<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom">
	<title type="html"><![CDATA[Noble Realms — Beware The Bearers of False Gifts]]></title>
	<link rel="self" href="https://forum.noblerealms.org/extern.php?action=feed&amp;tid=240&amp;type=atom" />
	<updated>2004-05-25T06:52:43Z</updated>
	<generator>PunBB</generator>
	<id>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=240</id>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Beware The Bearers of False Gifts]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2217#p2217" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I get a bad vibe from this alien-with-disk crop formation. Looks like these IM conversations and the lama pic (love lamas, though) and Hoagland history add up to this symbolic thought-form war or something. This sticks in my craw.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[SednaSphere]]></name>
				<uri>https://forum.noblerealms.org/profile.php?id=19</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2004-05-25T06:52:43Z</updated>
			<id>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2217#p2217</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Beware The Bearers of False Gifts]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2214#p2214" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Lyra for recommending I post this (wouldn&#039;t have crossed my mind otherwise), and for giving the Goro Adachi article link which contains some fascinating connections there. </p><p>The alien glyph crop circle came off as phony to me because of the binary language used to encode the message, and because the grey looked very cliche&#039; - seems someone tried very hard to push through the message. But if phony, then someone with some extreme technology must have been behind it. The C&#039;s confirm this and elaborate. </p><p>The pushiness (meaning non-subtlety) of the crop picture is typical of STS disinformation sources, whether it comes through manipulated nightly dreams, persuasion by matrix agents, etc... always pushy, hurried, and in some ways sloppy. Compare this to other crop circles that are subtle and perfect.</p><p>One thing the glyph message reminded me of is the zetatalk stuff where grays are presented as the good guys. If so, and the &quot;consortium&quot; is behind this, then toward what ends? If they want people to see the grays as good guys, then it must be in preparation of their open appearance, right? Or maybe just to dispell the growing uneasiness in the UFO community with the gray presence (see David Jacobs&#039; book The Threat for an example).</p><p>More things to notice about the alien crop picture -- there were some microwave towers around the field...perhaps they were used to do this. </p><p>Also, notice the style is identical to the chilbolton glyph:</p><p><a href="http://www.timestar.org/ccchilbolton.htm">http://www.timestar.org/ccchilbolton.htm</a></p><p>The chilbolton crop images were of a human face, and also of an altered version of a message once sent out by the Arecibo dish in the 70s to contact &#039;life out there&#039;.&nbsp; Interestingly, the altered version had, among other things:</p><p>1) a picture of a large headed alien instead of a human figure <br />2) a short list of chemical elements identical to the Arecibo message except for the additional inclusion of silicon<br />3) a hybrid DNA consisting of two different strands intertwined together, instead of two identical strands as in the original Arecibo message<br />4) a population figure of&nbsp; 8.4 billion instead of 4.3 billion - if this refers to human population, then by standard trends we won&#039;t reach 8.4 billion until around 2020. </p><p>All designed to be intriguing, but misleading, like the &quot;We OPpose deception&quot; message.</p><p>Prior to these, there was one crop circle consisting of a square of horizontal lines. This appears to be a test run for the technology. </p><p>Here&#039;s a good article at the Cass site about crop circles:</p><p><a href="http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/cropcircle.htm">http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/cropcircle.htm</a></p><p>I do think many crop circles are genuine and that they can offer knowledge somehow. The knowledge may not only be encoded in their geometric design, but in the very way the stalks are laid down.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[montalk]]></name>
				<uri>https://forum.noblerealms.org/profile.php?id=2</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2004-05-25T03:58:00Z</updated>
			<id>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2214#p2214</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Beware The Bearers of False Gifts]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2212#p2212" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Montalk!&nbsp; That&#039;s a highly relevant post.&nbsp; </p><p>I like the idea of the C&#039;s referring to &quot;real&quot; crop circles as thoughts from 6th density.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[wandering1]]></name>
				<uri>https://forum.noblerealms.org/profile.php?id=59</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2004-05-25T01:13:46Z</updated>
			<id>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2212#p2212</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Beware The Bearers of False Gifts]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2205#p2205" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Lyra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Tom/Montalk..........the C&#039;s session dated September 14, 2002 mentions this particular alien crop circle and the &quot;Beware of False Gifts&quot; message......would you be able to post the excerpt from the transcript where they talk about this since you have a link to the transcripts?</p></blockquote></div><p>Here it is:</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Q: (L) I want to ask about this crop circle supposedly that was created here on or around Aug. 15, 2002 and I guess the first thing I&#039;d like to ask is who done it?<br />A: It was produced via 4th density technology.<br />Q: (V) STS or STO 4th density technology?<br />A: STS.<br />Q: (L) Okay.&nbsp; You said via 4th density technology.&nbsp; However you did not say via 4th density beings...<br />A: Correct.&nbsp; There has been much advancement in 3D realm tech due to 4D interaction. <br />Q: (V) Between whom and 3rd density?<br />A: Consortium.<br />Q: (L) Well, I noticed that last year, on or about the same date, the crop circle appeared with the woman&#039;s face and the so called signal thing.&nbsp; Was that also the production of 4th density?<br />A: No.<br />Q: (L) I noticed also that Aug. 15 is, in fact, an ancient feast day of the Mother Goddess and therefore the appearance of the face last year was somewhat appropriate.&nbsp; This one, produced on almost - if not exactly - the same date, seems almost like it is a response to the face image last year.&nbsp; The message deciphered from this new crop circle is - and Ark has checked it and confirmed the deciphering - &quot;Beware the bearers of false gifts and their broken promises.&nbsp; Much pain but still time - and then an unknown word - there is good out there.&nbsp; We OPpose deception.&nbsp; Conduit closing. (bell sound).&quot;&nbsp; What is the meaning of this message?<br />A: The first thing that was intended was to demonize the crop circle phenomenon.&nbsp; The second thing was to give those who are susceptible the impression that their favorite gray aliens might be &quot;good guys.&quot;&nbsp; The third thing intended was to send a message of doubt directly to this room.<br />Q: (J) &#039;The conduit is closing.&#039;&nbsp; Since the C&#039;s have talked about creating a conduit since the beginning, they are trying to convince us that the conduit is closing.&nbsp; What was the garbled word, was it believe, or is it believe? <br />A: It was believe.&nbsp; However the glitch was due to the application of the technology.&nbsp; This provides the clue to the STS source.<br />Q: (J) Okay so their amateur fumbling caused the glitch.&nbsp; (A) The guy is probably the glitch in the software.&nbsp; There was a noise...<br />A: Wishful thinking will get ya every time.<br />Q: (L) So they were wishfully thinking that they had everything perfect and they didn&#039;t. (A) Still I want to know if physical characteristics of this circle were matched with the physical characteristics of what would be considered authentic crop circle?<br />A: They can get close.&nbsp; But again, there are differences.&nbsp; These can be detected if one is aware and looking.<br />Q: (J) Is there any criteria you can give us to measure against, is there anything in particular to look for?&nbsp; Or would it pop out as something strange that doesn&#039;t make sense in a crop circle if you examine it?&nbsp; Or is there actual...&nbsp; <br />A: One thing to look for would be growth disruptions to the area.&nbsp; Real circles do not disrupt the creative principle.<br />Q:&nbsp; (J) Now would this be crop circles created by STS, STO, or both?<br />A:&nbsp; STO.<br />Q: (J) So STO doesn&#039;t disrupt the life cycle but, if it were STS then it would change it.&nbsp; That would make sense.&nbsp; Well, there again their effect: the coldness, the burning, the whole negativity of it, would logically disrupt the life cycle.&nbsp; As for the way that they do this: you say that it was directed from 4th density.&nbsp; Do they actually come in and have any kind of physical apparatus in the vicinity?<br />A: It was not done from 4D.<br />Q: (J) I&#039;m not talking about the one that we&#039;re talking about this time, I&#039;m talking about when STO creates a crop circle do they have a physical...<br />A: Real crop circles represent thoughts from 6th density unified thought realm.<br />Q: (J) Okay, and so that&#039;s why they don&#039;t disrupt the growth; because they&#039;re using thought forms as opposed to STS technology, either the 3D or 4D or what not.&nbsp; Have any crop circles been made by 4th density STS directly?<br />A: Very few and quite ineptly up to this point.<br />Q: (V) Can you tell us an example of another one, if there is only a few?<br />A: One comes up as a series of &quot;symbols&quot; similar to occult cipher.&nbsp; Check the data.<br />Q: (L) I think I&#039;ve seen one like that.&nbsp; I noticed it because it was so different from all the purported authentic ones.&nbsp; This suggests, of course, that Rosemary Ellen Guiley, the woman who writes for Fate Magazine, and who claims that crop circles are produced by secret government technology, may have an &#039;inside line&#039; to the Consortium.&nbsp; I thought so.&nbsp; So start looking at crop circles. (A) Well you remember there was a crop circle that they said it was Greek or something...(L) Anything else on this crop circle?&nbsp; Alright we&#039;re done with the crop circle.</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[montalk]]></name>
				<uri>https://forum.noblerealms.org/profile.php?id=2</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2004-05-24T21:09:26Z</updated>
			<id>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2205#p2205</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Beware The Bearers of False Gifts]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2199#p2199" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi wandering1 (and everybody),</p><p>Here&#039;s an article written by Goro Adachi which gets into the crop circle you mention with the alien, and the &quot;Beware the Bearer of False Gifts&quot; thing.&nbsp; &nbsp;This article is about many different things, which all tie together, including this crop circle, and may help to get to the bottom of your questions regarding &quot;What might these false gifts be and what would be some potential negative effects?&quot;</p><p>This article is the first in a series of 6 that have so far been written entitled The Endgame Series, and I think you just might dig them based on the things you talk about in your posts.&nbsp; &nbsp;Goro doesn&#039;t have all the answers, but his articles are definately food for thought, and contain a lot of interesting material.&nbsp; (Tom/Montalk..........the C&#039;s session dated September 14, 2002 mentions this particular alien crop circle and the &quot;Beware of False Gifts&quot; message......would you be able to post the excerpt from the transcript where they talk about this since you have a link to the transcripts?&nbsp; I think that would be something interesting to add here........)</p><p>The link:<br /><a href="http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/endgame.htm">http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/endgame.htm</a></p><p>If you enjoy this article, check out the other 5 in the series here:</p><p><a href="http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/">http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/</a></p><p>You&#039;ll see the Endgame articles listed on the left side of the page.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>Enjoy....</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[lyra]]></name>
				<uri>https://forum.noblerealms.org/profile.php?id=23</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2004-05-24T19:44:03Z</updated>
			<id>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2199#p2199</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Beware The Bearers of False Gifts]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2184#p2184" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>From observing the layers of symbolism and synchronicity in history I now believe these are indications of hyperdimensional activities that are manipulative and therefore not in humanity&#039;s best interest.&nbsp; Crop circles may also be the visual representation of hyperdimensional activities.&nbsp; If so, I think we should be cautious about believing any messages received in that manner.&nbsp; Examine, yes; believe, no.&nbsp; That&#039;s the same advice I&#039;d give about anything, really.&nbsp; In a world of lies..............ya know the rest.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Soloflecks]]></name>
				<uri>https://forum.noblerealms.org/profile.php?id=108</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2004-05-24T16:15:56Z</updated>
			<id>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2184#p2184</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Beware The Bearers of False Gifts]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2152#p2152" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Very clever.</p><p>A case could be made that TV is an instrument of mental and emotional conditioning on both conscious and subliminal levels.</p><p>Also, a sedentary TV-watching lifestyle can contribute to conditions that lead to disease and death.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[wandering1]]></name>
				<uri>https://forum.noblerealms.org/profile.php?id=59</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2004-05-24T02:07:21Z</updated>
			<id>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2152#p2152</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Beware The Bearers of False Gifts]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2151#p2151" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of an old question: If it were scientifically established that watching television caused cancer, would you hear about it on the evening news? It&#039;s a question I still use to spark a thought in anti-conspiracy skeptics. Two mottos I live by are: &quot;There&#039;s no such thing as a free lunch&quot; and &quot;Everything You Know Is Wrong&quot;. The first protects from most con games, the second represents the &#039;beginning of wisdom&#039;.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[aaronfirebrand]]></name>
			</author>
			<updated>2004-05-24T02:02:16Z</updated>
			<id>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2151#p2151</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Beware The Bearers of False Gifts]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2150#p2150" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I find this phrase interesting:</p><p>&quot;Beware the Bearers of False Gifts&quot;</p><p>Of course you can track this back to the famous Trojan horse (which had hidden soldiers inside).</p><p>There was a crop circle formation in 2002 which had the following message in the circular patterns when translated using ASCII code:</p><p>&quot;Beware the bearers of FALSE gifts &amp; their BROKEN PROMISES. Much PAIN but still time. EELRIJUE. There is GOOD out there. We OPpose DECEPTION. Conduit CLOSING [bell sound]&quot;</p><p>I don&#039;t know if the formation was &quot;real&quot; or &quot;faked&quot;.&nbsp; Either way, someone put a lot of effort into it.&nbsp; The encoded message was next to an &quot;alien-looking&quot; head.&nbsp; You can see pictures at these links:</p><br /><p><a href="http://www.korncirkler.dk/cccorner/pitt.html">http://www.korncirkler.dk/cccorner/pitt.html</a></p><p><a href="http://home.clara.net/lucypringle/photos/2002/aug.html">http://home.clara.net/lucypringle/photos/2002/aug.html</a></p><p>Now I&#039;m going to engage in some speculation.&nbsp; What might these false gifts be and what would be some potential negative effects?</p><p>We might see a scenario of rapidly rising oil and natural gas prices which leads to the collapse of energy grids.&nbsp; People want heat, light, cooling, and most of all TV!</p><p>Let&#039;s say millions of people lose their electricity.&nbsp; The government then announces that it has just discovered zero-point energy and they are giving away free devices that you can put in your home to power all your stuff.</p><p>Except these particular devices have been manufactured to do bad things like:<br />- mental and emotional influencing <br />- create condictions that lead over time to disease and death </p><p>People start to suspect something but all official studies indicate that the devices are harmless - just a thought.</p><p>So, if anyone every offers you &quot;free&quot; devices just remember that the offer may really be too good to be true.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[wandering1]]></name>
				<uri>https://forum.noblerealms.org/profile.php?id=59</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2004-05-24T01:36:07Z</updated>
			<id>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2150#p2150</id>
		</entry>
</feed>
