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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Organic vs. Synthetic]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=27242#p27242</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>All this discussion about fakery brought to mind a song by Fear Factory- &quot;corporate cloning&quot;---</p><p>A clone force mass produced<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; simulate, introduce<br />delinquent, rank and file<br />incodent, stamped and styled </p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ill affected progeny<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; tasteless iconography</p><p>A half-life in the line<br />&nbsp; industry, by design<br />PLASTIC thughts in my mind<br />thus begins my demise</p><p>This year&#039;s model dims and fades<br />last year&#039;s model is erased</p><p>&nbsp; prototype by design<br />&nbsp; prototype, stand in line!</p><p>Life and sex share a mind<br />deviance is a crime<br />another fading idol, another fallen icon</p><p>Sometimes I wish I was deaf and blind...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 19:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Organic vs. Synthetic]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=27193#p27193</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I do agree, Haven. They do know they are being fake- so there is some awareness there- a matter of degrees i guess?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Organic vs. Synthetic]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=27191#p27191</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>dreamosis-&nbsp; i said I wasn&#039;t trying to get personal lol. No- that is some excellent strategy<br />And your phrase &quot;negative holding pattern&quot; sums it up PRECISELY.<br />When i used to get really angry at things- I had no concept of loosh at the time, mind you- It did feel as though energy was leaving my core.<br />The anger is one aspect I have been in nearly full control of for a number of years now- <br />All I suppose changed there was simply telling myself it is not worth expending energy on.<br />Venting about the work situation has to be second only to $ as the source of so much tension in relationships and friendships alike. Something all of us can work on.&lt;&gt;</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Organic vs. Synthetic]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=27189#p27189</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>CortexVortex wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Maybe dreamosis needs to coerce his wife to a place he knows she&#039;d be less comfortable in order to make his point- sorry not trying to get personal ;-)</p></blockquote></div><p>...I actually tried that--with okay results.&nbsp; </p><p>One day my wife returned home from work and began &quot;venting.&quot;&nbsp; She had not been getting on with her boss very well, and re-hashing nasty events of the workplace is a habit of hers.&nbsp; I do it, too, every now and again, but--at the time she had this job--it was every other day for an hour or more she was doing this.</p><p>I had decided that it (her venting) was a negative holding pattern and I decided that I would coerce her into breaking it...</p><p>That particular day I was in a great mood.&nbsp; I had been relaxing, writing, walking along the lake, and meditating.&nbsp; When she walked in, and began complaining, I was...just amused.&nbsp; Amused that she was still taking her boss personally and couldn&#039;t let it go.&nbsp; I was amused and I laughed.&nbsp; </p><p>She noticed me laughing and asked me what was funny.&nbsp; I told her she was funny.&nbsp; Then I asked her if she <em> wanted </em> to feel frustrated, angry, intimidated and unhappy.&nbsp; She said she didn&#039;t.&nbsp; So I suggested she not feel that way anymore.&nbsp; </p><p>She said she couldn&#039;t switch gears just like that.&nbsp; </p><p>I suggested she could if she wanted to.&nbsp; &nbsp; </p><p>...During all this, I was really very amused and laughing out loud.&nbsp; I had decided, and I told her expressly, that I had no intention of giving up my good mood.&nbsp; </p><p>She took offense to that and called me egotistic, since I clearly only cared about my feelings and not hers.&nbsp; </p><p>I countered that I did care about her feelings and didn&#039;t want her to feel bad feelings and that&#039;s why I was holding my positive level (which, I felt, I really truly was).&nbsp; </p><p>Long story short, she stormed out of the apartment, slamming the door on the way out, being as--as I see it--I had created a space unsupportable of negative emotion.</p><p>She returned a few hours later and apologized, though, saying of course she didn&#039;t want to feel crummy, but...(Well, negative emotion is addicting isn&#039;t it?)&nbsp; And from there on out she did gain more of an emotional &quot;seniority&quot; at work.&nbsp; And became aware of her venting and stopped it--actually, we mutually agreed on a time-limit of twenty minutes. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />&nbsp; The time limit helped, too.&nbsp; With a time limit, instead of walking circles, she aimed for resolution.&nbsp; </p><p>...I&#039;ve tried this type of &quot;coercion&quot; several times now.&nbsp; I&#039;d say it&#039;s fifty percent effective.&nbsp; </p><p>My wife is emotionally volatile.&nbsp; And she knows it.&nbsp; She almost never shows her underbelly to anyone but me--which, I think, both endears me to her and makes her (ego) resent me very much.&nbsp; &nbsp;I say &quot;volatile,&quot; because when she does show her underbelly, it&#039;s all the way--she breaks down.</p><p>She&#039;s an emotional type.&nbsp; I&#039;m an intellectual type.&nbsp; I do feel my way through problems, but a break down for me is usually purging.&nbsp; For her the breakdown is shameful.&nbsp; She&#039;s a bit of a perfectionist (from a rich WASP family of over-achievers).&nbsp; For her to admit that there is a problem means a major emotional, &quot;shameful&quot; breakdown.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </p><p>It&#039;s created a weird dynamic for me on my path.</p><p>I don&#039;t have to coerce her into less comfortable spaces; being around her, being who I am and she being who she is, she&#039;s made uncomfortable (as am I, oftentimes).&nbsp; &nbsp; </p><p>...Sometimes it feels like her emotional self never grew up, like she&#039;s only emotionally ten years old.&nbsp; Her emotions own her, she doesn&#039;t own her emotions.&nbsp; And that&#039;s probably when she suppresses them.&nbsp; I&#039;ve seen her consciously choose her attitudes before, but it seems to take a monumental effort for her to do that.&nbsp; For me, it&#039;s difficult, but doable--so it&#039;s hard to empathize.</p><p>...Sometimes I do look at her like a &quot;slow-poke.&quot;</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 02:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Organic vs. Synthetic]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=27160#p27160</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Everything about a human these days is a product to sell, even their personality and soul.&nbsp; People are fake, act the way they think they can sell themselves.&nbsp; Liking certain things, being certain ways, these things are usually manufactured, even if the person liking a certain thing or being a certain way doesn&#039;t actually admit or consciously tell themselves this, but they know they are just trying to convince everybody into thinking they are what they are trying to present themselves as.&nbsp; Supply and demand.&nbsp; Even the people, usually young, that rebel against the system are usually trying to demonstrate their value by offering a different product.&nbsp; It&#039;s a way to stand out, like an advertisement.&nbsp; The synthetic, consumer society has permeated the human being, and, indeed, it does come off as distasteful.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Haven)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 20:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Organic vs. Synthetic]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=27105#p27105</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>This is in response mainly to dreamosis&#039; &quot;hoochie mamas&quot; post. I understand this all too well as I have always had a wicked aversion to the bar scene. <br />Only recently could I put my finger on why. I could simplify it using &quot;organic vs. synthetic&quot;<br />Consumerism has become a religion in its own right- and just looking in people&#039;s driveways proves their strong adherence to dogma.<br />In my experience it is these folk- the Joneses- who have the least regard for the depth of human emotion.<br />I wish not to stereotype- but we all know this is a real phenomenon.<br />Growing up we are surrounded by plastic.... the Synthetic.<br />The old saying &quot;you are what you eat&quot; comes to mind. <br />Or, we eventually come to resemble the things we place value upon.<br />Maybe this is vague- this is just my way of thinking.<br />Picture the 11 year old playing his Xbox staring endlessly into a polystyrene encased life-sucker.<br />Has he ever smelled a rose?<br />Appreciated a gorgeous sunset?<br />Chances are, no.<br />Is that his fault? Or is he preoccupied with the world he has come to know.......<br />Now i&#039;d like to try a little reversal.<br />We can try and understand some of what goes on in these plastic minds perhaps.<br />Is that woman over by the pool table looking at YOU thinking<br />&quot;wow, what a souled human being&quot;<br />&quot;I can see a warmth in his eyes- a conscience that I am aware I do not have&quot; <br />&quot;I&#039;d like to go over there and mess with his head for awhile- drag him down to my level&quot;<br />&quot;Maybe show some more cleavage and bulldoze his pesky intellectualism&quot;<br />It&#039;s not an us and them argument.<br />But I will not deny for a second there is something missing there.<br />It does seem like a one way street.<br />Organic=the aware&nbsp; <br />Synthetic= the unaware<br />I know it&#039;s in reality a much more complex question, and I do agree with montalk that it may be possible to increase one&#039;s awareness and others have probably over the years declined in their awareness- I&#039;d call that apathy.<br />Yoa are judged by the company you keep- and in some respects you are only as good as the company you keep.<br />Maybe dreamosis needs to coerce his wife to a place he knows she&#039;d be less comfortable in order to make his point- sorry not trying to get personal ;-)<br />I do believe alot of ourselves hinges on who we spend time wih and where we spend time...........</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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