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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Astrology]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Astrology is a tool to help you better understand the person you are emotionally. That&#039;s all, that&#039;s it. Its been really helpful to me, I react to people and situations better.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[slade]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-08-14T05:07:16Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Astrology]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>treehugger,<br />Yeah Brian Deflores, does a very interesting job on astrology.&nbsp; &nbsp;The beneficial foods are something to look into, sometimes, I notice that for some subtle reason I might crave these foods during the times he gives for his suggestions.&nbsp; I also notice other odd coincidences with some of the other things he mentions.&nbsp; &nbsp;I remember starting to work with the crystal angelite just before I read that recent June forecast and then saw the same stone recommended.</p><p>So there might be strange coincidences here and there with some of the things he mentions, it does make you wonder though, if those food and other items he mentions would help.</p><p>Perhaps the blue popsicle has a color your body needs at this time, or maybe the blue might help awaken your 6th chakra.&nbsp; &nbsp;That would be a &quot;riot&quot;, awakening your upper chakras with ice popsicles...lol.... but hey you never know.</p><p>PH</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[PleiadeanHealer]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-07-25T18:17:50Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Astrology]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of astrology, for those of you who follow cosmic energies, this morning was a new moon in the sign of Leo. This makes today and tomorrow great days for focusing on goals and summoning up the energy to see them through. Leo new moons have a certain bite to them, as we all respond to this Fire sign&#039;s passionate energy.</p><p>We also have a moon and Saturn conjunction later tonight, which carries a practical energy. So it will be easier to gather information through doing research, outlining financial details, etc. to back up our plans.&nbsp; But with Mercury still in retrograde until this Friday, and Mercury still in what is called its &quot;storm&quot; period until August 4th, many of us will find that it&#039;s still a little premature to set those plans in action. It&#039;s best to wait for the all clear after August 4th before pushing ahead with major stuff. I write about these influences in my Sunday, July 23rd blog entry:</p><p><a href="http://www.lipstickmystic.com/blog2.html">http://www.lipstickmystic.com/blog2.html</a></p><p>New moons are great days for doing affirmations and setting intentions because they function as a &quot;mini New Year&quot; for the month. They are great times for summoning up the energy for the reality you want to align with.&nbsp; New moon periods are also&nbsp; fun times to write yourself a new moon abundance check as a prosperity ritual or meditation. (This is best to do within three days before or after a new moon.)</p><p>Jupiter went direct on July 5th, which was kind of a biggie, astrologically speaking. Here is an article of mine about what it means now that Jupiter is direct:</p><p><a href="http://www.lipstickmystic.com/astro/jupiter_retrograde.html">http://www.lipstickmystic.com/astro/jup … grade.html</a></p><p>Philosopher Richard Tarnas just came out with an intriguing book called Cosmos and Psyche which offers some great thoughts on how astrology acts as a hologram or energy blueprint that we move through. My article about this and his work:</p><p><a href="http://www.lipstickmystic.com/astro/why_astrology_works.html">http://www.lipstickmystic.com/astro/why … works.html</a></p><p>My Mystic Mail piece: Can Astrology Predict the Future?<br /><a href="http://www.lipstickmystic.com/mail/astrology_predict_future.html">http://www.lipstickmystic.com/mail/astr … uture.html</a></p><p>Vedic Astrology Vs. Western Astrology<br /><a href="http://www.lipstickmystic.com/mail/astrology_vedic_sidereal.html">http://www.lipstickmystic.com/mail/astr … ereal.html</a></p><p>Okay, I just wanted to pitch in about some recent astrology material at my site that addresses some of the wonderful comments created in this thread, since I was posting here back when this thread first got started.</p><p>Best,<br />LipstickMystic aka Jennifer</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[LipstickMystic]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-07-25T16:42:59Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>PH...that was an interesting site.&nbsp; I thought the *beneficial foods* were a little bit odd though.&nbsp; &nbsp;Of course my daughter would have no trouble eating a blue popsicle. : )</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[treehugger]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-07-25T12:39:36Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I thought I would add this link to the discussion on astrology.&nbsp; &nbsp;I found a website that has a very interesting &quot;take&quot; on astrology, which is very different from other forms, I would hope this at least serves as an interesting aside:</p><p>Ascension Astrology</p><p><a href="http://www.bryandeflores.com/articles/AscensionAstrology0606.html">http://www.bryandeflores.com/articles/A … y0606.html</a></p><br /><p>PH</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[PleiadeanHealer]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-07-25T05:47:06Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Astrology]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Mikhail Bulgakov. The Master and Margarita wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>&#039;It is a pity,&#039; agreed the unknown man with&nbsp; a&nbsp; glint in his eye,&nbsp; and<br />went on: &#039; But this is the&nbsp; question that disturbs me--if there&nbsp; is&nbsp; no God,<br />then who, one wonders, rules the life of man and keeps the world in order? &#039;<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&#039;Man&nbsp; rules&nbsp; himself,&#039;&nbsp; said&nbsp; Bezdomny angrily in answer&nbsp; to&nbsp; such&nbsp; an<br />obviously absurd question.<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&#039;I&nbsp; beg your pardon,&#039; retorted the stranger quietly,&#039; but to rule one<br />must have a precise&nbsp; plan worked out for some reasonable period ahead. Allow<br />me&nbsp; to&nbsp; enquire&nbsp; how man can control&nbsp; his own affairs&nbsp; when&nbsp; he is not&nbsp; only<br />incapable of compiling a plan for some laughably short term, such as, say, a<br />thousand years, but cannot even predict what will happen to him tomorrow? &#039;<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&#039;In&nbsp; fact,&#039; here the stranger turned to Berlioz, &#039; imagine what&nbsp; would<br />happen if you, for&nbsp; instance, were to&nbsp; start organising others and yourself,<br />and&nbsp; you developed a taste for it--then&nbsp; suddenly you got. .&nbsp; . he, he ... a<br />slight heart attack . . . &#039; at this&nbsp; the foreigner smiled sweetly, as though<br />the&nbsp; thought of&nbsp; a heart attack&nbsp; gave him pleasure. .&nbsp; .&nbsp; .&nbsp; &#039; Yes, a&nbsp; heart<br />attack,&#039; he repeated the word sonorously,&nbsp; grinning like a cat, &#039; and that&#039;s<br />the end of you as an organiser!&nbsp; No one&#039;s fate except your own interests you<br />any&nbsp; longer.&nbsp; Your relations&nbsp; start lying to you. Sensing that&nbsp; something is<br />amiss you rush&nbsp; to a specialist, then to&nbsp; a charlatan, and even perhaps to a<br />fortune-teller. Each&nbsp; of&nbsp; them&nbsp; is as&nbsp; useless&nbsp; as&nbsp; the other, as&nbsp; you&nbsp; know<br />perfectly well. And it all ends in&nbsp; tragedy: the man who thought&nbsp; he&nbsp; was in<br />charge is suddenly reduced to lying prone and motionless in a wooden box and<br />his fellow&nbsp; men, realising that there&nbsp; is&nbsp; no more sense&nbsp; to be&nbsp; had of him,<br />incinerate him.<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&#039;Sometimes&nbsp; it&nbsp; can&nbsp; be&nbsp; even&nbsp; worse&nbsp; :&nbsp; a&nbsp; &nbsp;man&nbsp; decides&nbsp; to&nbsp; go&nbsp; to<br />Kislovodsk,&#039;--here the stranger stared&nbsp; at Berlioz--&#039;&nbsp; a trivial matter&nbsp; you<br />may think, but he cannot because for no good reason he suddenly jumps up and<br />falls under a&nbsp; tram! You&#039;re not going to tell me that he arranged to do that<br />himself? Wouldn&#039;t it be nearer the truth to say that someone quite different<br />was directing his fate?&#039; The stranger gave an eerie peal of laughter.</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AB]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-07-25T05:21:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Astrology]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Here is a web site on astrology that provides free charts and reports:</p><p><a href="http://www.chaosastrology.net/">http://www.chaosastrology.net/</a></p><p>It&#039;s one of the better sites that I have found in my research so far.</p><p>Also, here is a link to articles on the same site that link.&nbsp; Some of them relate astrology to a fractal understanding of the universe.</p><p><a href="http://www.chaosastrology.net/chaosarticles.cfm">http://www.chaosastrology.net/chaosarticles.cfm</a></p><p>Here is a link to &quot;Worlds within Worlds: an introuduction to fractal scaling in astrology&quot;:<br /><a href="http://www.chaosastrology.com/worlds.htm">http://www.chaosastrology.com/worlds.htm</a></p><p>Here is a selection from the article &quot;Bringing it Down to Earth: A Fractal Approach&quot;:</p><p>&quot;Both astrology and Chaos are the study of what physicist David Bohm calls the &#039;implicate order&#039;, the notion of unbroken wholeness. Implicate order is the order of the hologram, in which the whole object is enfolded in each part, and each part contains the image of the whole. Ours is a holographic reality, an undivided universe where everything influences everything else in a cosmos of the ultimate complexity. Wholeness, where even the minutest part plays a crucial role in shaping the total picture. There is also a current trend of thinking in ecology, the Gaia hypothesis, which regards the planet Earth as an undivided conscious whole and where to exist at all is to exist in connection with the planet. Astrology takes this a step further, predicating a universe that is self-aware, interconnected and purposeful - an entirely integrated system. We stand in relation to our surroundings interactively - it feeding into us and we feeding into it. And, as astrologers, we employ our charts as tools for understanding this relationship. Astrology is about making correlations between one part of our system and another, the happenings up there and our lives down here. We use the chart to trace the unfoldment of an idea, a business or a human lifetime, and all of these could be thought of as systems interacting with other systems. &quot;</p><p>Here is the full article:<br /><a href="http://www.chaosastrology.com/dntoerth.htm">http://www.chaosastrology.com/dntoerth.htm</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wandering1]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-07-15T18:42:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Astrology]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>heandras,<br />I was going from the perspective that the planets and signs are all subtile energies, so it would be logical that they would effect events on other planets within our solar system. AS you said, the Zodiac would be the same, but the paths of the planets, Sun and earth would have to be reploted from the perspective of the Moon. For example, Mars at 29 Scorpio is from the viewpoint of a person at a specific point on the earth. It would be at a completely different place if viewed from the Moon. I guess all you would need is a way to plot the positions of the planets from the moon. I know there is a formula that programers user to create the Ephemerises that exist on line, but I have no ideas how they are written.</p><p>I assume that if you were working on a chart for the Appollo Luner Landing, for example, the chart would show the earth as the planet that governs the emotions, much like the moon does for us.</p><p>I don&#039;t remember how the houses are figused up. I started doing Astrology before the age of computers, so I remember that there was a lot of math involved to figure up the Ascendent, but the details escape me now. I have the notes somewhere, I&#039;ll have to look them up, but I suspect that they will have to be refigured as well, but I could be mistaken.</p><p>This is what would be called theoretical metaphysics, as opposed to theoretical physics. It can make your head spin sometimes, but it does bring up some very interesting question.</p><p>Anyway, I hope this helps.</p><p>WizardT</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[WizardT]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-07-12T20:08:53Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Astrology]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Bruce, does the moon move the tides?<br />Your being is mostly water.<br />You are made of star stuff, married with spirit.<br />While in the earth plane people are subject to the influence of archetypal forces.<br />This is part of the consequence of coming into this field of experience.<br />This is what is.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[StarCat]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-07-08T02:40:25Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I nearly forgot to answer on this…<br />WizardT, you are the first one who tells me that it would be possible to draw a chart for events taking place on other planetary bodies. Interesting! I still have no clue how to do that. How would you approach that task in practical terms?<br />Surely the system of houses and the zodiac in general can be transferred, but what about the problem, that the planetary body you are located on, can have no definable movement in the radix?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[heandras]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-07-07T23:04:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Astrology]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I think that you could do a chart for an event on Mars or The Moon, IF you had the Ephemeris to do that. the Table of houses charts would also have to be refigured, since Placitius is based on the work of an midevel Catholic monk who worked up the house systems to aid farmers in their planting. As an old Astrologer, I think it could be done, since Astrology is the art of interpreting the subtle energies of the planets and how they affect us, but the tools would have to be created to give someone the positions of the planets from the place on the other planet. The period of rotatoion would also factor in, so that too would have to be worked up.<br />It would be a lot of work, but, in my opinion, it could be done, but since there is no real need for it yet, it hasn&#039;t been done, yet.<br />WizardT</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[WizardT]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-06-23T20:19:45Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Astrology]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>That is a very good point Heandras and one that taxes the philosophical muscle. Do you think our Astrology could be a microcosmic representation of a macrocosmic astrology? The old &#039;as above so below&#039; axiom?</p><p>Bruce</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[bruce]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-06-13T14:02:33Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>From my momentary point of view I regard astrology as a means to calculate the influences the matrix has on its inhabitants. For me it is proven valid in this context from my own experiences. It’s a nice tool to be successful inside the matrix but in no way helpful to escape or transcend it.<br />If astrology were a coherent system to determine archetypical energetic influences, one could transfer it to any planetary body of our solar system at least. But fact is: you can’t: Try to calculate a chart for an event taking place on the moon for instance. There’s no way to do that. I asked this question on astrology-forums to get a reply from &quot;experts&quot; . But they couldn’t answer it. Usually this question was brushed away as &quot;hypothetical&quot; . But, if the NASA didn’t lie (yeah, OK… <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />) there had been humans on the moon. This event has taken place in a certain locator of space/time, so there were defined settings regarding energetic influences that <strong>should</strong> be possible to analyze through astrology… Here the system fails. I still ponder the implications of that failure. Any ideas anyone?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[heandras]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-06-12T22:47:31Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guys,</p><p>Thank you for the comments and the very useful information. I conclude from your replies that you consider the principles of Astrology to have at least some validity and, consequently, some use and that the subject merits a degree of consideration and study. I have been using Astrology in various ways for many years and have found the horoscopic corrrespondences to individual behaviour at times to be quite revealing and telling. But in the back of my mind and because of this infernal matrix of which we are a part I suspect that it could also be a tool of deception. If it isn&#039;t, and intrinsically is of value, then it would be worth a deeper look?</p><p>Bruce</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[bruce]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-06-12T11:29:00Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>bruce, here&#039;s an article you might check out. Funny that I just saw this yesterday and was thinking about posting it on the Astrology thread in the Humor and Fun forum, but this&#039;ll work!</p><p><a href="http://www.lipstickmystic.com/mail/astrology_predict_future.html">http://www.lipstickmystic.com/mail/astr … uture.html</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Auendove]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-06-12T11:14:13Z</updated>
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