About being right or wrong........

I would like to point out that usually there's at least one perspective from which EVERYONE is right about EVERYTHING.  However depending on your perspective, EVERYONE can also be WRONG about everything at exactly the same time. And everything in between. All combinations and variations in these perspectives create the realities and energy exchanges we call "LIFE". It's these arguments which are the driving force of life (and the destructive force at the same time.) It's up to us to enjoy (love) or dislike (hate) these arguments and their results. That is the essence of freewill - the choice of how to view the circumstances (right, wrong?) we've been handed. In that sense, we do truly create our own reality. As living beings we are in many ways a manifestation of the combination of all our arguments and a result of how we choose to handle the outcome.

The first person who agrees with me proves this point. Likewise, the first person who disagrees with me proves this point. So I am always right and wrong at the same time. Impossible.......? Possible........? Is an argument also an agreement at the same time?

Ultimately being right or wrong (on/off, up/down, in/out, 1/0, hot/cold, exists/does not exist, everything/nothing, or any of the other infinite ways you want to say it) is irrelevant, even though it's everything. The meaning of the word EVERYTHING (i.e. infinity) is key. So many arguments, so much time..............

That's what I love about reading this forum - lots of farout ideas that make sense, and don't make sense, all at the same time. I love it all. Even the parts I don't like.

Hmmm...

Actually, I was going for the multi-dimensional awareness thing, while assuming a singular-personal perspective.

Simplicity.

If you're right, but not effective, then nothing gets done.

If you're effective, but not right, then tyranny results.

If you're ineffective and not right, you will eventually be replaced by someone better.

So to be both right and effective at the same time would seem to be the best choice for most occasions. Sometimes options are not available, or if they are available, they cannot be utilized properly. In these situations, consider the alternatives which preserve the most options for being both and right to the greatest degree which can be reasonably achieved. If you should find yourself going against the path of least resistance, take heart, since you're probably on the right track.

The problem is that nobody can see beyond the choices that they can understand. Then again, sometimes this is done for their own protection. lol

Remember the words of Master Fu Ling:   He who stand on toilet, high on pot!

Ciao

Thou hast spake thusly:  I'ma haveta pop a cap in ya now yo!

I know I am going to get smacked for this, but I can't resist:

I first read that quote years ago, and I still it's funny. 

Thou hast spake thusly:  I'ma haveta pop a cap in ya now yo!

So, bro wha dat be? Why doos dat in de Vegas make it like drag? Smoke it like granny in de garden!  Yo, 'chupto?

Ciao

I can guarantee you, a lot of people here in the Forum can see right thru that. And now, my condolences -- you just signed up for another tour of earth.

hehehehe...you may as well just said he sinned and is now going to hell!  lmao!

What's wrong with Earth?  It's a wonderful tool....just like anything else can be.   When he is ready to "leave"....he will.  No sooner, no later.

Consider:

If you are in Las Vegas, you are in a sea of different energies, which may not be conducive to focusing, much less spiritual growth --- Las Vegas, spiritual? The two go together like the words Jumbo Shrimp. Same for Dallas where I live -- couldn't be a worse vibration in the country for personal growth.

Don't get caught up in the right-wrong trap; i.e, that "there is no right or wrong, everyting's relative"... New Age gibble. But it is better to be appropriate than right or wrong...
Consider that you can be right and lose.
Consider that you can be wrong and be effective.
Consider that you can be right and be ineffective...
so what's the deal?  Try paying attention to what your intention is -- it precedes right, wrong, or appropriate. And it is by that that you 'judge' yourself... i.e., "create your reality".

Cheers

Why you dogging vegas , man?!   I'ma haveta pop a cap in ya now yo!  ;-)

The words Jumbo Shrimp do go together.   In the world of shrimp, they are indeed jumbo. 

It's not so much where your at, it's who you are.    Growth can be achieved anywhere.....ya just gotta catch the vibe.   The vibe is not gonna catch you.

Personally....I choose not to live in a bubble(yet?).  I'm a fool, No joke.

"Ultimately being right or wrong (on/off, up/down, in/out, 1/0, hot/cold, exists/does not exist, everything/nothing, or any of the other infinite ways you want to say it) is irrelevant, even though it's everything."

This is amazing! Astounding! Superb mental masterbation. Baffle 'em with bullsh*t. I have truly never seen the whole New Age philosophy so well expounded in two short paragraphs. Congratulations.

I can guarantee you, a lot of people here in the Forum can see right thru that. And now, my condolences -- you just signed up for another tour of earth.

I would like to point out that usually there's at least one perspective from which EVERYONE is right about EVERYTHING.  However depending on your perspective, EVERYONE can also be WRONG about everything at exactly the same time. And everything in between. All combinations and variations in these perspectives create the realities and energy exchanges we call "LIFE". It's these arguments which are the driving force of life (and the destructive force at the same time.) It's up to us to enjoy (love) or dislike (hate) these arguments and their results. That is the essence of freewill - the choice of how to view the circumstances (right, wrong?) we've been handed. In that sense, we do truly create our own reality. As living beings we are in many ways a manifestation of the combination of all our arguments and a result of how we choose to handle the outcome.

The first person who agrees with me proves this point. Likewise, the first person who disagrees with me proves this point. So I am always right and wrong at the same time. Impossible.......? Possible........? Is an argument also an agreement at the same time?

Ultimately being right or wrong (on/off, up/down, in/out, 1/0, hot/cold, exists/does not exist, everything/nothing, or any of the other infinite ways you want to say it) is irrelevant, even though it's everything. The meaning of the word EVERYTHING (i.e. infinity) is key. So many arguments, so much time..............

That's what I love about reading this forum - lots of farout ideas that make sense, and don't make sense, all at the same time. I love it all. Even the parts I don't like.

I'm looking for love here.

A loving person, at times, is like a lifeguard.

You have to wait until the drowning person has used up all his energy before you jump in the water to save him.....

...... otherwise he will drag them both down.

I think you're still taking on water.

If you are in Las Vegas, you are in a sea of different energies, which may not be conducive to focusing, much less spiritual growth --- Las Vegas, spiritual? The two go together like the words Jumbo Shrimp. Same for Dallas where I live -- couldn't be a worse vibration in the country for personal growth.

Don't get caught up in the right-wrong trap; i.e, that "there is no right or wrong, everyting's relative"... New Age gibble. But it is better to be appropriate than right or wrong...
Consider that you can be right and lose.
Consider that you can be wrong and be effective.
Consider that you can be right and be ineffective...
so what's the deal?  Try paying attention to what your intention is -- it precedes right, wrong, or appropriate. And it is by that that you 'judge' yourself... i.e., "create your reality".

Cheers

RATM says it all.
give em hell.revolution

To paraphrase http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/ … Lyra-O.jpg:

Is there an echo in the room?

Explain.

Pokerboy wrote:

This is the Noble Realms Church...Pastor, Montalk.  Just like other churches...you have no room for someone who may not vibrate on the same levels as you guys(unless they are bowing and groveling at your feet out of desperation).   Where's the love?

The more love you give, the more love you get. I love you as much as you love me. Anything else would be one-sided. You do love me, right? You do love "Pastor Montalk" and the sycophants "groveling at his feet out of desperation", right? Because if you didn't you would be mighty hypocritical in asking love from the very people you openly love to hate. I'm all for love...both kind love and tough love, whatever is called for.

Watch out for creating a self-fulfilling prophecy, seeing what you want to see then acting in a manner that artificially provokes a response confirming the very thing you falsely assumed.

It happens to skeptics who stop in, act like pompous asses, and interpret the consequent reception as being the very ignorance and hostility they expect from superstitious kooks.

And it happens to people who out of threatened ego, emotional insecurity, and reinforcement from mutually skewed commiseration with other disaffected individuals either join or rejoin this forum solely to troll for openings to vent their unfounded dissatisfaction.

The ego is so easily hurt, so prone to hurting itself through imagined inequity that, unless restrained by love and understanding, the ego will project itself upon others and set out to destroy them just to end the self-inflicted pain. Don't fall for that trap.

There is no need to solicit attention, beg for love, grovel for acceptance. Just be thoughtful and considerate and let your actions demonstrate your sincerity. In my experience, those who talk most loudly and frequently about being incredibly loving, psychic, knowledgeable, wise, humble, etc... tend to be least demonstrative of those things, as though an excess in words could ever compensate for absence in being. So chill out and stop trying so hard. Let go your insecurity, discontent, preconceived biases. Simply be yourself and go with the flow.

Nothing but love baby!   

I'm not a skeptic(unless I'm "in character" and it's fitting for a life role I'm playing at the time.).  Nowhere near.  I just see things in the colors I need to see them in for me to get along in my world.  A very pOtato, potAto situation.

Who am I to dog you all out?  It's all about dial-a-reality baby! 

What's wrong with being kooky?

I haven't written anything just for the sake of trolling.   Also, I have never posted here before.  Classically speaking, I am not rejoining anything. 

Go with the flow?   I am going with the flow.  It's totally natural for me to challenge(be an arse)....sometimes just for the sake of challenging(being an arse).  I feel that challenge keeps us sharp, and our game airtight.  This is me.  I take pride in working on being as raw as possible(unless it business).  I prolly embarass myself daily as a result.   *shrugs*

As a courtesy to people more serious about life than I am, I try to remain sensitive most of the time....sometimes I get all ghetto girl and lose my cool.  Call me on it anytime.

I'm one of those fiery, ethnic people.   It's perfectly normal for us to be loud about ourselves.  I'm my biggest fan, if I weren't...I'd be "dead" by now.

Ego is an optional accessory for me(It's fun sometimes), however, it is no longer standard issue on the machine of Tony.

I think this is a "same shit, different day" scenario here in this forum (which is prolly GENERALLY true).   You think I'm a biased, insecure asshole...(which is prolly GENERALLY true).

You're right....but you're not seeing my correct color.   I'm biased......generally TOWARDS you guys and the concepts here.  NOT against.

I am an attention prostitute.  But I'm willing to give just as much attention back in return.  I don't leave anyone with blueballs....and to boot, I swallow.

We all make the mistake of getting caught up in the generalities of life.  We make the mistake of not stoppping to notice the beauty of color...the beauty of the illusion...so busy defining everything.

It's human nature to get caught up.  We're make believe machines!  It is the only way we seem to be happy.

What is the point of definition without color?

I'm not incredibly anything....but I'm normally all those things.

When I'm not playing make believe, I can be rather cold and clinical.  It's a useful state sometimes.

I love you....and everyone else in this group.  I know this because....well..... I'm MORE than willing to take the time out to become familiar with your colors...your personal illusion.

Convention is dead in my mind.  I only keep a residual program around just to get along in this world.

Let's have some fun!

Is there an echo in the room?

This is the Noble Realms Church...Pastor, Montalk.  Just like other churches...you have no room for someone who may not vibrate on the same levels as you guys(unless they are bowing and groveling at your feet out of desperation).   Where's the love?

The more love you give, the more love you get. I love you as much as you love me. Anything else would be one-sided. You do love me, right? You do love "Pastor Montalk" and the sycophants "groveling at his feet out of desperation", right? Because if you didn't you would be mighty hypocritical in asking love from the very people you openly love to hate. I'm all for love...both kind love and tough love, whatever is called for.

Watch out for creating a self-fulfilling prophecy, seeing what you want to see then acting in a manner that artificially provokes a response confirming the very thing you falsely assumed.

It happens to skeptics who stop in, act like pompous asses, and interpret the consequent reception as being the very ignorance and hostility they expect from superstitious kooks.

And it happens to people who out of threatened ego, emotional insecurity, and reinforcement from mutually skewed commiseration with other disaffected individuals either join or rejoin this forum solely to troll for openings to vent their unfounded dissatisfaction.

The ego is so easily hurt, so prone to hurting itself through imagined inequity that, unless restrained by love and understanding, the ego will project itself upon others and set out to destroy them just to end the self-inflicted pain. Don't fall for that trap.

There is no need to solicit attention, beg for love, grovel for acceptance. Just be thoughtful and considerate and let your actions demonstrate your sincerity. In my experience, those who talk most loudly and frequently about being incredibly loving, psychic, knowledgeable, wise, humble, etc... tend to be least demonstrative of those things, as though an excess in words could ever compensate for absence in being. So chill out and stop trying so hard. Let go your insecurity, discontent, preconceived biases. Simply be yourself and go with the flow.