Or, it may have been using stealth tech.

And it wasn't like it was at a higher elevation, it's just the plane wasn't there.

http://www.lightwatcher.com/chemtrails/patents.html

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel … amp;page=2

Thanks
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Ah, the things we do to amuse ourselves.

Tom, you mentioned that they like to spray right before it rains.......maybe there is some cause and effect going on here.  Again, I don't know but maybe it has something to do with weather control. 

I have over 100 photos as well.   I don't bother taking them any more.  What is the point?  I see them and I'm not trying to prove anything.  I don't really see the need to post them as plenty have already been posted.  I don't want to go to the trouble of putting them on a website as that seems to be the only way to post photos here.  If there is an easier way that doesn't require posting (directing) to a website then I would be happy to post them if that will make a difference.

I don't see how it will though.  As my Grandfather used to say:  "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him think."  As Lyra said very early in this thread, "Just look up".

Cheers!

Winston

Boy are we off topic or what?

Actually I have photos from about fifty different shoots of those chemtrails. 
So my total photos must be more than a hundred or so.  And growing weekly!

Thanks for the correction.  I used to spend a couple of weeks a year each summer with my grandparents and great grandparents in KY. when I was a kid. (60's)

One of my jobs was to wash tinfoil (as they called it) for recycling.  I guess it was actually aluminum foil....they called it tinfoil.  I guess that just stuck with me.  Today kids think that recycling is a new thing.  They didn't have exposure to people that grew up in or were already adults during the depression appparently.  Remember jars full of buttons?  Remember rubber band balls?  How about jars of bacon grease?  Ball jars and canning?

I had a great aunt who would take the plastic wrap from loaves of bread and we would cut it into little strips and roll it around wire and stick it into the cracks between the slats in the floor in her "back room" to keep it insulated and less drafty.

Once at my grandparents house I was sleepwalking and my grandmother caught me and put me back in bed.  When she told my grandfather about it in the morning at breakfast she recounted that I said I needed to go outside and get the bacon.  My grandfather said,  "Why in the hell did you stop him??"

Anyone know what a "back room" is??* 

Cheers!

Winston

*that's right...an outhouse.

That is until one day in June or July in 2002. I was returning from a blast thru some local twisties with 2 friends, one driving, and 2 of us on bikes. traveling west from Rome NY, I happened to look up, sure enough there's one laying it down. I have been to many airshows, know quite a bit about aviation and CONTRAILS, yes
those wispy little actual vapor trails that follow usually no more than 6-8 plane-lengths behind and vanish.

So I'm trying to keep one eye on this guy and one on the road- I reach over and flick my buddy on the helmet and point up, we watched intermittently for another minute or so- then poof, trail off.  That was my mega AHA moment, because about 10- 15 seconds later, trail is back on- and my buddy's face was obscured somewhat by the helmet- but I know him well, and the look on his face was half petrified, half -holyshit- ya it's real.

The planes around here work east-west almost exclusively, which is why we were able to watch for over 5 minutes, as the one passed from about noon position overhead, to far ahead of us.

I have pictures from mid to late 2003, nearly 100 of them, a few where they turned midday sun into a pseudo solar ecliptic effect, very unnerving. Have also had many occasios to look at some thru a telescope, ones I have seen are either unmarked white, or lightish blue, NO windows. Many I have seen have more trails than engines, or less than engines. I have not needed any more evidence since that day in '02, but I sure have seen more....                                                                       J

I've got at least 50 photos of chemtrails that I've taken in the last 3 years.
All done with disposable cameras that I keep in the car and on my bicycle when
I'm riding.  They like to spray right before it rains so the shit will come down onto
us, get on us, get in the ground water and make everybody sick. 

I look up at the sky too.  A lot.  Most people don't.  Most people are so disconnected
from their environment and the earth that they wouldn't know the f*cking difference.

Go ahead, mess with your Ipod while driving.  Talk on the phone while driving.
Look at your phone pictures and read your text messages so you won't have to
acknowledge anyone else.  Listen to those tinny little ringtones and groove to
itunes on your mp3 that have been stripped of all meaningful frequencies. 
You idiots.  Go join the army.  We need more cannon fodder.

Tom Paine  (in rant mode)

Since you started this thread you  have been presented with photos, videos, eyewitnesses and news videos all acknowledging that chemtrails exist and you still state, “I don’t believe in chemtrails’ and, “it looks like jet fuel to me”.   For you to say you “I don’t believe in chemtrails” is just ridiculous.  It's not a matter of belief.  This makes it difficult to take your “debate” seriously.  This is what inspired my sarcasm.  I should have been more clear and straightforward.  However, you do seem to have already made up your mind.

In order to debate a topic it needs to be organized.  For example, many people can’t get past the fact that 911 was an inside job because they can’t break it down and deal with just one aspect at time, such as why did wtc7 fall?  Rather than doing that many people start with the bigger questions of who was behind it if it was controlled demolition rather than just looking at wtc7 and taking the evidence into consideration before putting the cart before the horse so to speak.  With that approach it becomes more difficult to get at the truth  That’s what I’m asking you to do here: Acknowledge that we have a phenomenon here called chemtrails. 

The point I was trying to make was that the discussion should be about why we have chemtrails rather than whether we have chemtrails.

For the record, I don’t know why we have them.  If you lived where I do and just looked up everyday there would be no debate in your mind either.  Chemtrails are a fact.  They are being sprayed.  Why they are being sprayed is a question that I do think about.  I've read all the conspiracy theory stuff about the why of this phenomenon from Morgellon's to dumbing us down to lowering our immune systems to they are trying to stop global warming, etc.  Quite frankly none of these theories offer me enough evidence to buy into.  Maybe there are fragments of truth in more than one.  Maybe they are all way off track.   I still don't know why they are spraying us and I doubt anyone here does either.   I doubt that it's for our own good........But I don’t know…..

ANALOGY:  Just because there are no squirrels in your backyard doesn’t mean that mine is not full of them.  Squirrels exist whether you believe in them or not.  So do chemtrails.  I see both on a regular basis.

Again, I’m sorry for the sarcasm earlier.  I should have been more direct. 

As to why squirrels exist….well that’s anyone’s guess.

Cheers!

Winston

P.S.  If my 911 was an inside job analogy doesn't fit into your mind frame of the world either then please just write me off as a nut job and don't bother responding.  Me and my tin foil hat won't take it personally. 

Now why don't we start a serious thread to debate whether or not the earth is flat....or whether or not wheels are round.....

Perhaps if these issues became popular, among the conspiracist  community, you would jump on the bandwagon too without any thought?

"The time has come," the Walrus said,
"To talk of many things:
Of shoes--and ships--and sealing-wax--
Of cabbages--and kings--
And why the sea is boiling hot--
And whether pigs have wings."

Cheers!

Winston

As for the fuel dumping thing...with gasoline prices this high do you really believe there is that much "fuel dumping" going on? Don't you also find it odd to see upwards of 4-5 jets in the same area dumping large amounts of fuel? I guess a put it in perspective question is "how long can a fuel dump stream be?"

p.s. -There's no debate, just look up !