Noble Realms — Whose enlightened here? I got a question.

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null@example.com (Hkelukka) — Sat, 29 Apr 2006 18:47:23 +0000

Good question.

Re: Whose enlightened here? I got a question.

null@example.com (pocketable-L) — Sat, 29 Apr 2006 18:24:20 +0000

LightningEye wrote:

Resonance. That's what we seek.
And if we do not resonate with the world pulled over our eyes, then how can we resonate with the people who believe in that world?

Yes... True true !

Re: Whose enlightened here? I got a question.

null@example.com (LightningEye) — Sat, 29 Apr 2006 17:21:16 +0000

Resonance. That's what we seek.

And if we do not resonate with the world pulled over our eyes, then how can we resonate with the people who believe in that world?

Re: Whose enlightened here? I got a question.

null@example.com (Capitan) — Sat, 29 Apr 2006 16:47:44 +0000

Positiveone:

It is my urge to give you advice, as I like to do, but I don't know what I am talking about. So I will simply say that I am in the same boat as you. I feel pretty alone, not able to connect on a deep level with anyone I know personally. On here most people are much closer to my interests, but Noble Realms lacks the personal part of the relationship. Also I don't think it takes being enlightened to be alone, many people of the world feel just as alone.

If you find an answer to your question let me know.

Re: Whose enlightened here? I got a question.

null@example.com (Jeffrey of Troy) — Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:52:57 +0000

If you have recently left a "world" where everyone was co-dependent, you may have to go through a period of alone-ness to learn how to take care of yourself psychologically and emotionally, before you can become able to enter into healthy relationships/interactions with others who have also achieved that.

If you complete the transition, you will find yourself entering a new "world" where the emotional connections are healthy in a way un-imaginable to those living in Shadow. It does take some time, but the good thing about time is that it's like pie: the more you take, the more you'll have.

Re: Whose enlightened here? I got a question.

null@example.com (pokerboy101381) — Thu, 27 Apr 2006 00:27:16 +0000

And to answer your actual question.....you dont deal with loneliness....you fix it.

No one meant to be alone gets lonely. It's a sign of something.....like being hungry is a sign of hunger.

We are pack animals. As we evolve....we are capable and some of us even crave being part of more than one pack.

Don't be afraid to "change clothes"(responsibly) as you see fit.

Re: Whose enlightened here? I got a question.

null@example.com (pokerboy101381) — Thu, 27 Apr 2006 00:01:49 +0000

Find someone "beneath your level" and bless them with your affection.

....even if just for a few weeks.

That's guaranteed to get the ball rolling.

Too many of us on the path of "enlightenment" underestimate the "unwashed masses" capacity for understanding. As a group consciousness....yeah...they suck pretty bad....but individually....that's a whole 'nother matter.

Icebreakers.....food, drinking, drugs, gossip, compliments....pick one.

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If you wanna do it online....you could always hit up myspace.com. They have bulk adding software. You could have a network of 2000+ people in hours. Some won't like you....some will love you....don't take it personally(until you get to know them). Law of averages baby!

I'll repeat....be sure to don't underestimate people based on your initial impression of them. That is a killer when one is trying to create a network of people. Expect funky things when first meeting new people....if interested...they usually are nervous/on edge too.

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Whatever you do....when first meeting people....amp up your body language by 50% and tone down your verbal language by 50%.

Re: Whose enlightened here? I got a question.

null@example.com (Jedi) — Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:12:17 +0000

Postitivone wrote:

How do you deal with loneliness?
Do I have to choose between being alone and being comitted?

If I am perceiving this to be about the alienation felt on the path of seeking I first have a quote from the Ra Material book 4.

Questioner: Could I say, then, that implicit in the process of becoming
adept is the seeming polarization towards service to self because the adept
becomes disassociated with many of his kind?
Ra: I am Ra. This is likely to occur. The apparent happening is
disassociation whether the truth is service to self and thus true disassociation
from other-selves or service-to-others and thus true association with the
heart of all other-selves and disassociation only from the illusory husks
which prevent the adept from correctly perceiving the self and other-self as
one.
Questioner: Then you say that this effect of disassociation on the service-to others
adept is a stumbling block or slowing process in reaching that goal to
which he aspires? Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. This disassociation from the miasma of
illusion and misrepresentation of each and every distortion is a quite
necessary portion of an adept’s path. It may be seen by others to be
unfortunate.
Questioner: Then is this, from the point of view of the fifteenth archetype(Devil/Matrix of Spirit/Dark Night of the Soul),
somewhat of an excursion into the Matrix of the Spirit in this process? Does
that make any sense?
Ra: I am Ra. The excursion of which you speak and the process of
disassociation is most usually linked with that archetype you call Hope
which we would prefer to call Faith. This archetype is the Catalyst of the
Spirit and, because of the illuminations of the Potentiator of the Spirit, will
begin to cause these changes in the adept’s viewpoint.

I'd like to also add that daily meditation not only helps one in unspeakable ways, but also connects one to everything and alleviates the feelings of loneliness.

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null@example.com (tenetnosce) — Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:23:15 +0000

I'm not making any claims of enlightenment, but here are some thoughts:

Loneliness is basically a feeling of disconnection.

As has been pointed out, there can be several reasons, but if you get right down to it it's the disconnection thing.

Therefore you may wish to contemplate the fact that everything is connected. Even if only intellectually right now, but convince yourself that it is true, know that it must be true, and then set your intention to experience that. Then watch for it.

The experience can come at any time and in any form. It may be subtle, or it may be grand. But it will be enough.

Hope that helps!

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null@example.com (StarCat) — Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:25:56 +0000

Lonileness can be overcome but our Earthbound ego selves do not always care for the timetable.
I know a sage who says something like once you become a fringe dweller, you'll never quite fit in.
This is a blessing. What you may be wanting in a partner, committed or not is someone who is more in step with your inner nature, more like you on a spiritual level. All humans have too much inner chatter. We need to quiet this inner dialogue and turn it to focus on what we want in our lives which is not just thoughts but feelings. The thing you want in a companion is more a feeling. You know what it feels like. Feel it. The things we face here that seemingly don't make sense are not easy to face, none of them. Sometimes when you can fall back, re-group, redefine, be patient, and keep asking spirit for creative options...I think they will be presented. On some level you have to believe you are worthy. Toss all forms of guilt. Remember you are powerful and take your power back. Sometimes manifesting things here takes a while, but successful practice helps. There are small miracles to be made. Drop all things and people who could be sapping your energy.
Consolidate, and keep things zen and neat. A warrior gathers and stores power.
Do something very nice for your body that nurtures it. Stop all manner of negative media like TV.
Cell phones are also not a good idea. People that are in the wake up zone are scattered about.
Be open to traveling or moving to hook up. I did it, you can too. When you start to reclaim your power and your birthrights, your life will change. As far as being committed, we tend to be set up to learn the most in committed relationships by my experience, but there are other valid ways.

Good luck on the path

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null@example.com (PleiadianHealer) — Wed, 26 Apr 2006 07:25:37 +0000

Loneliness is a sign of a closed heart. Never underestimate the power of crystals. This might help:

http://www.energymuse.com/e-store/prod_ … 4630592069

Re: Whose enlightened here? I got a question.

null@example.com (Infinity_+_1) — Wed, 26 Apr 2006 07:15:27 +0000

Easy. Hope.

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/torkomsa … pr06.shtml

Enjoy!

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null@example.com (SednaSphere) — Wed, 26 Apr 2006 07:10:09 +0000

I don't believe so. Even if you are in a commited relationship, you can be alone, or feel alone, anyway. And if you are alone, you can feel a real sense of togetherness with friends and family, not just signifigant others. We do live in a
world that gives traditional choices in this matter preference over creative, individualized solutions to the need for companionship, however. Yet each individual has different needs. Some people can be perfectly happy single, others
would never be happy that way. Some people are in relationships simply because they are afraid to be alone. But if something, God forbid, should happen to our loved one, we have to have a core strength to be happy alone if necessary. Parodoxically, once we accept this, we are likely to meet someone and that means not thinking about ourselves only, but another person, to love like you love
yourself, not just to make you feel good. What do you think?

The thing is , if you think you must make a choice between two extremes, either
completely alone or completely tied down, neither one sounds very good, at least not to me! So as with everything else, we need to nurture the ideas, the qualities, in ourselves which are spiritual and yet earthy and balanced, whatever that means for us. Then we can attract into our lives people we might find good for a relationship. But that doesn't mean you have to hop on plane to Vegas and get
married that night! You know what I'm saying?

Not a very enlightened answer, but something to contribute to help myself as much as you in this matter! I can't really answer, because this is a dilemma for alot of seekers. Lipstick Mystic had some good things to say about this. I'm working on some of those ideas myself, and some others as well.

Whose enlightened here? I got a question.

null@example.com (Postitivone) — Wed, 26 Apr 2006 06:27:47 +0000

How do you deal with loneliness?

Do I have to choose between being alone and being comitted?