So, Lyra is very close to the truth (even on her website -- we get around!), and I think it would be interesting to chat with her -- one choir member sharing with another, as it were.) You ask, "Who the heck is Zarg that he can (arrogantly?) state these things...? Who does he think he is?"  Oh, I see, you prefer to speculate...

......the word 'choir'  got me "speculating" ......... are you referring to the Celestial Chorus tradition?
The Paradigm
The Song: The whole of creation is one great Song, sung by everything that exists in praise to the Highest. Every event bear witness to the greatness of the One, although our limited understanding does not always make this apparent. What appears to be evil, disharmonies or errors in the Song are really a necessary part of the music, forming dark counterpoints and contrasts to the beautiful themes. We must strive to sing with the Song, harmonize the different voices, and help all of creation unite harmoniously into the glorious finale.

1D is a very important place, and part of the basic manipulation tactic is to get you to ignore it, or to fear it.  No!  Don't go there!  You must raise your vibration and join the 4D party!  It's so much more exciting over here!

1D is a wonderful place.  It is the iron crystal at the center of the planet.  It is your home.  It is a place of quiet, a place of rest, a place where you are safe.  You can go there whenever you like.

Go there right now, and see how you feel when you come back.

9D is a wonderful place as well.  It is the black hole at the center of the galaxy.  It is also your home.  It is the source of all movement in the galaxy.  This is where you feel complete, fulfilled, exhilarated.  Where everything is drawn back to yourself.  You can go there whenever you like as well.

Go there right now, and see how you feel when you come back.

You can take a little journey starting down in 1D and moving up through all the dimensions to 9D.  You can hang out in 9D for a while, and then move back down through the dimensions into your body.

But I think there is also another way back.  I think you can go through the black hole, and emerge back at 1D.   

I think the dimensions are less like a tube that you travel up and down in, and more like a torus.  A doughnut.  The serpent swallowing its own tail.

I think the 'other world' that we want to experience is on the flip side of the galaxy.  Through the black hole, to a place where you already exist. 

Another you.
 

----Well i think the perfect truth of the universe does exist, only it is not
a static 'thing', or some clever formula... Methinks, it is a state
of being, a point where each duality ends, where all the "inside-
outside", "me-my environment", "matter-energy", "past-
future", "subject-object" constructions which govern our thinking
and acting dissolve into the timeless here-and-now.
Yes, to me truth is an "omega-point" from where everything is
coming, the source of the unending flow, a movement from moment to
moment, every moment it creates the universe anew, every moment is a
quantum leap from the known to the unknown over the unknowable.
A point of eternal beginning that was always there, always is and
will always be, yet never quite the same, a center beyond everything
yet in the very heart of every thing, a heart pulsing with energy-
intelligence-love (the good old sat-chit-ananda).
  A point where the only thing that can be done is to give up wanting
to reach a final goal, where it becomes clear that a "final
entlightment" is surrender to the unending transformation ,expanding
and learning.
  like here:
  " ...suddenly it dawned upon me that a common mistake made in the
higher meditation - i.e., meditation for Liberation - is the seeking
for a subtle Object of recognition...At once i dropped expectation
of having anything happen. Then with eyes open and no sense stopped
in functioning...i abstracted the subjective moment - the "I AM"
or "Atman" element from the objective consciousness manifold. Upon
this i focused. Naturally, i found what, from the relative point of
view, is darkness and emptiness.  But I Realized It as Absolute
Light and Fullness and that I was That. ... I found myself above the
universe not in the sense of leaving the physical body and being
taken out in space, but in the sense of being above space, time and
casuality. ... I sustained the universe and was not bounded by
it. ... All worldy honors were without power to exalt me. Physical
life seemed undesirble. Repeatedly,... i was in the state of deep
brooding, thinking thoughts that were so abstract that there were no
concepts to represent them. I seemed to comprehend a veritable
library of Knowledge, all less concrete than the most abstract
mathematics. The personality rested in the gentle glow of happiness,
but while it was very gentle, yet it was so potent as to dull the
keenest sensuous dilight. ... I found but one interest: the desire
that other souls should also realize This....for in it lay the one
effective key for the solving of their problems. The little trgedies
of men left me indifferent.  I saw one GREAT TRAGEDY, the failure of
man to realize his own Divinity".
  Franklin Merrell-Wolff, "Pathways Through To Space"

(e)Xtraterrestial Tea Company

So, Lyra is very close to the truth (even on her website -- we get around!), and I think it would be intresting to chat with her -- one choir member sharing with another, as it were.)

Thanks Zarg.    After reading your Prison Planet intro post, I'm all ears.  I don't see an email address for you when I click on your name, but you can contact me at scorpio948@yahoo.com

Regards....

2007-2008 is a more relevant period, and one in which this Virtual Reality begins to unwind -- not a shift/Wave, but the beginning of the liberation from the Lizzies.

Hey Zarg, what do you base your 2007-2008 time period on? 

I think that we are in a period of major change now and that the rate of change will increase.

Just looking for a better understanding of what went into your post.

Hey, zargy, didcha get the email i sent in response, since you've replied to neither of them and i sent it from 2 different accounts i think it might have gotten "lost in transmission" So if you would be as kind as to say you either got them or didnt and we can think of what to do then.

Edit: I dont mean that i realised something because of this thread but that i did realise something at some point

Edit2: Masturbation is very healthy for you, within certain levels It clears the old and makes room for the new

There is no shift to the 4th (my dream to that effect [as I related earlier] was disinfo given me. Be careful what you believe as it can affect the amount (and quality) of Light you hold ... and indirectly, it affects your DNA.

So, Lyra is very close to the truth (even on her website -- we get around!), and I think it would be intresting to chat with her -- one choir member sharing with another, as it were.) You ask, "Who the heck is Zarg that he can (arrogantly?) state these things...? Who does he think he is?"  Oh, I see, you prefer to speculate... you don't want answers... really. (I have already given hints in my previous posts as to my group and who I am, but this has been 'dissed' -- except for 2 perceptive souls who have emailed me [I didn't know that was possible]. And I don't blame you -- better to be cautious than be taken in. But I do know.) I know enough to know that Kangaxx several years ago on AboveTopSecret forum was telling the truth, and enough to know that the "Insider" on godlyrealms website (Fall 2005) was disinfo -- but very well done, nonetheless.

I will probably make one more post (within a week) with en eye to giving you (summary) info you CAN use -- why just dump 'Prison Planet' on people without giving them something they can do about it, or use to heal yourself, or make a positive diff in the world..? Answer: I was testing to see what responses would be forthcoming. You have some real thinkers here... but be careful not to get into 'mental masturbation'.  And it's OK if you do; people can post info and disinfo on this great forum, so test yourself -- see if you can spot what's what.  A growth process.

No arguments, you're all great and contributing to spiritual growth. Montalk is to be thanked for hosting a website with a lot of Light and this Forum. . Cheers!

An interesting article is The How and Why of the Mayan End Date in 2012 AD by John Major Jenkins.  He mentions some interesting astronomical significance calculate for 12:00noon GMT, 2012 which maybe means some important thing, who knows.  And the fact that these people calculated the calendar to end exactly on a winter solstice some 2300+ years in the future, is certainly impressive in itself.

There is also a really interesting page on the Mayan Calendar, at http://www.michielb.nl/maya/calendar.html.  You can convert any date from our Julian caldenar to the Mayan Calendar, and correlate it with the approximate translation/meaning of the Mayan day and month.

Interesting... after entering my birthday into the Java Applet, and then my girlfriend's birthday into the calendar, for some reason I put in Jan 30, 1933 - the day that Hitler came to power in Europe.  (This date has always stuck in my mind since history class in grade 12, for s

Thanks.

I will read it

....... and comment on it if you wish.

only if you feel moved to do so...

I will read it

....... and comment on it if you wish.

I think this from Metatron is one of the best channelings on this subject: http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=1818

This topic reminds me of part of the 1981 Ra channelling session that says :

"How does a third-density planet become a fourth density planet?"

" I am Ra.
The fourth density is, as we have said, as regularized in its approach as the striking of a clock upon the hour. The space/time of your solar system has enabled this planetary sphere to spiral into space/time of a different vibrational configuration. This causes the planetary sphere to be able to be molded by these new distortions. However, the thought-forms of your people during this transition period are such that the mind/body/spirit complexes of both individual and societies are scattered throughout the spectrum instead of becoming able to grasp the needle, shall we say, and point the compass in one direction.
Thus, the entry into the vibration of love, sometimes called by your people the vibration of understanding, is not effective with your present societal complex. Thus, the harvest shall be such that many will repeat the third-density cycle. The energies of your Wanderers, your teachers, and your adepts at this time are all bent upon increasing the harvest. However, there are few to harvest. "

http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?ca … tart_row=0

http://www.diagnosis2012.co.uk/5.htm

And yes, according to the Mayan calendar, it's the end of a cycle.
Here's sometning I read on this recently:

http://www.matrixmasters.com/spirit/htm … l#galactic

I totally agree with that last sentence in particular...

But this process of ascension is not about a cosmic lightswitch that a disembodied spirit flips at a certain moment in time such as December 21, 2012.  It is a process of continuing unfoldment.  It is a process of reaching deep within yourself and making those changes inside that quite literally do fulfill the prophecy of a new world- a new heaven, a new earth.  A world that is indeed one hundred times more harmonious. A world where you do indeed step into the divine abilities that are your endowment, which now lie in dormant potentiality."

Remember in school when we wrote exams ?

Some people finished the 2 hour exam in one hour and then left.
Some people finished the 2 hour exam in one hour and stuck around to check the answers over.
Some, sensing the deadline, quickly finished in the last 10 minutes.
Others don't finish but have enough correct answers to move on to the next grade while others don't finish and have to repeat the grade.   

Is this a reasonable analogy of December 21, 2012 ?
The end of a cycle ?

Some of us may have to play with the smaller kids for a year.

"Rest assured that there is great validity in that which you have seen as unbelievable.  Rest assured that this new world is coming into focus even now.  The energies of fourth density are transforming the vibratory frequency of DNA.  Many paranormal experiences become available to the awakening soul as this expansion continues.  Many areas of resistance will emerge.

The path centers with yourself, with the forgiveness of self, the acceptance of self, and then the direction and will to positive and creative action.  Self understanding is a crucial component of this as you must understand what is present before you can fully forgive and accept it.

To understand yourself is to commit to finding answers to the questions that are welling up in your mind.  If you having a passion to know, to seek, to understand, allow yourself a grace period, if you wish, to resolve those questions.  This is honoring yourself, and honoring the heritage that you are coming from.

This awakening can be very difficult, like being beaten with reeds, the reeds themselves not being thick, but the cumulative sting causing a great welling up of sorrow in the mind.  There is the feeling that life will never truly be resolved on Earth, that it will never truly be what you want, and thus you constantly have to "settle for"  levels of disharmony and discontent.  There are certain compromises that are inevitable.

But this process of ascension is not about a cosmic lightswitch that a disembodied spirit flips at a certain moment in time such as December 21, 2012.  It is a process of continuing unfoldment.  It is a process of reaching deep within yourself and making those changes inside that quite literally do fulfill the prophecy of a new world- a new heaven, a new earth.  A world that is indeed one hundred times more harmonious. A world where you do indeed step into the divine abilities that are your endowment, which now lie in dormant potentiality."

Here is a link to the full reading: http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=466

Also, here is a link to David Wilcock's recently updated web site called "Divine Cosmos":
http://www.divinecosmos.com/cms/

The classic date for the end of the Mayan calendar is December 21, 2012.  December 21 is the solstice and today is also the solstice - December 21, 2005.  So the classic ending date to the Mayan calendar is now exactly 7 years away.

According to some theories and according to some people's personal experience, over the past few years, there has been a sense that "time is speeding up" so that even though 2012 may be 7 years away - it may feel like it is arriving more quickly than we generally think of 7 years lasting.

While the dates may be interesting as markers, I don't recommend putting too much emphasis on them - still, it may be helpful to have a framework for understanding that we may be living in a period of acceleration, and at some point when we look back we may realize that we are living in a changed world.  Perhaps this is happening already, but the upcoming difference over the next few years may be the degree of change.