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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Funny how hard we try to pick apart something that isn&#039;t even really real. I&#039;m referring to Holographic Universe on that one.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>troydungeon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><span style="color: red"><strong>Like I said before, wake up people (you too Montalk, our solar system&#039;s sun is a FREAKIN&#039; CUBE!!!, and it is sucking your energy bone dry).</strong></span><br /><strong><span style="color: blue"><a href="http://www.TheRealMatrix.com">www.TheRealMatrix.com</a></span></strong></p></blockquote></div><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/63/Sun_Microsystems_Logo.svg/800px-Sun_Microsystems_Logo.svg.png" alt="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/63/Sun_Microsystems_Logo.svg/800px-Sun_Microsystems_Logo.svg.png" /></span> Knowing the significance of some other corporate logos such as these:</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2878/1353/400/Signs2.jpg" alt="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2878/1353/400/Signs2.jpg" /></span></p><p>Seeing this logo for Sun Microsystems recently reminded me of the cubic sun proposition. Especially in light of troydungeon&#039;s <a href="http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=2703">quoting of the Contact article about Pleiadean starships &#039;transporting&#039; Earth/Shan into orbit around the Coeleno star.</a></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>troydungeon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Light Workers (&quot;The Galactic Light Federation&quot; as some may call them) are the ones speeding up the sun. They do it by using their sun cruiser ships (called &quot;arraa-tons&quot;). And, they are doing it because they want the sun to blow up, and thereby destory Darkness&#039;s universe (we are currently trapped inside of Darkness&#039;s universe). They go around to each sun and do this. That is why you see burned-out suns in other places of the universe. So, in the big picture, what they are doing is actually good (or &quot;positive&quot; as Montalk would say).</p></blockquote></div><p>Maybe the transport to the next star up was necessary for the species survival?</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Aprogas wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Maybe you have not been tricked by the dark side to come here. Maybe you are the dark side.</p></blockquote></div><p>That&#039;s almost exactly along the lines of something I was thinking about it - that we (as a thoroughly controlled race living here) could be experiencing this as some natural consequence of neglecting a part of our own evolution (like becoming nieve instead of wise in some respect) therby allowing ourseves to be decieved into [WHATEVER]. Yes, this is loop logic if one assumes they were decieved into being programmed to be nieve . . .</p><p>Okay, so not that we were &#039;the dark side&#039; but that we were the (evolutionary) regressives in the sense that we were experiencing the effects of allowing ourselves to evolve while leaving behind certain aspects of ouselves . . . or the effects of not evolving altogether . . .</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-10-16T12:28:28Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you have not been tricked by the dark side to come here. Maybe you are the dark side.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>TroyD, I would like to thank you for joining and sharing the information. It has opened some new avenues of exploration for me - and to me that is worth a lot. It has also presented me with a few new questions. One of them is - If this universe was created by the dark side and we are now ensnared in the ensuing illusory matrix reality that is this &#039;dark universe&#039; - you say our objective is to escape? Wouldn&#039;t this indicate that we were indeed decieved by the dark side to come here in the first place? And is there any reason why our objective wouldn&#039;t be to knowingly incarnate here for the purpose of transmuting the &#039;darkside&#039; back into the &#039;real&#039; universe of God&#039;s infinite love and joy?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-10-15T00:10:29Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Energy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So while some may see it rotating so fast that it appears to look like a cylinder, others may see it moving so slow that it looks like a rotating pen..?&nbsp; Would this be correct?</p><p>-E</p></blockquote></div><p>The answer is yes but it depends on how the pen is rotated.</p><p>Let&#039;s look at the following scenarios and assume speeds so high that the human eye cannot tell is a pen.&nbsp; The answers given below are based on at least one trip (revolution or orbit) around the rotating pen.</p><p>1.&nbsp; Pen is fixed at one point the other is rotating in a circular motion.</p><p>Ans.&nbsp; A cone.&nbsp; If we are allow depth perception then it would be a a hollow cone (not solid)</p><p>2.&nbsp; Both ends of the pen are rotating in circular motion and the pivot point is located halfway the length of the pen.</p><p>Ans. 2 cones touching each other at the very tip.&nbsp; The cones will be hollow if depth perception is allowed.</p><p>3. the entire pen is rotating on an axis that is parallel to the length of the pen.</p><p>Ans. Hollow cylinder.&nbsp; This is a good one.&nbsp; When you reach the point on your orbit that is looking straight into either the tip or the end of the pen you will be able to see through the imaginary hollow cylinder and see stars on the other side.</p><p>I know anything is possible but with what I know at this time I cannot accept the theory of the sun being a cube.&nbsp; It does not make sense to me but like I said before I am basing my conclussion on conventional science.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Energy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I think I understand what troy is trying to say.&nbsp; That what we are seeing is an optical illusion, and science&#039;s explanation, though logical in foundation and application, is also wrong because it is based on an illusion of sight.&nbsp; </p><p>Here&#039;s something that may help:</p><p>Take a regular pen and hold it in your right hand.&nbsp; Place your pointer finger about the top of the pen, and your thumb under the pen.&nbsp; Now, place it in front of your eyes and start moving your wrists in a circular motion.&nbsp; The faster you move your wrists, the more it appears as though a circle is being spun before your very eyes.&nbsp; If the pen was moving fast enough through space and time, it would no longer appear as a pen, but a rapidly spinning cylinder.</p><p>-E</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes, this true if you remain fixed in one location.&nbsp; The 2D projection image as perceived by your eyes would be a circular figure.&nbsp; Now, imagine the pen doing the same motion as you described above but in this case you are rotating around the pen (something other than your wrist is causing the motion on the pen) What do you see?&nbsp; You&#039;ll see a moving pen.&nbsp; Read my previous e-mail on which I discuss cubes and compounded cubes rotation.&nbsp; You&#039;&#039;ll see what I mean!</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-10-14T14:18:10Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>troydungeon wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>whywhywhy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Anyway, the point I am trying to make is that for the 2D image to resemble a circle (what the human eye would see from planet Earth) the cube must have to rotate along many different axis.&nbsp; It would be similar to a tumbling movement on which the axis change constantly.&nbsp; &nbsp;I find this rather impossible, but what the hell all I know is what I read on the papers.</p></blockquote></div><p>Dude, you got to read more carefully. The sun does not rotate on an &quot;axis.&quot; It rotates on a SINGLE POINT.&nbsp; So, it is not as if it is spinning in one direction. It is spinning about a single point and going in all kinds of directions.---Please try to visualize that image right now.---Can you image how FREAKY that would look like. It would look so &quot;devilish and satanic&quot; (for lack of a better term). These crazy-spinning suns are the real foundation of Darkness and this universe.</p></blockquote></div><p>Dude, I believe that you are so convinced of this insane theory (cubic sun) that you are the one not reading what is posted.&nbsp; Read carefully, I said &quot;It would be similar to a tumbling movement on which the axis change constantly&quot; meaning there has to be a focal point (yes, a single point of rotation otherwise the whole thing will just lose its position and shape in space).&nbsp; &nbsp;Something&#039;s got to give.&nbsp; I know that I won&#039;t be able to convince you out of this one, but if you would read the following:</p><p><a href="http://science.nasa.gov/ssl/pad/solar/sunturn.htm">http://science.nasa.gov/ssl/pad/solar/sunturn.htm</a></p><p>I know, you are going to say that this is just human/standard science a bunch of lies.&nbsp; We all believe what we want to believe........................and so it goes!</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>troydungeon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><span style="color: red"><strong><br />As always, if you have a question, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO is simply head on over to <a href="http://www.xeeatwelve.com">www.xeeatwelve.com</a>.</strong></span></p></blockquote></div><div class="quotebox"><cite>www.xeeatwelve.com wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>All suns (stars) are cubes. Darkness intentionally designed the universe like this because on a metaphysical level, cubes (or more specifically, their 90-degree right angles) create strife, confrontation, and confusion. This is why the Illuminati worship the sun.</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, I&#039;ve been trying to figure the reason why the ancients worshiped the sun. Things seem to be getting clearer . . .</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-10-14T02:04:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: The answer to how our yellow sun turned white. (Wake up people)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=46648">http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar … read=46648</a></p><p>Article that punches sufficient holes in Amitakh Stanford&#039;s credibility. Not that most of you NRers need it, you seem to be able to discern bunk and such quite easily (especially when its that blatant). I went on the Xeeatwelve myself and read a few articles. All I can say is WOW! I recognize pieces of info that ring true to me, but its just slapped together without a shred of evidence or on very little support.&nbsp; Some good info (Reptilians do exist, as do the Annunaki, and we are being controlled), but the theory she develops with it is both illogical and dangerous. Are we really expected to believe that we are all non-viable beings worthy only of destruction? Destruction by &quot;light-beings&quot; no less? I don&#039;t believe it. <br />One thing that rubbed me the wrong way <em>immediately</em> upon entering the site is that there is no about me section or anything. When I read something, I wanna know who said and why they think that. My suspicions were further confirmed by this article, but please make up your own minds and do your own research.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>That baby looks sinister.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-10-14T00:25:44Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>You freaking idiots. The sun is not round OR square - it&#039;s kinda spikey looking.</p><p>THIS is what the sun looks like:</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.theedgeofinfinity.com/images/teletubbies.jpg" alt="http://www.theedgeofinfinity.com/images/teletubbies.jpg" /></span></p><p>Haven&#039;t you seen the Teletubbies? <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/roll.png" width="15" height="15" alt="roll" /></p><p>Jeez, trying to wake all you guys up is like talking to a brick wall sometimes! <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/lol.png" width="15" height="15" alt="lol" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-10-14T00:08:33Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Neomatrix wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>troydungeon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><span style="color: red"><strong>First, take note that the sun of the inner earth is really made up of 4 cubes. And, the sun of the outer earth is 1 cube. They look like spheres because the cubes are moving at a high velocity. ... Thus, that is why the Elite worship the sun--because it is a cube; and this cube brings strife to the masses whom the Elite rule over. And, pyramids are really ascending squares.</strong></span></p></blockquote></div><p>This is pure nonsense, lacking even a grounding in junior school-level physics. What you are talking about would require the sun to be spinning at such an extreme velocity that it would tear itself to pieces.</p></blockquote></div><p>Under known science.&nbsp; What is the sun composed of (actual sample)?&nbsp; Can it appear to be one thing but in actuality be another?&nbsp; How is it bound together?&nbsp; Is there no technology that could compensate for this force and allow the sun to be held together?&nbsp; I know this is going to a point where it&#039;s extremely agnostic, but it&#039;s not totally out of the realm of possibility.&nbsp; The other end of the spectrum is to ask how this information came to the persons claiming this.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-10-13T23:57:58Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>whywhywhy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Anyway, the point I am trying to make is that for the 2D image to resemble a circle (what the human eye would see from planet Earth) the cube must have to rotate along many different axis.&nbsp; It would be similar to a tumbling movement on which the axis change constantly.&nbsp; &nbsp;I find this rather impossible, but what the hell all I know is what I read on the papers.</p></blockquote></div><p><span style="color: red"><strong>Dude, you got to read more carefully. The sun does not rotate on an &quot;axis.&quot; It rotates on a SINGLE POINT.&nbsp; So, it is not as if it is spinning in one direction. It is spinning about a single point and going in all kinds of directions.---Please try to visualize that image right now.---Can you image how FREAKY that would look like. It would look so &quot;devilish and satanic&quot; (for lack of a better term). These crazy-spinning suns are the real foundation of Darkness and this universe.</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><strong>Mind you, the sun is spinning SOOOOOO fast that it can rotate in different directions and <em>still</em> go fast enough for you not to see it changing directions.---Now that is REALLY freaky!</strong></span></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-10-13T23:51:16Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>troydungeon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><span style="color: red"><strong>First, take note that the sun of the inner earth is really made up of 4 cubes. And, the sun of the outer earth is 1 cube. They look like spheres because the cubes are moving at a high velocity. ... Thus, that is why the Elite worship the sun--because it is a cube; and this cube brings strife to the masses whom the Elite rule over. And, pyramids are really ascending squares.</strong></span></p></blockquote></div><p>This is pure nonsense, lacking even a grounding in junior school-level physics. What you are talking about would require the sun to be spinning at such an extreme velocity that it would tear itself to pieces.</p>]]></content>
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