a personal and Individual level. When in this state, it is possible to maintain concurrent conscious awareness in both bodies simultaneously, since this is a feature of the Greater Self&#039;s normal awareness. One is, in fact, in two places at the same moment with their full awareness intact. But this &quot;splitting&quot; or &quot;multiplication&quot; of awareness can only be done from the perspective of the Greater Self.</p><p>This same thing can be accomplished without the person&#039;s conscious participation at the Individual or personal level (e.g., with a non-adept who has no magical faculties, per se). This then is a more independent action stemming solely from the Greater Self and a higher need of some sort. As a consequence, the person would have no awareness of their double&#039;s actions, and vice versa.</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-07-30T09:47:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Hermeticism and Magick]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Initiation into Hermetics Table of Contents</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.abardoncompanion.com/TOCimg1.gif" alt="http://www.abardoncompanion.com/TOCimg1.gif" /></span><br /><a href="http://www.abardoncompanion.com/IIH-TOC.html">http://www.abardoncompanion.com/IIH-TOC.html</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-07-30T09:43:55Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>IN spite of the inconsistencies, I find the treatise thought provoking and as thus worthy of reading.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-07-23T14:12:25Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Starcat, for me, the only thing history teaches me is the lessons I can learn from it, not what happened.<br />There&#039;s a lot of &#039;stuff&#039; in history that has been distorted and may not be the entire truth.<br />That&#039;s why the practise is emphasized. Reading books and theory can only get you so far. </p><p>The Secret Mystery schools are at another vibrational level. You can go there if you reach a certain level in your development. You have to work on yourself to develop certain faculties in order to survive the conditions of those frequenices. That&#039;s what I believe.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-07-22T01:57:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Hermeticism and Magick]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Taken from The Stellar Man...</p><p>&quot;According to Hermetic tradition, when the Supreme Cre-<br />ator expelled man from Paradise, he punished him by <br />embedding a mechanism for hypnotic sleep in his brain in <br />order to make him an obedient servant in the vineyards of <br />the Lord. &quot;</p><p>Sounds more like YHWH again than supreme creator.</p><br /><p>Hmmm, well the Supreme creator does not punish, the notion that that could be, a blatant lie,<br />so this is some kind of distortion without a doubt.</p><p>Some of what is written here is interesting, but then we get to the inconsistencies.<br />Heremes, aka Thoth and his penchant for wanting to be worshipped.<br />One man, Moses causing the entire mess by some concantations, right.</p><br /><p>All this information about how to bend material reality around ones finger being cloistered away among certain elite mystery schools, well do tell.<br />Relative truths mixed with something else entirely, shake well.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-07-22T00:49:41Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>My recommended steps to take when undertaking this discipline:</p><p>*<strong> The Kybalion</strong>&nbsp; and <strong> &#039;Frabato the Magician&#039;</strong>&nbsp; are good introductory books to this field. <br />The Kybalion provides the philosophy and Frabato provides a fictional perspective that will show you what is possible.</p><p>*If you have time, then also read John Baines&#039; <strong> &#039;Stellar Man&#039;</strong>. It provides some theory of magic, the situation of our collective consciousness, the purposes of magic and some advice.</p><p>*Internalise the <strong>&#039;Words of Wisdom&#039; file</strong> before practising IIH. This file can be downloaded from the website in my previous post.</p><p>*<strong> Initiation into Hermetics</strong>&nbsp; is a VERY good starting point for starting the practise of Magic. This is truly a practical guide.</p><p>*For advice, explanations and help on IIH, go to the above <strong> websites, forums and commentaries</strong>. That is what they&#039;re for. <br />Rawn Clark&#039;s and William Mistele&#039;s commentaries are good ones.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-07-21T01:28:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Hermeticism and Magick]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Barefoot Doc wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Its very much based on the kabbala along with most western masonic science and majick, the question is do you assume the kabbalah to be truth or a created system from the ego of man or a system reflecting the controlling hiarchies from the astral dimension.</p><p>I was heavily into Crowley, Blavatsy, Golden Dawn and all that many years ago but after a vision on shrooms i saw all the tentacles leading to the astral prison, i had to go outside and burn all my books on the subject as a cleansing ritual. I only speak for myself here and report what happened and respect others beliefs.</p><p>Believe me you could create your own majical systems from scratch with your own demons and hiarachies and gods and you could create powerfull majical rituals yourself and philosophies to your hearts content and it would work and if you get followers it will become even more powerfull <br />Then you know its all just mental props for the mind and you are following a created system, a reality that was not yours.<br />Asylums are full of people who dabbled with majick and demons using other peoples belief systems they could have got the same results or better by inventing their own.</p></blockquote></div><p>To discuss this properly we need to understand what kabbalah is and what magic is. To understand what they are <strong> deeply </strong> you need to be in the game to know the game. So that is your choice to play the game or not and then you can decide if it works for you. But it is always good to listen to the advice of people who have experienced this path. That&#039;s why it&#039;s good to read about those who have already achieved certain levels of being. </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>http://www.hermeticresearch.org wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>From this site you can download a file called &#039;A word to the wise&#039;. This is in the download page and you need to register in order to see the downloadable files. It has tips and strategies for the &#039;magician&#039; but it also has very good tips for anyone interested in spirituality in general.</p></blockquote></div><p>Spells and rituals executed through <strong>blind faith</strong> is a major connotation of magic. I don&#039;t think this is *PROPER* magic. Magic is a science and is done with <strong>deliberation</strong> and concentration. Magic is not living in illusion. It is living in reality. It is the understanding and application of the universal laws. I think most people who do this magic &#039;imitation&#039; think that it&#039;s the easy way to get something. They think that this is the simple solution to do anything and do not actually work to get it. There are no shortcuts. To go from one state of being to another consciously (not unconsiously and sporadically), without the use of drugs or &#039;quick fix spells&#039; you need to work on yourself. Magic is working on yourself. Drugs and other dependencies only provide temporary experiences and can be extremely detrimental to your development because you give away your power.&nbsp; </p><p>If you have read IIH you will understand that this is path is a path to sanity/purity/goodness/source energy. The people who are in asylums are not connected to source energy. They are living in the delusion of their own egos. I&#039;m not saying that egos are bad, I&#039;m saying they have an imbalance. Practising IIH will balance your internal energies. But this is not cheap. It takes time.</p><p>I haven&#039;t read Crowley or any of the authors above, but I&#039;ve heard many times how Crowley books sound so good and &#039;magickal&#039; but there is no practical value in reading Crowley. So I do not recommend reading him, but you can see for yourself. He writes well but there is so much fluff involved that there is not much wisdom to glean from it. Even though I haven&#039;t read books of the above authors, I have researched the contents of their books through book reviews, word of mouth and forum posts. It seems to me that they are not as practical as IIH. </p><p>I have not yet studied kabbalah so I do not know the full implications of it. </p><p>Regarding truth, everything you perceive and understand is only relative truth if you do not understand and internalise the universal laws. You are able to speak absolute truth only when you have mastered the universal laws. Read the section on Truth in IIH. By universal laws I mean that there are some things in &#039;The All&#039; that have absolute essence and meaning in contrast to form and manifestations. This essence and form is a polarity. When you have reached the essence of all things you can speak absolute truth. This is my perspective.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Hildegarde]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-07-21T01:06:18Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Hermeticism and Magick]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Its very much based on the kabbala along with most western masonic science and majick, the question is do you assume the kabbalah to be truth or a created system from the ego of man or a system reflecting the controlling hiarchies from the astral dimension.</p><p>I was heavily into Crowley, Blavatsy, Golden Dawn and all that many years ago but after a vision on shrooms i saw all the tentacles leading to the astral prison, i had to go outside and burn all my books on the subject as a cleansing ritual. I only speak for myself here and report what happened and respect others beliefs.</p><p>Believe me you could create your own majical systems from scratch with your own demons and hiarachies and gods and you could create powerfull majical rituals yourself and philosophies to your hearts content and it would work and if you get followers it will become even more powerfull <br />Then you know its all just mental props for the mind and you are following a created system, a reality that was not yours.<br />Asylums are full of people who dabbled with majick and demons using other peoples belief systems they could have got the same results or better by inventing their own.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Barefoot Doc]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-07-20T15:11:44Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Hermeticism and Magick]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.geocities.com/franzbardon/fb_news.html">http://www.geocities.com/franzbardon/fb_news.html</a></p><p>CHECKLIST OF EXERCISES (FROM STEP ONE) TO CONTINUE DAILY</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Make a Xerox copy of this page and post it, somewhere convenient your home. The following drills should be made a permanent part of your routine as time permits, although not necessarily performed in your magic room as a formal exercise. As a general rule, one does not abandon previously completed exercises, just because he or she has started on the next Step. Rather, one&#039;s daily lifestyle becomes gradually more and more saturated with magical exercises. In this way, you will not lose the benefit of all your previous exercises. The numbers in parenthesis refer to the Step and Type and Exercise number from the Training Guide. For instance, (I-M-1) means &quot;Step 1-Mental Exercise-#1&quot;. &quot;A&quot;=Astral &quot;P&quot;=Physical</p><p>(I-M-3) THOUGHT FOCUSING While walking about or performing some chore, carefully control your thoughts so that nothing else is allowed to distract you from your intended thoughts, no matter how loudly outside thought forms may impinge against your consciousness.</p><p>(I-M-4) THOUGHT VACANCY Similar to (I-M-3) above, but with the goal being to completely force out all impinging thoughts from your environment, while holding your own mind vacant. This can be done while walking through a shopping mall or other intensely astrally polluted environment, and will keep this part of the brain firm and strong.</p><p>(I-P-1) PHYSICAL HABITS Body brushing, stretching exercises, avoiding carcinogenic substances on the body or in food, enemas, salt poison-drawing baths, distilled water, lecithin.</p><p>(I-P-2) CONSCIOUS BREATHING As often as possible during the day, practice breathing in your specific already-fulfilled desire along with the physical air element (which always contains astral fire, water, air &amp; earth) as food for the body. This can be done anywhere.</p><p>(I-P-3) EUCHARISTIC EATING &amp; DRINKING Charge all your food &amp; drink first.</p><p>(I-P-4) CONSCIOUS BODY BATHING Force out hindering astral contamination.</p><p>(I-P-5) CONSCIOUS EYE BATHING &quot;</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-07-20T04:30:53Z</updated>
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