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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: As Above, So Below and Confusion]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jen and all here is a different concept&nbsp; <a href="http://www.immunics.org">http://www.immunics.org</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Mriver]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-11-12T23:52:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: As Above, So Below and Confusion]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I am of two minds on this subject.&nbsp; On the one hand,&nbsp; I do believe it is always possible to heal the body, but we are hypnotized by the seeming reality of the &quot;illness.&quot;&nbsp; </p><p>You get what you focus on.&nbsp; In the case of Wilbur&#039;s wife, f.e., she only reinforced her disease by continually focusing on it, feeling guilty/disappointed etc. But on another level, she may have wanted the experience for her soul growth, and the experience may have been part of her soui contract for that lifetime.&nbsp; Plus, death itself can be a healing.&nbsp; </p><p>I guess it comes back to that old New Age axion, &quot;it&#039;s all good.&quot;</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jen]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-11-12T21:49:59Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for recommendation. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dreamosis]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-11-07T00:06:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: As Above, So Below and Confusion]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Excellent points.&nbsp; One of the more inspiring books I&#039;ve ever read was by Ken Wilbur called &quot;Grace and Grit&quot; -- it was written a few years after his wifes passing from cancer and was their story of the Grace and Grit of this devastating struggle YET sprititual time for both of them.</p><p>Much of the book are journal entries by his wife during this time (which was a 5 year battle) ... and because she had been a long time meditator and &quot;spiritually advanced&quot; person her own guilt, disappointment etc at her &quot;inability&quot; to heal her body --- she often asked the questions about whether her illness was karmic, or lack of working hard enough on herself ... over and over -- the conclusion to the book is truly awesome.</p><p>I highly highly recommend it.&nbsp; Bring kleenex.</p><p>Christine</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Christine B.]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-11-04T16:41:14Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[As Above, So Below and Confusion]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve noticed that one experience that is particulary discouraging to spiritual seekers is physical health.&nbsp; </p><p>Once people discover the principle of &quot;As above, so below&quot; they are eager (and I was and am) to heal their body.</p><p>With the maxim of &quot;As above, so below&quot; in mind, people figure that if their mind/soul/spirit is purified and healthy that their body must be healthy, too.&nbsp; And many people are discouraged, and take it as a sign of failure as an aspirant, when they find themselves still sick, still overweight, or underweight, or diabetic, with dandruff, or whatever.</p><p>...I&#039;ve been considering that the teaching of You-Create-Your-Own-Reality and As Above, So Below isn&#039;t a teaching for the physical body or ego per se.&nbsp; The teaching, perhaps, is really aimed at the inner you and aimed at disengaging you from the ego--which could involve detaching from perfect-pictures of physicality. </p><p>Even saints get sick.&nbsp; Sickness is not necessarily a symptom of non-evolvedness.&nbsp; </p><p>If we meant to transcend physicality, then there must at some point be a detachment from concern for its health maybe.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dreamosis]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-11-04T15:23:14Z</updated>
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