An excerpt from this article:

[b] "Any geologist will tell you, well, most geologists will tell you that OIL IS CREATED BY THE MAGMA OF THE EARTH. The oil wells in Pennsylvania that were pumped out dry at the turn of the century and capped are now filled with oil again...."

This a very scary thought.  We are taking oil (I will refer to oil as mass from here on) out of the ground then dump it in the atmosphere (gases) which means not returning it to the ground.   Yet, the oil in the ground is replaced with new oil.   The mass in the ground is finite (or at least that is what we learned in school) so at one time or another oil will stop flowing from underground and the planet will cool down due to the loss of magma in absolut terms.  This means that the density of the planet (not including the atmosphere) is decreasing.  Now how significant this decrease in mass is I have not quantified.  I also do not know how many thousand of years will be required for the loss of mass to be signicant assuming we continue to use oil as the main source of energy.  But, I can say that the results will be absolutely catastrophic (earthquakes, weather anomalies, etc...).

http://www.unknowncountry.com/

AAARGH! No can read - This is what it says:

Barbara Hand Clow
August 13, 2005

08/18/05: PROGRAMMING NOW BACK ONLINE. The author of Catastrophobia updates us on what she believes is the actual state of oil reserves, based on her research and beliefs, and suggests what she thinks people who are involved in spiritual search can do to directly affect the coming changes.

interesting i thought, though i dont know much more on this whole procedure... maybe someone else knows what im talking about

As for pollution from oil use, thats a far more urgent problem. You Americans will have to drive smaller cars.

But we also have discovered another conspiracy here:

The forced artifical behaviour of inefficient energy consumption in many ways:

- Living-working traffic
- Kerosine untaxed (Aeroplane traffic)
- Transportation of cattle
- Artificial container traffic for tax/customs reasons
- Inefficient building and water usage
- Traffic planning idiocracies
- Heating up almost empty big buildings.
- The promoting of driving in cars instead of clean save public transportations
- and above all: the forced usage of inefficient heavy materials and organization-rules in industry, buildings and production processes by law and habits.

The big conspiracy with energy is:

Keep People Busy, Busy and Busy, so they have less TIME to THINK CLEARLY  for themselves, while consuming more and more "old" energy resources.

Then people become more stressed and will produce more negative energies which STSs and OPs can tap from.

This makes sense. Conditioning consciousness to patterns of behavior and thinking. Nothing more. In that case a world energy shortage would lead to more fear and panic and the host of other negative, reactionary emotions that lead one to believing in a finite universe. Keep 'em in 3D if you can! Then humans can't claim their own personal power and draw in. The negative manifestation implodes on itself, drawing in destruction from outer space. Meteor shower, among other things, anyone? But on a positive, many are shocked to awaken, draw on expanded knowledge of infinite resources, and move on to a new earth (maybe)

If you do it correctly, you can pique people's interest rather than turn them off.

This has the potential for being fine tuned into such a useful 'social art'. I've thought of that before, too and would suggest that anyone having the above mentioned problems would take this into consideration.

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And also I read that oil is actually the 'life blood' of the planet. And that seemed somehow accurate to me. So, Lyra, would this fit with your findings of it not being a fossil fuel? I thought it might.

Well, my findings originallly were based on good old fashioned doubt.  A case of, "WHAT??  That doesn't sound right...."   As a kid, whenever I'd hear that "Oil comes from dinosaurs!" I just wouldn't / couldn't believe it.   It was something they threw at us, but I wouldn't let it stick to me. "Umm....no.  I don't think so."   And I never parroted it either.   My conclusion was it doesn't come from "dinosaurs", but I don't know where it does come from, so, I'm just not going to say (or parrot) anything on the matter.  It will just have to be a mystery on the backburner.   

Then articles began surfacing over the past couple of years that challenged the status quo on oil, and even though I don't know if they're any more correct on the matter, it's just a relief to finally see people contradicting what we've all been taught.  So for that reason, I've been posting them.  We need to see an alternate viewpoint for consideration.

Oil as the life blood of the planet....I don't know, but that's an interesting idea.  In one of the articles I read, they were saying oil originates from almost near the earth's core.   So I suppose that would fit in a way. 

I don't know.....I just think it's cool to read up on this stuff, get the ideas memorized in our heads, and this way the next time we encounter somebody parroting the same old same old about oil and gas, believing hook line and sinker what we've all been taught, we can tell them what we know.  Come back at them with something they weren't expecting.  If you do it correctly, you can pique people's interest rather than turn them off.   I know a lot of people here at NR have had bad experiences with the general population when they spout an alternative idea, but it's probably because they're using the wrong approach.   Sound sane, confident, charismatic and slightly amused and watch the response you'll get instead.   

Oil is largely responsible for the ozone depletion though, and thus if we keep on using it as much as we do now, we'll soon all be fried. Or is this another lie?

I just wanted to add that I read somewhere that it's actually the Jumbo Jet aircraft which is largely (moreso than automobiles) responsible for the ozone problem, but then again I would also imagine that HAARP would have a lot to do with it as well.

And also I read that oil is actually the 'life blood' of the planet. And that seemed somehow accurate to me. So, Lyra, would this fit with your findings of it not being a fossil fuel? I thought it might.

Don't tell Goro about it though.    Although really, I'm not still bitter that he called me mentally disturbed for even reading and considering such possibilities.   haha  j/k 

Anyway, it's lengthy like I said, but might be worth the read for anybody who's interested in this topic.  It goes through, piece by piece, what the "evidence" has been so far in favor of biological, non-renewable origins of oil and either debunks or contradicts them, based on scientific evidence. 

While it's good to be informed and to not be duped by lies, in the end I have to admit, I do question what good it's going to do.   Can anything even be changed???  Does passing along information which can lead to knowledge even make a dent in what TPTB are doing to the population with their manipulated oil / gas hikes?   I don't know.  But I'm going to do it anyway.  Who knows what can come of something.

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/05/317075.shtml

Assuming that:

1) Oil doesn't come from where they are telling us, and there is far more oil than they are telling us,

2) Free energy inventions have been brutally suppressed

then this implies one thing: that the energy starvation of the world is deliberate and strategic. Formerly, the idea was that free energy devices were suppressed because they would bring down the oil cartels. But if oil itself is being restricted despite the oil cartels being able to make more money in the long run if it flowed freely, then there is something beyond their own vested interests for profit keeping this build up to an energy crunch going.

What would deliberate energy starvation lead to...

Transportation remarks:

In the case of oil - gasoline, there are some environment issues in dense populated countries.
Also: issues on traffic and preventing full highways.

These are positive aspects of deliberate energy starvation, I know.

I don't think so.

Yes, but we got wind mills here, idiotic devices ! damaging the sight and landscape. And solar cells also are a not so intelligent solution.

Yes, right.

But we also have discovered another conspiracy here:

The forced artifical behaviour of inefficient energy consumption in many ways:

- Living-working traffic
- Kerosine untaxed (Aeroplane traffic)
- Transportation of cattle
- Artificial container traffic for tax/customs reasons
- Inefficient building and water usage
- Traffic planning idiocracies
- Heating up almost empty big buildings.
- The promoting of driving in cars instead of clean save public transportations
- and above all: the forced usage of inefficient heavy materials and organization-rules in industry, buildings and production processes by law and habits.

The big conspiracy with energy is:

Keep People Busy, Busy and Busy, so they have less TIME to THINK CLEARLY  for themselves, while consuming more and more "old" energy resources.

Then people become more stressed and will produce more negative energies which STSs and OPs can tap from.

1) Oil doesn't come from where they are telling us, and there is far more oil than they are telling us,

2) Free energy inventions have been brutally suppressed

then this implies one thing: that the energy starvation of the world is deliberate and strategic. Formerly, the idea was that free energy devices were suppressed because they would bring down the oil cartels. But if oil itself is being restricted despite the oil cartels being able to make more money in the long run if it flowed freely, then there is something beyond their own vested interests for profit keeping this build up to an energy crunch going.

What would deliberate energy starvation lead to... collapsing of the world economy? WWIII? Interesting that China has been stockpiling oil and military supplies in anticipation of an eventual war against America.

Well, one good thing that will come out of this is increased demand for alternative energy technology. Maybe things will get chaotic/desperate enough that the suppression of free energy devices crumbles.

There are some threads on the free energy section of this forum regarding possibilities. Practical ideas: biodiesel, solar energy, LED lighting, etc... or more exotic things like free energy devices if one can build them without getting killed.