Dunno about Storlob... I liked that one, actually.

I don't understand. What " is not 'manifested by the human mind' because simply it is a part of nature?"

Time loop. I'm saying it's not manifested, so you wouldn't say it is.

So the beings can feed off of the suffering happening here. Earth is a cattle planet.

I doubt that.

In 4d, the meaning of time would lose its concept. We're in 3d, so we see time as linear.

Humans eat fish, they harvest them.
Reptilians eat humans, they harvest us.
Service to Self likes meat. Service to Self harms other for their own good.

PS: I've been searching Desteni's video and.... Where's my Sterlob video!? I personally liked it because of the sunshine and glass.
Luckily, I saved a .wav for all of those to hear: http://www.willhostforfood.com/files/16 … obcase.wav

I say that the idea of "free will" is as misleading as ideas of "ascensions" or "higher selves." The New Age Movement is just another religion that substitutes the "Rapture" with the "Great Awakinging" or the "Shift," and which replaces "angels" with "Higher Selves." Spi, do you know what you're "Higher Self" is up to? Or what properties such a "being" possesses? Are such beings in "control" in any meaningful way with our world? If these beings exist, what is the purpose of letting us exist in separation from nature and ourselves and the ABUSE we inflict on nature and ourselves?

What if there isn't "free will?" What if our actions are preprogrammed mind systems installed to control us by beings who wanted to be worshipped as Gods?

Cosmic Puppets. Yep. That's all we are. We carry the imprint and programs of the Sirians and the Anunnaki, and we reveal who we are thru our actions. The demolition of nature, the animals and Humanity should give you a clue on what the true nature of Humans, through the projections of the technological mind systems, is all about; death.

"Free Will." Please. Free Will exists as much as "Freedom" does. Or do you believe you're justified by 'Freedom?" LOL.

The mind locks us in PastPresentFuture where our responses and strivings are already predetermined by the programmed mmind system. The only hope is to stop using the mind so our real expressive self can be birthed into life.

The google clip of Earthlings is really instructive on how we as a species, abuse life. Needs to stop.

It is not 'manifested by the human mind' because simply it is a part of nature.

http://montalk.net/science/136/the-physics-of-2012

Also, in the Wave book of the C's they said that since one of the world that is in another parallel universe that gets burned by their star, Earth would hosts for them by going into a time loop back to Ancient Earth. The STO candidates will live on the New Earth that has a merging of a dimension to physical making it a 4d world, the others would go back to Ancient Earth.

No, it's not punishment or suffering, that is nature. Lessons will be or not be learned.

Desteni said that in 2009-2012 we would be paying the price of Mother Earth getting her revenge on us. The times would seem to be rough, but I doubt we will all be slaughtered.

But, only time will tell.

Hi Mex

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1. What about the other beings, Enki, Enli, Marduk, the syrians, serpents that were involved in the process. Where are they now?

They are currently within their own individual processes – realize that beings that were ‘races defined’ are no longer ‘defined as who they are according to the races they were’ – each being as a being within their own individual process. Here are links for further perspective:

http://www.desteni-universe.co.za/forum … ht=removed

http://www.desteni-universe.co.za/forum … php?t=1356

http://www.desteni-universe.co.za/forum … light=enki

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2. There were different beings that existed when those beings were running things, and since we are all equal in oneness and equality, what really made those guys gain so much power by taking over the whole of existence the way they did. What was highlighted
i. Desire for power existed (syrian and serpents)
ii. Envy (they envied the atlanteans)
iii.Fear of loosing an opportunity ( they wanted Anu to begin the process of taking over the atlantean planet and if he didn't they would)

Understand that THEN oneness and equality did not exist in any way whatsoever – Anu ‘desired to be ‘God’’ and so he ‘acted’ accordingly - I suggest you continue reading through Hitler’s experience, I suggest you also read Alice Bailey’s experience, two Parts have been added on the website so far – the rest still to follow, so keep an eye open, here are the links:

http://www.desteni-universe.co.za/forum … ight=alice
(Alice Bailey Part One)

http://www.desteni-universe.co.za/forum … ight=alice
(Alice Bailey Part Two)

And here is also video interview on ‘The History of the Universe’ that’ll give perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I91JoD8CD-E
(History of the Universe 1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT30YUYkQGA
(History of the Universe 2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHTqTeCZ_wU
(History of the Universe 3)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_2SDIFtfsM
(History of the Universe 4)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzv_R0IVtFg
(History of the Universe 5)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRUEoQVOqX8
(History of the Universe 6)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7hkh9ImfTI
(History of the Universe 7)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CwHkpgSETs
(History of the Universe 8 )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4mUaijFvII
(History of the Universe 9)

So – i) would be ‘correct’ as the Desire for Power = the Desire of being ‘God’.

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3. Why were Anu's parents feared coz if i could remember, Jack said most of the beings then feared the Annunaki race, especially their parents who where the first to document stuff.

They were feared from the perspective of their ‘Power to Create’ as the Annunaki were viewed as the ‘Creators’ of existence, along with the Draconians – their ‘creative abilities’ were viewed as ‘having power’ – and so it was ‘generally accepted’ that the Annunaki was ‘more powerful’ – you will find perspective in the question in the video links above ‘History of the Universe’ and also I suggest you watch the Yankor video interviews (not yet completed):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpo0uQ8fsDk
(Yankor 1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Si0jh5mKms
(Yankor 2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dv5mLGQVPc
(Yankor 3)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoFQqpMJB4s
(Yankor 4)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgPEQkepmKg
(Yankor 5)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEPZ0uXBtOE
(Yankor 6)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MGIjgAtDBE
(Yankor 7)

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4. Before all this sytem and mind conciousness stuff, Anu was afraid of not existing which highlights
i. Fear existed then
ii. Depletion or death of a planet existed

Yes – indeed, ‘beings did cease to exist’ – they did ‘die’ – in the ‘History of the Universe’ interviews is perspective, also in Alice Bailey’s documents she mentions the process – yes, ‘fear’ existed – have a look: You ‘create that which you are’ – meaning that us as humanity as mind consciousness systems was designed in Anu’s image and likeness – so all that we are, represents all that he was. I suggest you read through these four threads for further perspective:

http://www.desteni-universe.co.za/forum … php?t=1935

http://www.desteni-universe.co.za/forum … php?t=1936

http://www.desteni-universe.co.za/forum … php?t=1937

http://www.desteni-universe.co.za/forum … php?t=1934

http://www.desteni-universe.co.za/forum … php?t=1938

No – planets didn’t ‘deplete’ – planets ‘ceased to exist’ when Anu destroyed the planets and enslaved the interdimensional beings to ‘establish his kingdom’ for him as earth and dimensions – where he will be ‘the one ‘God’’.

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5. Why did Anu change his form to something pleasant before he presented himself to the Atlanteans. What was highlighted

i. He was concerned about his looks
ii. Seperation by image existed

Yes to ii) but also it was a ‘method used’ to deceive and manipulate the Atlanteans – if he ‘presented’ himself differently – they might ‘react towards him differently’, which would ‘create an opening for him’ to accordingly ‘manipulate’ them.

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6. Why was the wisdom of the Atlanteans not really highlighted as to what exactly made them wise ( Coz they were really helpful but the story made them look weak like geeks all brains no muscle)

The Atlantean race was the ‘representation of wisdom’ – each ‘race’ within existence had a specific ‘representation’ of themselves – the ‘atlanteans representation was ‘wisdom’ and water. In the History of Mankind video interviews is perspective and here is another question and perspective that’ll assist:

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Question:

The way Jack presents the story of man, Anu needed "gold", but it's not presented clearly what this "gold" actually was or why it was needed to keep Anu alive?
Perspective:

See – each race within the interdimensional existence ‘believed’ they required the ‘source’ that represented their race within the interdimensional existence to have the ability to continue to exist – thus – the Annunaki’s source was ‘gold’ – ‘gold’ was a glistening essence within the interdimensional existence – this ‘gold’ only manifested within and as certain manifestations within the interdimensional existence – ‘gold’ representing their supremacy as ‘The Creators’ – the Annunaki were known as the Creators within the interdimensional existence.

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The Atlanteans were viewed as the ‘wise race’ because of their ‘presence and presentation’ of themselves – they were ‘graceful’ / ‘perfect’ within their expression of themselves – they ‘seemed’ ‘wise’. Satya was ‘in charge then’ of the ‘education of the young ones birthed into existence – ‘educating them’ of all the races that exist within existence and would take them ‘on trips’ throughout existence – the Atlanteans only occasionally when permitted. The Atlanteans had the ability to recognize a beings’ ‘creative essence’ and ‘unlock it’ as each being had a specific ‘creative essence’ within them according to their specific race. The Atlanteans could see right through into the ‘core’ of the being – and ‘confide’ in the being the ‘essence’ of themselves, what their capable of ‘creatively expressing’ – how to practice their specific ‘creative essence’ within them as them – also beings went to the Atlanteans for counseling before making a ‘great decision’ – as the Atlanteans had the ability to ‘limitly’ see into the future – not entirely. ‘Limitly’ from the perspective that they couldn’t even ‘predict’ / see what was to come from Anu – as they could only see into the future based on the words of a question asked - then they’d only see the future according to the words as question asked – nothing more – only that particular ‘line’ of future could they see based on the words of the question. And they could not see their own future – only other races who asked questions – it was their ‘placement’ within existence.

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7. Those who fled during the attack where no more mentioned.

Of those who ‘fled’ – you will hear ‘more about’ in Alice Bailey’s documents – some ‘fled’ though, over ‘time’ in the interdimensional existence became ‘crazy / insane’ – also those became some of the first ‘demon manifestations’ of the ‘demon dimensions’. Others were discovered, taken into the dimensional realm designed by Anu of the White Light – others designed their own ‘realm’ within which they became ‘lost’ over ‘time’ and was left there because they posed as no ‘threat’ to existence – they became completely oblivious to the ‘existence beyond the one they designed for themselves.

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8. Was procreation existing then knowing that female and male forms existed and how did they procreate if yes

This ‘varied’ depending on race – some races were through actual ‘penetration’, others were through ‘outside separate source birthing means’, others were through ‘points’ connecting to each other in the centre of their being where both male/female would ‘birth a new being’, others were through ‘centre point mind connections’, others were through their ‘essences connecting in similarity as one’ where they merge into one another as one and from here birth a ‘interdimensional being’. There is an example given in Alice Bailey’s story of how she was ‘birthed’ into the interdimensional existence and also within the History of the Universe video interviews.

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9. Honestly i feel there's something u guys know but u can't tell us probably so we can focus on the realization process but that's my mind wandering and being suspicious probably using 2 years to undo something that has been going on for billions of years is not that simple (but what was being used for measuring time, and does time exist in the dimensions knowing that only earthlings experienced day and night).

We can’t ‘tell you who you are as the manifested living experience in application of life as all as one as equal’ – otherwise it’ll just be knowledge and not the actual living expression of life as you.
So – this process is for each one individually – to stand up and see for yourself, stand up and live you – amalgamate you within life as life as all as one as equal – then you will also ‘discover’ that you will be able to direct, assist and support beings as you – but you cannot live their process for them – they have to do it for themselves as you must do it for yourself.

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10. There are no accounts stating if the beings that were used to power the physical form (us) returned after death 1 back to their full memory of being an Atlantean or whatever being even after this new age or world began 2 yrs ago.

After you died and crossed over – your ‘soul construct’ information of the mind consciousness system experience as you as what you were on earth, was ‘removed’ from within you and stored in the Akashic records – everything you have ever experienced in the past/past lives was not REAL – but all system programmed information from which you were separate in it’s most absolute manifestation.
All your ‘lives on earth’ as a mind system was recorded in the ‘soul construct’ within you – which is a separate manifestation connected to the mind consciousness system ‘saving all the information of your life as a mind system on earth’ to be taken after death and stored in the Akashic records – and you always were born into this world with a new mind consciousness system.

All of you as who you are is HERE as you – the mind system suppress you as who you really are – so, stop the mind and live you, because then you’ll realise and see and understand as you that past lives are irrelevant, though interesting if you’re ‘curious’ – because all it was, was programmed system information of a mind system and not real.

Here is a perspective within this document wherein Jack gives perspective of the soul construct and Akashic records:

http://www.desteni-universe.co.za/forum … highlight=
(Read the tenth post from the top – the long one)

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11. Can there be more explanations to Anu coming here in 2006 which didn't happen again. Not from the perspective of the girl who changed everything, but from the reason of coming in 2006, and why people felt the world was going to end in 2012 (i just hope it's not about that big earth clock thingie that would later face aquarius stuff)

‘The world ending’ has been prophesized by many in the past, even now – but the most ‘hype’ was made through the ‘mayan calender’ where it is said that the calendar stop at 2012 – because of this, human beings believe/think the world will end – and because human beings fearing death – such great ‘hype’ is made out of the 2012 situation – but their actually manifesting it within an alternate reality of their mind through manifesting their fear of the end – the end – means death and people fear death.

Here’s a thread for perspective on 2012:

http://www.desteni-universe.co.za/forum … php?t=2230

Here’s also another perspective:

http://www.desteni-universe.co.za/forum … php?t=1935

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12. When the planets was manifesting into solid stuff based on the gravitational field caused by the sound crystals, doesn't it mean the earth was being abused and that's it's way of rebelling and the sound crystals in the core, have they been removed or it's still there?

The sound crystals infused together with the compression and thus within and as the manifestation of all the planets, in other words – the sound crystals compressed the planets – and through the ‘gravitational pull’ – manifested together within and as the entire essence of the planet – so it’s not there anymore – the essence of the sound crystals are within and as the entire manifested planets.
Realise that we’ve been abusing existence since the very beginning of our existence because of separation – where we are now within the experience of ourselves is but the manifestation of who we have accepted and allowed ourselves to be and become over eons of time – you ‘create’ / ‘manifest’ that which you are = which is exactly what we’ve done – so actually see ourselves as what we have accepted and allowed to be and become which is revealed in the current status/manifestation of this world as ourselves.

So – with regards to the manifestation of existence in this moment – is the manifestation of the ‘nature’ of ourselves we have accepted and allowed us to be and become.

If you have any further questions - let me know.

Veno

Here are some extra added threads I suggest you go through:

http://www.desteni-universe.co.za/forum … ight=meier

http://www.desteni-universe.co.za/forum … ight=cycle

http://www.desteni-universe.co.za/forum … =enki+hoth

http://www.desteni-universe.co.za/forum … ht=kingdom

http://www.desteni-universe.co.za/forum … vuitiuukus

Here is a statement Mykey made on the Desteni boards touching on our origins:

The beginning:

What is the beginning, where is the beginning, who is the beginning - who and what is responsible for the manifestation of Man - the manifestation of existence - the manifestation of the universe - the manifestation of earth , the animal kingdom, nature, the oceans, the human physical body - the manifestation of mind consciousness systems...?

We 'delve' into the histories - searching for answers - for the reason and purpose and how, what, when, where, and who of life and the beginning. Looking at the past of 'what has been done' - though not who those of the past were as beings.
This seems to be an important factor human beings of this world tend to miss: They look at the history at what has been done, the acts - and not at who the beings were and how they actually experienced themselves: I am an example of this.

Therefore - the answer to the question of the origin of life, the beginning, the starting point of existence of all 'living' things - won't be found, won't be discovered by or within anything that exist within this existence or of this world - because it is being attempted to be found/discovered with what exist of this world and according to acts/occurrences that have taken place in the past. Instead of looking at the past as who the beings were that participated.

Why has the search for the origin of life, the beginning, the starting point consumed so the minds of many of this world?

Will the 'ultimate answer' really change anything.

Here we've done an interview with the first molecule - does this change anything as who and what human beings have accepted and allowed themselves to become?

It's fascinating yes - though - why be obsessed and possessed with the of life, the beginning, the starting point if we clearly see that what we've done in the 'past' - was not life - here is manifested as the experience of man the 'outflow' of our 'beginning' or 'starting point'.

Thus - we have discovered a starting point, a beginning, the origin of life as who we are in every moment of self honesty within and as oneness and equality.

You will not find the beginning, the starting point, the origin of life in the past - the answers will not be there because it's the question that contains the 'problem' in the first place.

Life has not yet existed - a 'beginning' , a 'starting point' as not yet existed - such words were 'built' and 'designed' of a system - to understand and comprehend such terms as an experience. Much to Anu's example...

A system cannot know it's origin or it's starting point or it's own beginning - because the systems' beginning, starting point, and origin was not designed by itself - but by an outside separate source or creator.

Anu - as all that has been known in the past - all the knowledge and information you have of the past thus far - is all of this system - designed and created by a separate outside source.

You want to know the 'real' beginning, the 'real' starting point, the origin of existence of all expressions within existence - 'get to know yourself'.

Anu - but an example of all - that 'part' within us all - human beings - you want to live - you apply self honesty, self forgiveness and self application in every moment - here as you exist the answer to the origin, the beginning and the starting point.

You might be surprised at what you see, discover and realise as you.

MyKey

08-28-99
Q: Well, this is one of the problems I am dealing with in trying to write this history of mankind. As I understand it, or as I am trying to figure it out from the literature, prior to the 'Fall in Eden,' mankind lived in a 4th density state. Is that correct?
A: Semi/sort of.
Q: Please be more specific.
A: 4th density in another realm, such as time/space continuum, etc.
Q: Okay, so this realm changed, as a part of the cycle; various choices were made: the human race went through the door after the 'gold,' so to speak, and became aligned with the Lizzies after the 'female energy' consorted with the wrong side, so to speak. This is what you have said. This resulted in a number of effects: the breaking up of the DNA, the burning off of the first ten factors of DNA, the separation of the hemispheres of the brain...
A: Only reason for this: you play in the dirt, you're gonna get dirty.
Q: (T) What were we before the "Fall?"
A: 3rd density STO.
Q: (T) We are STS at this point because of what happened then?
A: Yes.
[...]

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/organic_portals.htm

http://montalk.net/notes/atlantis-and-2012-frv-as-4d

We are 3d STS, but soon that will change.

Here's my current understanding.  Whether it's correct or not is open to interpretation.

Actions in and of themselves cannot be STO or STS.  What defines the orientation is the intent behind the actions.

Take eating for example.  Some eat things because they taste good.  Like ice cream or steak.  The body doesn't require these to maintain itself so the action can be defined as STS by the intent behind it (tastes good / feels good).

Eating in and of itself does not have to be an STS action.  I know the body is not me.  It's just out on loan.  So when it tells me it needs food then it is STO to provide it what it needs.  Fruits, vegatables, nuts, and berries have all the things the body requires.  So to make it an STO action I would provide the body with good things until it is satisfied.

I call that, and raise.

Take a look at this clip and explain how you feel about we use nature that exists around us for our own pleasure. I will remind you all, we share this world with others species. Yet Man has set Himself as Dominator. Subjugator. Judge. As I have said before, we are all Service To Self, in every way. We live. We act. Our actions define who we are. And what are we? Selfish. Have a look:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 3661048967

im not OVER HERE to argue anything.  only to give some INFO.

I hear ya there.  I hate arguing.  So we'll just let the Cs argue amoungst themselves.  Hehe.

Q: (L) So, we always have the power to return to being STO? Even in 3rd density?
A: Yes.

A: But it is the soul that matters, not the body. The body dies not the soul.

astonishing!

do with it as you will. i dont think STO and STS concepts are even of interest to those that arent into certain esoterics.  the terms themselves look very basic but they arent.  embedded in the terms are ancient world history, the story of man as a dimensional creature in the universe, alien interventionism, even myth and fable.  the terms break down behavior of gods and men.  u have to buy into the idea that there are gods, aliens, roles, missions, etc.  the word SERVICE is the whole banana.  it first caught my eye since i was in a service profession.  i was trying to make sense of it.  they look metaphysical, and they are, but theyre not distinct.  Service " That which is produced, then traded, bought or sold, then finally consumed and consists of an action or work"  or " Doing something for someone else without thought of reward or payment."  look at the first part--consume, bought, traded....and the latter without reward or payment.  does anybody in a service profession not wanna be paid?  for their services?  i think not.  and the shamans purposefully DO STO.  it is for a purpose.  not a selfish one though.  their 'reward' is the uneslavement of their people.

im not sure thats ever happened on earth.  maybe for awhile in the infamous beginning.  but it doesnt look like it.  and the shamans do take payment,  they always have.  they do exchanges.  like barter.  i heal you--u give me a chicken.  i free the tribe, u build my hut.  its mutual exchange.  change like the term says, to TRADE.  the shamans and masters' work is to non-enslave.  and u have to first think ur a slave and that u need to be freed.  and u need to free others.  but from who?  from what?  how's that work?  who says so?  u have to buy that ur enslaved, that YOU are a slave and that ur fellow men are too.  and that u need to free yourself and others.  from oppression and dominion.  from control.  if one doesnt think theyre controlled.  well then, no meaning.   the whole thing binds to what men do for men, or not do, and what gods do to men. or not do.  in that sense it is a dynamic of THIS universe.  and its big here, when it may not be as big anywhere else in other universes.  this one however, does play it.  and as the C's say, as do other channeled sources, u cant be STO in an STS world, in a human body, completely.  but u can work towards one or the other.  ultimately.  but then you'd have to believe that one route was better than the other to strive for.   if ur a dominating reptilian and u liked it that way, as a great warrior reptilian, u'd look like and probably be a fool if u were STO and ur peers found that out about u.   u wouldnt move up well in a great warrior race society that dominated universes full of humans and their ilk, and the like.  it wouldnt suit you.  or ur goals. enslaver races, societies need slaves.  all for the various reasons.  dominator races and societies need slaves.  theyre workers.  most of the time AGAINST THEIR WILL.  thats the whole POINT.  making others do YOUR will, and not their own.  they first have to know they have a will, and early made humans didnt even know they had one.  i think their first step in awakening was to find that out.  thats how far back the rabbit hole goes.  the manipulation goes.  but no one has to buy that either.  with all the "free will" DONCHA KNOW.  ha.  so there u go kid mongo.  all one and equal.  we will see.  that would be nice.  but the fact is, it ISNT EQUAL and it never has been.  not with caste systems, trade systems, commerce systems and hierarchies.  as we KNOW them, here.   all i know is that i abhor slavery.  and i guess the real deal is that when u have been a slave, all u think about is getting free, being free.  getting away from the enslavers.  u dont want be dominated and forced into things.  apparently, i think weve been both in this universe, slave and enslaver.  but if u have ever been an enslaver, and looked into the eyes of ur slaves, and u have seen the misery, and the hate, and if its affected ur conscience--well then, maybe u have learned ur lesson.  u have to have been both,  sometime.  and felt both conditions.  and learned from both.   and ur here to either perpetuate STO or STS.  if ur criminal, and sick, and pathological, and u have no conscience, then u keep the status quo as it is in this universe.  but thats from a current human POV.  with human characteristics of conscience and soul and all that.  slavers and controllers'and their ponerology gets stronger and bigger , and they reign, in the world of slavers.  we came in here with this whole set-up.  some of us believe all this--some dont.  and the perfect slave doesnt know he is one.   but the enslavers do know who they are.  its their practice.  i think much of the problem is that we keep putting human traits onto alien races.  we humanize alien races.  and theyre not of the same make up.  not at all.  they have gotten strong and powerful and technologically advanced in their great motherships and with their fantastic weapons and feats of strength and will because they have been STS.  STO is NOT the goal of many species.  this is a more local universal battle, affecting humans most of all, and a few other key alien players.   thats about it.

Have you read some of the Cass transcripts?  If not I can break down the fundamentals.  Let me know.

The thing with sts/sto is I see it beyond the physical realm (which in the 7 density structure includes the "dimensions" or astral).  Yea, in the physical realm it certainly looks like duality.  And yes, transcending duality does seem to be an optimal goal.  But seeing the terms in their larger form, in relation to existence, the duality idea of it kinda falls away.

Basically, the model says there is only One.  And we are all fractal replications of this One but are still part of One at the same time.  This One created all with help of other creator parts of self.  Now, how would this One go about teaching these fractal replication parts of self about the fundamentals of creation through free-will exploration?  And that's where the sts/sto model does seem to fit.  Expand self and other selves to allow unhindered creative expansion towards infinity.  Contract self and enslave others to constrict creative expansion towards entrophy.  At the end of the day, expansion is really the only option unless a part of the One just wishes to fall back into the void as non-vibration.  So in essense it's not really polarity at that level.  It's just how existence expands towards infinity or contracts towards entrophy when speaking about free-will interactions between replications of One.  The final goal of All within One is to learn all that One knows, join back with One at the highest vibration, and then create their own universe.

Concerning the first molecule and "where did the creator come from" it's pretty much along the lines.  You'll have to understand that the concepts of how the "first" came about came long before the destini material (for me).  So I'm seeing the molecule thing as a watered-down repeat of the concepts of origin of All.  Anyway, the Creator (One)(Source)(etc) which we are all part of was in potential within the infinite void.  The infinite void contains all things in potential.  The toothbrush was contained within the infinite void as potential, just to provide a down-to-earth example.  The potential over eons of non-time (since there was no time) formed within itself an awareness of itself.  There was a distrubance in the void.

Of course, at this point it's hard to reach out to that level.  Did the disturbance just happen as a consequence of so much potential?  I think that's what happened.  The other idea is that the void created the disturbance.  But I don't think the void was aware of itself at that point.  So after the disturbance came an awareness of the disturbance which was an awareness of self.  The infinite void then did what any good infinite void would do.  It replicated the disturbance to create a larger disturbance.  After much self reflection on it's disturbances, the first manifested vibration was created within the void.  The rest is history.

Or something like that. 

Spi wrote:

Harmful/Harmless + STS/STO Perspective: That Pleiadian woman ate a pear! I'll say she's harmful. (????????????????)

STS/STO Perspective: I can't blame her, she's in the physical realm where laws are composed that to eat so to survive.

Eating fruits is not a STS thing, the plants are begging for any animal to eat its fruits
and spread its seeds, it is an exchange!

"I(the plant) feed you with my fruits and you grant my offspring...
See how beautiful colors they have, how sweet they are,  ahhh the smell !!
When they are ready, you will easy spot/find them either by sight or olfaction,
take as many as you need, but please take them!!!"

Here on tropical forest the bats are the number 1 seeds spreads, reforestator.

I meant like a people are seeing it as harmful not STS. I can change it and say a Pleiadian ate a chicken leg (They do eat meat but not as much), and that might be perceived as harmful as she was probably responsible for first killing the chicken and eating its leg.

The harmful/harmless + STO/STS perspective might work as not labeling their race, but may work well for their actions. Just a thought.

"If you're not giving it, you're not getting it, love"
~~carefulcarpenter