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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks AB and Manyeagles for great comments and questions!</p><p>From AB:<br />&quot;But isn&#039;t the Kali Yuga cycle part of the great order of Universe? Me, personally, I read about it for the first time about 15 years ago, but it is there in the books since thousands of years, it seems. And now this cycle comes to an end, just like a train coming on time.<br />The Luciferian train has arrived. Surprise!&quot;</p><p>It&#039;s interesting - speaking as a professional astrology writer, I know firsthand about the power of natural cycles and how there is a definite ebb and flow to emotions, bodily energy, and spiritual enlightenment. There&#039;s a microcosmic version (mini-cycles which happen in an individual person&#039;s life) as well as larger, societal cycles. The Kali Yuga is one such larger cycle that some astrologers ascribe to.</p><p>When I first began my &quot;chats&quot; with various beings ranging from the devic kingdom to the angelic kingdom to the animal and mineral kingdoms many years ago, I expected to obtain information along the lines you&#039;ve suggested - that, if there is a &quot;dark time&quot; humanity is going through, perhaps it is just part of the natural evolutional ebb and flow</p><p>Imagine my surprise when I received multiple confirmations from multiple sources over many years (often when I&#039;d completely forgotten about having received the same message before and had to check my notes again to confirm!)......and the info from all levels of reality was that there is a DIFFERENCE between the natural ebb and flow (see my example above of the wolf predator energy vs. the white eagle energy) and the Luciferian &quot;insert&quot; or intrusion which happened into this reality and essentially &quot;hijacked&quot; the program here many aeons ago.</p><p>So....I might suggest that it&#039;s good to consider this from all potential angles.....how much of &quot;evil&quot; is just the natural polarity of life, the yin/yang, and how much is an excessive or inappropriate evil that has been artificially manipulated and amplified....because the info I&#039;ve received seems to suggest that the latter has been going on.&nbsp; And that all of nature, all of creation, all of the denizens of the many realms which intersect this one, are engaged in a &quot;team&quot; project, if you will, to expel these inappropriate visitors/ET&#039;s/ghouls/demons/Luciferians etc from this reality so a much less INTENSE type of polarity - which will still allow everyone to grow and to be challenged - can dominate.</p><p>Whew! I hope the above passage makes sense. I&#039;m typing rapid stream-of-consciousness ideas tonight as I duck in here between managing multiple other projects.</p><p>Manyeagles:<br />&quot;Not having much experience with those who use Reiki (I can count maybe 3 or 4), I DID encounter one that worked on the &quot;toxicity&quot; first, and then was able to proceed with the rest of the healing.&nbsp; After working on me for about 15 minutes or so, this major blockage/toxicity was identified and removed.&nbsp; This was something that had occurred a long time ago, which was kinda buried and mostly forgotten about.&nbsp; She was able to identify and zero on it with amazing accuracy.&nbsp; It was only after she had done this that the rest of the healing was able to be successful.&quot;</p><p>I am SO glad you had a wonderful experience with this healer, and I&#039;m sure you were meant to have that spirit-directed experience - so good for you!</p><p>Sometimes, a person&#039;s natural level of psychic protection is extremely strong, and they are not as adversely affected by a Reiki session......also, it may be that this particular healer was very tuned in herself...sounds like she was....and it&#039;s wonderful that she removed toxicity from you first and THEN blasted with the Reiki energy afterwards. She must have been more attuned to modulating her work and had a more subtle approach.</p><p>Maybe this is most frequently a problem with beginner Reiki students who have tried to cram their studies into a couple of weekends? I dunno -- I&#039;ve run across far more of the latter kind I mention above...those who are so excited (and well-intentioned, too) about learning how to BLAST energy out of their palms that it&#039;s all about &quot;Whoa, dude, feel how hot my hands are!&quot; and &quot;Gee, did you feel that incredible blast of energy I gave you, wasn&#039;t that impressive?&quot; instead of carefully modulating the use of their gifts.&nbsp; </p><p>But it&#039;s all part of the learning curve when you learn holistic healing techniques, so I don&#039;t want to completely bash ALL Reiki people - sorry if any here have taken offense.</p><p>I am being frank when I talk about the possession thing.....sadly, it&#039;s mostly Reiki practitioners and DNA activation people whom I&#039;ve come across who have displayed this very severe psychic problem....and they in turn pass questionable energies on to others through their work.&nbsp; Sad stuff.</p><p>I wish none of it were happening, quite honestly, because I&#039;ll always have a huge soft spot in my heart for anybody on a healing path.&nbsp; </p><p>LipstickMystic</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you LipstickMystic for sharing your experiences with healers.</p><p>Not having much experience with those who use Reiki (I can count maybe 3 or 4), I DID encounter one that worked on the &quot;toxicity&quot; first, and then was able to proceed with the rest of the healing.&nbsp; After working on me for about 15 minutes or so, this major blockage/toxicity was identified and removed.&nbsp; This was something that had occurred a long time ago, which was kinda buried and mostly forgotten about.&nbsp; She was able to identify and zero on it with amazing accuracy.&nbsp; It was only after she had done this that the rest of the healing was able to be successful. </p><p>At the end of the healing it didn&#039;t feel as if energy was given per say, but more like a psychic &quot;ex-lax&quot; was administered.&nbsp; It felt great to NOT be &quot;constipated&quot;!!!!</p><p>BTW this healer recently moved from Australia, and had only been in the states for a couple of months.&nbsp; Really remarkable woman, quite a powerful seer in spite of being totally blind physically.&nbsp; Felt as if her third eye could blast holes through the wall!&nbsp; </p><p>Guess I got lucky...</p><p>Oh yeah, about the Swiss cheese thing...&nbsp; Maybe a psychic full body flak-vest might be a solution to this scenerio, dunno, but seems to work for some.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the reminder of this, AB:</p><p>&quot;Give not that which is holy to the dogs, nor throw your pearls to the swine; otherwise they will trample them under their feet and then turn and attack you.&quot;<br />Matthew 7:6&quot;</p><p>Actually, one water deva I spoke with this weekend was practically scolding me about this same point, trying to drive it into my little dense head <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />&nbsp; She said that the ancient, tried and true method of &quot;when the student is ready, the teacher will appear&quot; is how advanced metaphysical information was always meant to be conveyed. People have to first make the effort in their own lives to be ready to receive this type of information. Then they have to set the intention, consciously or unconsciously, that they really want to learn. Then, and only then, does the universe set into motion divine synchronicity, instantly matching teacher and student. The energy grid has to be set up within their upper chakras so that they can receive the vibration of what you are trying to share.</p><p>I was also given a long lecture about the bell curve, or sine wave, and how this waveform is a representation of how humanity is currently evolving. You have the &quot;herd&quot; in the middle, the bulging part of the bell (cow-like types who are easily led and need a simplistic, black and white view of things because they are unwilling? unable? to embrace a more sophisticated level of discernment; the herd means well, is generally good-intentioned and has heart energy but is easily manipulated and very dangerous when it gets frightened or startled - the madness of crowds and all that.)</p><p>Then you have the &quot;wolf&quot; or the predator at one extreme end. The wolf is hunting the pack and is pretty much just doing his job.&nbsp; The wolf in himself isn&#039;t evil, he&#039;s doing what nature intended. </p><p>At the other extreme end, you have the white eagle,&nbsp; who flies above and ahead of the herd and out of the path of the predatorial wolves.</p><p>In addition to the normal bell curve, there was a Luciferian distortion wave that inappropriately entered into this reality a long time ago, and it wreaked havoc not just with this world of 3-D but also with the angelic and devic realms. Everyone was taken by surprise when antimatter technology in effect broke a hole into this reality. Many of the angels were lost to the dark side until the remaining angels could figure out what was happening. Same great loss of numbers happened in the devic realms, too. Did you know that some water devas are aligned with evil? And some members of the mineral/crystal kingdom are tricksters, too? </p><p>This Luciferian distortion brought about imbalance in the sine wave/waveform stream of evolution that was happening in the world of 3-d.&nbsp; Before then, all was in balance. Afterwards, the path of evolution for all creatures got hijacked and our world went dark.</p><p>Now shadow energies and unensouled beings started to rush into this plane in huge numbers. These are the &quot;ghouls&quot; Stuart Wilde talks about.&nbsp; They attached themselves to the predatorial wolf energies at the extreme end of the bell curve but distorted them. Again, wolf in himself isn&#039;t a bad guy, he&#039;s just doing his job, and when he kills members of the herd (deer and so forth,) he only goes after the sick, the elderly, or the weak.&nbsp; He culls the herd.&nbsp; There is compassion and purpose in his actions.</p><p>But the Luciferian influx has no compassion, and souls of that vibration do not have functional heart/love energy. The addition of the Luciferian into that stream of the evolutional bell curve distorted things.&nbsp; Suddenly wolf wasn&#039;t just wolf anymore. Other, evil, predatorial energies were added to the mix. Suddenly ET&#039;s without heart energies were allowed to incarnate here. They were also able to possess human bodies temporarily or over several lifetimes, overshadowing the main human soul in that body, existing as parasites.&nbsp; Energies started pervading this reality whom the Creator never intended to be here.</p><p>At the white eagle end are the lightworkers. The last 50 years have brought many of the &quot;indigo&quot; or more illuminated spirits into incarnation here.&nbsp; (I use the term indigo although I don&#039;t personally ascribe to the idea that every child born right now is automatically an indigo kid; many of them are completely unensouled and frightening to be around!) Creator has been counteracting the influx of so much Luciferian stuff by inviting numerous souls from many different, more refined, planes of reality to bring their lighter energies down here and attempt to inject a lighter vibration into the mix to counter the Luciferian overshadowing that has been going on for too long and to make this place habitable again, without the psychic pollution that polluted the &quot;garden.&quot;</p><p>So you have white eagle people/souls at one extreme end; the true advanced white eagles are the Jesus types or extremely gifted spiritual masters. You have baby eagles next to that, the indigo souls and lightworker types who are drawn to the healing pathway.&nbsp; (And by healer I refer to anyone attuned to the love vibration, not necessarily people in the holistic health profession.) And there is this heightened influx of baby eagles now who have come within the past 50 years.</p><p>Then you have the herd in the middle. </p><p>Then you have the wolf predators (less evil predators, more just natural predators taking out the weak or the sick) and the really bad Luciferian predatorial energies at the other extreme energy of the bell.</p><p>This was the energy map that was given me by the deva I spoke with. It&#039;s kind of hard to do without drawing a diagram, but you get the idea.</p><p>She was adamant about the dangers of stirring up the herd. If you present ideas or energies to the herd and they can&#039;t get their heads around what you&#039;re presenting, they instantly classify you as either wolf or white eagle, only they aren&#039;t sure which you are. They will usually default to a fearful or attack reaction.&nbsp; Then you get stomped on. </p><p>I can speak to the truth of that one. Want to count all the hoof marks down my back ? <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> My bet is that you other readers and posters here have had your share, too. We should compare photos sometime!</p><p>Still, there are a lot of souls right on the margins of the herd headed toward baby eagle territory in their spiritual vibration, ripe for spiritual opening, usually already manifesting very strong psychic abilities. They are typically completely overwhelmed because of their energy sensitivity and not having good teaching about how to manage these capabilities.</p><p>It&#039;s reaching THOSE people that is my passion.</p><p>Just this weekend I met a budding baby eagle, a young massage therapist and mother of two who knew she was an empath but didn&#039;t know the word for what she was. It took my boyfriend and I explaining to her gently what an empath is, how being a direct psychic sponge is difficult when you do hands-on healing work, and it requires special self-protection and self-cleansing techniques so the healer can stay well.&nbsp; That stuff isn&#039;t widely taught. Massage school teachers are still into the old &quot;Oh, just imagine yourself surrounded by white light and you&#039;ll be fine.&quot;</p><p>Cough. Bull poop.&nbsp; I could get on my soap box about that one, but I won&#039;t do so here. Check out my articles about this at my site if this resonates with you, that healers are woefully unprepared for handling the complex energies that assail them in their healing work.</p><p>All of the healers I know except three - so that makes several hundred - are sick right now because of not being taught this stuff. Or they just default to Reiki training. AGGH.&nbsp; Don&#039;t get me started on that one, either. In Reiki you have this technique where essentially all you do is energize people, give them energy.</p><p>What if there is sickness in them?&nbsp; You&#039;ve just added energy and heat to their condition, causing what is essentially a psychic fever. This causes the auric field to overexpand and the person to feel unwell or out-of-body.</p><p>You have to REMOVE the toxicity and sickness and entity attachments first before giving energy.</p><p>This is why every Reiki worker I&#039;ve ever known is unwell.&nbsp; They do the energizing, not the removal of the toxic stuff first. People who go to them with chronic situations of overcongested energy in their body (for example, with rheumatoid arthritis) feel worse after a session and wonder why. </p><p>Again, it&#039;s all lack of teaching.</p><p>I know one of my secondary &quot;missions&quot; is about &quot;healing the healers,&quot; but, quite frankly, this usually consists of performing triage on someone who is pretty badly off.&nbsp; How many emergency cases can one person reasonably expect to handle?&nbsp; I ran a 24 hour a day help clinic for about ten years until it caught up to me. That&#039;s why I don&#039;t offer readings or healings for public consumption anymore. Instead, I try to get information out.</p><p>Healers mean well but when they go through that blissful peak experience, heart awakening stuff, they often lose their ability to discern - evil doesn&#039;t exist anymore - no one will ever do them wrong - Spirit has all the answers.</p><p>Honey, sometimes, you have to remember you&#039;re in 3-D.&nbsp; This ain&#039;t heaven. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> And there&#039;s some serious crap going on here, thanks to the ghouls.</p><p>But we CAN make it much more of a heaven, through our incredible creationary abilities as sovereign spiritual beings.&nbsp; More teaching just needs to be out there so people can make use of it.</p><p>So, back to my dilemma - how do you accomplish getting the information out without acquiring a Swiss cheese-like quality from receiving so many hoof marks from the frightened herd?&nbsp; </p><p>Thanks again for letting me vent!</p><p>Lipstick Mystic</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 02:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>indeed a great article! i like your style!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 00:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hey LipstickMystic,</p><p>thanks for posting that stuff.&nbsp; you are a great writer!</p><p>SSE</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 22:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I was going to post the same as lyra, LipstickMystic: I didn&#039;t feel you were a bummer or sounding depressed. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> I enjoyed a few of your articles on your site, as well. Thanks!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 20:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>LipstickMystic wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>PS And I don&#039;t mean to be a bummer, either. Sorry if I sound depressed!&nbsp; I have to deal with so much stuff day-to-day it&#039;s the Matrix movie on acid.&nbsp; Sometimes it gets to me.</p></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t think you sound depressed at all.&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />&nbsp; That was a fascinating post to read, so thanks for posting it and contributing.&nbsp; &nbsp;So far I&#039;ve really enjoyed what you&#039;ve had to say, and I went over to your website to read the article and enjoyed that as well.&nbsp; &nbsp;Post on!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 20:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments. I enjoyed reading everyone&#039;s thoughts on the concepts that the water devas so freely offered me when I was blessed to tune into them this past weekend.</p><p>I agree with Auendove that &quot;channeled&quot; messages aren&#039;t being delivered the same way they used to be in the &quot;old days&quot; back when they were the new &quot;thing&quot; in the 80&#039;s. It&#039;s more like just tuning in, saying hi, and listening to what is offered. At least, that&#039;s the way it is for me. But then, I&#039;ve never been a &quot;talk to the ET&#039;s&quot; girl because I had so many close psychic friends who became possessed by the Luciferian pretenders over the years, and I was there to witness the crash and burn, clean up the mess afterwards. Not a pretty thing at all. The ones who suffered the worst were into ET channeling or worship of some form or another.&nbsp; Sad. Such good people &quot;lost.&quot;</p><p>95% of the psychics I knew over the past 20 years have now been co-opted by the dark ones (completely or partially possessed) or killed or disabled through sudden, mysterious chronic illnesses. I&#039;ve had to cure myself of several such illnesses and dealt with more death threats and attempts on my life than I can even count at this point.&nbsp; It&#039;s like living in the heat of the mess in Iraq every day.&nbsp; All that to earn big bucks (i.e. zero cents) with a public service website that STILL generates tons of counter-attack. But hey, I do what we can to try to get information out to people who might be able to make use of it, and I know that&#039;s what I&#039;m supposed to be doing.</p><p>I learned very quickly that the positively aligned ET&#039;s are under a strict &quot;non-intervention&quot; policy, much like the angels, unless you ask for their help specifically.&nbsp; And even then, most ET&#039;s are not allowed to help individuals, which is just as well. When they do intervene and try to do something nice for someone, the recipient of their help ends up with a big &quot;target&quot; sign over their head, the CIA and government harrassment starts happening to that person non-stop, not to mention the psychic attack.&nbsp; The dark ones work hard to prevent any of the good guys from communicating with the average, well-intentioned, &quot;Earther.&quot; Most lines of communication are continually cut off, not unlike FEMA cutting off local communications down in New Orleans. It&#039;s the same energy, the same evil intent.</p><p>I&#039;m not a channeler, but many people call me that.&nbsp; To me, I&#039;m just someone who listens, writes down what she hears as best she can, and tries to integrate those concepts into her own life, road-testing them and trying to share stuff that &quot;works&quot; with others who might be receptive.</p><p>It&#039;s taken me some time to learn how to shift my vibration to talk to many different types of creature - from the angelic realm to the devic realm.&nbsp; But it&#039;s been a great journey.</p><p>These days, I feel burdened by the 1000&#039;s of pages of notes I&#039;ve been given during these &quot;downloads.&quot;&nbsp; I mean, how do you go about attempting to share, say, what Jesus has been sharing with you on and off over the past twenty years about &quot;creation mind&quot; (the creationary state we can access when we step into our powers as a spiritually sovereign being) without getting into all manner of poop? On the one hand, you have to deal with fundamentalist crazies telling you you&#039;re evil (because they&#039;ve lost touch with the fact that they can chat with the big guy, too, and they are mad at you.) And on the other, you run into fellow metaphysical types getting their egos out of joint and playing the old &quot;she&#039;s obviously a CIA plant&quot; yada yada ad nauseum instead of being supportive of what you are attempting to bring through. (And this even when you&#039;ve shared with them how David Morehouse and his remote viewing goons nearly killed you when you refused to meet with him and join his &quot;consultancy&quot; firm years ago. Those guys don&#039;t take rejection very well.)</p><p>I keep dipping my toes into the self-publishing possibility and then un-dipping them, due to these issues. It was interesting being a &quot;news agent&quot; at rumormillnews.com for a year or so.&nbsp; That was one of those situations where you put yourself out there and attempt to speak the &quot;truth&quot; (or at least, your &quot;truth&quot; in that moment, since we all have an ever-evolving sense of truth as we learn more, and none of us has the sole pipeline to ultimate truth, anyway!)&nbsp; But, overall, it wasn&#039;t very comfortable or pleasant there.&nbsp; I especially had a problem with the owner&#039;s pro-Baby Bush stance, which literally made me toss my cookies on more than one occasion. Finally, when I had no more cookies left to toss, I knew it was time to go.</p><p>Again, thanks to everyone for their comments and insights.&nbsp; And thanks for letting me vent. There&#039;s very few places where I can do that these days. You guys and girls rock! And thanks to Montalk for creating such a great space.</p><p>LipstickMystic</p><p>PS And I don&#039;t mean to be a bummer, either. Sorry if I sound depressed!&nbsp; I have to deal with so much stuff day-to-day it&#039;s the Matrix movie on acid.&nbsp; Sometimes it gets to me.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>LipstickMystic wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The Gulf deva who watches over that area is apparently a very laid-back, loving deva...</p></blockquote></div><p>Oh, Snicker! Snort! I live on the gulf coast and &quot;she&quot; is veeery laid-back. There&#039;s definitely a profound difference in not only the physical energies of the gulf waters and the Atlantic, but also the spirit of the two. Between the two, the gulf water energies are FAR more conducive to meditation, and with ease. Very Buddhaic is this one, me thinks <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> ... I wouldn&#039;t be surprised to find she has one hand on the Buddhaic realm floor while the other gently cups the gulf waters <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /> .</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>LipstickMystic wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><strong>Messages From the Water Devas</strong></p><p>One deva told us that the urgent message the water devas want to convey to us in these times is to <strong>&quot;strip away everything that is not essential&quot;</strong> in our lives. On a mundane level, sometimes this involves the loss of belongings or homes in a geographical area that has been hit by one of these extreme weather events. But she wasn&#039;t referring to that. She was referring to the spiritual or metaphysical point of view.</p><p>She clarified this for me. In addition to stripping away everything that isn&#039;t essential, <strong>water also clears out anything that is incapable of bearing fruit</strong>, washing away seeds that have little chance of taking root and surviving to maturity.</p><p>In a larger, spiritual sense, the message of all of these extreme water events is about learning to simplify our lives - not just regarding our possessions. The devas were <strong>NOT</strong> sending some kind of cataclysmic warning that we all need to sell everything we own, move to the mountains and live our lives in fear of the weather. That&#039;s not their message at all. They are talking about simplifying our lives by releasing our attachments to complicated thoughts, obsessions, and addictive patterns. </p><p>It&#039;s the toxic thoughtforms that we hold <strong>around</strong> our possessions that are the problem, not the possessions themselves. It&#039;s the negative attitudes that we maintain about our jobs, our money flow, and our day-to-day relationships that the devas were talking about as being &quot;non-essential&quot; or unlikely to take root in a healthy way.</p></blockquote></div><p>I have known this message for some time now, and it couldn&#039;t be anymore pertinent to the public than it is right now. Thank you for getting to <em>the</em> point at the heart of the matter so succinctly LipstickMystic. Fast approaching is a pivotal point in multi-facted consciousness raising and soul evolution, at least in my mind&#039;s eye I find this to be true... heck, there&#039;s some moments I feel like I&#039;m already arrived to that juncture, what I call the spectral crossroads, that unique to each individual vector of personal awareness, and I&#039;m ray-ed and vibrant like soft sunshine, and most importantly, CAREFREE... who could ask for more, right? But yet, kinda metaphorically speaking, I still look down/back to what has fallen away, that being the shattered pieces of illusion. And of course, that kinda blows that carefree nature right outta the agua <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" />&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/lol.png" width="15" height="15" alt="lol" /> .</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>It&#039;s the toxic thoughtforms that we hold <strong>around</strong> our possessions that are the problem, not the possessions themselves.</p></blockquote></div><p>I gleaned and garner a refined understanding of further work for me to pursue on the heels of understanding this emphasis you&#039;ve applied in this sentence. In fact, if I take stock of what little I do have, including even my awareness of my life as I&#039;ve known it, I come to a hands down conclusion--I much prefer spectral light to shattered illusion any day <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> . Thank you for your timely words. </p><p>And as well, I&#039;d like to further comment that I am finding the present day channelers aren&#039;t messaging from some far off density, that the present day messages coming through aren&#039;t &quot;imported&quot; knowledge... they are being found in what we share through centers like NR, personal understandings shared from individual light/knowledge bases. The messages aren&#039;t coming from &quot;outside&quot; of us anymore, so to speak... they&#039;re coming through via human access. Heh, maybe &quot;us in the future&quot; are be-coming <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> .</p><p> I read montalk&#039;s article &quot;Stages in Consciousness&quot; yesterday, and one word in his article, JUST ONE WORD! <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /> , &quot;interleaved&quot;, opened a whole gosh darn consciousness door for me. This one sentence from Lipstick Mystic brought me to a refined understanding of where I&#039;m still dragging the line... and for me, that&#039;s priceless.</p><p>You guys, I used to get these little personal epiphanies from sources like the Cs, and at times I have indeed missed those days and sessions of mirth and discovery like you cannot believe, but I&#039;m no longer missing a thing because the &quot;source&quot; is alive and speaking through others in the here and now! <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/cool.png" width="15" height="15" alt="cool" /> </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>LipstickMystic wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Unfortunately, the Luciferian types who are into dark voodoo and worse have long polluted much of New Orleans with some really bad stuff, and perhaps, despite the tragedy of this event, some of that spiritual goop will be cleared out now. It&#039;s definitely an area in need of healing on many levels.</p></blockquote></div><p>I find that my heart longs to have the New Orleans area mandated as a natural preserve. It&#039;s a geographic area that shouldn&#039;t have been developed and populated to the extent it was in the first place, for what were, and are now obvious reasons. Seriously, this strikes me as the most sensical course of action at this point. I&#039;d like to see them take down the damn levees, to give back what didn&#039;t belong to the developers in the first place, and let mother nature get back to her business of wetlands and swamps, and greater planetary processes. If such was done, Mother Nature could, at many levels, heal what&#039;s been wounded.</p>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: The Water Devas Weigh in on Hurricane Katrina]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lipstick--</p><p>First off, thank you for sharing your wonderfully written and most insightful article.</p><p>I, too, am familiar with the beautiful Adirondack area of upstate New York, and have spent quite a bit of time there myself.</p><p>I found the following excerpt resonates with my own belief about the man-made component of this so-called &quot;hurricane&quot;: </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>LipstickMystic wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I asked about the energy behind these events. I was told that Hurricane Katrina was not a natural event (meaning that it was manmade, for whatever nefarious and dark reasons.) The Gulf deva who watches over that area is apparently a very laid-back, loving deva, and this hurricane was not induced by her at all. Various water energies are being distorted through the use of weather altering technology - not a good thing to be messing with. For whatever reasons, New Orleans was the target this time. I was given a lot more information about this but am reluctant to share it just now.</p></blockquote></div><p>I also find the following to be very insightful advice, and something that also resonates with my own beliefs, especially strong now:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>LipstickMystic wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>One deva told us that the urgent message the water devas want to convey to us in these times is to &quot;strip away everything that is not essential&quot; in our lives. On a mundane level, sometimes this involves the loss of belongings or homes in a geographical area that has been hit by one of these extreme weather events. But she wasn&#039;t referring to that. She was referring to the spiritual or metaphysical point of view.</p><p>continuing:</p><p>In a larger, spiritual sense, the message of all of these extreme water events is about learning to simplify our lives - not just regarding our possessions. The devas were NOT sending some kind of cataclysmic warning that we all need to sell everything we own, move to the mountains and live our lives in fear of the weather. That&#039;s not their message at all. They are talking about simplifying our lives by releasing our attachments to complicated thoughts, obsessions, and addictive patterns.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks again.</p><p>DJ</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 03:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Everyone,</p><p>I don&#039;t post here much, but I greatly appreciate all of the wonderful thinkers and writers who so generously share their ideas about subjects of vital importance to us all.</p><p>I thought I&#039;d share an article I wrote today at my site.&nbsp; I spent the weekend meditating at several lakes and a waterfall in the Adirondacks and received a ton of info from the water devas, those &quot;keepers of places&quot; who are the gentle guardians of nature.</p><p>They offered a lot of info, much of which I&#039;m still assimilating and processing. Some of which is very distressing, about the manmade nature of most of these extreme weather events we&#039;ve been having.&nbsp; (The Gulf deva is a very laid-back and loving deva who did NOT induce Hurricane Katrina.)</p><p>But this brief article contains some of the download I received, plus metaphysical suggestions you might find useful about incorporating the messages of water in your own life.</p><p>I might also add that you might wish to check out Dr. Masaru Emoto&#039;s Messages from Water websites and books; also his work is mentioned in the What the Bleep Do They Know? movie, now out on DVD.&nbsp; I know his material has been covered before here, but having heard him lecture in person earlier this year and been gradually attuning myself to the messages of the water kingdom, I know that there is great wisdom there that we can all be making use of in our lives. </p><p>Okay, sorry to run!&nbsp; But here&#039;s the link:</p><p><a href="http://www.lipstickmystic.com/articles/hurricane_katrina_messages_of_water.html">http://www.lipstickmystic.com/articles/ … water.html</a></p><p>You can also reach it from the home page, lipstickmystic.com.</p><p>I invite comments and feedback, either privately or here at the forum.</p><p>LipstickMystic</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 00:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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