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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Mastering the Lower Self]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful information. Thank you.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Natural Mystic)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>nexus wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Spirit is at the eye of every storm.&nbsp; Calm and unconditioned by the storm&#039;s external fury it sees clearly and knows what we must do or not do.</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;ve found that the effect of mastering the lower self (or at least trying to) is an automatic awareness of that calm eye in the storm.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=68544#p68544</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>That was really good dreamosis.&nbsp; Not to say that most threads don&#039;t have value but ones like this dealing with the essentials of consciousness are especially practical and focused right where they need be.... if we&#039;re ever going to transcend ourselves that is.&nbsp; It shows we have far more to do [and not do] than passively await a date 5 years hence to change us and our world.&nbsp; </p><p>Sometimes the simplest concepts say so much don&#039;t they?&nbsp; I hadn&#039;t read Mouravieff and few people nowadays probably have, so it&#039;s good that such great work, as that metaphor, is kept alive by your own interest and resonance with it.&nbsp; &nbsp;I wonder if that is part of our &#039;job&#039;?&nbsp; To pour over the gems of the past and re- invigorate and re- present the divine concepts expressed so well by deep &#039;thinkers&#039; of the past.&nbsp; Thankyou for it.</p><p>I also appreciate sowelu&#039;s reply too.&nbsp; &nbsp;Practical as always.&nbsp; &nbsp;I would just add that Spirit, as well as being a silent witness to our various internal and external experiences, is also the goad to physical action where necessary.&nbsp; I&#039;ve read the concept in many places, and practised it when at my best, that &quot;nothing matters&quot;.&nbsp; &nbsp;That is, &#039;nothing matters&#039; more than maintaining the internal state of divine harmony in all situations.&nbsp; This is the only state of consciousness that inclines a listening ear to the inner direction of Spirit no matter what is happening.&nbsp; &nbsp;Spirit is at the eye of every storm.&nbsp; Calm and unconditioned by the storm&#039;s external fury it sees clearly and knows what we must do or not do.&nbsp; It commands us &#039;halt!&#039; when we would go and &#039;go!&#039; when we would not.&nbsp; It is often contrary to the demands of our emotional and mental nature.&nbsp; Refining all that will bring us to a perfection of union of soul to spirit.&nbsp; </p><p>Not many people much like the word it seems but &quot;obedience&quot; is an important ingredient to spiritual transcendance.&nbsp; &nbsp;Without maintaining inner attunement the inner direction to action can be missed as often as the inner direction to not act.&nbsp; &nbsp;Our conditioning and beliefs can play havoc with discerning that.&nbsp; &nbsp;That is why such a huge effort is expended by the manipulators in the world and in our own subconscious.&nbsp; &nbsp;To re- inforce limiting beliefs and conditioning is to prevent us taking the necessary action that Spirit would have us take.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=68531#p68531</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this was very insightful, and it made me look at a few things about myself and re-evaluate them... thanks a lot for posting this!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Pharos)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=68526#p68526</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I just mastered my lower self in about two minutes.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Bhang)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=68525#p68525</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>So I&#039;ve been thinking about this more lately and have begun writing a long essay/short book.&nbsp; The practices that I&#039;ve developed over the last two years are slightly different than what I wrote about before.&nbsp; </p><p>In terms of mastering my body I&#039;ve found three things to be helpful:</p><p>(1) <strong>Self-Care</strong>- Compassionately caring for my body.&nbsp; Getting enough rest, exercise, stretching, and eating right. </p><p>(2) <strong>Seniority</strong>- Having the willpower to deal constructively with addictions, unhealthy cravings, and lusts. </p><p>(3) <strong>Presence</strong>- Being grounded and present in my body.</p><p>In terms of mastering my emotions I&#039;ve found three things to be helpful (these are the same as before):</p><p>(1) <strong>Flow</strong>- Learning how to untie emotional knots and keep emotional energy running.</p><p>(2) <strong>Positivity</strong>- Disciplining yourself to withdraw your attention from negative emotions and consistently choose positive ones.</p><p>(3) <strong>Transmutation</strong>- Taking the time to do meditative work with particularly stubborn negative emotional energy and convert it into a good mood.</p><p>In terms of mastering my mind I&#039;ve found three things to be helpful:</p><p>(1) <strong>Inner Silence</strong>- Turning off the internal dialogue.</p><p>(2) <strong>Discernment</strong>- Honing the logical mind; teaching yourself to think thoroughly, eliminate bias, and recognize inconsistency.</p><p>(3) <strong>Equanimity</strong>- Learning when and how to let intuition guide you rather than reason, and learning how to apply both to a situation.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (dreamosis)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=26648#p26648</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I like to use this analogy when dealing with the mind/ego. It&#039;s like walking through a carnival and having the barkers yelling at you trying to get your attention, &quot;3 throws for a dollar, give it a try&quot;. Your inner Self knows that the games are rigged. In the ring toss, the block is wider than the ring. In the ball throw(knock over the target) there is a cinder block behind the target.&nbsp; But you don&#039;t go over and debate with the barker because you know it would be a waste of time. Besides, he&#039;s just doing his job, that&#039;s all he knows how to do. Instead you just smile and walk on past. You resist the temptation to waste your energy on a useless game for a worthless cupie doll.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (WEOPPOSEDECEPTION)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 04:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Soloflecks&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 05:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=26473#p26473</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I like the carriage analogy.&nbsp; Detachment from ego is necessary in order to make the &quot;soul&quot; connection.&nbsp; Ego is the door that blocks the two-way flow.&nbsp; I found that&nbsp; mentally stepping outside myself and becoming an impartial observer opened that door.&nbsp; In addition I expressed the desire to let soul through, for soul to look through my eyes and act through my body.&nbsp; I suppressed my mutinous ego so that the captain could take the wheel.&nbsp; Many wonderful things began to happen as I felt the veil lift.&nbsp; I understand now that adversities are allowed in order for us to learn and to experience letting spirit work through us.&nbsp; It&#039;s an amazing symbiotic relationship.</p><p>Then someone pointed me to The Four Agreements based on Toltec wisdom.&nbsp; It confirmed what I&#039;d discovered and made it easier.&nbsp; I highly recommend it as well as The Voice of Knowledge, both by Don Miguel Ruiz.&nbsp; I&#039;m sure most people who read the books have no idea the power this knowledge can unlock.</p><p><a href="http://www.miguelruiz.com/teachings/fouragreements.html">http://www.miguelruiz.com/teachings/fouragreements.html</a></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Soloflecks)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 17:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=26466#p26466</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Sowelu wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>...the witness self becomes primary. If the body is hungry, tired, &quot;wanting&quot;... allow and witness. If the mind spins... allow and witness. If emotions heighten, allow and witness. When questions arise, open and get curious, then listen.</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m glad you wrote that.&nbsp; As I reflected back on the thoughts I posted, I was thinking that there was larger process that I wasn&#039;t quite expressing.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Sowelu wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>...the witness self becomes primary.</p></blockquote></div><p>That&#039;s the larger process...The largest process. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />&nbsp; </p><p>Thank you.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (dreamosis)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 14:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the insights!&nbsp; Really helpful stuff.&nbsp; What a great esoteric metaphor . . . I may take the carriage for a peaceful ride tomorrow.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (RonD)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 06:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=26334#p26334</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Wow, another great post, dreamosis. Thanks! </p><p>Somewhere along the line I &quot;got it&quot; that Spirit/Source is <em>allowing</em>, and non-judgmental. So... in working to have &quot;spirit run the show&quot;, it made sense to me that it was important to &quot;be that&quot; myself. To emulate my mentor, so to speak. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> Again, the witness self becomes primary. If the body is hungry, tired, &quot;wanting&quot;... allow and witness. If the mind spins... allow and witness. If emotions heighten, allow and witness. When questions arise, open and get curious, then listen.</p><p>It works amazingly well. I guess in retrospect I realized that by doing that it actually accomplished a number of other things spoken of on the path, such as becoming sovereign (almost a by-product of this approach, really), detaching, and trusting. </p><p>There&#039;s a lot less &quot;efforting&quot; with this approach, too, because the allowing causes you to &quot;go with the flow&quot; rather than &quot;try&quot; anything or control anything. And suddenly it becomes clear that there is a silent, active intelligence to life, and infinite organizing power, that orchestrates events and circumstances perfectly suited to one&#039;s needed, proper edification.</p><p>And of course nothing goes smoothly and perfectly all the time, we have our hooks and snags, and then self-love (accepting with compassion for self), rather than self-hate (&quot;beating oneself up&quot; for the error, looking to &quot;fix&quot; the self, etc.), takes one a long way toward rectifying the footing and moving forward again. There&#039;s such a tendency to defer to the intellect, and as you mention, balancing is certainly a necessity.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Sowelu)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 04:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=26330#p26330</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>All right, my head is full of Fourth Way/Mouravieff right now.&nbsp; And I am trying to synthesize it all for myself.&nbsp; </p><p>I love the esoteric metaphor of the carriage, horse, driver and Master inside the carriage.</p><p>Carriage=body; house=emotional body; driver=mental body; Master=the spirit.&nbsp; </p><p>Different people at different levels have different parts of themselves in charge.&nbsp; Some let their body, their libido, their stomach, or their sense of pleasure or pain run the show.&nbsp; Some let their emotions dominate them (the ones who can&#039;t stop yammering about what so-and-so said to them at work).&nbsp; Some let their mind run the show (ex: the ones who disbelieve entirely in spiritual stuff).&nbsp; </p><p>Then there are those whose spirit runs the show.&nbsp; </p><p>The million dollar question: How does one do that?&nbsp; (The aim of all religions and spiritual systems).&nbsp; </p><p>Big topic here.</p><p>If becoming &quot;the Master,&quot; living life through the spirit instead of through the stomach, emotions or analyzer, is indeed a matter of shifting the locus of power away from the body, emotions and mind and into the inner, infinite self, as the metaphor suggests, then...there is a rough sort of map.&nbsp; </p><p>My current brainwaves about it: <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>(Mastering the...)</p><p><strong> BODY </strong></p><p>is (1) a question of <em> reconciling with your limitations </em>.&nbsp; Striving for perfect health can become an obsession and can shift attention away from the bigger picture.&nbsp; Even saints get sick.&nbsp; I think, maybe, the best move is to accept your body as it is and work around its limitations-- really care for your body so that your body (through disease) doesn&#039;t open you up to spiritual attack, set backs, or ennui.&nbsp; Reconciling with your limitations is compassionate health maintenance without going overboard.</p><p>(2) a question of <em> relaxation </em>; if the body is in Sympathetic Nervous system overload, it can be difficult for the spirit to communicate with it.&nbsp; Our culture--between traffic, caffeine, corn syrup, breaking news, flashing lights, etc.--is a recipe for tension.&nbsp; Learning to relax the body is key.&nbsp; There is a reason that spiritual experiences correlate with relaxed, trance states.</p><p>(3) a question of <em> having seniority over your sexuality </em>; if your sexuality owns you instead of the other way around, then the cart is before the horse.&nbsp; Seniority over your sexuality isn&#039;t about suppression or denial--it&#039;s about recognizing physical sexuality for what it is, a physical urge like hunger.&nbsp; It&#039;s about not confusing sex with higher love or happiness.&nbsp; If the mind/spirit becomes convinced that sex is love/happiness/the best pleasure, authority is handed over to the body.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </p><p><strong> EMOTIONS </strong></p><p>Mastering emotions is (1) a question of maintaining <em> flow </em>; repression, suppression, depression lead to indulgence--they create a &quot;dense charge&quot; that will eventually exert a pulling force on the attention and higher awareness may be lost in the resulting drama.</p><p>(2) a question of maintaining <em> positivity </em></p><p>(3) a question of learning how to <em> transmute </em> negative emotions into positive.</p><p><strong> INTELLECT </strong></p><p>Mastering the intellect is (1) a question of <em> quieting the mind </em></p><p>(2) a question of <em> educating the intellect </em>; learning to discern between faulty reasoning and sound reasoning.&nbsp; As long as you&#039;re unable to detect faulty reasoning (and/or without a strong intuition), you&#039;re susceptible to excursions into false beliefs.</p><p>(3) a question of <em> balancing the intellect </em> by including your feelings in decisions.&nbsp; As long as you exclude your feelings/heart from your decisions, you will be working against a part of yourself (be incoherent).</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 03:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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