LipstickMystic wrote:

Actually, after doing over 10,000 psychic readings with people from all over the globe, all backgrounds, levels of intelligence, types of morality/spirituality, etc., I beg to differ.

A lot of these folks were not individuals in the sense of questioning why they were here on earth or operating beyond what you might call "animal" level. They were pod people. Lovely folks oftentimes with big hearts and good intentions, and not toxic, necessarily. But POD PEOPLE.

Lipstick - several weeks ago I had a dream I didn't really share except with a couple people via chat.  Since it deals with something similar to what you say above, I will share it here:

I was at a job, at some office-type workplace, and just before lunch I was reading on a theory that 50% of the humans today have an "alien" consciousness.  I kept this to myself.  Minutes or maybe an hour later, I was in a lunchroom, eating.  Toward the end of the table on the opposite side, a guy was sitting - someone who I have seen before but I didn't know was "aware".  Without talking about what I was studying, he told me "it's actually closer to 80% are aliens.  Keep studying."

My first question is, of the many people who you've read for, what percentage would you say fit within the "pod people" phenomenon?  And would this percentage equate to the actual percentage of humans which are pod people today, or would the OP/PP types tend not to get psychic readings with you as much?

Second question, any further insight into what the guy in my dream meant?  Maybe meaning that percentage of the people have not accreted enough individual consciousness and are basically collective?  Or, perhaps were originally authentic souls wich have been subverted through conditioning, programming and externalizing their power to basically be working for the alien agenda?

cheers

Maybe we should start a thread about pod people, instead of side tracking onto that here, in a thread about animals?   It would actually make for a great thread I think, although it'll be bound to stir up some people's ire, as there are those who, as LM pointed out, would find "pod people" to be politically incorrect.     It's similar to the topic/idea of OP's, which is always guaranteed to bring out the highly emotionally charged types who lack reasoning skills, and who begin throwing around ridiculous logical fallacies such as "Oh, so what you're really saying is that we should have an OP genocide then, huh?!  Huh!?!   So that's what you're saying?!  You think we should be like Hitler and kill all the OPs?!"   It may sound absolutely crazy, but trust me, I've seen this argument used.   Or, "We're all one!   You're advocating separation and hate!"       Also, people will kick up a stink, being unable to realize that A) There are very psychic people out there and those "in the know" who  know for a *fact* that that there are pod people going on in this world, and non-human creatures masquerading as humans walking among us, even if they lack the psychic vision to be able to see it themselves, and B) there's a big difference between "noticing" that this fact is happening, in a neutral, matter-of-fact way, and then "judging," advocating hate and division, and even more extreme...advocating the Nazi/Hitler path to dealing with the situation.

Well then!  Looks like I covered all bases!    That should hopefully clear the way for this discussion to happen WITHOUT the unfortunate guaranteed crazy reactions of people who will be crawling out from under their rocks, since this *is* a full moon weekend, after all.  And what better time to start a pod people thread, a subject which always pisses people off, than during the full moon.   Good times!   haha  (you can tell I've been through it so many times....but you know what, I'd still love to see this topic discussed.  These are the juicy topics I live for around here!)

Actually, after doing over 10,000 psychic readings with people from all over the globe, all backgrounds, levels of intelligence, types of morality/spirituality, etc., I beg to differ.

A lot of these folks were not individuals in the sense of questioning why they were here on earth or operating beyond what you might call "animal" level. They were pod people. Lovely folks oftentimes with big hearts and good intentions, and not toxic, necessarily. But POD PEOPLE.

Lipstick - several weeks ago I had a dream I didn't really share except with a couple people via chat.  Since it deals with something similar to what you say above, I will share it here:

My first question is, of the many people who you've read for, what percentage would you say fit within the "pod people" phenomenon?  And would this percentage equate to the actual percentage of humans which are pod people today, or would the OP/PP types tend not to get psychic readings with you as much?

Second question, any further insight into what the guy in my dream meant?  Maybe meaning that percentage of the people have not accreted enough individual consciousness and are basically collective?  Or, perhaps were originally authentic souls wich have been subverted through conditioning, programming and externalizing their power to basically be working for the alien agenda?

cheers

[continued from When Beloved Pets Pass Over the Rainbow Bridge]
When you communicated telepathically with a human, you communicate with an unique individual.

Actually, after doing over 10,000 psychic readings with people from all over the globe, all backgrounds, levels of intelligence, types of morality/spirituality, etc., I beg to differ.

A lot of these folks were not individuals in the sense of questioning why they were here on earth or operating beyond what you might call "animal" level. They were pod people. Lovely folks oftentimes with big hearts and good intentions, and not toxic, necessarily. But POD PEOPLE.

I realize that's not politically correct to say that, but it's true. They were hivemind inviduals who might well prove the idea that certain souls do not have much individualization and might actually operate more according to Steiner's framework for the grouped souls of animals.

I assume there's a reason and a purpose behind that and that they are evolving exactly as they need to....kind of as one big glob of souls sloughing along together like cattle on the evolutional track. You would assume that beneath that is a spark of free will, a sense of spiritual sovereignty, and so forth....but I dunno. It's awfully hard to light a spark with pod people.  They are very resistant, almost to the point of not having the receptors to receive that spark and to be reminded of their uniqueness, their power, their beauty as sparks of the Divine.

Once I learned to stop trying to light a fire beneath them, I learned to enjoy and appreciate and honor them for exactly where they are now, and I genuinely enjoyed reading for them. I found them refreshing in their simplicity and lack of complication, actually. I just had to switch gears and make sure that the reading was about sex and breeding, making money, and death. Because that's all they were willing to encompass - that was the maximum breadth of their thoughts.

(*Note - there's nothing wrong with sex, breeding, making money, or thinking about death!  It's just that that is ALL pod people seem able to think about. Literally. Their eyes glaze over whenever you go towards any richer subjects.)

So where does that fit in with Steiner's view of incarnations?  Does his work encompass the idea of hivemind pod people? Where do they stand in his view of incarnations and the evolution of man? I'm asking this sincerely, because I've never studied Steiner and I don't know his work.

Again, not so. I've encountered many animals from dogs to cats to rabbits that do NOT behave as "all rotweillers/cats/rabbits" do.  VERY unique. Not trainable or responsive in the typical ways that you would associate with their breed type.

Not true. Listen to a few and you'll learn that they have their own cosmology, their own spirituality, their own clear sense of a past and a future, and all the other referential points that the more "tuned in" humans do. And again, I am not only talking about pets who have potentially become "humanized" through hanging out with humans. I'm talking about wild crows, hawks, eagles, fish, and any number of other wild animals who have shared such things with me.  And let me also say that their cosmologies are not the same as mine, either - so to hear "straight from the horse's mouth," so to speak, extensive, elaborate, intelligent ruminations on life, the universe and everything is quite an eye-opener. Very humbling and amazing.

From much of what the wild animals have shared with me, many of them will be leaving this incarnational school in years to come, which doesn't gel with the theory of them one day becoming humans living here on Earth. I think that's the last thing that many of them would want to do!

Also, from what the angels have shared with me when I've asked them about the spiritual and physical evolution of animals, I've gleaned that animals are no "less" than humans and many of them are of a higher spiritual vibration than humans are, and many of them chose to be in the bodies they are in for the unique experiences of living as that particular species. It simply suited them to be in, say, a crow's body vs. something else.

I agree that animals are very special and have their own spiritual destiny, and that there is much sacrifice involved with them given that so many of them are our food source!

Yet, as I explained in another thread about deer, ages ago when man needed to survive by taking flesh, many sacred agreements were made between species. Adn there is a balance within that that we've lost sight of. The deer agreed for man to take the old, the infirm, or the weak among its herds for food and for using the skins in clothing/shelter. etc.  In return, humans were to do "proper kills," which is a whole different subject but it involves the killing of another in a sacred way (invoking beforehand and raising spiritual energy around the deed; working with the free will of the animal; gently pushing the animal's spirit partly out of body before the actual kill so it doesn't feel any pain; and then killing with love in the heart instead of bloodlust in the mind.)

So sacrifice is involved in such an exchange, yes, yet humanity's killing of the members of the herd who wouldn't otherwise survive or who were weakened and who would otherwise pass along failed genetics (which over time would weaken the herd)....sounds like a pretty even and right exchange to me.

I don't agree with any of this, but I respect your views all the same. Thank you for sharing your viewpoints. Myself, I find the spiritual evolution and unique destiny of the animal species I've been blessed to receive information from to be compelling, attractive, and fascinating - just as legitimate and spiritually "wise" as human's evolution, sometimes even more so. And they do question their path - just talk to an animal who is dying, and you'll hear all the questions, the fears, the worries that they have - just like humans. 

LipstickMystic aka Jennifer

I would rather think, Lipstick, that you communicate with the group soul of a particular specie via one of its manifestations. When you communicated telepathically with a human, you communicate with an unique individual. If you know how a rotweller behaves, you know how all rotwellers behave, so you know how to train one. Dogs do not elaborate theories of relativity nor questionate themselves concerning the reason why they're here on earth and what is their destiny. humans do, at least when they are not spiritually sleeping because of the mechanized instincts that guides their lives.

I think what the Cs said that animals reincarnate in humans is not tue at all. Elementals will become humans in the future and will one day incarnate in human bodies, but not animals. Animals and humans were once ONE, in a far distant past. Animals, like fallen hierarchies, took the downward path. they are failed humans, they plunged too quickly in matter because of their passions. Humans that we know waited for proper ape bodies to be enough evolved in order to incarnate in these primates bodies. Animals are immature human souls which incarnated in matter before they were ripe to incarnate, and before the proper simiesque bodies were ready to welcome the human souls. We should be infinitely grateful to animals and lower forms of life because without them we just couldn't life and eat and breathe, and so on. Jesus Christ washed the feet of others, to express this truth: that some beings must sacrifice themselves in order for other beings to evolve spiritually. Without the sacrifice of animals plants and other organisms, humans couldn't be what they are and couldn't evolve on earth properly. the ascend of one group causes the fall of another group. Some seeds will take roots but million other seeds won't. It seems like nature were spoiling itself in creating millions of seeds ust to see a few actually evolve towards a higher state of being. But nature isn't cruel. This is misconception. Nature has planned that only a few will actually grow spiritually and bear fruit and become seed-carriers. All the others will perish. This is not tragic, this is life. Many will fail their spiritual ascension, but it takes only a few exceptional people to perpetuate the human race towards higher goals and greater duties.

Thanks for the links, Kaybal.  I had never actually read the "Eat Right For Your Type" book, I'd just come across references to blood type diets on the 'net.   For me, I have my own personal proof that I do need meat in my diet, so it's not based on that book.  I can't say for certain if it's because I'm O+ blood or not, but if I don't even meat I get weak, lethargic and can't think straight.  And I get the HUGE cravings for meat.  And if I go too long without protein I begin to intensly crave beef.  Medium rare hamburgers mostly.  There's something in beef /red meat that's not in poultry or fish which my body craves when my protein reserves dip too low. 

At any rate, I've found that adding black beans and brown (basmati) rice as a diet staple has helped alleviate my need for animal protein.  I can go weeks without meat in my diet and not get the cravings or the lethargy as long as I'm eating the beans and rice.   I didn't expect that actually when I first started eating it.  But I was pleasantly surprised to find this to be the case, which is why I highly recommend going that route to anybody here who is seriously looking to cut back or completely eliminate meat from their diets. 

As far as soy goes......I try to stay away from it.  That stuff scares me. 

Read thoroughly and you'll find the answers you need.

Here's a more complete article about the blood type diet:
http://www.earthsave.org/news/bloodtyp.htm

And about soy:
http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/soy

Try to be well informed before making any decision!

lets talk about souls, animals, and the different densities/dimensions of existance in relation to this.

we humans are 3d souls, which vibrate at a certain frequency. ok.

they say we are to shift UP into 4d, meaning our frequency will rise higher? meaning vibrate faster ?

thus, animals with 2d souls would have lower frequency, correct?

and plants/minerals- are these considered to have 1d souls, meaning their vibrating even lower freq. ?

OK, if i got that right, then here's my real question:

Is the Creator Source Spirit (Oneness) at the very low end of the frequency range ?
Or is it at the highest end of the spectrum ?

It seems to me that the creator source would be almost standstill, the lowest frequency.- and that animals/minerals would be closer to its range.

But, as im writing this, i began getting the feeling (answer) that the Source is on BOTH ENDS of the spectrum, the highest and the lowest, encompassing all.

...guess i answered my own question, thanks guys!
(feel free to add/comment)

I'll take a moment to plug the Bill Hicks book "Love All the People" since we're talking about him....it's a great book!   Anybody with a sense of humor who's into conspiracies and "waking up" should love this book.

I also recommend his biography which I enjoyed reading. It's called "American Scream: The Bill Hicks Story". I don't think it's as good as it could have been, but certainly worth reading if you're a Hicks fan.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ … 15-8597734

I see from your signature, Miss Lyra, that you are now converted to the Bill Hicks School of Philosophy. Good call!

And the good part is.....there are endless quotes to choose from!    Should I ever get bored with this one, there's plenty more! 

I'll take a moment to plug the Bill Hicks book "Love All the People" since we're talking about him....it's a great book!   Anybody with a sense of humor who's into conspiracies and "waking up" should love this book.

To those who believe in the "blood type" diet, check out this:

Blood Type Diet: Fact of Fiction?
http://www.earthsave.org/health/bloodtyp.htm

Also, take a look at the health section in that site and in this one: http://www.veganhealth.org/ for more information on issues like soy, iron, protein combining and so on.

Thanks for the links, Kaybal.  I had never actually read the "Eat Right For Your Type" book, I'd just come across references to blood type diets on the 'net.   For me, I have my own personal proof that I do need meat in my diet, so it's not based on that book.  I can't say for certain if it's because I'm O+ blood or not, but if I don't even meat I get weak, lethargic and can't think straight.  And I get the HUGE cravings for meat.  And if I go too long without protein I begin to intensly crave beef.  Medium rare hamburgers mostly.  There's something in beef /red meat that's not in poultry or fish which my body craves when my protein reserves dip too low. 

At any rate, I've found that adding black beans and brown (basmati) rice as a diet staple has helped alleviate my need for animal protein.  I can go weeks without meat in my diet and not get the cravings or the lethargy as long as I'm eating the beans and rice.   I didn't expect that actually when I first started eating it.  But I was pleasantly surprised to find this to be the case, which is why I highly recommend going that route to anybody here who is seriously looking to cut back or completely eliminate meat from their diets. 

As far as soy goes......I try to stay away from it.  That stuff scares me. 

Blood Type Diet: Fact of Fiction?
http://www.earthsave.org/health/bloodtyp.htm

Also, take a look at the health section in that site and in this one: http://www.veganhealth.org/ for more information on issues like soy, iron, protein combining and so on.

Boy-oh-boy! This has been a busy week!

So we went to the beach Mon., Honeymoon Island, and flew kites... it was a great windy day! It never fails to amaze me that every single time we have kites up someone is taking pictures of them. I think every single person should have their own kite!

There were some way wicked HUGE, flattish, dark roiling clouds that were moving overhead but dropped no rain, they were teardrop shaped... they looked like the underneath of them was "boiling" with smaller black and gray clouds. Weird... they were spaced apart and came in lines and looked as such that one could even say it was an "army" of clouds "marching" into the gulf waters. It made me think of the song For Whom The Bell Tolls... time marches on... on... on.... .

And the Rainbow River? On a Tuesday? We were almost the only ones on the river... except for that water cop that pulled us over! :x

There we were at the headsprings, kayak parked next to a grass bed, I was taking pictures of an Egret in a thicket of pink flowers (very pretty) and this cop comes motoring up in his boat and calls us over. We didn't have life-vests on board and were informed that could get us a $50 ticket... Thank our lucky stars we had our whistle or that would be another $50! It's a freaking class one river, DOH!, life-vests? I couldn't drown in that river if I tried.

He shared some of his vests with us in leiu of ticketing us... well that was nice!  Yeah, but still, we got Big Brother on the river too folks... what's this world comin' to?

So my poem came true, the birds stirred when I whispered, the 'gator didn't eat me (he even let me get close enough to take pictures! ... about a 5 footer it was!), and the moon and the sun we in the sky together. Pretty darn close together actually, it was cool looking.

But the best thing of all? Get a load of this! I had been looking for hawks, but hadn't seen any until we were heading back down river and I happened to turn around in the boat and look behind me, and sure enough there was hawk perched on a limb right behind us! I never would've known if I hadn't of turned around... lucky, huh?

We were able to pull the boat in much closer without fretting the hawk, and we all sat there for quite awhile. This hawk and me were eye to eye for quite a spell! We were soooo close I could've touched this hawk with my oar if I'd been an idiot. My man-critter says he thought it was a Harris Hawk, I just thought it was beautiful. It's face had a softer look to it than other hawks, it didn't look as intense as hawks can look. And talons? Woo-hoo! It's a good thing I'm not a mouse! Eeekk!

Eventually we went back to the oak tree down river, hung out for awhile, found out it was only 2 PM and decided to paddle back up river. I'll be darned if that hawk wasn't still there! Again, we sat there for awhile, looking at each other, and then we pushed off to leave. After we'd paddled for a minute the hawk came swooping over the top of the water past us and then zoom-zoomed, and I mean went zooming, into the the forest BANKING off of trees like in a really tight maze (Edit--or more to the point a pinball in a machine)! I saw it bank, with such amazing precision, off three different trees and then disappear. My mate and I both said "WHOA!!!" at the same time!

Because there were hardly any people on the river it was the best day I've ever had there.

As well, there certainly were signs of the hurricanes have taken their tolls. There was one big waterside oak that had been blown over, it's root ball must've been 15 X 10 ft.... it was huge! As well, the water level was up by 6 ft.! There's much more river there now!

You come visit anytime... me and the river are still here .

FL weather? Heeheehee... I'm feelin' so naughty

... it was 82 degrees today, no humidity, soft breeze... it has been simply marvelous even for Nov., it's usually not as perfect as it has been.... and lyra, we'll talk next August and see who's whining about weather then... while my roof may be blowin' away!

"Disabled dolphin jumping again with world's first artificial fin"
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&a … 1118170710

TOKYO (AFP) - Fuji, a mother dolphin that lost 75 percent of her tail due to a mysterious disease, is jumping once again with the help of what is believed to be the world's first artificial fin.

The 34-year-old dolphin held at Japan's largest aquarium in the southern island of Okinawa wears the rubber fin for about 20 minutes a day allowing her to jump and to swim at the same speed of other dolphins.

"We are very grateful. Although she can swim without the artificial fin, the speed is very slow and she certainly cannot jump without it," said Masaya Kowami, a breeder at Okinawa Churaumi Aquarium.

"Visitors have told us she looks happy," he said.

Fuji initially rejected the artificial fin, which in its current version weighs two kilograms (4.4 pounds) with a width of 48 centimeters (20 inches).

The breeders decided not to keep Fuji's fin on all day fearing that it may fall off and be eaten or destroyed by other dolphins.

Fuji was stricken by a mysterious disease causing necrosis - the death of cells - in 2002. To save her life, veterinarians had to amputate three-quarters of her tail with an electronic surgical knife.

"Her physical mobility fell sharply after the amputation. She got tired easily as we often saw her resting," Kowami said.

Weeks after the surgery, a veterinarian at the aquarium asked his friend at Bridgestone, Japan's largest tiremaker, for help.

"The most difficult part was creating the smooth texture of rubber so as not to scratch a dolphin's skin," said Bridgestone spokesman Shinichi Kobori.

Bridgestone began working on the fin in 2003, but several samples were either too heavy or loose for Fuji, which is 271 centimeters (nine feet) long and weighs 227 kilograms (500 pounds).

"Only after we created the lightest fin in August 2004, we received a call from the aquarium that Fuji finally jumped," Kobori said.

The latest fin is kept in one piece by bolts. Kowami, the aquarium worker, said putting on the artificial fin was anything but easy.

"When she saw the artificial fin for the first time, she ran away. She was so scared of the object. It took us five months to make her get used to the artificial fin. Now she is perfectly fine with it," he said.

Bridgestone said the artificial fin was given to the aquarium for free, but that it cost the company about 10 million yen (95,000 dollars).

The company has yet to receive any request for an artificial fin or leg for other animals but spokesman Kobori said Bridgestone is open to such requests.

"We make tires; we specialize in foots of sort. If we see offers, we will consider them," he said.

Today in FL we've been experiencing our first Nor' Easterly of the season. They say it's comin' off the Great Lakes. Shoo-whee! I was on Hwy 19 earlier doing about 55 mph and got hit with a gust... talk about knowin' you're alive and uplifted! But that's not the coolest thing...

I am missing the Florida climate right about now, let me tell you.  This morning I had to warm up my car and scrape ice off my windshield in order to go to work.      I couldn't get the windshield totally clean and had to pull my car over twice because I just couldn't see.     I'm picturing Fort Lauderdale the last time I saw it, hot and sunny, the gleaming downtown office buildings against a piercing blue cloudless sky, bright green palm trees.  (and lines at the gas stations out into the street because of the approaching hurricane....but never mind that!!!)   And it was HOT.  The hottest place I've ever lived.  I don't want that much heat ......but a little bit of heat would be nice!!  A palm frond or two!   sigh.  But that is the image of Fort Lauderdale that sticks out in my mind, it was the day we left and I was running around getting stuff done before we hit the road with the evacuees. 

Anyway, I digress.  Sorry.  I read your thing about the weather in Florida and I started to miss it and have a flashback.  I'm okay now..........hehe

I do wonder though what was up with the hawk swooping your truck??   You know over on the Goro forum somebody mentioned the strange proliferation of certain animals and odd animal behavior in general, and hawks were mentioned, at the top of the list.  I thought that was interesting and remembered it as I read your account.

Sounds like fun!   Wish I could be there!  I will live vicariously through your account.    Say hi to the Oak for me on Tuesday and when you're there on the beach, give a little thought to us refugees who had to leave Florida but wish we could be there on the beach too.   (God, I swear, I almost got in my car a couple of days ago and hit the road for Florida, for a short visit.  It's going to take some adjusting for me to get used to winter again after not having any for so long....)