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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Guess it had to come sooner or later.&nbsp; Though I think it&#039;s still a bit too early before legislation like that gets passed...</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Senator Bill Frisk&#039;s bill to label &quot;conspiracy theorists&quot; or political paranoia as a mental illness. The same nice guy who&nbsp; wants the pharmaceutical companies to be protected from prosecution over vaccine damage.<br /><a href="http://www.rense.com/general61/opp.htm">http://www.rense.com/general61/opp.htm</a></p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I was listening to the Mj Morning show about a week ago on the radio. Well the subject of RFID tags was brought up. One of the guys mentions how this is a pre-text for a 1984 scenario; Mj and the rest of the people immediately begin criticizing this guy. Began saying things like &quot;DO YOU even know who wrote 1984!? Oh you don&#039;t well LOL at YOU&quot;</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lyra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>!&nbsp; &nbsp;Exciting times we&#039;re living in............aren&#039;t you glad you have front row seats!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Right on ... that&#039;s the way to look at it, I think.&nbsp; It&#039;s that or get seriously depressed.&nbsp; &nbsp;So it&#039;s better to view it as just a big challenge.&nbsp; I think Dolores Cannon&#039;s subject made a relevant point when they said souls living on Earth today can work off ten times as much karma as compared to living during any previous time in history.</p><p>It&#039;s often occured to me that none of these draconian laws could be enforced if the common people organized against them, and executed targeted acts of civil disobedience en mass.&nbsp; &nbsp; Imagine, for example, that every person in Austria or Germany who believed strongly in free speech were to simultaneously march on the government headquarters carrying signs denying the holocaust, and refuse to leave <em>until and unless</em> they were arrested -- and refuse to be released -- intentionally stay locked up, refusing any bails or similar leniencies until the laws were changed.&nbsp; &nbsp;Clog the jails and prisons on principle.&nbsp; &nbsp; </p><p>The same thing could be done in any country to shut down the drug wars, if enough people had enough of it and organized.&nbsp; &nbsp; Get ten thousand people in front of a police station smoking pot.&nbsp; I bet all that would really be necessary to pull this sort of thing off would be to organize things well ahead of time with a good website and some publicity, pick a date for the action and get the word out by all available means.&nbsp; &nbsp;I bet if it something like this was well-planned and the ball had been started rolling, even some celebrities (Woody Harrelson?) would jump on board in a heartbeat to help.&nbsp; Just a thought ...</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-02-22T05:02:01Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>On the theme of thoughtcrimes:</p><p>A TV news item ran in Salt Lake City yesterday about a woman sex offender, 31 years old, who was convicted of having sex with a minor (a 15-year-old boy) two years ago.</p><p>Somehow somebody discovered that this sex offender has a myspace.com blog and called up the officials about it.&nbsp; The prosecutor from her case is pushing the judge to stop the woman from having access to an internet blog.</p><p>The blog was checked out and she was NOT in communication with minors or using it to pick up young boys, and yet a slew of people are outraged about it and there was talk (in the news story) of passing a law to cut off sex offenders internet privileges.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-02-22T01:33:23Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>That Henry Rollins bit is VERY interesting.&nbsp; &nbsp;They actually had the nerve to tell him, a grown adult, NOT to read that book.&nbsp; !&nbsp; &nbsp;It&#039;s worth clicking on his link to read about it.</p><p>It seems that 2006 will be the year they try to push the agenda further, locking down with thought crime laws and censorship.&nbsp; I think they actually believe that they can pull off &quot;1984.&quot;&nbsp; Imagine that.&nbsp; !&nbsp; &nbsp;It&#039;s not going to work.&nbsp; Not with people like Henry Rollins.&nbsp; They picked the wrong guy to mess with there.&nbsp; Not only did he tell them to f*ck off, but he posted their letter on his website, which is read by who knows how many people, and let the entire world know about it.&nbsp; &nbsp;Very loudly. </p><p>What that will hopefully do is motivate his fanbase to do the exact same thing when and if they&#039;re ever faced with a similar situation.</p><p>It&#039;s like, people are in place right now to rebel.&nbsp; Probably a few celebs too.&nbsp; Everything they&#039;ve been doing their whole lives was so they could be here now.&nbsp; Get into position, so that when the time comes, they will be in a position of influence, with the fame level that will allow their voice to be heard.&nbsp; Then strike back, and make everybody else aware.</p><p>!&nbsp; &nbsp;Exciting times we&#039;re living in............aren&#039;t you glad you have front row seats!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-02-22T00:40:50Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Good for Henry. There&#039;s something about that guy that makes it hard not to like him.</p><p>I was appalled that this historian was actually served with jail time. I understand that countries like Austria feel they must be extremely vigilant when it comes to matters pertaining to the Holocaust, but to jail someone because of his ideas is insane. Whether I agree with this fellow is irrelevant. It&#039;s totally wrong to punish him for his thoughts. He may be a racist as many have accused, I really don&#039;t know, but he still has the right to question whatever he chooses, including the Holocaust.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-02-22T00:37:03Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lyra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>&quot;V For Vendetta&quot; is coming out next month, a movie based in the UK, about rising up against a tyranical fascist government.&nbsp; <strong>&quot;People should not be afraid of their governments...governments should be afraid of their people.&quot;</strong>&nbsp; Interesting timing of it all, considering it was originally supposed to come out last November, but was bumped back four months.&nbsp; &nbsp;Everything happens exactly when it&#039;s supposed to happen I guess....</p></blockquote></div><p>Under this new law; is it now illegal to show &quot;V For Vendetta&quot; in the UK?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-02-22T00:18:39Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Props go out to Mech for digging this bad boy up:</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/gallery/henry_rollins170505/henry_rollins/rollins_quad.jpg" alt="http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/gallery/henry_rollins170505/henry_rollins/rollins_quad.jpg" /></span><br />Latest Airline Terror Threat: People Who Read Books<br />Rocker Rollins reported for thought crime</p><p>Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | February 17 2006</p><p>The latest example of airline security gone insane is provided by rock star and stand-up comedian Henry Rollins, who was recently reported to the Australian government for reading a book on an aeroplane.</p><p>The Australian Daily Telegraph reports,</p><p>&quot;US rocker and writer Henry Rollins was reported to the National Security hotline during his recent Australian tour because of a book he was reading on flight to Brisbane.&quot;</p><p>&quot;A furious Rollins was informed he was &quot;nominated as a possible threat&quot; for reading Jihad: The Rise Of Militant Islam In Central Asia.&quot;</p><p>&quot;The incident happened on a flight from Auckland on the recent Big Day Out tour.&quot;</p><p>Rollins (pictured above) then received a letter from the Australian government warning him not to read such books in future. His response was to post the letter on his website and tell the Australian government to &quot;go f***k themselves.&quot;</p><p>Henry&#039;s site:</p><p><a href="http://21361.com/">http://21361.com/</a></p><p>Some of henry&#039;s work:</p><p><a href="http://21361.com/site_2004/watch_listen.html">http://21361.com/site_2004/watch_listen.html</a></p><p><a href="http://21361.com/site_2004/main_dispatches.html">http://21361.com/site_2004/main_dispatches.html</a></p><p>DISPATCHES</p><p>#30. 01-30-06 Melbourne Australia: 2139 hrs. I just got a letter from a nice woman who told me the man I sat next to on the flight from Auckland to Goldcoast Australia reported me to the Australian Government because of the book I was reading.</p><p>“I hope this finds you before you leave Australia as I think its something that won’t surprise you but might give you a smile when you are sitting in a hotel room. I work in one of those Government areas that deals with anti terrorism matters. A fine service is provided but unfortunately we get to read a lot of things submitted by lunatics. The Australian Government set up the National Security Hotline to report terrorists.<br />The person who sat next to you on the flight from New Zealand does not agree with your politics or choice of reading and so nominated you as a possible threat. As they were too cowardly or stupid to leave their details I can’t call them to discuss their idiocy with them.” </p><p>Interesting that he and I exchanged nothing but polite hellos. I was reading Ahmed Rashid’s book Jihad: The Rise Of Militant Islam In Central Asia. He’s a correspondent for the Wall Street Journal and the book is on the Yale University Press. Didn’t Bush drink beer at Yale? Didn’t he not seem to learn much at Yale?<br />Of course I wrote the nice lady back.</p><p>“I was reading a book called Jihad by Ahmed Rashid which is a history of Central Asia. I didn&#039;t speak to the man next to me past how do you do. I think Ahmed Rashid is published by Yale University Press. Bush&#039;s alma mater. Please tell your government and everyone in your office to go f*ck themselves. Tell them twice. If your boss is looking for something to do, you can tell him I suggest he go f*ck himself. Baghdad&#039;s safer than my hometown and your PM is a sissy. You have a nice night.” </p><p>I really don’t take kindly to that kind of shit. I like it though. Love it. Confrontation. Tension. Adversarial relationships. More please. It’s the only time it gets real.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lyra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Sounds like it&#039;s time to leave the UK.&nbsp; (and the EU in general.)</p><p>I know that people like Alex Jones and others like to complain about how much of a &quot;police state&quot; America has become, but maybe he, and others, need a good basis of comparison.&nbsp; And the UK would be it.&nbsp; &nbsp;I&#039;m not saying we don&#039;t have our issues here................but we still have an open and free internet here, unlike China, and we&#039;re still free to openly question pretty much anything we want.&nbsp; If we want to stand up and say the holocaust never happened, or question some aspect of it, we can.&nbsp; At best, people will laugh at you.&nbsp; But you won&#039;t go to jail.&nbsp; &nbsp;Ernst Zundel in Canada can&#039;t say the same.&nbsp; Or anybody in the UK/EU.&nbsp; !</p><p>&quot;V For Vendetta&quot; is coming out next month, a movie based in the UK, about rising up against a tyranical fascist government.&nbsp; <strong>&quot;People should not be afraid of their governments...governments should be afraid of their people.&quot;</strong>&nbsp; Interesting timing of it all, considering it was originally supposed to come out last November, but was bumped back four months.&nbsp; &nbsp;Everything happens exactly when it&#039;s supposed to happen I guess....</p></blockquote></div><p>Well were still free to deny the Holocaust in the UK at the moment <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> but as they want&nbsp; a harmony of EU laws/currency etc&nbsp; who knows in the future. David Irving was arrested because he gave his speech in Austria and perhaps foolishly returned there and i think generally these laws passed in the name of terror and hate crimes are a worldwide agenda.</p><p>The timing i think fits the plan, first the anti muslim cartoons, then the apparant hypocracy which makes free speech about the holocaust illegal but free speech to insult muslims ok. Divide and conquor and confuse. new laws passed limiting free speech, hate and thought crimes bingo.<br />Scare the people silly with bird flu as a deflection/dissasociation, dont have the mind to question id cards and line up for the anti bird flu jabs.</p><p>I would leave the UK tomorrow if i could to a place free of pollution, chemtrails and junk food but as i have a family its not that easy.<br />My Grandad who fought in WW2 would&nbsp; say &quot;so the Nazis won after all then&quot;</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-02-21T19:13:36Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like it&#039;s time to leave the UK.&nbsp; (and the EU in general.)</p><p>I know that people like Alex Jones and others like to complain about how much of a &quot;police state&quot; America has become, but maybe he, and others, need a good basis of comparison.&nbsp; And the UK would be it.&nbsp; &nbsp;I&#039;m not saying we don&#039;t have our issues here................but we still have an open and free internet here, unlike China, and we&#039;re still free to openly question pretty much anything we want.&nbsp; If we want to stand up and say the holocaust never happened, or question some aspect of it, we can.&nbsp; At best, people will laugh at you.&nbsp; But you won&#039;t go to jail.&nbsp; &nbsp;Ernst Zundel in Canada can&#039;t say the same.&nbsp; Or anybody in the UK/EU.&nbsp; !</p><p>&quot;V For Vendetta&quot; is coming out next month, a movie based in the UK, about rising up against a tyranical fascist government.&nbsp; <strong>&quot;People should not be afraid of their governments...governments should be afraid of their people.&quot;</strong>&nbsp; Interesting timing of it all, considering it was originally supposed to come out last November, but was bumped back four months.&nbsp; &nbsp;Everything happens exactly when it&#039;s supposed to happen I guess....</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-02-21T17:56:36Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Its illegal to openly question the truth about the Holocaust in Austria, Germany, France and many other European countries.<br />David Irving was yesterday jailed for 3 years for doing so 17 years ago.<br /><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4733820.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4733820.stm</a></p><p>While the UK have just bought in laws making it offence to &quot;glorify&quot; terrorism.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Iain Macwhirter on freedom of speech and the new law against glorifying terrorism</p> <br /><p>MENACHEM Begin was a magnificent defender of Israel whose spirit lives on in the settlement movement in Gaza. The heroic Palestinians have a just cause for their intifada on the West Bank. The courageous cadres of Chechnya have no alternative but to fight. Down with Robert Mugabe.</p><p>The Easter Rising in Dublin is a beacon for Irish liberation from direct rule. Nelson Mandela was a glorious man whose example should be emulated by freedom fighters across the world. Hurrah for the Peshmerga guerrillas and their battle for freedom in Kurdistan!</p><p>OK, I’ll come quietly. For I have just broken seven times the new law against glorifying terrorism. Each of these statements are actionable under laws passed by Westminster last week because they glorify contemporary terrorism. They indirectly advocate violent action against presently elected governments.</p><p>For example, the Israeli terrorist-turned-premier, Begin, may be long dead, but linking his Irgun guerrilla activities in the 1940s to Israeli settlers indirectly advocates the use of violence against the elected Palestinian authorities</p><p>Similarly, applauding the intifada could be interpreted as advocating violence against the Israeli government. The Kurds may be “on our sideÃ¯Â¿Â½&nbsp; in Iraq, but they also fight for independence against Turkey.</p><p>And it goes on. Such is the absurdity of the new laws that it may be impossible for Madonna to use the iconography of Che Guevara in her pop videos. Jenny Tonge, who was sacked from the Liberal Democrats for expressing support for the Palestinians, could find herself in jail</p></blockquote></div><p><a href="http://www.sundayherald.com/54216">http://www.sundayherald.com/54216</a></p><p>What next?, speaking out about Government and TPTB agendas, the harm of vaccinations etc will all become illegal? This is the thin end of the wedge folks as they kick things up a gear in readiness for the NWO facist thought crime police state, phony bird flu, population control and all that jazz.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-02-21T17:39:43Z</updated>
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