Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone who was part of the original conversation going on in this thread would like to comment on Amitakh and her views now that some time has gone by.  I'm particularly interested in thr33tim3's thoughts about where he stands in regards to the Anunnaki rule and other information on the xeeatwelve site.  Does it still ring true to you?

Over the last couple of years and particularly over the last couple of months, I've amped up my research for the meaning of "my" life  and this forum seems like a great  community of intelligent, open-minded posters and I am happy to be participating.

Check the new article out here: http://www.xeeatwelve.com/articles/Prison_Break.html

I've only gotten about halfway through it yet, can't say she's putting out any revelatory new insights or anything, but still - I must say I find it strangely fascinating to entertain her ideas (although I don't buy them wholesale, of course).

....no one really knows exactly how things really are but I sure hope I'm right!;):):)

I hope you're right too. 

And yes, I do find this talk of an afterlife conspiracy most disturbing...where do these ideas come from? Who is qualified to be privy to this information and from what source? (it would have to be from outside and above any other sources) To me they originate in the darkness to add confusion in to the mix at this most crucial of times.

Well, when you think about it those sources are no more "qualified' than say, Matthew, or any material that makes claims about the afterlife, since ultimately, none of them can be "proven."  All of them rely on the reader either "resonating" with the material or not.  And what resonates for each of us is going to be kind of a subjective thing.   

It seems though that a lot of spiritual/new age people want everything to be happy and to feel good....forget any information that might "add confusion" to the mix....even if it has validity.  For me, I'll neutrally listen to both sides of the story, and if somebody has information that says "Hey, things may not be what we're told they are....let me tell you what I heard! (saw, know, experienced, etc.)"  then you better believe I'll be all ears!     I consider it the smart thing to do.  I'm not the sort of person who only wants to hear what's warm and fuzzy, simple and unconfusing.  But I kind of knew somebody would say that this sort of info. is "darkness," and was curious to see if that did indeed come up.  We're all entitled to our views, and I'm not criticizing yours, I'm just saying there may be more to the story is all, and that I don't agree with the idea that to consider another viewpoint would be akin to "darkness" and only be adding "confusion" into the works.   It's not dark or confusing so long as one remains neutral as they listen.   Information is information, nothing more.  Darkness and confusion ensue when one starts emotionally reacting and falling into despondency. 

And here's an idea......you feel that this information is to add confusion during these times.....what if it's the opposite?    Let's say that hypothetically speaking there is validity to the idea that souls are being trapped and lied to and mislead, herded back to the Earth plane to endlessly reincarnate, (again, hypothetically speaking here, because I don't necessarily know or believe that this is the case.....)   And assume that there is a way to break free of this....maybe it's exactly because it's "these times" that something wants us to finally learn this and wake up so we can get out of here.   !   Maybe the time has come to remember who we are and break free.  Now there's a thought.   There's more than one way to look at everything.....

Anyway, this thread has digressed....it was originally about Amitakh, then you asked about Matthew, which lead to this, so, maybe we should step off and let it get back to Amitakh.......

If I sound lost, like I can't committ myself to any one thing or belief, well, it's because I am!     I don't know what to think about anything anymore.  I can weed out the ultimate obvious hooey from the higher quality material, but even then, who's to say what's the real deal.   What if the truth about reality is so unbelievable that it would cause us to mentally implode if we knew, and all these sources are all disinfo....!!

And herein lies the problem with all this endless discussion...far from feeling centred and happy in our beliefs, we find ourselves confused and still in darkness...it has to be what resonates for me (if that what feeling warm and fluffy is!) as what other yardstick can we judge by? Are we not told time and time again from multiple sources that we should look within for the answers? I'm no psychic or clairvoyant but I have to use some means to make a judgement and if it feels right, good and just to me that's good enough
And yes, I do find this talk of an afterlife conspiracy most disturbing...where do these ideas come from? Who is qualified to be privy to this information and from what source? (it would have to be from outside and above any other sources) To me they originate in the darkness to add confusion in to the mix at this most crucial of times. Matthew's description of the Heavenly realms do not in any way paint a picture of endless days of nothingness, sitting upon a cloud, playing the harp and waiting for the next chance at incarnation. There is definite purpose to one's existence in Heaven, more so than here on Earth with constant interaction with other civilisations, life forms and other dimensional entities and why not?
What is the alternative offered?...a false afterlife with no hope of redemption and no way out? Where is God? Where is Hope in this scenario? Really stuck in this endlessly reincarnating hell where even taking one's own life would be pointless...
I don't buy it...it is utterly negative and takes away all sense of hope much like AS's view on an entirely negative universe...they have won, we are trapped and there's no point in doing anything...no, I think not!
Whatever happened to faith?...:):):)

Regarding predicitons, Matthew's view is to not trust specific dates for events to pass...he sees these as almost always negatively influenced and rarely even vaguely true (think of all the end time predictions that have failed to pass in the last 20 years) and yet they always fulfill their main intention to instill fear and indescision in to certain sections of the population.
Some may see this as a cop out but Matthew states that the continuum of posibilities is in a state of constant flux (even more so at this crucial time) and is therefore difficult to pin down when it comes to specific events (his dialogue on the implementation of NESARA being a good case in point).

That's interesting, because Goro Adachi has become quite adept at nailing what events are going to happen on what days.  He's gotten so good that he can not only pinpoint a week when a specific event will occur, but sometimes within a two - or even one - day range.   And he's not psychic, he just claims to have figured out the way the patterns that make up "the grid" of reality work, which enables him to pinpoint months in advance when stuff will transpire.  Makes you wonder.    His most recent "prediction" (again, based on figuring out patterns in the chaos and decoding the symbology within the events that surround us) was to predict Donald Rumsfeld stepping down immediately after mid-term elections.  And it happened.  Interesting.  I believe in the idea of probable timelines and an open future - things seem variable - but sometimes I do wonder.  I think it is possible to predict thing, and so for me personally, it's one of the criteria I keep in mind when reading the material of someone claiming to be channeling a higher realm entity that's supposed to be able to have access to that sort of information.   It's like, Come on...throw me a prediction.      Show me what you're made of!  haha

I know, and it's all well and good, but again, who can prove it, you know?  That's the problem with after-life discussion.  Sylvia Browne also has quite a lot to say about the workings of the afterlife, and it sounds fantastic on paper when I read it.  But I'll throw a wrench in the works by mentioning the totally fascinating discussion that occurred here on NR not too long ago where we were all pondering the trickery and deception going on in the afterlife.....how souls are being tricked and trapped in these after life realms, thinking they're in some blissed out heaven when in fact, they're actually being herded by higher beings into these false heavens so they can be fed upon.   !!!   It was such a fascinating discussion, and as a direct result of it I now also keep that in mind as a criteria for trying to tell who's who and what's what.   Is the channeling source just spouting feel-good anecdotes about the afterlife that make you feel warm and fuzzy?  Or is it more realistic and balanced?  Because multiple people are confirming that there is a lot of confusion and deception happening in the afterlife..things aren't what we're told they are.   
 

A thought that passed through my mind as I read that is, well, that's fine, but why is it that people have a need for this sort of thing?  It's kind of obvious I guess....we're uneasy, we want answers, we want somebody to tell us that we have nothing to worry about, and everything is going to be okay.  And that's what this material provides.  Supposed answers, and a security blanket of comfort.  It "resonates" because it mirrors beliefs we agree with while making us feel good. 

If I sound lost, like I can't committ myself to any one thing or belief, well, it's because I am!     I don't know what to think about anything anymore.  I can weed out the ultimate obvious hooey from the higher quality material, but even then, who's to say what's the real deal.   What if the truth about reality is so unbelievable that it would cause us to mentally implode if we knew, and all these sources are all disinfo....!

Has anyone read any of the Messages from Matthew books mentioned earlier in this thread? For various reasons I have become a firm believer in his teachings and would highly recommend  them. They are not overly positive to the extent that they would deny any upheaval in the coming years, but they assure that the planet wide destruction being promoted by some sources is pure fear-mongering and will not now be necessary for ascendence to occur.
The crucial difference between this and other chanelled sources is that that Matthew maintains that some 60 or so years ago the PLANET EARTH HERSELF rather than those that inhabit her requested assistance from our benevolent space brothers to bring about HER freewill choice to ascend in to the higher dimensions. Seeing as we live on the Earth we still do have the freewill choice ourselves to ascend with her or assign ourself to a placement more in keeping with our lower vibration. Any thoughts?...

Here's a link at educate-yourself.org regarding the Messages From Matthew, for anybody who's curious as to what this is all about:

http://educate-yourself.org/mw/index.shtml

As far as my thoughts are concerned, when trying to figure out whether the Matthew material is valid, I had these questions go through my mind:

- Has the material ever made any predictions that have come to pass?  The more specific and detailed (versus vague generalizations like "there will be conflict in the middle east...") the better.

- Does the material say something fresh and innovative?  Or is it technically drawing upon known material?   Meaning....the channeler (in this case, Matthew's mom) could have subconsciously been pulling from books, articles and websites she's read.

Both questions are important to consider, but the second one even more so.   What makes the Matthew material so intriguing is the conspiracy angle of it all.....it's not purely new age love 'n light fluff, which is what I admittedly was expecting when I first skeptically took a look at one of the books.  I found myself getting drawn in to the book,  surprisingly, because his message echoes what a lot of us have learned in the conspiracy literature.   It seemed pretty on the ball.

But then that got me thinking....if we all have access to this conspiracy info., well then, so does Suzanne, Matthew's mom.  So yeah, I mean, is the material truly coming from her dead son in another realm, telling us true and factual information, or is it coming from her own personal research and knowledge?   So hard to know.   And that's when item #1 on the list becomes important..........what about the predictions?  Has the Matthew material ever predicted detailed stuff that came to pass?   That would be interesting to find out.  But even then, it doesn't prove anything about the source....I mean, hell, the Mothman doled out predictions that came true, but does that make the Mothman honest and positive?    haha   And then as far as the positive uplifting spiritual message of it all, is that legit, or is it just feel-good platitudes?   So yeah, it's hard to know what's what when it comes to channeling.........

AS's rescue mission is just a spin of the old new age meme, being rescued by our benevolent "space brothers" aquarian conspiracy and is a comforting mental prop at best but a loss of freewill and sovereignty at worst.

AS's rescue mission is a very black or white naive religion IMO.

Joy i am particularly interested in talking to you. Also... are you aware of who paul of tarsus was, as a great deciever and agent of darkness? why would you quote him in this discussion?

words to remember -

rejoice my friends !! :D:D

try your best to stay pure, keep your willpower strong and aligned with the light. No matter what happens to this physical hell, we are going home! STAY STRONG!

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This is a reccomendation for prayer

Try to initially get into a meditative state (you may become, with more practice, more comfortable being in divine connection in a less meditative state, though i basically always "let go" when i connect), releasing your anxieties and feeling relatively tranquil. If your heart is not pure you must remember to RELEASE your physical and material concerns and worries and remember, HUMILITY, SELFLESSNESS, and DEDICATION. Try to initially feel the unconditional love, it helps in connecting. If you are having trouble with the initial connection, breathe golden beautiful light into your heart center until you feel well (elaborated on xeeatwelve in golden light meditation). Focus on your heart and speak through your heart FEELING what you say sincerely in your heart. You will know and feel when you do this correctly, being in connection with the divine. Never forget to be thankful and let the creator, divine mother, and spirit and any other true beings you feel like thanking know how much you love and appreciate her/it/etc. (though i doubt connected true beings would forget).

Here are two basic prayers you should always feel in your heart, both from the jesus, the spiritual warrior, writing.

Reading and feeling in your heart  the 99 sayings of jesus (in a similar fashion, feeling in your heart, as written above) also helps me much when i am feeling down and my heart is blocked (as well as the golden light meditation), remember the divine is ALWAYS with you! Never forget you can always connect to the divine if you sincerely want to.  All True beings be strong please. My love is with you.

  The Truth and the Divine will indeed set us free, but we are ultimately responsible to save ourselves.  We can be our own worst enemies in this realm of illusion.  I have printed out all of “Jesus the Spiritual Warrior”  and I refer to it often, especially all the sayings there. 

  There has been much discussion and attacks of the Messages at God Like Productions.  If you do a search there on Amitakh Stanford it should bring up quite a number of threads.  You will see that I have posted there among others. 

  I think we all feel a bit uncomfortable with the viability issue, because we feel dirty, polluted, but if we search within and meditate (yes, meditation is very much recommended) If we surrender completely and re-affirm our allegiance daily and ask for help, then help will be given and the understanding and peace from within will slowly come. It is for us to do the work of purifying and staying ever alert to protect ourselves as well as to benefit the Rescue of ourselves and others.  The viability of our friends and family is up to them and not for us to judge or to seek to “save them” .  Their acceptance or lack of acceptance of the Message doesn’t tell us one way or the other if they are among those going Home.  So focus on the Divine for your personal guidance, if you are awakening at this time it is for a reason.  We are not here to convert anyone. 

   Why would you feel that you can’t enjoy your gardening and children at this time?  That is not something that needs be put on hold for some future time.  Gardening can be a fine way of meditating and communicating with your Higher Self and with the Divine.  Those of the Light are not just sitting around twiddling our thumbs and waiting to be rescued.  Obviously you were just jesting when you suggested such a thing. 

I share the following words of support that came from a THT

  Awakening is an ongoing process and it takes time to work through blocks, get out of traps, and work towards purity in thought word and deed to get to the point where we begin to feel somewhat secure with our viability.  The psychic attacks though, in all of their manifestations are always at the ready to impinge on us at every opportunity, to cast doubt and feelings of unworthiness. Doubts still enter my mind about being viable, but I shake them off as quickly as I can, because I know that the Divine Mother will never turn away a being that sincerely wants to and makes an honest effort to embrace the Light. 

Prayer is a wonderful way to feel more connected and we know that our Creator always hears us and we just have to remember to ask for help and know that we can put our faith in Him/Her.

     I wish you much Love and Peace of the Divine Mother on your journey Home,
      Joy