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			<title><![CDATA[Re: The Egos self deceptions about music]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=36932#p36932</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>StarCat wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The entire subterfuge of this work is to perpetuate the light-dark polarity...one against the other for seeming eternity and convince souls that they have to suffer for the very act of taking on the cloak of matter.</p></blockquote></div><p>We suffer because of our egos.<br />We crave for food, sex, tv, social status, knowledge<br />to feel proud, and many other little things, which <br />we rarely recognize anymore.<br />When the egos don&#039;t get what they desire, we suffer.<br />Most of the time, we give them their pleasure, because<br />we cannot bear the pain.<br />Today, there are many &quot;easy-way-outs&quot;, so we take them.<br />That is mechanical suffering. We don&#039;t have control<br />and are a slave to the ego.</p><p>The teaching of Samael Aun Weor calls out to<br />eliminate those attributes in our psyche.<br />The egos die, when we stop feeding them.<br />This process means great pain and suffering,<br />because we have to withstand their desires<br />and not take an easy way out.<br />That is conscious suffering. To suffer consciously,<br />willingly and to be aware of its purpose.</p><p>When the ego ceases to exist, it cannot drain as<br />much energy as before. Anyone who works on<br />himself with discipline, will sooner or later<br />experience changes in the consciousness, because<br />he will be given the consciousness which before<br />was used by the ego alone; for purposes far<br />away from awakening the consciousness <br />to superior worlds and living for the good of humanity.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 15:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: The Egos self deceptions about music]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=36922#p36922</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>There are no defects of the psyche, only misunderstandings in our ways of knowing which have gotten pff the path so to speak. That doctrine attempts to bind conscious souls to the infradimensions for mis-steps taken in the Earth life as unavoidable and immutable punishment and consequence for failing to achieve its definition of purity.....a perfection which cannot exist at our current stage of development. It appears good on the surface but it amounts to another game of the astral heirarchies....all of which are going to be dissolved.<br />The entire subterfuge of this work is to perpetuate the light-dark polarity...one against the other for seeming eternity and convince souls that they have to suffer for the very act of taking on the cloak of matter.<br />The soul is not destined nor intended to suffer all manner of deaths in the astral infernos for its mistakes within the fields of matter. This idea does not come from God but from fallen sources such as YHWH...etc.<br />THis was never intended.<br />Thank God this is not going to happen.<br />Those writings were for another time and that time is past.</p><p>I disagree with your position Whole Heartedly and these are my final comments on the matter.</p><p>IN Fortitude.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 11:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: The Egos self deceptions about music]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=36919#p36919</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>StarCat wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I know its all from the heart.</p></blockquote></div><p>Most of us have good intentions. We want to help.<br />But this does not guarantee help, otherwise humanity<br />would live in paradise, because really, most people<br />that help are filled with good intentions.</p><p>Samael Aun Weor did not write over 60 books<br />in order to lead humanity astray. How many people<br />will actually read his teachings? A few. How many<br />will understand it? In fact, how many people are<br />on a path that leads them to destruction?<br />Most of humanity, isn&#039;t it so?</p><p>When others want you to do evil, they need you to<br />understand their concept in a way that makes you<br />think it is good for others.</p><p>Our egos do this to us.</p><p>To understand that, and to see it in oneself and<br />others, does not raise anger towards them, but<br />compassion.</p><p>To change the headquarters of the microcosmos<br />is of course difficult and requires much effort;<br />but results can be seen on the way.</p><p>The path does not indicate that we are either good<br />or bad, but both. It gives us the keys, to eliminate<br />all defects from our psyche, for the divine attributes<br />to enter.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 10:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: The Egos self deceptions about music]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=36876#p36876</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>First I want to say thanks for the response, I know its all from the heart.<br />I don&#039;t often make it back to threads and I know I wrote this one like a space cadet...probably damn near impossible to catch my real meaning in some measure.<br />The doctrine of Weor, however is not acceptable...even moreso I find it a complete affront to the human race and one laden with all manner of the most severe judgements imagineable.<br />The Weor agenda is designed to keep the light dark polarity game spinning.<br />I find it even more a synchronistic matter that in the recent posting about the Gnosis work of John Lash it has been revealed that the name &quot; Samael &quot; literally translates to &quot; Blind God.&quot; I consider the study of some his work to have been an important step on the path but I wholly reject it as an exercise in creative thoughtform. Its too limiting and apocalyptic and expresses the deepest veiled hatred for the plight of humankind in this field of experience.<br />In the Grand Scheme of things Koradi has already had its day. We&#039;re bound for something larger.<br />Its not a higher source of wisdom. Strictly my feelings on the matter.</p><p>Good luck on the path</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (StarCat)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 23:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: The Egos self deceptions about music]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=36872#p36872</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>We cannot forget that music is the creation of some other person. Lyrics can bypass bias and analytical scrutiny if allowed(i.e you stop thinking while listening).. so it&#039;s like you&#039;re being brainwashed while listening.</p><p>If that&#039;s so, then I&#039;m one brainwashed person.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 22:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: The Egos self deceptions about music]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=36854#p36854</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>&quot;She takes no prisoners.&quot;</p><p>Unlike our egos pride, lust, envy, fear, gluttony, vanity, jealousy, hatred etc, that<br />trap her, or the consciousness, for their own benefit.</p><p>I, for example, am less envy of those who drive big cars, because instead<br />I&#039;m more proud to know things others don&#039;t. But it is illusive for me to <br />believe in a spiritual advancement because of that ego.<br />It is just another one, that feeds itself.</p><p>&quot;The warriors path is to identify and systematically subjugate the ego to the proper control of the higher self which is also the proper integration of the intuitive side of our awareness which has&nbsp; been suppressed, both internally and externally.&quot;</p><p>This path of the elimination of these egos pride, lust, envy, etc is explained in Samael Aun Weor&#039;s books, as well as on the site which contains a forum, audio lectures and many articles.</p><p> <a href="http://www.gnosticteachings.org">www.gnosticteachings.org</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 14:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[The Egos self deceptions about music]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=36850#p36850</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>The negative ego, when allowed full control over the expression of the Earthbound human will lead itself right down the path of destruction. The ego was never meant to be running our lives, but this became the case.<br />The warriors path is to identify and systematically subjugate the ego to the proper control of the higher self which is also the proper integration of the intuitive side of our awareness which has&nbsp; been suppressed, both internally and externally.<br />Music is a Meta Language. This needs to be pondered. Digital reproduction has corrupted music no end but that is another story. Music leads straight to the emotional plane and is a gateway and conduit to non locality in ways that are generally overlooked or not suspected. It is in a large sense, a very powerful programming tool which is and has been being used towards negative ends with the willful cooperation of guess who....the ego, or shadow side of mankind. <br />The game is always worked by using false mentation to stick people in their emotional bodies and run them in circles that lead nowhere. Hollywood keeps serving up the same old hash, same with pop music...most of it negative and people in total denial about it. People are addicted to pain in the main. The fractured spirits under the total control of the egos addiction to negative emotional body response, convince themselves that the music they like is a good thing, but in most cases its not. It speaks of suffering, warefare, violence, hatred...the list goes on.<br />It need not be lyrical either to convey these underworlds, from expanded states of consciousness....the Intent of anything can be felt. Tones have a colour and a feeling that goes far beyond the mundane, often leading to the most brutal corridors imaginable, not being accurately perceived by the fragmented human who has sold him-herself on addiction to self sustaining&nbsp; suffering. All of these icons, and meta forces perceived or not, signify alignment with something in the consciousness of the listner. They don&#039;t call it &quot; Death Metal &quot; without a reason.<br />The ego self likes to identify with all these negative images. Its considered cool or somehow heroic, but its not.<br />Its really just a form of martyrdom with energy mining underlying.<br />The ego will always go for whats shiny, what it thinks it wants, and more often than not whats bad for it and the body. The body will not respond well over time to bad vibrations. The ego self will seek to contradict and lie about the deeper needs of the body and the real truth about its twisted desires.<br />Its no different than watching voilence that is made out to be entertainment and denying that its a bad idea to image those things into ones consciousness. Its no different than putting artifice and excess into the body and then expecting allopathic poison to cure it. The populace was instructed to develop a taste for the wrong kinds of energy and they mostly did it. The sickness gets replicated and permutated and keeps running hosts in circles of pain. Denial keeps it strong. If everyones&#039; doing it....walk the other way.<br />I know a sage guy who said you don&#039;t have to go far to find negativity....or something like you don&#039;t need to go seeking it...its on every street corner.<br />What I suggest is be honest with yourself about areas where you might be blind and stop feeding your consciousness lower dimensional programs in the form of music you think you like. If you are on a path of rapid awareness expansion this contradiction of self will eventually get thrown back at you in very weird ways until the message is grok&#039;d. People that are celebrating and listening to some of what passes for music are running old programs plain and simple, and wallowing in them...flaunting the ego self out in the fields of matter ad infinitum.</p><p>For initiates....whatever initiation really is.......the Goddess has to be integrated. She knows what doors to close and knows what ones not to open. She knows what feels off, and also calls a spade a spade. <br />She takes no prisoners. She heals all wounds and takes us back home.</p><p>Good luck on the path</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 11:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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