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			<description><![CDATA[<p>eyes see what the ego seeks..</p><br /><p>dualism is both defeatist and dangerous - rising beyond this mentality is necessary for progress, imo</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 08:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Montalk, sorry, but I gotta call you out!]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=23925#p23925</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#039;s not a battle with light/darkness (good/evil) per say, but a programming trick to make us somehow get duped into a mode that tricks us into using a method that gets us stuck into a loop of sorts,&nbsp; repeating itself over and over again?&nbsp; Just a thought...</p><p>Recently, and just by synchronicity, I observed and really NOTICED that true humor/laughter seemed to be a &quot;psychic flack vest&quot;,&nbsp; somehow raising our frequency or our true nature.&nbsp; This is difficult for me to put into words, but the feeling is like an AHH-HAAA moment.&nbsp; When this happens, seems that negative occurances pop up to distroy/crush the increased frequency (turning it backward/opposite.)&nbsp; </p><p>While enduring the ever present road rage to-ing and from-ing, a license plate struck me as a reminder:&nbsp; Message was BHPYLAF (be happy laugh).&nbsp; The very next day another license plate read LAFBHPY!!!!!!!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/yikes.png" width="15" height="15" alt="yikes" /></p><p>This just struck me as pretty odd, but as of late sync&#039;s seem to be popping up at an alarming rate.&nbsp; Don&#039;t wanna jump to false/trick conclusions, but all and all one wonders what&#039;s around the bend&nbsp; the next day or week...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 16:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Montalk, sorry, but I gotta call you out!]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=23903#p23903</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well put Montalk. I generally agree with that, and I like the hero-myth reference <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> . Make sure your darkside doesn&#039;t become your &quot;Achilles heal&quot; so to speak...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 13:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Montalk, sorry, but I gotta call you out!]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=23884#p23884</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m reminded of a couple quotes:</p><p>1) &quot;It is perilous to study too deeply the arts of the Enemy, for good or for ill.&quot; (Elrond, aka Agent Elf, in Lord of the Rings). </p><p>2) &quot;Be careful when fighting dragons that you do not become one.&quot; (probably a fortune cookie)</p><p>From everything I&#039;ve read concerning the higher realms, STS and STO in their pure states are like oil and water. This means just as Neomatrix said, that an entity of light must have some darkness within to directly engage entities of darkness. </p><p>The question is whether fighting is necessary, or whether an indirect method would be more effective. In other words, how does fighting against something compare to striving for something else.&nbsp; The latter is how a &quot;lightsider&quot; can catalyze change without directly fighting the &quot;darksiders&quot; - by empowering avenues of freedom instead of destroying the sources of deception and oppression.</p><p>I know some people who feel justified in using lies, deception, character assassination, and other underhanded methods to get back at those they think are matrix agents. For them, the ends justify the means. Of course it doesn&#039;t take much for them to become misdirected in their persecutions and thereby attack innocents, meaning they themselves become the very thing they tried to fight against in the first place. Like the US fighting terrorism only to end up killing more than extremists ever could.</p><p>So the trick, when needing to use some darkness in order to fight darkness, is to keep a tight leash on it, to have transcended it within, and to place it entirely in subordination to one&#039;s higher/divine faculties. Then it&#039;s an Art of War thing, knowing your enemy because you can think like them without becoming so absorbed that you also acquire their weaknesses. </p><p>There are so many myths embodying this theme. Achilles becoming near invincible after bathing in the blood of a dragon... plus all the modern versions like Neo, Harry Potter, Luke Skywalker, Riddick, etc... </p><p>I believe that cunning entities who defect to the polarity of balance make the best warriors...they keep their intelligence, strength, and agility but place these in service to love, truth, and freedom. Maybe battle becomes their path of redemption.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (montalk)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 06:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=23880#p23880</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Auendove wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Are you saying that you&#039;ve heard in an astral or OBE event, any obscure type of&nbsp; event wherein one is having.... ummm, say a hypodermic needle shoved into their neck, that if one just reaches out and hugs the neg perp that they&#039;ll turn and run before injecting hyperdimensional smack into them?</p></blockquote></div><p>LOL, nono. That&#039;s not what I meant. Like I said, you can&#039;t fight the darkness without employing its techniques. If you&#039;re an over-the-top Love &#039;n&#039; Light type, then chances are the thought of employing techiques from the &#039;dark side&#039; probably wouldn&#039;t sit too well, right? It would be like a Jedi employing Sith powers in order to fight a Sith. The Jedi might well kick the Sith&#039;s butt across the galaxy by doing so, but you can be damned sure that Yoda would probably have him/her kicked out of the Jedi Order for even daring to stray down the dark path. Which goes back to me saying, you can&#039;t fight the darkness without employing its techniques. And if the thought of doing that is just too much for you to bear, then you might as well try hugging those darksiders to death because conflict is not even an option for you.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Neomatrix)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 05:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=23872#p23872</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Risen, and all,</p><p><img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> I have taken no offense by your post Risen, yet would like to make some comments... as one who is/has been an etheric warrior. My post is spun off of your words, though is not at all directed at you in particular. </p><p>And, welcome to the board Risen! <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/cool.png" width="15" height="15" alt="cool" /></p><p>The subject matter on this thread has sparked me up a tad, even more than Mars retro in Taurus (and me with Mars in Taurus in opposition to a Venus in Scorpio... life is never dull at my pad <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> ). </p><p>Light energy, dark energy, personal energies, polarities--all these are experiences I&#039;ve been taking a real concerted interpersonal look at for weeks, even months now. Today, I&#039;ve looked at this a little more in depth. As I&#039;ve said a couple of times on the board recently, I&#039;ve been looking to transmute my own personal warrior energy, like it&#039;s a burden and needs to be dealt with... I haven&#039;t yet succeeded, nor am convinced I should, and even think this for understanding neutrality to a greater extent than I before have. Even given thinking it&#039;s in my very best interest to do so.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Risen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The &quot;warrier&quot; bit is an easy one to fall for -- look how well it worked for the military for so many years.&nbsp; Ah yes, glorious warrior.&nbsp; Don&#039;t fall for these cheap mind tricks, its just another way of getting you to pick a side, to polarize.</p></blockquote></div><p>No, actually it&#039;s not an easy one to fall for when one is just a little woman on the planet such as myself, it rather seems most unlikely. At times, for me its just seemed a ridiculous coupling. If it weren&#039;t for many physical manifestations of battling &quot;dark forces&quot; occurring over the years within my physical environment and on my physical body I would never believe my person to be what I&#039;m capable of being outside the 3D realm of experience... and kwap, that&#039;s just the physical stuff. </p><p>There&#039;s such a difference in presence and essence, and confidence and competence, between myself in the here and now, and that part of me that is somehow elsewhere an etheric warrior. As well, the etheric warrior has a number of times brought a depth of understanding to me about the tragedy that is warring like we do in 3D Land, even beyond what I have already deeply unconditionally felt about war. I have at times felt an incredible sense of remorse and sadness from this aspect of myself for <em>having</em> to fight. True, there&#039;s not a lick of shame implied in there, nor should there be, but there&#039;s no glory either <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> . And it&#039;s so not about picking sides... at least this particular etheric warrior is not about picking sides and inviting polarization.</p><p>But, you see, that&#039;s just the bass-ackwards thing about it... I am so a lover and not a fighter. I don&#039;t like to fight... I don&#039;t even like to yell, and really dislike another yelling at me or around me. When I do get angry I rarely lash out, I rarely throw things, I even more rarely exact revenge... <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/roll.png" width="15" height="15" alt="roll" /> I freaking get frustrated and sob... what a weenie, eh? And therein lies the rub of being a little woman on the planet being aware of carting around a warrior spirit, and something I&#039;ve recently learned on my concerted course to neutralize my warrior self... and maybe why it&#039;s not such a good idea to do as much: etheric battling is not about 3D emotions like anger or power or control, like the reasons a &quot;military&quot; war is waged. And yes, my own personal darkness creates the shadows in my light, and sometimes my 3D perspective is that light will eventually overcome the dark, and All will exist in a refined state of enlightenment as One.... but, either I&#039;m losin&#039; that lovin&#039; feeling or it&#039;s just not as &lt;bleeping&gt; simple as all that. I really don&#039;t think anybody has that sharp of a bead on this one/One (and now I&#039;m not meaning to offend anyone either)... how flippin&#039; can they? We live in a state of illusion that some, including myself, are finding is definitely entering a hyper-state of polarizing activity. </p><p>I think myself, and others, have an etheric warrior aspect <em>because of</em> the here and now, and this is not in spite of or contrary to a finite goal of peaceful balance... whether that goal is observed from an interpersonal or extrapersonal perspective. For some, a warrior self is a necessary consciousness tool to NEUTRALIZE the effects of those who consider spirited human energetic potential to be a threat, those who wish to contain... well, as many &quot;containers&quot; as they can. As a little woman on the planet I am of no consequence, and I think, fairly unremarkable, only one of 6 billion... seems kind of silly to come after me, right? The one sobbing on the couch, instead of breaking glass? Yet, as energetic potential, I, and others, are a &quot;commodity&quot;... and that&#039;s what my etheric warrior-self exists for, he and she fight for me and the maintenance of whatever energetic growth I am garnering through learning while &quot;in country&quot;. My warrior self doesn&#039;t fight for principles like control and power from a place of&nbsp; anger... he and she are just doing their job. I hear no proclamations from warrior-self of STO be-ingness... no veneration, no glory, just looking out for my best interest, as my &#039;lil acre of Free Will has dictated. I pretty much believe that if it weren&#039;t for my warrior-self all the energetic growth I&#039;ve procured over the years, something I&#039;m very conscientious of procuring, would just be naught. I&#039;d just be another loosh producer.</p><p>... my horoscope today advises to &quot;keep it real&quot;, and I almost haven&#039;t even made this post because as many of you who&#039;ll know what I&#039;m talking about is as many others of you who&#039;ll get a good chuckle out of what I&#039;m writing (I do hope through my &quot;purpleness&quot; that my objectivity shines through though). Even though my thoughts don&#039;t seem very &quot;of this world&quot; and in the here and now, we yet do live in an environment that has parts unseen, a pool of consciousness that touches back when we touch it, and even when we don&#039;t. We exist in an environment of possibilities fueled by probabilities... and improbabilities. I could share a list of improbabilities, incidences in my life that range from doors slamming on their own to walking around corners into dark cylinders of energy, from the coming and going of unique markings on my body to orbs trying to shove there way into my body... abduction and suicide programs. And more. It&#039;s the improbabilities, these events that promote the desistance of energetic growth that give rise to etheric warriors. Just because all of this &quot;universal existence&quot; purportedly comes under One Law, one ultimately deveined of polarization, doesn&#039;t mean that I am, or anybody else should, roll over and allow dark forces (whatever shape they come in, and from whichever perspective) to benefit from their personal energies.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Neomatrix wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>And yet, you can&#039;t fight against the Darkness without employing its techniques, can you?</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m chagrined to write here and now that I don&#039;t think one can, if they <em>have</em> to... heh, the thing is though, those techniques imbued with Light Worker native nature are greater in power... and to believe that <em>is</em> one of the leaps of faith I still embrace. I do hope it works out for me, <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> and my pals. </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Neomatrix wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Perhaps it would be better to try and embrace the darkness instead? I hear that it will run a mile when threatened with a hug!</p></blockquote></div><p>Now... given my experiences, I have my tongue buried deeply in my cheek here for reading this Jason, <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> so bear with me... at least if just for chuckles. </p><p>Are you saying that you&#039;ve heard in an astral or OBE event, any obscure type of&nbsp; event wherein one is having.... ummm, say a hypodermic needle shoved into their neck, that if one just reaches out and hugs the neg perp that they&#039;ll turn and run before injecting hyperdimensional smack into them? I think when we&#039;re in a &quot;bad dream&quot; this is more likely possible, like if one sees their face in a dream dressed up like a Chuckie doll... okay, go ahead and embrace that personal she-ite, but there are other arenas of consciousness that house beings that could &lt;bleeping&gt; care less about hugs and kisses, and &lt;bleeping&gt; love and light. And I&#039;m not cussin&#039; at you Neomatrix... Snicker! Snort! Just cussin&#039; for contemplating the notion... I mean, bloody hell dude! <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/lol.png" width="15" height="15" alt="lol" /> To think, oh m&#039;gawd, I&#039;ve had it all wrong all these years...</p><p>I&#039;ve now sat on this post for a few hours &#039;cause I&#039;m not so sure it really fits here, or even still think it&#039;s important, but it&#039;s where I began this morning... why not finish?</p><p>A few hours ago my mate came in the door as I was putting finishing touches on the post, even all the while then wondering why I thought it was worth posting. He sat down in front of the current horror story jigsaw puzzle we&#039;ve got going on here, <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/lol.png" width="15" height="15" alt="lol" /> , and was repeatedly whistling the one chorus line to the song &quot;Wind Beneath My Wings&quot;... <em>...did you ever know you&#039;re my hero...</em> . Being into what I was thinking and doing, all the while, like, totally oblivious to what he was thinking and doing, this repetitive whistling started to pinch at me. And then I payed attention to what he was whistling... I then got on him like white on rice, &quot;Why, why, why, are you, of all the songs in the world, whistling that one right now? WHY? Did you hear the song earlier today? What? It&#039;s not like it&#039;s your kind of music!&quot;&nbsp; Near like a banshee I was. He looks at me and says he&#039;s not actually aware he&#039;s whistling anything, and then goes along, not to whistle it again, also totally oblivious to where my thoughts have been today. </p><p>Synchs are freaky, how do things work out like this? I couldn&#039;t make this whack up even if I tried.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Natural Mystic wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Speaking of warriors.. this reminds me of star wars...</p><p>-------<br />Luke: I&#039;m looking for a great warrior<br />Yoda: Wars not make one great<br />------</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m not one who&#039;s ever gotten into &quot;Star Wars&quot;, yet me and this ever present etheric warrior I cart around couldn&#039;t agree anymore... I&#039;d give my life without remorse, even gleefully, if it were for a good cause, but until then, I&#039;ll instead fight for my life force... not to be great, but just to get to be.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 03:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=23850#p23850</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of warriors.. this reminds me of star wars...</p><p>-------<br />Luke: I&#039;m looking for a great warrior<br />Yoda: Wars not make one great<br />------</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2005 21:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=23790#p23790</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well let me begin by saying, it&#039;s not my intention to offend anyone here so if I do, I apologize in advance.&nbsp; With that being said,</p><p>I don&#039;t resonate with what was said above about our being here to battle, or about needing to destroy the universe.&nbsp; From what I&#039;ve observed thus-far in life, I feel more like I&#039;m here to learn and to overcome.&nbsp; And I don&#039;t feel the need to get thrown into one polarity or the other.&nbsp; The &quot;warrier&quot; bit is an easy one to fall for -- look how well it worked for the military for so many years.&nbsp; Ah yes, glorious warrior.&nbsp; Don&#039;t fall for these cheap mind tricks, its just another way of getting you to pick a side, to polarize.</p><p>As far as calling out Montalk, well thanks for the link and I&#039;ll be sure to check it out.&nbsp; But I don&#039;t expect to find any great awe-inspiring truths there that I don&#039;t already know either through Montalk or through other materials or experiences in life.&nbsp; I&#039;ll check it out, and maybe it is the end of the world as I know it, but somehow I doubt it...</p><p>Take care all..</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2005 06:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>troydungeon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Karma is a 100% evil concept.</p></blockquote></div><div class="quotebox"><cite>Amitakh Stanford wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>People are programmed to choose certain foods, schools, friends, intimate relationships etc. KARMA IS A FORM OF SEVERE PROGRAMMING. When a person wakes up to the possibility of programming, he or she has a much better chance of overcoming the programming by consciously willing his or her self to resist the programming. Jealously, rage, fear and sexual arousal are examples of very powerful forms of programming.</p></blockquote></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Xenopope)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 17:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=23623#p23623</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Krazor wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The question from Barefoot Doc is intriquing. Could anything but somekind of diety hijack matter using the ego of man as a vector, or did this false god, whatever just create it. What? Is not the universe an absolute? No positive or negative sign. Just potential to do the improbable. The Logos was all I heard the greeks really put any stock in, and the rest was pablum for temple virgins. Human ego is already more than we humans can stand, it really colors the perception of time/space and holds the creation responsible for any and all problems we encounter. We deserve a break, we ain&#039;t done this before. We&#039;re gonna get it wrong a lot. But sometimes we get it right, and right in a big way, depends on your point of view. Being kind and gentle enough to domesticate animals was a breakthrough for humans. But some thought it a waste of food resources. I personally thought the breakthroughs that led to home brew was an outstanding developement. But that led to wild parties and litter. Hmmmm.&nbsp; Think where we&#039;d be without indoor plumbing! Say Doc, is a half-maker what we call a -tease-?&nbsp; Aprogas had his finger on it when he pleaded for a little more gray between the dark and ultimate light. I think it&#039;s mostly various shades of everycolor, not much black and white stuff, and that the Creator wears heels and sequins and is happy to see me. ta.</p></blockquote></div><p>ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p><p>Dudes, me got mead! Apple mead! Organic, mostly! Made it meself! <br />That is to say, I would love to share it were ever a possibility! Cheers to you all for the insights and humor!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (thook)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 06:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=23461#p23461</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>As interesting and colorful as Gnostic theology is, I&#039;ve never been much impressed by its assertions. They tried to paint an all-too-human face onto the processes of cosmic creation (birth and death, male and female, etc), and as such their theology is severly flawed at best. The belief that the material world is somehow flawed goes back to mankind&#039;s own deep-seated self-loathing. How imperfect we must have been to have been rejected by our own Creator, thrown kicking and screaming out of the light and into the terrifying darkness of the infinite Abyss. Somehow, I get the feeling that this wasn&#039;t the way things really began ;-)</p><p>Oh, and P.S. MONTALK! I&#039;M CALLING YOU OUT! Yeah, I&#039;m calling you out for a beer on Friday night. Drinks are on me, old buddy ;-)</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Neomatrix)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 04:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I feel evil/good are emic distinctions that can easily trap (or keep trapped) those who choose to believe in this binary opposition. I think those values are subjective, but what is objective and therefore subsumes these values is balance/imbalance. If you &quot;fight&quot; evil in the violent, agressive sense of the word you are wasting your energy both on an invalid target and through futile means. Rather I should say, I believe you are only furthering the state of imbalance by going against &quot;evil&quot; or &quot;darkness&quot;. In truth, both light and dark exist ( darkness permitting physical experience) but they are set in opposition until both are embraced and brought together as one. Balance/imbalance. Not good vs. evil, God vs. Satan.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Ian)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 02:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>He he, this should be in the &quot;humor and fun&quot; section ... <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/lol.png" width="15" height="15" alt="lol" /><br />Most important is to stay in HERE/NOW.<br />I imagine the face that appeared on our young troy when he wrote these lines... he he...<br />Leave Devil/God aside, let&#039;s not forget that&nbsp; for millennias it is known that at the end there&#039;s only love and compassion, and it doesen&#039;t look like fighting skills to me, so i&#039;m happy for troy that have choosed his reality and belives in it so strongly with his electrical engineered/(binary?) mind.<br />Just don&#039;t forget that eventually all comes from one, the name of the one has no matter.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (All2one)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 22:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Montalk, sorry, but I gotta call you out!]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=23439#p23439</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>The question from Barefoot Doc is intriquing. Could anything but somekind of diety hijack matter using the ego of man as a vector, or did this false god, whatever just create it. What? Is not the universe an absolute? No positive or negative sign. Just potential to do the improbable. The Logos was all I heard the greeks really put any stock in, and the rest was pablum for temple virgins. Human ego is already more than we humans can stand, it really colors the perception of time/space and holds the creation responsible for any and all problems we encounter. We deserve a break, we ain&#039;t done this before. We&#039;re gonna get it wrong a lot. But sometimes we get it right, and right in a big way, depends on your point of view. Being kind and gentle enough to domesticate animals was a breakthrough for humans. But some thought it a waste of food resources. I personally thought the breakthroughs that led to home brew was an outstanding developement. But that led to wild parties and litter. Hmmmm.&nbsp; Think where we&#039;d be without indoor plumbing! Say Doc, is a half-maker what we call a -tease-?&nbsp; Aprogas had his finger on it when he pleaded for a little more gray between the dark and ultimate light. I think it&#039;s mostly various shades of everycolor, not much black and white stuff, and that the Creator wears heels and sequins and is happy to see me. ta.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Krazor)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 21:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=23408#p23408</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this great thread, i have no answers&nbsp; but from what little i have gleamed from gnostic teachings is that troydungeon may have a point that should be considered. <br />This has been referred to for millenia from Ahriman, Jehovah, Demiurge, the story of Sophia, Archons,&nbsp; Cathars, the false god Jesus reffered to and the real pre existent father he refers to in order to escape the clutches of the false god or the Demiurge.</p><p>Demiurge= From the Greek, Demiourgos, craftsman. From Plato&#039;s Timaeus, the demiurge&nbsp; is the creator of the world. Greek Christian church fathers used the word to describe God as creator; however, the best known usage is by the Gnostics, who used it to refer to the inferior creator of the material world, whom they held as a seperate entity from the supernal deity. The Gnostics called this Demiurge Ialdabaoth; his birth was a consequence of Sophia&#039;s wish to create a copy of herself.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>One of the aeonial beings who bears the name Sophia (“WisdomÃ¯Â¿Â½ ) is of great importance to the Gnostic world view. In the course of her journeyings, Sophia came to emanate from her own being a flawed consciousness, a being who became the creator of the material and psychic cosmos, all of which he created in the image of his own flaw. This being, unaware of his origins, imagined himself to be the ultimate and absolute God. Since he took the already existing divine essence and fashioned it into various forms, he is also called the Demiurgos or “half-makerÃ¯Â¿Â½&nbsp; There is an authentic half, a true deific component within creation, but it is not recognized by the half-maker and by his cosmic minions, the Archons or “rulersÃ¯Â¿Â½ .</p></blockquote></div><p><a href="http://www.webcom.com/~gnosis/gnintro.htm">http://www.webcom.com/~gnosis/gnintro.htm</a></p><p><a href="http://www.humanities.ualberta.ca/agora/images/214.htm">http://www.humanities.ualberta.ca/agora/images/214.htm</a></p><p><a href="http://www.meta-religion.com/Esoterism/Gnosticism/gnosticism.htm">http://www.meta-religion.com/Esoterism/ … ticism.htm</a></p><p>One thing is for sure all our religions and world leaders seem to follow the false god and not the real one.<br />Question is did the demiurge or false god just hijack matter through the ego of man or did they create it?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Barefoot Doc)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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