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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>visavis wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>There is a great discussion on this thread, worth checking out again.&nbsp; I personally do not have the belief that all anger is the merely ego getting slighted; and therefore unbeneficial.</p><p>Doc Mercola just posted this video which has quite an inspiring moment as documented in the animal kingdom:</p><p>&quot;You CAN Make a Difference!!&quot;<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJaq7syc7ng">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJaq7syc7ng</a></p><p>cheers <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>----------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p>That was cool.&nbsp; Those lions must have got a little confused at being attacked by their food source.&nbsp; I have a problem with anger being glorified because it is something that I am personally trying to cope with.&nbsp; I don&#039;t like it when people get angry with me in any form, whether it is direct, or some kind of pc garbage that I have to contemplate on later, in order to realize the person was expressing anger.&nbsp; What I have been trying out for size, is when I feel anger, not to express it in the form of anger, but express it after I have transformed it into something that tastes more like justice.&nbsp; I define justice as an equitable outcome for all parties involved.&nbsp; I might even go as far as defining love as justice for all without anger, hatred, aggression, vengence being necessary to come about to anyone.&nbsp; Oh! Only the first sentence was a responce to you visavis, the rest was to the thread topic and what was discussed.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 01:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>There is a great discussion on this thread, worth checking out again.&nbsp; I personally do not have the belief that all anger is the merely ego getting slighted; and therefore unbeneficial.</p><p>Doc Mercola just posted this video which has quite an inspiring moment as documented in the animal kingdom:</p><p>&quot;You CAN Make a Difference!!&quot;<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJaq7syc7ng">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJaq7syc7ng</a></p><p>cheers <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Our focus needs to be on creating the reality we want rather than trying to fight and parry the shadow side. This does not mean turning a total blind eye to what might be going on, but it does mean not investing our imagination and our focused thought intent power on negative scenarios.<br />On some level we have to say no. One way the shadow agenda works is by getting people to run these programs mentally, any imagined bad idea that can be cooked up. Its a very dangerous thing to run negative ideas thru ones mind. When confronted with such things the best advice I have is to deprogram it by the most creative means you can think of within your mindspace. Create another outcome entirely. Alot of negative things cannot exist until they reach critical mass withint human minds. Constantly pouring thru pages of negative information is not a good idea and is actually part of the subterfuge to get people thinking along the wrong lines.<br />This means alot of people thinking about the wrong things. We have a right to change the negative core structures of our reality. It begins with the self and your immediate surroundings, and then carries over to those of like mind. What I am seeking to convey goes way beyond language.<br />Its actually more a feeling. There may be turbulence nearby but you&#039;ll always be in a safe space.<br />People that don&#039;t want to wake up are not going to. They may end up on a separate timeline.<br />There are many possibilities.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>tenetnosce wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Curious how it appears that in response to my comments about knowing what is really going on in the world, people assumed that I was referring to mainstream news.</p></blockquote></div><p>Seeing how I referred to &quot;whats going on in the world&quot; as &quot;mainstream news&quot; I misinterpreted your meaning.</p><p>But with your post below I understand what you mean and I will answer these fun questions, as I have been thinking along these lines myself.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>tenetnosce wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I am also talking about having an awareness of what is going on in the immediate world around you.&nbsp; How people in your everyday life are behaving.&nbsp; What are they talking about?&nbsp; What is on their minds?&nbsp; Is there a pattern to it?&nbsp; Is it cyclical?&nbsp; Does it coincide with moon cycles or other cosmic influences?&nbsp; How does it compare to your internal state?&nbsp; How does it fit into the larger pattern of global events?</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, in the summer of 2005 I moved into a off-campus housing, where I am currently renting a room.&nbsp; Intrestingly enough the lady who owns the house has been &quot;in the spiritual game&quot; for over 20 years and has books upon books and a vast knowledge about the nature of reality, God, the Illuminati etc... basically everything we discuss here on NR.&nbsp; So of course this is fasinating!&nbsp; We are always discussing spirituality and we&#039;re both on the same wavelength also.&nbsp; (eg. reading the same books without knowing it)</p><p>I am attending my first year university, and people are behaving and talking about everything mainstream really.&nbsp; Constant chatter. Party this and party that.&nbsp; Aside from my philosophy class, its seems (from my perception) that people are really energized but their focus isn&#039;t in the present moment.&nbsp; So thats what I see with people my age and this particular university.&nbsp; </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>tenetnosce wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Do you ever take notice that something is on your mind, or you are considering making a change, and boom, suddenly there are people around you that are reflecting that back to you?&nbsp; When you are participating in online forums such as NR, do you only consider each post individually, or do you consider all the posts of the day as an integrated whole?</p></blockquote></div><p>As for the relationships I have with the others around me.&nbsp; I have developped some new relationships as I change, and the old ones either fade because we no longer resonate together.&nbsp; So yes, it seems as I change, my external relationships and physicality change.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>As for the NR question, sometimes Ill look at each post individuality, but actually in this thread, I have been looking at it as a whole.&nbsp; It seems like the information just flows down the page.</p><p>Now, at this point in my life, I feel like I don&#039;t know anything, except the fact that I&#039;m working on myself to feel this state of bliss and enlightenment.&nbsp; I&#039;m reading books, practicing disciplines, policing my thoughts, listening to audio files of people talking, reading some more, and I do hear/read opposing ideas, and do not know what to make of them.&nbsp; I have amazing experiences here and there, and for some reason I feel like I want something big to happen already (should I feel this way?).&nbsp; Sometimes I dont even know where I am as the world feels very odd and weird and doesn&#039;t make sense!&nbsp; If someone has any insights on my particular world view and current &#039;situation&#039;, it would be very much apreciated.&nbsp; And thank you for these excellent questions!</p><p>Thanks <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>tenetnosce wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Curious how it appears that in response to my comments about knowing what is really going on in the world, people assumed that I was referring to mainstream news.</p></blockquote></div><p>Personally, I did not assume that you were referring to the mainstream news.&nbsp; I now see that I could have written more clearly.&nbsp; By referencing the inner worlds as well as the outer world I meant to refer to more subtle and often largely hidden influences.</p><p>I meant to point people away from the common perception that by reading, listening, and watching mainstream news, it is possible to find out what is really happening in the world, but now I see that what I wrote may have been interpreted as the exact opposite of that.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>tenetnosce wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Keeping a finger on the latest and greatest rides at the carnival is one aspect of knowing what is going on, but I was referring to larger social, economic, geological, spiritual, political, and cosmic influences / events that, for the most part, are NOT reported in the mainstream media, and to a large degree, are NOT reported (or misreported) even in the alternative news sources.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes, I did and do understand that you were referring to these larger events and influences.&nbsp; And I agree that for the most part they are not reported in mainstream or alternative news sources.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>montalk wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>One example is the <a href="http://shareintl.org/">Maitreya material</a> by Benjamin Creme, whose site has this to say about the anti-christ, &quot;With the defeat of the Axis powers during World War II, the work of the anti-christ energy was completed for this age and will not manifest again for over 3,000 years.&quot;</p></blockquote></div><p>Ah yes, good ol&#039; Benjamin Creme!&nbsp; As I recall, the &quot;Day of Declaration,&quot;&nbsp; where Maitreya was to reveal himself through a global television simulcast concurrent with a telepathic message to each and every human being, was to occur by late 1998.&nbsp; Then of course it was by 2000.&nbsp; </p><p>The predictions will always hold a special place for me, as it was my first real experience with Internet disinformation tactics.&nbsp; It came at a time when I was profusely reading Alice Bailey, et al., and was flirting with a &quot;Fourth Way School&quot;&nbsp; that turned out to be rather cultish.</p><p>The interesting thing is how all these avenues of disinformation converged upon me at the same time, in effect keeping me from blindly tossing myself headlong into any one particular stream, as they all conflicted with each other.</p><p>I was first exposed to Zetatalk in &#039;03 (I think) amidst a whirlwind of predictions about the return of Planet X.&nbsp; I&#039;ve since used that site as sort of a gold-standard for disinformation techniques.&nbsp; It is really quite educating when looked at from that perspective.</p><p>What has always striked me as odd is how these various sources of disinfo will make bold predictions, and when they don&#039;t come to pass, nobody will so much as simply acknowledge&nbsp; that they were wrong.&nbsp; It&#039;s just off to the next prediction!&nbsp; Even more curious is how their followers will continue to allow themselves to be herded along into the next pasture without so much as a peep of dissent.</p><p>The whole Planet X, Nibiru, Wormwood thing is a topic that is also very close to me, and has served as a reminder that there is some type of higher force guiding my life.&nbsp; I very clearly and distinctly remember when the newspapers&nbsp; came out with the announcement that they had discovered the 10th planet, and then just as suddenly the reports disappeared.&nbsp; Poof!&nbsp; Not even a statement of retraction.&nbsp; This was in 1983, and I was just six years old.&nbsp; I didn&#039;t at the time have any clue that disinformation was even possible!</p><p>[BTW, I&#039;ve just received a very interesting and highly referenced report on Planet X which included much of the government&#039;s &#039;plan&#039; for dealing with this possibility.&nbsp; If anybody is interested, email me and I will send it to you]</p><p>Another little disinfo site I like to keep tabs on is <a href="http://www.nibiruancouncil.com">www.nibiruancouncil.com</a> where proprietress Jelaila Starr periodically posts updates supposedly from the Nibiruans themselves.&nbsp; I&#039;ve written several emails to her in response to her articles, but have only received one reply where she got a little hot and bothered that I would have the audacity to question anything that the Nibiruans have to say.&nbsp; Interestingly, some of the ideas that she claimed were incorrect found their way into one of her updates not too long ago.&nbsp; &nbsp; </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>montalk wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Alright, so we have one pattern that encourages &quot;ignorance and lassitude&quot; and another that pushes &quot;obsession and diversion.&quot; Two opposite ends of the spectrum, one to nab those who can&#039;t stand the horror of truth and prefer to bury their heads in the sand, another to nab those who become intoxicated by the horror and lose their heads. The first risks complacency against encroaching manipulation that takes compliance as consent, the second risks attacking windmills, bad timing, and emotional traumatization to the point of burnout.</p></blockquote></div><p>Exactly.&nbsp; I suppose there is a higher purpose working itself out through those individuals holding each end of the spectrum in place so others can more clearly determine where they stand.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>montalk wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The one thing I don&#039;t buy is the idea that &quot;The battle between darkness and light is over! Rejoice! Spread the Good News! Celebrate!&quot; ... man, it&#039;s only just begun.</p></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t buy it either.&nbsp; However there also seems to be a dynamic involved where things shift on a more subtle level long before they manifest physically, sometimes by several years.&nbsp; So perhaps people are sensing that at a core spiritual level the battle has already been won, and now it is just a matter of grounding and externalizing those changes.&nbsp; On the one hand it can be beneficial to develop a strong sense of faith and trust, but on the other, it&#039;s so easy to slip into blindness.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>montalk wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Tenetnosce, you mentioned the necessity of observing the subtle signs and trends around you. Well here is what I observe. I see people in the infant stages of their destinies. Some are a bit farther than others, but all seem to be converging upon some nexus point that marks the start of the Show. I believe that the world progresses in concert with our internal progress, therefore if we are internally still in our formative stages, then so is the end game.</p></blockquote></div><p>What I have also observed is that every time I choose to move forward with my own progress, others around me make similar choices, and to a large degree these people aren&#039;t even aware as to very much outside of their own personal dramas.&nbsp; I&#039;ve found that taking action in my own life does orders of magnitude more for others in terms of &#039;waking them up&#039; than attempting to educate them through words alone.&nbsp; I am seeing a lot of relationships splitting apart, people relocating, and lives being reevaluated and restructured accordingly.&nbsp; I do have faith that, in some seemingly inexplicable way, everybody will be in their proper places when the curtain goes up for the last act.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>montalk wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>What we must do is for us individually to determine. Procrastinate and things stall for a while until you catch up, but beyond a certain point you miss the window of opportunity and must face the consequences. Therefore I think we do get some slack, but not that much. Get too hasty and you will not receive the proper support because the timing isn&#039;t right. Therefore, what we must do, and when we must do it, depends on what comes most naturally to us through inspiration and enthusiasm coupled with discernment. What is &#039;natural&#039; can be tainted by swallowing disinformation, and that&#039;s where discernment comes in. It is not enough to be roused out of complacency, but to also watch for swinging too much the other way and becoming hasty or obsessed. Just my opinion.</p></blockquote></div><p>Which is exactly why when I observe a window opening, I do what I can to make others aware of the possibilities.&nbsp; At least it can serve as some form of external verification for what people are sensing internally, and can provide some impetus for taking action.&nbsp; But, as you said, it is critical for each of us to follow their own natural sense of timing.&nbsp; At the same time, each window of opportunity missed will make the final transition more drastic and traumatic for those involved.</p><p>At some point a window will pass where it will no longer be possible for people to make the transition and remain incarnate, and according to some sources, making the transition <em>requires</em> having a body.&nbsp; I suppose that is all part of the larger plan as well.&nbsp; In eternity, these times in which we live are but a fleeting moment, but nevertheless a moment unparalleled for spiritual growth, and so I believe we would all do well to take advantage of it while it is here.</p><p>I, for one, would hate to look back upon it and know that I allowed complacency and indecision to get the better of me.&nbsp; There is always the danger of being too hasty, as I have definitely found through experience, though I have also found that it is far easier to slow things down once begun, or to make adjustments in direction, than to speed things up that have gotten behind.&nbsp; In the first case, the force of inertia works in your favor, while in the second, it works against you, and oh what a force it can be!</p><p>I&#039;m reminded of the Ents hem-hawdling about taking action, meanwhile Saruman&#039;s forces are taking the axe to their forest. The dark side is mobilizing, there&#039;s no doubt about that.&nbsp; Perhaps, as in LotR, hastiness will turn out to be the negs&#039; own undoing in the end, but it won&#039;t be before those of the light get up off their bums, march right up to the gate, and take a stand.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>tenetnosce wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>1.&nbsp; We don&#039;t really need to seek to become aware of the current state of affairs in the world in order to offset negative developments, and that investigating and questioning what is really going on only contributes to the negativity.</p><p>[...] Promoting ignorance and lassitude with respect to the global state of affairs is the mechanism, par excellence, by which TPTBs, the global elite, and hyperdimensional negs, consolidate and manifest their intentions for control and world domination.</p></blockquote></div><p>Ah, I see how &quot;current state of affairs in the world&quot; and &quot;global state of affairs&quot; may have unintentionally come off as &quot;current affairs&quot; which always refers to news, in this case meaning world news indicating further growth of control and corruption. </p><p>Well, there is definitely a disarming ploy being pumped through the fringe channels. One example is the <a href="http://shareintl.org/">Maitreya material</a> by Benjamin Creme, whose site has this to say about the anti-christ, &quot;With the defeat of the Axis powers during World War II, the work of the anti-christ energy was completed for this age and will not manifest again for over 3,000 years.&quot; Other sites detailing the ascension, like &quot;<a href="http://whatsuponplanetearth.com/latest.htm">What&#039;s Up on Planet Earth</a>&quot; may appear overly optimistic regarding our situation. Further examples are not as clear cut...for instance the <a href="http://www.crimsoncircle.com/home.htm">Tobias channelings</a> and <a href="http://www.operationterra.com">Operation Terra</a> material both say that things will get darker in the years ahead, but that it is necessary to disconnect from all of that, to &quot;let go, let god&quot; and so on which equates to paying attention to your own stuff and letting other people and nations deal with theirs, i.e what some would consider &quot;ignorance and lassitude with respect to the global state of affairs.&quot; </p><p>Then there is a diametrically opposite disinformative ploy also being <em>broadcast into receptive channels</em>, one that encourages obsession or diversion rather than ignorance. Spectrum of examples that come to mind: <a href="http://www.zetatalk.com/">Zetatalk</a> - has lots of resources on survival, safe areas, and earth changes but is spiritual cyanide; <a href="http://rense.com/">Rense</a>/<a href="http://www.infowars.com">Infowars</a>/<a href="http://signs-of-the-times.org/">SoTT</a>/etc... - always being the contrarian to mainstream news, usually a couple important items of information, but wholly obsessesed with jeering Zionists and NeoCons; Right Wing Literature - incredibly aware of the machinations of corruption, but advocates dropping everything and living in a hole until time for violent resistance; <a href="http://www.fourwinds10.com/">FourWinds</a> - keeping you on the edge of your seat regarding NWO conspiracy drama and the imminent arrival of NESARA and the&nbsp; Ascended Masters; <a href="http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/">Exopolitics</a>/<a href="http://serpo.org/">Serpo</a>/<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0289830/">Taken</a>/<a href="http://www.disclosureproject.org/">Greer</a>/<a href="http://www.unknowncountry.com/journal/?id=213">Strieber</a> - obsessed with the alien cover-up, yet advocating partnership with aliens.</p><p>Alright, so we have one pattern that encourages &quot;ignorance and lassitude&quot; and another that pushes &quot;obsession and diversion.&quot; Two opposite ends of the spectrum, one to nab those who can&#039;t stand the horror of truth and prefer to bury their heads in the sand, another to nab those who become intoxicated by the horror and lose their heads. The first risks complacency against encroaching manipulation that takes compliance as consent, the second risks attacking windmills, bad timing, and emotional traumatization to the point of burnout.</p><p>The one thing I don&#039;t buy is the idea that &quot;The battle between darkness and light is over! Rejoice! Spread the Good News! Celebrate!&quot; ... man, it&#039;s only just begun. Tenetnosce, you mentioned the necessity of observing the subtle signs and trends around you. Well here is what I observe. I see people in the infant stages of their destinies. Some are a bit farther than others, but all seem to be converging upon some nexus point that marks the start of the Show. I believe that the world progresses in concert with our internal progress, therefore if we are internally still in our formative stages, then so is the end game. </p><p>What we must do is for us individually to determine. Procrastinate and things stall for a while until you catch up, but beyond a certain point you miss the window of opportunity and must face the consequences. Therefore I think we do get some slack, but not that much. Get too hasty and you will not receive the proper support because the timing isn&#039;t right. Therefore, what we must do, and when we must do it, depends on what comes most naturally to us through inspiration and enthusiasm coupled with discernment. What is &#039;natural&#039; can be tainted by swallowing disinformation, and that&#039;s where discernment comes in. It is not enough to be roused out of complacency, but to also watch for swinging too much the other way and becoming hasty or obsessed. Just my opinion.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Curious how it appears that in response to my comments about knowing what is really going on in the world, people assumed that I was referring to mainstream news.</p><p>Keeping a finger on the latest and greatest rides at the carnival is one aspect of knowing what is going on, but I was referring to larger social, economic, geological, spiritual, political, and cosmic influences / events that, for the most part, are NOT reported in the mainstream media, and to a large degree, are NOT reported (or misreported) even in the alternative news sources.&nbsp; </p><p>I am also talking about having an awareness of what is going on in the immediate world around you.&nbsp; How people in your everyday life are behaving.&nbsp; What are they talking about?&nbsp; What is on their minds?&nbsp; Is there a pattern to it?&nbsp; Is it cyclical?&nbsp; Does it coincide with moon cycles or other cosmic influences?&nbsp; How does it compare to your internal state?&nbsp; How does it fit into the larger pattern of global events?</p><p>Do you ever take notice that something is on your mind, or you are considering making a change, and boom, suddenly there are people around you that are reflecting that back to you?&nbsp; When you are participating in online forums such as NR, do you only consider each post individually, or do you consider all the posts of the day as an integrated whole?</p><p>These are the types of things I am talking about, not how many car bombs were set off in Iraq.&nbsp; Just thought I&#039;d clarify.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>This is a really intresting and passionate discussion, and I thank everyone for participating! <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Intrestingly enough, without the television to provide me the 6 O&#039;Clock news, the &quot;events&quot; unfolding in the world seem to come to me from various sources.&nbsp; I am here, right now typing this message, my &quot;reality&quot; is here now, is it not?&nbsp; I&#039;ve honestly never seen Iraq, all I&#039;ve heard about it are fictions.&nbsp; I feel like everything thats going on in Iraq on a physical level may not be all that great.&nbsp; But I can&#039;t even picture Iraq in my head.&nbsp; What&#039;s going on in Iraq right now? Anybody?</p><p>I&#039;ve got class in 10 mintues, so I will finish typing my thoughts about this subject at some other &quot;time&quot;.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>tenetnosce wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>1.&nbsp; We don&#039;t really need to seek to become aware of the current state of affairs in the world in order to offset negative developments, and that investigating and questioning what is really going on only contributes to the negativity.</p></blockquote></div><p>Personally, I think that it is helpful to become aware of the current state of affairs in the world - both positive and negative.&nbsp; I can understand why people may not want to focus on mainstream sources of “news&quot;&nbsp; information, but I still think it is important to be aware of what is happening in the outer world and inner worlds.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>tenetnosce wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>2.&nbsp; Things aren&#039;t really as bad as they seem, the worst has passed, and all we need to do is have a positive attitude and hope that things will work out for the best.</p></blockquote></div><p>I do have the opinion that things are not as bad as they seem (or as bad as they are often portrayed).&nbsp; I don’t mean this in an “ignorance is bliss&quot;&nbsp; way.&nbsp; I mean this in a profound way.&nbsp; I view many horrors and suffering in the world as an expression of a universe that accepts and even promotes a diversity of experience.&nbsp; Not that I enjoy suffering, quite to the contrary.&nbsp; With greater awareness and compassion, much of the suffering here could be avoided.</p><p>Currently, I see this as a planet of mixed polarity, where there are both positive and negative elements sharing the same region.&nbsp; Also, as I have written here several times before, I have the feeling and intuition that this planet is going to end up with a prevailing positive polarity.&nbsp; I intend to contribute to realizing that scenario.</p><p>I don’t think that the worst has passed.&nbsp; I do think that we have passed some thresholds where there was a possibility that things could be far worse than they are right now.&nbsp; </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>tenetnosce wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>3.&nbsp; Taking positive action to live a more sustainable lifestyle, such as growing your own food, relocating to a safer environment, and finding effective and ethical ways to earn money is too difficult, impractical, or unnecessary.</p></blockquote></div><p>I think that those are all key steps and issues.&nbsp; I anticipate the possibility of widespread situations where there may be lapses in the supply of food, water, and electricity.&nbsp; To be prepared for that shows good sense, in my opinion.&nbsp; Also, I think that “right livelihood&quot;&nbsp; is an important issue, and it is a significant thing to find livelihood that is ethical.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 01:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Recent Outbreaks of Complacency]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Wow, a lot of takes on this.&nbsp; Even the idea of anger lights up people up.</p><p>I don&#039;t know if I have anything totally coherent to contribute at this point.&nbsp; </p><p>I will say that, interpersonally, I&#039;d rather interact with an angry person than a listless person.&nbsp; To me, anger is more &quot;alive.&quot;&nbsp; I suppose that that notion of life was in the context in which I wrote that it is an affirmation of life: a person capable of anger will maybe defend something worth defending; a person trapped in an emotional cycle like bored self-loathing will let themselves, their friends, and their world be crapped on continually.</p><p>All this does invoke the so-called problem of the ego and the concept of there being stuff worth defending and stuff that&#039;s not worth defending and the question of whether one is defensive because of little insecurity or defensive because of a real threat to one&#039;s spirit.&nbsp; </p><p>I absolutely agree that <em> staying in </em> anger slows the flow of your spirit, dampens your awareness, and increases mistakes.&nbsp; In fact, a principle I try to live by is: &quot;Just for today, do not anger.&quot;&nbsp; </p><p>I also absolutely agree that anger is an ego/lower self reaction.&nbsp; What I was getting at is that anger can transform you from one lower state of ego to a higher state of ego.&nbsp; Yeah, it&#039;s still ego, but an angry ego might be closer to spirit than a woe-is-me ego.&nbsp; It might not, too.&nbsp; It&#039;s not as if there is a step ladder from ego to spirit, with anger taking the fifth rung and some other emotion taking the next rung.</p><p>But, again, anger &quot;feels better&quot; than dull grey uncaring--and it feels better not just to my ego.</p><p>Also, anger and violence aren&#039;t the same.&nbsp; What I call the upside of anger is an immediate feeling of wanting to restore balance.&nbsp; Yes, maybe, the ego&#039;s balance--but can&#039;t the ego somewhat understand what true spiritual balance is too and work for that on its level?&nbsp; An invalidation of anger on the basis that it&#039;s based on wanting things to be different implies that a higher good is accepting things as they are.&nbsp; It&#039;s a higher good I agree with, too.&nbsp; &nbsp; </p><p>...I&#039;ll have to think on it more...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 23:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Recent Outbreaks of Complacency]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><em>EDIT</em> - I was typing this post as you made your above post tenetnosce, so sorry if I duplicated some of your thoughts - I didn&#039;t see your post until after I had made this one...</p><p>--------------------------------------<br />-------------------</p><p>On the theme of the original post tenetnosce; as far as I can see there appears to be some form of divergence occurring.&nbsp; A separation on many levels as people mentally, emotionally and physically move further into their own perception of reality.&nbsp; And this seems to have gathered quite some pace within the last few months alone.</p><p>A while back I personally experienced a massive jump forward in energy and spiritual growth.&nbsp; This came to me on many levels, from feeling reality more &quot;directly&quot; , very vivid recall of dreams, deeper than normal meditations, this even went as far as experiencing premonitions.&nbsp; Then…about four weeks ago I energetically fell right through the floor, as though a thick sticky fog had suddenly surrounded me.&nbsp; I began to feel cut off from those previous feelings as I returned to experiencing life in a more &quot;normal&quot;&nbsp; way; not really noticing the world around me, finding distracting entertainment fulfilling, even my meditations became very difficult and superficial.</p><p>I mention this all for a reason; this &quot;fog&quot;&nbsp; – which I still seem to be under – feels to be something external to me.&nbsp; I have nothing to base this belief on, other than very subtle feelings. It is as though something external has caused what could be likened to static interference.&nbsp; Aside from feeling very disconnected – this has left me with a very heightened feeling of complacency.</p><p>More recently, I have noticed the same things you mention in your initial post.&nbsp; Not just here at NR, but pretty much everywhere – including among many of the people I actually know.&nbsp; Some people seem to be more affected than others; the upshot of this is a lot of divergence.&nbsp; Bringing about conflict where previously things where harmonious – as the acceptance of &quot;negativity&quot;&nbsp; causes disruption.&nbsp; Whilst in the places and relationships where there was once a lot of conflict it appears to have reduced – as through complacency the (in)fighting drops away – although more often than not the negativity remains.</p><p>Ultimately much of this seems to be founded upon something very simple; the decision to take action or to not take action.&nbsp; If we look at NR for example there are many people who have found a lot of information about the nature of reality on many different levels.&nbsp; Our structured &quot;civilised&quot;&nbsp; community, from economics to governments to education and anything and everything else clearly are not what we are taught them to be.&nbsp; Than there is metaphysical and spiritual knowledge which unhinges our taught version of reality even further.&nbsp; It goes on; aliens, secret technology, transdimensional beings, visitations, abductions etc.&nbsp; And all of this without even talking about the impositions and control currently placed upon us in addition to threats of more stringent control.</p><p>And so we as individuals once we have learnt, understood and accepted some or much of this knowledge (let alone having direct experience!) are faced with a single life changing question.&nbsp; &quot;What do I do about this!?&quot; </p><p>There are those that will work hard after such realisations in order change their life to fit in accordance with what they have discovered, experienced or know.&nbsp; Forging themselves a new life, either inside or outside the current systems.</p><p>Then there are those that either fear to change, don’t know how, or simply do not want to change.&nbsp; So what option are these people faced with?&nbsp; Firstly they cannot unlearn what they have learnt.&nbsp; Secondly for whatever reason, they do not want to move forward.&nbsp; And so what other option is left for them but to warp their knowledge / experiences into a new belief system.&nbsp; And if this new belief system can be constructed in such a way so as to be compatible with existing systems – then voila! – they have their solution; to carry on with life as normal…all they need do is learn to see life through rose tinted glasses.&nbsp; To those that don’t walk this path it may appear as complacency or pure lunacy.&nbsp; But in a way it is a work of genius…</p><p>Genius because such a perspective affords the individual to face any truth and adapt it to their own perspective!&nbsp; And these form of &quot;seekers&quot;&nbsp; get closer and closer to the real truths of our reality...their system becomes ever more warped.</p><p>Where as the system / beliefs they broke away from has become so twisted that it is almost founded entirely on lies – these new beliefs are mixed with half-truths.&nbsp; They are very tempting because they require no action from the individual other than for them to change their glasses (to rose tinted ones)…and suddenly they have awakened, become enlightened, transcended and found the truth!</p><p>It is always harder to take action; to change the way one lives their life, and to challenge directly our own beliefs and our own way of being.&nbsp; But it is very rewarding, even if only small steps are taken.</p><p>So what I think we are seeing now is a separation that is occurring in this manner; between those that create action, and those who do not.&nbsp; I look around and I see people that have dreamt for years of changing their lifestyle – yet now they sit back and nothing has happened…their dreams have remained words and thought.&nbsp; Then I see people making bold steps forward, be it spiritual, financial, physical or any other way and many still combined.</p><p>But with all that said, as I mentioned at the start, I am not entirely convinced all this is occurring on a purely anthropomorphic level, though I really wouldn’t like to make a guess as to what else is pulling at us…</p><p><strong><em>EDIT</em></strong>:&nbsp; And as a note to my last point; as tenetnosce already pointed out - look how quickly this thread became derailed.&nbsp; Is there a reason this whole issue seemingly doesn&#039;t want to be discussed??</p><p>One other thought - I am not trying to suggest this is a black and white issue.&nbsp; But I do think there is an underlaying shift in polarity that is the cause of much of this...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Marcus)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Recent Outbreaks of Complacency]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well I expected this thread to get derailed. . but so quickly?&nbsp; And by some of my favorite posters!!!&nbsp; I am so mad at you guys!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/lol.png" width="15" height="15" alt="lol" /> <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>Alright let&#039;s see here.</p><p>Honestly I&#039;m not sure how much of this discussion has to do with the original post at all.</p><p>If I somewhere insinuated that the only two choices in life are to complacently sit on your bum and eat bonbons all day, or to get stark raving mad and take on the whole NWO with an oversized spatula and a Salad-shooter, then please allow me to offer more clarity on my position.</p><p>I started this thread because I have been seeing all sorts of innovative, interesting, and insightful ideas come up on NR in regard to unplugging from the matrix.&nbsp; I&#039;ve noticed a clear shift (I can actually pinpoint it to 06 December) toward finding practical solutions and cooperation among the members here, and it is my ego-reaction to be pleased with it, and to desire to preserve and encourage it.</p><p>Since the new moon, I have also noticed an increasing amount of infiltration of &#039;contributions&#039;, mostly from &#039;new&#039; members, that are not really contributory in nature, but rather decidedly erosive and de-energizing.&nbsp; </p><p>Hmm.&nbsp; Just when things were starting to gain momentum.&nbsp; Interesting.</p><p>C&#039;mon guys (and gals), we&#039;ve learned this lesson before, haven&#039;t we?</p><p>So now here we are arguing about the usefulness of anger, when I think it is clear to all of us that, for the most part, anger is a big waste of energy.</p><p>I don&#039;t really think we are in disagreement on the subject of anger, but it is an interesting topic, and if we want to continue the discussion and hash the details out, then let&#039;s move it to a new thread.</p><p>If you go back and read my original post, you will find that I am very clear that I don&#039;t believe that everything is going to hell-in-a-handbasket, and that we&#039;re all just screwed.</p><p>What I do believe is that we&#039;re still in a period of things getting worse before they get better, and the more that people continue to hem and haw about what they are going to do about the situation, or simply ignore it, the worse things will become, and the less aware they have made themselves up until that point, the more of a rude and sudden awakening they will experience when the net goes down.</p><p>I do believe that TPTBs are in the process of engineering numerous possibilities such as more &#039;natural&#039; disasters, terrorist attacks, economic collapse, or a conflagaration of all of the above, and if they are successful, it&#039;s going to be a really rough ride for anybody living in a major city, to say the least.&nbsp; When the utilities go down, and the roadblocks go up, anybody caught in the trap will be stuck with their only &#039;support&#039; being agents cleverly disguised as dodos in FEMA jackets.&nbsp; If you think you are ready to dodge bullets, single-handedly take on a hundred agents, and fly away to safety, well then, more power to ya.&nbsp; If you happen to fly by and notice me standing atop a sixteen-wheeler barreling down the highway, with a Chinese man and a large set of keys, be sure to snatch us up on your way out.</p><p>We live in a collective reality, and the masses of the earth are still engaged in a victim mentality, whereby they are waiting to be rescued by some uber-force of wholesome nut n&#039; honey goodness to save them from destruction.&nbsp; And so they shall have it.&nbsp; I, for one, am choosing to have a different experience, and since I am only one man, I feel it is important for me to dissociate myself from life in the cow-farm as much as possible, and to surround myself with conscious individuals who are in agreement with the idea that living a peaceful and secure life need not come at the expense of personal freedom.&nbsp; I&#039;d rather leave the nuts to the squirrels and let them fight amongst themselves.</p><p>Yet since I also have no desire to retire to the wilderness and eat acorn soup for the rest of my earthly existence, I am looking to create a happy medium whereby I can be as unplugged from the matrix as possible, while still making myself available to reenter the matrix and be of service to others that truly desire freedom.</p><p>So let me toot my own horn and say that I truly believe that it is a very well-balanced and intelligent choice to make.&nbsp; It&#039;s not coming from anger or fear, but the simple awareness that the life I have been leading is not as aligned with my core values as it could be.&nbsp; </p><p>*** END TOOT ***</p><p>Addendum:&nbsp; As far as the prison / school dichotomy goes, I have never been a particularly large fan of the &quot;earth as school&quot; position because my experience of school has been such that it very closely resembles a prison. You take on a curriculum that is decided for you by others who supposedly know better than you, and then the same &#039;lessons&#039; are repeated over and over again <em>ad nauseum</em> in subtly different forms, such that the appearance of progress is maintained, while in reality, the goal is to indoctrinate you with false beliefs and to entrain you to follow orders.&nbsp; I absolutely agree that what you focus on becomes your reality, but I also feel that the process of becoming free begins with the realization that you are a slave.&nbsp; </p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Morpheus: The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us, even now in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, when you go to church, when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.</p><p>Neo: What truth?</p><p>Morpheus: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else you were born into bondage, born into a prison that you cannot smell or taste or touch. A prison for your mind.... Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself. This is your last chance. After this there is no turning back. You take the blue pill, the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes....</p></blockquote></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Most anger expressed by people in everyday life is an ego reaction. This is because when we go out in the world and interact as we generellay do (work, school, running errands, etc.) it is often easy to get bogged down in lower 3D wavelenghts since that&#039;s what we&#039;re doing, running on the 3D hamster wheel because it needs to be done to live around here. It is easy to lose contact with our higher selves and remember who we are and how to act when engaged in 3D activities. Some people are better than others. I myself have been improving, but still find my mind running in circles about this and that and getting stressed until I get home, sit down and remember &quot;Oh, right, it&#039;s not the real world, so don&#039;t sweat it Ian.&quot; That is why sometimes I get rubbed the wrong way and get angry about rude customers, &quot;zombies&quot; out in public, on the road, etc. </p><p>But that&#039;s one kind of anger that we can do without. There is anger that is genuine and reasonable, provided it you control it and not vice versa. Extreme example: you&#039;re walking home at night, you see a young woman getting assaulted and she&#039;s yelling for help. Do you fight your instinct to get angry, keep that emotion suppressed and walk up to the assailant saying &quot;Excuse me sir, could you please stop harming her?&quot;. Me, I get in there ASAP, yell at him to let go of her and if he doesn&#039;t listen, I take him off. I would get quite angry, but my anger would be under my control, which is a good thing &#039;cause it might be what&#039;s stopping me from beating the pulp out of him. I get angry when people are getting victimized in front of me, and I won&#039;t<br />stand for it. </p><p>I also get angry when I or a friend is being disrespected. I don&#039;t stand for that either. I treat you with respect, and I demand the same. I don&#039;t think its too much to ask. I can brush off getting called the rudest names in the book, but I know when I am being truly disrespected, and I&#039;ll set the matter straight. If I am ignored, so be it I will ignore the source. </p><p>In these cases my anger is in a smaller degree, and still controled of course. I speak in a firm voice and speak my mind straight-up. I will not let others step on my toes and treat me as they please, because I deserve at least the same respect as she/he does and if I don&#039;t set them straight, they&#039;ll think it&#039;s okay to treat people (includung myself) the way they do. I&#039;m actually doing them a favor. They may (or may not) realize after I talk&#039;em right off their high horse that &quot;Whoah, he&#039;s right, i can&#039;t talk to people like that! I sure wouldn&#039;t wanna be on the receiving end!&quot; </p><p>I think that anger, as presented in these examples at least, is warranted sometimes and is not something to be surpressed or overcome, but to be tamed and used properly. </p><p>When it comes to the ego, and anger being a property of it, well I don&#039;t buy that. It&#039;s deeper than that originally. TPTB may have programmed our ego&#039;s to get angry (or sexually aroused, or something) when presented certain stimuli, but they didn&#039;t create any emotions. They only manipulated them. The ego is not something to be shed, but transcended. Only in death is the true ego shed. Jung calls for the integration of our various selves. Once integrated, many parts of the ego are destroyed, but not the ego itself because it is our identity/sense of self on this plane. People have their anger triggered by the strangest or smallest of things. Working with your shadow self can reveal the root causes and correct the imbalances. But that doesn&#039;t mean anger is thrown away outright, at least not in 3D.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Ian)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>tenetnosce wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>But it&#039;s another, I think, when a person is suddenly made aware that the world that they live in is not what they think it is, and moreover has been carefully manipulated with malicious intent toward their enslavement.</p></blockquote></div><p>But that would imply believing that, as souls, we were totally unaware of what we were getting ourselves into when we incarnated here. Maybe that&#039;s the case, however I strongly believe that our souls knew exactly what they were letting themselves in for. So if you take that view, is there still any need to feel angry about it? On a soul level you already knew.</p><p>I guess it all comes down to whether you choose to view Earth (or 3D) as prison or a school.</p><p>I&#039;m just in the middle of reading Story Waters&#039; new book and here&#039;s a small excerpt I read yesterday which jumped out at me for some reason.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Story Waters wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>&quot;The reality before you is the most meaningful experience you could be having in this moment. It is never a mistake. To become aware of its message of love, you must allow the experience of your reality into yourself. This is to be one with it, rather than to reject, resist, or judge it. This is to experience it with clarity. It is to hear its message, which is to allow it to transform into the next experience. Hear the message of your current reality in order to release its rigidity, such that your fluid dreams can unfold&quot;</p></blockquote></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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