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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>A book and few more links on the assemblage point.</p><p><a href="http://www.whalemedical.com/ap1.html">http://www.whalemedical.com/ap1.html</a></p><p><a href="http://www.whalemedical.com/cd1.html">http://www.whalemedical.com/cd1.html</a></p><p><a href="http://www.clearyourpath.ca/assemblage-point.htm">http://www.clearyourpath.ca/assemblage-point.htm</a></p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>As</p><p><strong><span style="color: green">Zenden</span></strong></p><p>Might Note:</p><p>From:</p><p><a href="http://www.zeitlin.net/EndEnchantment/weavers.html">http://www.zeitlin.net/EndEnchantment/weavers.html</a></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>The Return of the Weaver-Children</p><p>During the night, we unraveled our cocoon from the inside, Mother!</p><p>The guardians don’t know that we are gone.</p><p>No one saw us leave, one by one, in the dark.</p><p>We are the Weavers carrying the threads of our captivity.</p><p>Very resourceful we are, yes, from the inside we worked.</p><p>Silently and passionately we whirled around until everything dropped from us.</p><p>Then, we followed each other holding on to those threads.</p><p>First they held us, now they guide us as we leave silently in single file.</p><p>Soon we shall knot and place the threads on a giant spool.</p><p>Free and dancing we’ll wind that spool good and tight.</p><p>We are your children, the Weavers, and we’re back home, Mother!</p><p>We’ll weave you a shawl of Hope adorned with the fringes of our memories.</p><p>Singing we will weave that shawl good and tight.</p><p>Each knot is like a jewel and every song praises your beauty.</p><p>We are your Weavers, Mother, and we found our way home.</p></blockquote></div><p>And From:</p><p><a href="http://www.zeitlin.net/EndEnchantment/Djed.html">http://www.zeitlin.net/EndEnchantment/Djed.html</a></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.zeitlin.net/EndEnchantment/images/Djed_h1.4.jpg" alt="http://www.zeitlin.net/EndEnchantment/images/Djed_h1.4.jpg" /></span></p><p>We’ve searched our Airports and we found the Backbone of your Beloved.</p><p>It is time to dry your tears, O Mother Isis!</p><p>From the deep and secret places of our human brains, we’ve retrieved many repetitive patterns and we are giving them function, by shaping and assembling them, to be our Guides during the long journey of the &quot;Return.&quot;</p><p>First we built Towers near the Oceans. Then we added branches and now, the entire Tree is filled with people who speak in many languages and give the Silver Birds their directions upon leaving the Earth for the Skies, or returning to land from beyond the clouds. We’ve used that very design for centuries.</p><p>In the Ancient Land, we’ve painted it at the bottom of our coffins for our final voyage. We even wore it around our necks for stability and regenerative power. We didn’t understand its usage at the time, but we kept it for our Future. We felt your sadness, O Mother Isis, every time we looked at the Stars reflected on the waters of the Earth. Did that profound ancestral longing finally meet the hope of seeing his welcoming arms, and hear his many voices directing us for a safe landing...somewhere... beyond this Star?</p><p>malou</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-06-05T07:55:00Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>sorry Visavis for not writing sooner.&nbsp; i just read/finished that book War in Heaven (after many interruptions today) mentioned at another site (<a href="http://www.zeitlin.net/EndEnchantment">www.zeitlin.net/EndEnchantment</a>) from my above postings.&nbsp; i dont know what to think now, sorta.&nbsp; anyway--believe it or not V, but that biblioteca site is IN ENGLISH--all of it even tho there r spanish headings to topics and the &quot;return&quot; headers at the bottom of pages r in spanish--its ENGLISH.&nbsp; i know, weird.&nbsp; just go there and even stuff that has spanish headers will be all in english.&nbsp; one cannot fathom the AMOUNT of info there, its stunning.&nbsp; theres even a site in french or portuguese that i bookmarked long ago from somewhere linked to/from somewhere else in there apparently that i saved from surfing long ago, thats a book and its in complete english, even tho the title isnt.&nbsp; beats me who this is but its some good stuff ill tell ya.&nbsp; theres alot to digest and u will be familiar with some of the writers/contributors.&nbsp; theres even a page listing some of them with direct links to their sites, i think its even alphabetized.</p><p>check out the book, its gotta be downloaded from yahoo groups.&nbsp; i talked about it above.&nbsp; it has ALOT of stuff we all know about only with a little twist to it.&nbsp; im not hawking it or anything, i just had to check it out.&nbsp; i cant believe&nbsp; i joined to get that book since i usually never do that, its against my principles, but i downloaded it and read it.&nbsp; if its ok--i could email it to montalk to post at our files section or however that goes, or to u directly i think, but i dont know how that works or what he&#039;d say&nbsp; or what.&nbsp; anyway, thats from that enchantment site that i found in the biblioteca site.&nbsp; u have to see a tracy twyman article in there about &quot;common&quot; people--its quite unusual.</p><p>BTW-Siriarc, thanks for posting how to cut and paste, im working on it and tried it today but i ended up putting desktop wallpaper that i changed days ago&nbsp; into a book i was treading in word perfect.&nbsp; where&#039;d that come from?&nbsp; if i was looking for that do ya think ida found it?&nbsp; hell no.&nbsp; &nbsp;i better not try any big tricks on here.&nbsp; low skills and afraid ill wreck something, ive done it before.&nbsp; believe it.&nbsp; thanks to both of u.&nbsp; zenden</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-06-05T01:18:03Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/">http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/</a></p><p>Z - is this the site you&#039;re referring to?&nbsp; There wouldn&#039;t happen to be an english version, would there?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-06-04T22:51:49Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Zenden wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>god-- i wish i knew how to cut and paste and bring in articles to u and quote and all that so u guys could see exactly what starcat and others r saying</p></blockquote></div><p>Z,</p><p>For copy/ paste, just hold down left click and highlight what you want - then right click over what you’ve highlighted for the options.</p><p>For the other futzing, go to the top of any NR page to:</p><p>Quickguide&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="http://noblerealms.org/forum/help.php">http://noblerealms.org/forum/help.php</a></p><p>Also, you can right click &gt; properties for URLs, etc.<br />~~~~~~~&nbsp; &nbsp;~~~&nbsp; &nbsp;~</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Zenden wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>god bless us all, we came here without a road map or directions, instructions, and manuals, we came with our SOULS to do the &#039;work&quot; and this just blows me away.&nbsp; this is the reason i love other humans, for that and that mainly.&nbsp; what guts and courage and bravery and nobility is in those who do their &quot;work&quot; all in the face of utter adversity, on a planet that reeks of death defying survivalistic traps.</p></blockquote></div><p><strong><span style="color: green">YOUR Anubian Light Can Lead It</span></strong></p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/siriarc/AnubianLight.jpg" alt="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/siriarc/AnubianLight.jpg" /></span></p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Zenden, I think you are up to the task. Not worry about your skills.<br />I have had some time to think about information sources I have encountered and cross reference a few. The cut and paste part is easy. Getting some bearings on the matter is a process that spans time. The 100 yr. old book sounds interesting. Some of my current reading and work on pure principle reminds me how it can also be somewhat dangerous to take in certain wirtten information. Lots of stuff passed round by that means not in our best interests. I think seekers will always be looking in some manner. At some points we turn powerfully inward. I think the two sources mentioned in this thread, Lash and Gamble are noteworthy. ON the subject of &quot; Yahoo, &quot; their e-mail is VERY unsecure.<br />Just about anyone can break into yahoo e-mail accounts with yahoo&#039;s assistance and they will PROTECT the invaders. Most corporate systems have built in matrix-like weirdness that makes no sense to sane people. Only today I went searching for a parcel that was over due.<br />The courier which is an inferior one in my view has a tracking system that indicates that the package was &quot; delivered to a different address &quot; [from mine] but the e-document does not say <br />&quot; what address.&quot; WEIRD. It shows only a signers name. To find out more you have to call the courier, get passed to different departments and ask what the hell is going on.<br />The I call the management office and ask if they had a package for me and they say no.<br />But they lied because they are incompetent and of course don&#039;t give a fig.<br />They DID have it for 2 days, did not inform me, and denied it when I called.<br />I had to call back and ask if someone with the signature name was employed there, then bells went off in someones head.<br />Then the courier tells me where they took it when I ask them but they do not post the delivery address on the web document, and they do not leave delivery notices to let anyone know that they were in fact there. Its all on the buyer to work out anything that goes not according to plan.<br />Funny how true craftsmanship and true customer service have mostly evaporated.<br />Sad but true in the main.<br />Then the other day I had contracted for a new pair of lenses for some glasses I had in a frame that has been damaged by one of our cats. The consensus on saturday was that the frames would be servicable which I had doubts about but I could not quite put my finger on why as I was distracted by many things that day. Sunday the old frames did give way, so I found myself needing to let the optical place know first thing tuesday after the holiday that I needed to pick out some new frames and that we may need to&nbsp; cancel the lens order if they could not be sized right for the change in fames. Ok cutting to the chase about people who are totally asleep most of the time. I had left a nessage on the message system at the optical shop detailing the situation briefly so they would have the info and could ACT on it first thing tuesday morning. I then called shortly after opening say 1 hour and asked if they had gotten my message....&quot; we did not check messages yet...&quot; so I proceed to tell this guy Aaron my situation and he&#039;s cool with everything<br />no problem he says and you don&#039;t need an appointment for this...just come in and pick out some frames in the afternoon. When I get there he has NO recollection of our morning phone conversation much less the message I left over the weekend and furthermore asks me if I has an appointment. Just plain strange.</p><p>Another day I called the apartment office for maintenance issues. A few days later nothing has been done about the problem and I call back and inquire. She says I did not write your name down last time you called and since you don&#039;t go by your given name on your lease I could not determine what apartment you live in. SO what happened is she was not in the PRESENT when she originally took the call and did NOT write anything down when she should have, but tried to remember things and of course could not make the grade. Possibly she has a cell phone in the other ear. Weird. So many people are allowed by the system &quot; not &quot; to do their job while others are held totally accountable for doing not only their job but the jobs of others.</p><p>until later</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-06-03T23:49:12Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>holy crap!!! i just was there and on the left-hand side, theres a symbol called WIH==The War In Heaven.&nbsp; there r excerpts (and u can download the book by going to yahoo groups but u have to join and theres a forum too altho when i checked it out its not real current, its all called revolutionary realities i think), anyway u have got to see the Last Days section.&nbsp; wow--now this take is new to me and i thought i had it all down pretty good.&nbsp; it seques into where some pll r gonna go and why and get this, assimilation into god-heads and some pll &quot;know who they r&quot;&nbsp; wow is all im gonna say.&nbsp; u have to see this.&nbsp; its on the left WIH--the war in heaven.&nbsp; cant believe that one time i was in oklahoma visiting a friend and of course, had her drop me off to see a psychic.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;(i always went to psychics when i had &quot;love&quot; problems.&nbsp; why go to a counselor when u can go to a good psychic?!-- and i was told that once by a good certified MFCC that i used to work with.&nbsp; she counseled ppl for a living and she, herself, went to a psychic.&nbsp; god, i love that).&nbsp; anyway, this was many many yrs ago and the first thing she said was &quot;wow--ur really involved in that war in heaven thing, u do know there is one dont u? and wow babe--its big and on and on.&nbsp; she got all very excited, i wont go into it further but, of course, it has all rang true and intersting thru the yrs as my research became more sophisticated and--with the advent of the world&#039;s best home library--THE INTERNET.&nbsp; where u can learn about everything in ur frickin pajamas.&nbsp; so u have to see this again, more unreal info from another source thst i havent seen before.&nbsp; its like 5th level info to me.&nbsp; i will have to research it further.&nbsp; just wanted to say too, on the topic, again of sources info for the discerning and skeptical.&nbsp; if u or i knew there was a diary sitting somewhere, or a story, or a letter, or even a memo, written either by ones enemy, or by ones friend, would u not want to read it, pick it up and check it out, even tho u already considered the source? u know what i mean--wouldnt ya want to read it and ponder it.&nbsp; u bet u would.&nbsp; even if u knew or didnt know what it was gonna say--its always more info to garner insight from, either way.&nbsp; enuf said on that, i use everything and like, put it on a disk, i save it and sometimes i play it forward when it fits.&nbsp; at lest u got it for later, if not useful, discard it.&nbsp; thanks.&nbsp; &nbsp;zenden</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-06-03T22:34:18Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>dammit.&nbsp; take out the &quot;of&quot; and its endenchantment --- <a href="http://www.zeitlin.net/EndEnchantment/">www.zeitlin.net/EndEnchantment/</a> and so on.&nbsp; sorry.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-06-03T21:11:06Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>see-- i dont know what im doing but u have to see this and again, i cant believe the sheer VOLUME of stuff at this website, i cant describe it, but in it, i found this place...www.zeitlin.net/EndofEnchantment/Weavers.&nbsp; god, i hope i did that right and why isnt it an automatic URL?&nbsp; anyway along the left are symbols that are stories in first person by wanderers id venture to say.&nbsp; theres a ton on seti, 3d vs 4d, archons, etc etc with references to the brilliant john lash and MORE.&nbsp; anyway, doink on those symbols and see the coolest rememberings and allegorical memories.&nbsp; the weaver one is really cool and sort of exemplifies what i was saying above.&nbsp; i resonate with that one.&nbsp; u will like it and theres just way way too much to mention.&nbsp; anywho--i just wanted to show ya. i should put this in links but its connected in here too.&nbsp; i give up on computer skills, cant even figure out how to start new threads.&nbsp; forget it, im just going to read ALL FRIGGIN DAY (rather than exercise, my mind is an athlete anyway and im tired of having a body).&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;zenden</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-06-03T21:06:37Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>god-- i wish i knew how to cut and paste and bring in articles to u and quote and all that so u guys could see exactly what starcat and others r saying on here--about yahweh, who, what, how and why (thats the tricky part..the why of it and that goes on and on which is still mainly unclear) things r what they are.&nbsp; go to bibliotecapleyades. com or net and check out articles by stuart in there, the one about oil, dark skinned ppl, david icke has stuff in there as does gardner, zechariah sitchin, others, including cosmic awareness.&nbsp; then go to starfolk,org and read the article on belief.&nbsp; this is about gathering info, and how data collection, how these &quot;knowings&quot; often confuse, anger, and lead to more separation, which was THE PLAN, how some info stymies some lower-thinkers cuz rhey dont want to challenge belief.&nbsp; they get easily confused.&nbsp; read the theory on it there, it makes terrific sense.&nbsp; if i could lead u there with the computer skills, i would rather than to direct u to the sites to muddle around.&nbsp; but, its in THERE.&nbsp; read about ahriman, the jewish deal, the issues with jesus and what he was trying to do.&nbsp; u dont have to agree or disagree, just go there and read it.&nbsp; &nbsp;GATHER INFO.&nbsp; info can come from all sources.&nbsp; i view it as information and do research.&nbsp; im ashamed and embarassed that i cant do what u guys do and put it in direct quotes with the corresponding linkages.&nbsp; geezzz.&nbsp; my mind goes so fast and i type way way too crumby and slow to do it the scholarly way.&nbsp; forgive me for that but its there.&nbsp; </p><p>we r anchors, apparently here doing jobs, being us is what us getting us thru.&nbsp; i almost cried the other day when i read a new member saying he was woke up and is &quot;doing his job&quot; here now that he knows what it is, he thinks, how he wishes he could just be with the like-minded.&nbsp; god bless us all, we came here without a road map or directions, instructions, and manuals, we came with our SOULS to do the &#039;work&quot; and this just blows me away.&nbsp; this is the reason i love other humans, for that and that mainly.&nbsp; what guts and courage and bravery and nobility is in those who do their &quot;work&quot; all in the face of utter adversity, on a planet that reeks of death defying survivalistic traps.&nbsp; everybody is waiting and waiting and thinking and developing thought constructs.&nbsp; that is gorgeous and thats what pisses them off.&nbsp; theres so much to say on all of this, but please go check that stuff out.&nbsp; theres alot there and the main menu goes on ad infinitum.&nbsp; there, of course, is stuff IN stuff.&nbsp; whoever put this together has done their work.&nbsp; u will find tons of stuff. i give ppl credit for putting that kind of info together.&nbsp; also, this luciferian and other archangel (angle stuff and i have talked of this before with thoth and the tablets in another thread) is referenced in some fabulous old books that came from my grandfather that r over 100 yrs old that talk of ahriman and archangels, &quot;plans&quot;, etc.&nbsp; unbelieveable.&nbsp; adam, eve, the archons, cloning, yahweh, the annunaki.&nbsp; u will really love it.&nbsp; all these entities have a stake in this whatever the hell it is--yes starcat, the &quot;experiment&quot; or whatever.&nbsp; search on and develop more i say.&nbsp; i really see how and why knowledge protects.&nbsp; thats why i fell in love with montalk.&nbsp; how he coined the term and stands by it in his research (love you tom, what a genius) and how the cassiopeans talk of it.&nbsp; even with channeling, one can glean INFO, not necessarily coining it as belief but it is data.&nbsp; having done reasearch professionally and used deliberate methods to classify and sort data, and make conclusions, i can definitely say--INFO comes from many sources.&nbsp; as my militant plumber, brilliant historian, ex-blavatsky (ian), ex-rosicrucianary, veilokovsky (ian), apollonian, guerdjeffian, vietnam vet SAGE mentor once told me--&quot;my dear, there r many layers upon layers.&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp;the burden rests (and i dont think its really a burden, i love doing it, do it everyday, too) with the discoverer, the data collector, the history and facts r there, its in the layout of it.&nbsp; i say go everywhere, search it, make conclusions, get lead there&nbsp; and read everything.&nbsp; i could sound really, more scholarly on this but i find myself simply monitoring.&nbsp; thats what i do, i monitor it which is why i watch TV much to the horror of some of u guys--i know, i GET IT.&nbsp; i asked him the other day about that, cuz he knows i go here and read everything all the time and i tell him about u guys.&nbsp; i asked him what he thought of the TV thing and this is what he said...&quot;well, some us r checking their progress&quot; GOD i love him, i know thats why i do it.&nbsp; i can tell what theyre thinking and what is going on by the shit there, what theyre trying to do, etc.&nbsp; its like checking the battle plans of the enmy, observing their tactics, to be prepared, to fight them anyway one can. i am spying on them, not the other way around.&nbsp; thats my job--to check and monitor their process/progress.&nbsp; i feel im compelled to do it, so i do it.&nbsp; u r doing it too, by watching and observing.&nbsp; &nbsp;ur conclusions and whats on here verifies that.&nbsp; i started out as a paid observer in my career, so to speak, and i developed my skills in this area.&nbsp; putting 2 and 2 together so my expertise is in that arena.&nbsp; its tedious and mundane often, monitoring the masses.&nbsp; it tires me too so i hate being out in crowds and in public.&nbsp; it wears on me and takes alot of energy being out in the ozone layers.&nbsp; i choose to stay in alot and read.&nbsp; feels safer.&nbsp; alot can be said on that too.&nbsp; how &quot;nesting&quot; became a way of life for some.&nbsp; i used to be WAY out there, i sat in bars on mondays, god.&nbsp; alot has changed though, alot.&nbsp; sorry to digress. <br />zenden</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-06-03T19:36:42Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have to make some counter points across the board.<br />The term &quot; mistake &quot; and the context I see it being repeated back in are not conveying the depth of the matter of the archons and the material realm. What happened with the creation of this realm was something that had never been done before. Some have used the term &quot; experiment &quot; which also falls short. The term celestial error has been used and with this we appraoch the limits of what language can deal with. This needs to be pondered in greater depth.&nbsp; A predatory system was spawned which runs on negative thougtforms that exist extradimensionally and reinforce the negative state thru time.<br />It feeds on and creates manifold forms of suffering and most don&#039;t properly understand whats going on, yet are part of it. This is anything but divine,healthy, sane or just.</p><p>About the Angels we have also been mislead, and there is not enough correct information.<br />The only real protection we have is outside [or possibly inside] and beyond the manifest realm where we originally came from. All thats in the Astral which includes the light and dark heriarchies are invested in keeping the polarity game going because this is their energy source. I don&#039;t know if &quot; angel &quot; is an accurate term for the protectors we may have that exist with what remains of ourselves in the pure realm which is also beyond time, beyond space, and beyond dimensionality.<br />Some have called&nbsp; guardian angel &quot; higher self &quot; but there has purposefully been sewn much confusion around these terms and exactly what they mean.<br />Gamble indicates that the game is also to trap people in the astral realms after death of the physical body and then force the soul to renicarnate on their terms which is accurate.<br />Robert Monroe&#039;s journeys indicate some information along these lines but from a different perspective. </p><p>Our entire perception is determined by the position the assemblage point has taken up on our luminous body. The Toltecs and other clairvoyants have known this for hundreds of years.<br />The manipulation of mass consciousness is maintained by keeping that point fixated on a certain spot [ much of such by proxy and agreements] and even orchestrating it to shift more into a location of weakness and domestication or subserviance to forces that seek to keep the status quo running. The location of the assemblage point aligns it with other emanations that rise out of the manifest reality to create perception which is in effect an alignment or resonance. Total shifts of the assemblage point allow for the perception and entrance into total other worlds. The fact that Mr Gamble has said we have learned to focus only on this narrow band is accurate from this angle.</p><p>Quoted from part 7</p><p>&quot;The disease is spreading and it is our responsibility, each and every one of us. We created the imbalance in the first place; or more correctly a few unbalanced minds created it and the majority of us have allowed it to grow and spread. If we choose to put our head in the sand then we have to accept that when we leave the physical body we may find that more than just our head is surrounded by darkness. We do have a responsibility to sort out this mess.&quot;</p><p>This is not entirely accurate. The term &quot; we &quot; is a difficult one to get the mind round.<br />It definitely was not the &quot; we &quot; of simply the earthbound experience having been recycled a few times to buy into and thereby ramp up the contamination. It was not that simple.<br />The template for what became was set with the original fall of the Aeon Sophia from the original source. This has to be realized, so the reference to &quot; we &quot; may have to do with other aspects of self that made the fall into matter but not to the Earthbound souls as the &quot; causality &quot; of the&nbsp; entire mess and its continuation. </p><p>The entire awareness of the archons which is currently coming in has to do with being<br /> &quot; influenced &quot; by non-local &quot; discarnate &#039; intelligences. Gamble is correct that we do have responsibility to sort ot out but not solely, and it is known beyond this realm that things have gotten out of hand and that the Earth requires assistance. The notion that human souls are totally at fault and that no assistance is to be expected from beyond our realm is a falsehood and is rooted in judgement of self and the need to punish oneself and all others for the taintedness they took on in the fields of matter. This idea does not come from the GodForce.<br />We created a measure of the imbalance, not the whole of it.<br />He is also correct in that purification of the soul can only happen during physical incarnation.<br />This has been spoken about elsewhere in esoteric circles but he articulates the reason elegantly, which is because the human form is then animated with the life force which iis not the case when we are without body in the astral realms. This is another indication that the astral realms are or can be a trap.</p><p>&quot;As our light begins to shine it attracts likeminded people, or people who need to share our light - even for a brief moment - because their inner light has guided them to us to ask questions, knowing what the answers are going to be, or should be. Even if these answers may initially cause a detrimental reaction, the seed of truth has been sown and may work wonders for the individual at some point in the future. We should never be afraid of sharing our light. However, one thing I learnt early on from the inner journey was this:<br />When one’s light begins to shine, respond only to those who reflect the light back. Otherwise one may spend a lifetime shining light into darkness and achieve nothing!&quot;</p><p>I agree with this and I learn interesting ways to view things from many along the way. I also see flawed thoughtforms but not instantly because they are made to taste good in the immediate and escape detection. The way this happens is by accepting them without thinking about the full implications. Gamble speaks about the denial of negative energy and he is correct on this point.<br />Ideas and thoughtforms....information carries potential to enhance or destroy life and as thus is not neutral. Thoughtforms require vehicles to express.</p><p>&quot;Although with the devolution of consciousness we are moving the opposite way through the vibrations of nine towards one, deeper into imbalance and into the lower vibrations of the abyss.&quot;</p><p>This is reflected in the increasing levels of &quot; regulation &quot; that are being insinuated into peoples lives thru the legal system, with layer after layer of micromanaging laws being added to the books. Back to the Kaballah, it is described in that unsavory place that the lower down on the tree of life one goes, the more laws are enforce within those domains, I forget the specific numbers but the point is that Earth and humans have been being dragged into a realm where more laws and oppression have manifested from the next lower level which they call limbo....... the negative thoughtforms of the Kaballah having been externalized to a large degree by the archons, their minions and our own ignorance of causality. This has bee negatively enhanced by our tendency to be totally mental and to ignore things that don&#039;t &quot;feel &quot; right. I have spoken about this recently in relation to aviation crashes.</p><p>On rare occaison, I end up in a place where someone has a TV going.<br />Its always a horrid experience. Also note how one cannot go to a public place such as a restaurant without being assaulted by TVs from every imaginable angle....as if someone wanted to be sure your attention would have a chance of being trapped by one. I see alot of people watching TVs and walking around with dark glasses on with cell phones sticking out of their ears.<br />Its disturbing.<br />What I see coming thru the TV, especially in the news programs the few seconds that I allow myself&nbsp; to experience such is horrifying. I cannot believe what people are buying into and where they are putting their consciousness and focus.....<br />There is a massive campaign going on that deals with increasing domestication, entrapment,<br />the implanting of the idea of the need to control people within the social order, increasing laws, surveillence, sting operations, surrendering to outside authorities, violence, fear, terrorism,<br />hopelessness..etc and comentators babbling incessantly about the whole charade endlessly....interviewing people involved in the same weirdness...all with morbid fascination.<br />All those involved in this sort of virtuality are seeking to put the dark side of things outside themselves and deny their own inner darkness rather than deal with it.<br />All of this is a major con and a waste of God given and precious energies.</p><p>This is the major influence of the Ahrimanic forces in the current affairs of mankind with the media<br />leading the dumbed down masses and addicting them with its false message. Watching this kind of media is like drinking poison and its designed to be as such.</p><p>until later</p>]]></content>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: The Human Assemblage point]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well, I really don&#039;t agree with the fact that our human existance was a mistake in any way. Nothing is a mistake, it all has it place in helping us learn. Living our lives on Earth is one of the best ways to gather new experiences, new knowledge, so that in the Heavenly realm, we will become more and more complete. Complete without guilt, without longing, but to accept that &quot;Yes, I&#039;ve finally reached this stage. I no longer want/need to go through another incarnation&quot;. Living in the physical existance does serve a higher purpose, in my opinion, to help us become whole again. Once we learn to merge the Heavenly realm with the physical realm, that is the ultimate achievement, and that&#039;s what we really should be aiming for. <br /> This won&#039;t come about on some pre-determined date, it will not come about as a &quot;Judgement&quot; or the New-Age equivilant, &quot;2012&quot;, but it will be an awakening that will be achieved by those born between 1985-2015. Where we will either learn or be born with the ability to sense our guardian angels, to have contact with the angelic realm, and will come to learn how to apply their teachings and wisdom in the physical world. <br /> Talking about the Human Convergence/Assemblage point, it&#039;s specfically the nap of the neck that these spirits can enter through to posess the body. Our guardian angels are guarding this area from attack, but there can be instances where a person willingly allows a spirit to enter them.&nbsp; But it&#039;s quite another thing to suggest that a poor man is posessed by a devil. What ever happened to Jesus&#039; teching &quot;Blessed are the poor&quot;? I think what the author is attempting to demonstrate is the collective karma we all share together, where karmic conditions within certain people allow karmic conditions to affect others. There would be no poverty without miserliness, yet no miserliness without poverty. They are drawn together because they are two sides of the same coin. If you long for money as a beggar does, yo will incounter others that long for money as well, just as the miser does. Like attracts like.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Ive read the Shopping for Spirit also. A lot of it really made sense to me.&nbsp; Back in the &#039;80&#039;s I was on the fringes of Eckankar..the study of soul travel.&nbsp; Their whole concept is to become adept at moving out of the body to explore the other realms.&nbsp; &nbsp;I never became immersed in it but whats interesting is they talked about the *lords* that ruled the other realms.&nbsp; the astral realm was *Kal Narynjan* or the Kal. These were the worlds to avoid to get off the cycle of reincarnating( they call it the Wheel of&nbsp; 64, the Zodiac) back here.&nbsp; Too bad they went off track on other stuff. They ended up cultish.&nbsp; &nbsp;When they said the only way you could do it was thru the living Eck master...I beat haste.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hey thanks for your input on this StarCat and expanding on the issues of spiritual deception, look forward to reading more from you, great stuff.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Ok reading further I&#039;m seeing he&#039;s got some pretty strong filters in place.<br />I need to ponder some sections,&nbsp; but overall I think his bent is a healthy one. I think I am running into some limits of language in his delivery and conception.</p><p>Also he makes this point about music [a point which I have tried to make in a different way in forum] which should be related to WATER and also ties in with the concept of Morphic resonance I think. For those interested&nbsp; in morphic resonance see the work of Rupert Sheldrake.</p><p>&quot;As we discovered in Part Five, sound is energy, therefore music can affect living things in a positive or negative way. Rock/heavy metal music we discovered caused confusion and distress and a restriction in the growth and development of living things. Whereas classical music in general showed itself to be highly beneficial to living organisms. We can see the same ego-consciousness at work here in the music scene. Certain music available to the ‘young of today’ would appear to be generally controlled and deliberately orchestrated to cause the maximum amount of mayhem possible. That is, from an energy point of view, it is detrimental to the energy fields and consciousness of living organisms. Couple this with the deliberate drug culture allowed to grow in society today and we have a child being controlled from being born, through growing up and through adolescence, and if they haven’t died of stress or drugs on the way they will have either become so disassociated from life itself or they will have ‘bought’ so deeply into the lie of Man – typically a mortgage, debt and 2.2 children – that they no longer represent a threat to the establishment. Job accomplished. The disease lives on.&quot;</p><p>Masuro Emoto has definitively shown that heavy metal music will distort the crystal forming properties of water BIG TIME so it cannot happen. It disassociates [separates] things on quantum levels. I notice negative trends in music, people listening to things that are dissonant and just plain feel bad and I see that they &quot;think&quot; they like it......why would they think such a thing is good and fun??? Programming and addiction to pain and lower vibrational energies. The Toltecs will tell you something like the ego is addicted to its taintedness and will defend it to the death in some cases.<br />Sad.</p><p>&quot;The higher up the tree of capitalism and imperialism we climb and the more we move into the higher echelons of government or military/secret office and certain religious practices, the more evil and unbalanced these energies can become. These highly unbalanced and unruly energies then sit in office in these people’s energy fields and gradually begin to control the consciousness, thinking, feeling and emotion of the individual. Eventually these individuals begin to ‘create’ in the likeness of the unbalanced consciousness they have temporarily become, just like a tumour cell replicates itself into its own likeness, creating imbalance, chaos and disease in its wake.</p><p>As these negative energies feed on fear they manipulate human consciousness through the ego and then the conscious intellectual mind, and in such a way that even more fear is created in the world, which in turn feeds and sustains these unbalanced entities enabling them to take an even greater control of the consciousness and actions of the individual. This is why the people who ‘control the world’ and individual countries deliberately create division through religious beliefs, famine, poverty, wars and so forth, as these actions result in more fear and therefore, more ‘fodder’ for their predatory squatters to feed on.&quot;</p><p>This is a fact of the mechanics of things because the negative ego &quot; denies&quot; its own inner darkness and trys to place it separate and outside itself. This is the lie of all popular religions that the enemy is somehow &quot; out there.&quot; All demonic energies work thru the realms of thought to influence the mind of man into improper ways of thinking, being , creating.</p><p>Coordinate the following with Metahistory:<br />&quot; Sophia</p> <br /><br /><p>What follows is representative of both the physical and astral reality synonymously. The physical thought creates the astral equivalent thought-form and then the astral thought-form (memory) can manipulate our physical thoughts and beliefs as we discovered in Chapter Five. We&#039;ll look into this astral thought-form reality and how can affect our beliefs and actions in greater detail in the next chapter.</p><p>In the Apocryphon of John and other texts within the Nag Hammadi, Sophia of the Epinoia came forth ‘as the perfect image of the virginal Spirit, who is perfect.’ Sophia was also referred to as Faith and Wisdom. In this poetical and symbolic tale, Sophia was the perfect Mother and the perfect Soul – Wisdom – pure consciousness – Immortal Man - reflecting perfectly the image of the spiritual light of the Father. And this perfect Mother/Soul had a womb, which meant the soul/consciousness could create.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; What transpires is that Sophia wanted to ‘bring forth a likeness of herself’ but without the ‘consent of the Spirit’ – ‘he had not approved’ – and ‘she had a thought without the consent of the Spirit… Her thought did not remain idle and something came out of her which was imperfect and different from her appearance, because she had created it without her consort. And when she saw the consequences of her desire, it changed into a form of a lion-faced serpent. And its eyes were like lightening fires which flash.’5 Could this be the origin of the theory of the reptilian bloodline? More later.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; This is the symbolic story of the birth of the EGO, from which came the birth of the first unbalanced thought form created by a human soul, portrayed through the story of Sophia – the perfect soul who created without spiritual guidance. A thought created without the soul being in union with the spiritual light of the Father. This is the story of an original thought or desire that came from the ego/consciousness of a King and his followers, a ruler who thought himself as the Creator, the ultimate, yet jealous God among many Gods (kings), a ruler who wished to control the world.&nbsp; This is the metaphorical story of the first human Archon (lawmaker) creating the first thought form Archon through the soul’s desire to create without union with the spirit i.e. through ego, and he was named Yaltabaoth.6 In some texts he was given three names, in others he created gods (sons) with the same names: Saklas and Samael – meaning god of the blind (very appropriate). 6 Today we would recognise this false god as Yahweh or Jahwah, the leader of people who were, and are, blind to the truth.</p><p>Such was the arrogance, ego and imbalance created in consciousness by this thought form (Yaltabaoth), that twelve Archons (lawmakers) were assigned to rule over the twelve signs of the Zodiac, or the twelve hebdomads (seven in the scriptures apparently) 7 to carry out his work and promote his authority and his rule, and they were even given godly status. And these gods eventually became known as the sacred Babylonian Hebdomad, or the gods of Babel, and covered the seven planets that were known at the time – Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus and Saturn. They were given rule over the 72 Kingdoms of God/Heaven8 to correspond with the 72 letters of Gods name. Back to the nine again! (See Part Two)&quot;</p><p>The Zodiacs are a trap. The astrology can allow us to decode a measure of what the archons are trying to set up in the Earth field, but the crux of the matter is that the archetypes of the zodiac are designed to keep mankind on a continuous, circular, and pointless journey that cannot be mastered.</p><p>The popular idea of Karma in the new age is also a trap and a MAJOR con and a LIE as it has been sold to us. YHWH, Samael...the blind god. Hmm back to the deceptions of the Gnostic Kaballah again with all its attendent judgement against the human race, its need to perpetuate the polarity system and its tendency to try and hide the truth from seekers by any deceptive means possible.<br />Funny how the archons are always OBSESSED with&nbsp; names, rituals, STRUCTURES, ideas, thoughtforms. All of these are manipulations rooted in high artifice. They are essentially manipulating things in and out of the earth plane to do their bidding and sequestering negative psychic energies by proxy.<br />The light of your spirit can burn thru them.</p><p>more later</p>]]></content>
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