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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>A friend who works at JPL told me this. I don&#039;t know its origin. by Stephen Walton</p><p>Three NASA engineers, one from headquarters in Washington, one from the Johnson center in Houston, and one from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena were discussing whether it was better to have a wife or a mistress.</p><p>The HQ guy said it was better to have a mistress, because they are more understanding of the long absences required of a NASA employee. The Johnson guy retorted, &quot;Oh, no, one must always follow proper rules and procedures, and marriage is the proper procedure, so it is better to have a wife.&quot;</p><p>The JPL engineer replied, &quot;No, it is better to have both. That way, you can tell your wife that you&#039;re with your mistress, your mistress that you&#039;re with your wife, and go to the lab and work.&quot; <a href="http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/89q1/mistress.289.html">http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/89q1/ … s.289.html</a></p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-09-19T18:19:48Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>wow, I&#039;m surprised to see this thread back up after a year. I still remember typing in this thread like it was yesterday. I don&#039;t think we will see anything new until there is a new fuel supply. When alternative technologies for powering vehicles become very normal and settled in society, that&#039;s when things might change a little. People are begining to wake up and say there has got to be a faster way to travel through space.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-09-13T06:39:05Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I heard they shot down the shuttle that broke up over california (discovery?) with a particle beam or perhaps LASER, which is why the wing slowly heated up. And it was from Russia...?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-09-12T07:02:18Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>zenden wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>they think they can daily sedate us with their stupid show business and yes oh my oh my-- ITS ALL SHOW BUSINESS. .</p></blockquote></div><p>Love it! That&#039;s for sure.&nbsp; It&#039;s all show business. </p><p>And things get very, very weird when you have to keep track of celebrity news for several years as part of your &quot;day&quot; job like me, writing astrology columns making fun of pop culture.&nbsp; Because you see how certain concepts are &quot;set up&quot; years in advance and they&#039;re often tied in to particular people they want to turn into &quot;celebrities&quot; and program young people and the masses with them. Show business as mass programming ritual.</p><p>I remember when Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton were people nobody had ever heard of....but I suddenly saw in the media how &quot;somebody&quot; had decided to turn these girls into public freak shows....now they&#039;re all riddled with drugs and problems and have weird lives with helicopters full of paparazzi following them around every minute. And your average kid growing up wants to BE like them. Yuckus!</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>zenden wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>its so funny--picture this--the footage of actual shapeshifting instantaneous turn-on-a-dime UFO&#039;s all over the place, the reports, the 60 plus yrs just lately (besides ancient historical stuff) of irrevocable weird truths and u watch em fire off a giant fuel guzzling penis-shaped clunker with a ton of smoke and exhaust with a roar that can be heard from cape caniveral to the sudan half the time and WTF?&nbsp; compare the 2.&nbsp; its hilarious.</p></blockquote></div><p>Guzzling penis-shaped clunker, indeed! Some days I am convinced that all of human culture, human politics, and human &quot;achievement&quot; has had as its sole focus the goal of continually reminding us that half the population has a penis.&nbsp; Because somebody considers this very, very important, and we must never forget it! <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>(By the way, I&#039;m all for the penis.&nbsp; I&#039;m just not so into its use as a programming, um, tool.)</p><p>LipstickMystic aka Jennifer</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[LipstickMystic]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-11T22:07:08Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>lyra--couldnt agree more.&nbsp; thats my theory too.&nbsp; almost exactly.&nbsp; we r a &quot;product&quot; and theyre separate from us.&nbsp; i saw what they were up to when i was in the third garde--1960?&nbsp; 1962?&nbsp; many many yrs ago...they had the &quot;new math&quot; then, too, were just instituting it in the school systems.&nbsp; i saw it then, how they tried to convince us that 2 negative numbers made a positive.&nbsp; right, yeah.&nbsp; im no mathmetician but not eeven.&nbsp; i saw it as a an americanized introduction to newspeak, the prwellian semantics game that we all know rules our world.&nbsp; up is down, black is white, good is bad, bad is good, etc etc etc.&nbsp; </p><p>and then i realized--&quot;this is a way to get us to believe lies in the face of all logic&quot;--this is a ruse. in 3rd grade the indoctrination became ever more so obvious. its a stone-cold fact that the post-revolutionary and WWI industrialists devised the educational system in america--its to prepare the &quot;worker&quot; for the 7-3 work world, for ur slavery, its a training ground for employment, with ur hours, ur subservience to the &quot;master&quot; conditioning for the ultimate cooperation at an early age.&nbsp; &nbsp;most ppl dont see it and r still in it, never looking up and seeing.&nbsp; and it has been bred into the sheeple for generations.&nbsp; most ppl wouldnt even think for one minute to question &quot;authority&quot;--or why the jetsons hasnt happened yet they &quot;showed&quot; that to us.&nbsp; ppl have been trained, conditioned not to ask ur questions, its hard to live among them.</p><p>yep, couldnt agree more, using stupid rocket booster systems to shoot pre and post-WWII fuel burning metal (oh, come on!) heavy weighted monstrosities into space.&nbsp; good god, totally ludicrous.&nbsp; ur tax dollars at work, Mam.&nbsp; oh yeah--ludicrous when any good awakened soul worth its weight knows space can be folded and magnetics used at the simplest of physical properties.&nbsp; yep, THE JETSONS.&nbsp; milabs does it all the time.&nbsp; they were getting ready to beam my sister and i out of that bedroom that noc long ago when the grays came.&nbsp; we probably got that from them and we all know, alot more stuff thats for sure.</p><p>been waiting for 50 yrs for the jetsons, for all of it to embody, but, no go. i totally agree, it is all there right in front of us, they always state how much its costing all of us too as they blabber on about the launching.&nbsp; and didnt we just read that theres a new 5 trillion (billion? or something new contract with the TPTB Lockheed-Martin?) to do something just as downright dumb and old fashioned as always that we all know wont work, is unnecessary. and here we go all over again and again.&nbsp; thats how theyget their money for the real STUFF, the &quot;nebraska navy&quot; the black budget, the black helicopters.&nbsp; most big corporations and the military have few distinctions between them.&nbsp; not tellin u anything u dont know.&nbsp; and u know they got all kinds of great crap--one can just know it, feel it.&nbsp; man, oh yeah.&nbsp; the real beaming up and all around stuff milabs uses, etc, is a probable type of remolecularization.&nbsp; its all so very obvious. </p><p>thats why i fell in love with montalk and the orig site, hell, u know, the front page of this site that immediately addresses the spiritual immunity some of us were born with, that alerts one to their lies and manipulations.&nbsp; its so boring seeing and living thru all of it in this 3d game thats about f----- over i f---- hope.&nbsp; cant hang on much longer.&nbsp; but, yet, just hangin on, to watch and wait.&nbsp; they think theyre gonna &quot;get out of it&quot;--that theyre gonna &quot;make it out&quot; away from the rest of us with the shift thats coming.&nbsp; they think they can daily sedate us with their stupid show business and yes oh my oh my-- ITS ALL SHOW BUSINESS.&nbsp; yeah--they even got shows on show business ABOUT show business that make zillions by the day/hr/wk.&nbsp; &nbsp;NASA is just show business.&nbsp; more of the same--rockets and putting shows on TV about show business during evening hrs to rake in more money, for what?&nbsp; for more show business and more stupid rockets, keeps em busy.&nbsp; all paid for by the same corporations or their acquisitioned partners, thru advertising for more of their bullshit crud products, of which we make thru r employment with &#039;em, back to slavery again.&nbsp; and speaking of PRODUCTS on this same theme--WE ARE THE BIG ONE, probably the biggest product these/those same families and their leaders/bloodlines created====US.&nbsp; the final product.&nbsp; now, lets see, who can we be sold to?&nbsp; to who?&nbsp; for how much?&nbsp; and why?&nbsp; oh yeah--put a bar code on our foreheads and get us fattened up and dumbed down for the market.&nbsp; and isnt montalk who introduced/coined this phrase, which in my mind, is my ultimate favorite&nbsp; &quot;THE PERFECT SLAVE DOESN&#039;T KNOW HE IS ONE&quot;--the perfect slave keeps working day to day to pay the taxes which pay for those monstrous stupid archaic rockets we just discussed.&nbsp; god. i love it.&nbsp; it goes round and round and round.&nbsp; its endless.&nbsp; this is the real stagnation, the real crime, besides all the other unbelieveable manipulations.&nbsp; its so funny--picture this--the footage of actual shapeshifting instantaneous turn-on-a-dime UFO&#039;s all over the place, the reports, the 60 plus yrs just lately (besides ancient historical stuff) of irrevocable weird truths and u watch em fire off a giant fuel guzzling penis-shaped clunker with a ton of smoke and exhaust with a roar that can be heard from cape caniveral to the sudan half the time and WTF?&nbsp; compare the 2.&nbsp; its hilarious.&nbsp; ok--im done.&nbsp; agree totally.</p><p>i read somewhere that NASA works thru luceferian vs satanic influenced calendars and has its links with the old ancient atleantean/egyptian priesthood (who i blame for most shit and monitor closely) and their launch dates r all synchcronized with stargates, and vortexes, and r calendrically calculated to the 10ths of seconds, etc.&nbsp; sounds like quite the expensive ritual doesnt it?</p><p>yes yes--im with u 100%.&nbsp; i dont however, have much sympathy for the astronauts tho--they must be part of it and gotta be wondering WTF themselves or? anybody that&#039;d work for or with THEM has to be on guard.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-09-11T21:48:03Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I noticed how stagnant we are a while back.&nbsp; A lot of it has to do with profits.&nbsp; For example, I once read in a science magazine an article about some guy that figured out how to manufacture gasoline.&nbsp; Wonderful, right?&nbsp; Wrong.&nbsp; That was a long time ago.&nbsp; We aren&#039;t using synthetic gas now because it would hurt oil company&#039;s profits.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-09-10T03:34:44Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>CNN: Falling foam no threat to shuttle Atlantis</p><p>hmmm</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-09-09T20:49:25Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lyra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>No attempts to return to the moon,</p></blockquote></div><p>I heard extraterresterials told us we couldn&#039;t stay.&nbsp; . . . &quot;silly earth people with their rocket powered technology . . . &quot;</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>lyra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>reasons why they&#039;re keeping us in technological stagnation,</p></blockquote></div><p>Knowledge is power - if we weren&#039;t in technological stagnation, it wouldn&#039;t be as easy for their &#039;tentacles&#039; to reach around us.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-08-17T23:37:26Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>montalk wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Lyra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Shouldn&#039;t we have conquered the solar system by this point??&nbsp; ??&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Maybe it&#039;s better we haven&#039;t yet conquered the solar system. Corporations would buy up real estate and planets would be given trademarked names like Marsbucks and McPluto.</p></blockquote></div><p>McPluto...that&#039;s good!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /> </p><p>After reading the article blurb bit that I posted, I began thinking about the space station deal, orbitting around Earth.&nbsp; Just further reiterates how much we&#039;re stagnating.&nbsp; Aside from failed Mars probes, and some probes to Titan and Jupiter, the best we&#039;re doing is to stick to orbiting the planet in relatively close proximity.&nbsp; I mean, it&#039;s cool to orbit Earth and see the great blue marble from that vantage point. It&#039;s nothing to sneeze at, but.........we&#039;ve already done it now, like 5,000 times. Where&#039;s the progress?&nbsp; &nbsp;What about the idea of taking things to the next level?&nbsp; Supposedly we went to the moon.&nbsp; But in the 30 years since that time, man hasn&#039;t left Earth&#039;s orbit. </p><p>??</p><p>No attempts to return to the moon, and still not one attempt to send a manned mission to Mars.&nbsp; We should have already BEEN to Mars and back by this point....and then some.&nbsp; &nbsp;We&#039;ve actually REGRESSED................all we&#039;re doing now is what they were doing in the early 70&#039;s....planetary probes, and orbitting the Earth. !!!&nbsp; &nbsp;But I don&#039;t believe it&#039;s for lack of technology or know-how.&nbsp; They know how to do it, and they have the technology.</p><p>What&#039;s going on here?&nbsp; &nbsp;Something is amiss.&nbsp; I just wish more people would question this and I wish it would get mainstream coverage.</p><p>When I stopped to ponder some reasons why they&#039;re keeping us in technological stagnation, I did come up with a theory.&nbsp; If I had to summarize the thought ball that flashed through my mind, it involves the idea of a very clear delineation and *branching off* between &quot;Us&quot; (humankind = sheep = the herd in the pen) and &quot;Them&quot; (the controllers, the sheepherder, the peeps who run the planet.)&nbsp; &nbsp;Before the mid-2oth century they controlled us, but they were still &quot;with us&quot;, if that makes sense.&nbsp; With us in the sense of being on the same level we are.&nbsp; &nbsp;But after all the alien schtuff since the 1940&#039;s, they have gone and branched off and are pretty much doin&#039; their own thing technology-wise at this point, hence the reason they&#039;re 30 - 150 years, maybe more, ahead of what we see in the &quot;real world.&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp;So they still control us...rigidily.....but they&#039;re no longer &quot;with us&quot;, and don&#039;t bother investing into the herd anything more than they absolutely have to.&nbsp; &nbsp;They drip feed us just enough so that most people won&#039;t think to ask questions, but that&#039;s about it.&nbsp; </p><p>It&#039;s like an emotionally absent parent.&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />&nbsp; I don&#039;t know, that&#039;s the analogy that came to mind.&nbsp; The parent who enforces strict rules, but at the same time who is in their own little world and who maintains a distance, not involved or even close to being on the same level.</p><p>Just my theory.&nbsp; Who knows.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-08-17T19:30:28Z</updated>
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			<updated>2005-08-16T19:13:28Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Lyra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Shouldn&#039;t we have conquered the solar system by this point??&nbsp; ??&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Maybe it&#039;s better we haven&#039;t yet conquered the solar system. Corporations would buy up real estate and planets would be given trademarked names like Marsbucks and McPluto.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-08-16T15:35:18Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>E3mpirical1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>In all honesty of this question, what was the reason, well the mainstream media reason, for the Discovery shuttle mission? I could really believe that it probaly was used for some sordof stargate project mission because I honestly cannot think of any GOOD reason why they would spend all that money to build a shuttle and launch it into space. What did they do, site seeing? Pick up a couple moon rocks?</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, I googled it, and this is one thing I came up with, (bolded words my own emphasis):</p><br /><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>article blurb thingy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>&quot;Discovery returned to earth on a wing and a prayer, rolling to a stop at Edwards Air Force Base, California 13 days 21 and one half days after its July 26th launch.</p><p>NASA posted this mission summary:</p><p><strong>Discovery spent two weeks in space, where the crew demonstrated new methods to inspect and repair the Shuttle in orbit. The crew also delivered supplies, outfitted and performed maintenance on the International Space Station. A number of these tasks were conducted during three spacewalks.</strong></p><p>In an unprecedented event, spacewalkers were called upon to remove protruding gap fillers from the heat shield on Discovery&#039;s underbelly. In other spacewalk activities, astronauts installed an external platform onto the Station’s Quest Airlock and replaced one of the orbital outpost’s Control Moment Gyroscopes.</p><p>Inside the Station, the STS-114 crew conducted joint operations with the Expedition 11 crew. They unloaded fresh supplies from the Shuttle and the Raffaello Multi-Purpose Logistics Module. Before Discovery undocked, the crews filled Raffeallo with unneeded items and returned to Shuttle payload bay. </p><p>Discovery&#039;s mission was successful according to Florida Today.</p><p>Even though Discovery performed with near perfection, NASA was lucky. Foam insulation that fell off Discovery&#039;s fuel tank during ascent and almost struck the ship in a near-repeat of Columbia&#039;s catastrophic damage.</p><p>NASA failed to solve the foam debris problem in the 2 1/2 years following the loss of Columbia. That is a problem NASA couldn&#039;t afford not to solve. It may be time for drastic changes at NASA.<br /><a href="http://cayankee.blogs.com/cayankee/2005/08/">http://cayankee.blogs.com/cayankee/2005/08/</a></p></blockquote></div><p>Bad writing aside <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> the gist seems to be acting as a liason to the International Space Station, delivering supplies and such.</p><p>I don&#039;t know, the entire deal, from the International Space station on down to the shuttle program seems like such a collosal, stagnating waste.&nbsp; Shouldn&#039;t we have conquered the solar system by this point??&nbsp; ??&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-08-16T07:11:39Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>In all honesty of this question, what was the reason, well the mainstream media reason, for the Discovery shuttle mission? I could really believe that it probaly was used for some sordof stargate project mission because I honestly cannot think of any GOOD reason why they would spend all that money to build a shuttle and launch it into space. What did they do, site seeing? Pick up a couple moon rocks?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[E3mpirical1]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-08-16T06:44:28Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>E3mpirical1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So yes, I actually did ask myself that question when they launched the shuttle recently. &quot;Why are we still using shuttles?&quot; Then again I think that what should be considered is that are these groups that are experimenting with technologies beyond somes imagination really have the responsiblity to release &quot;their&quot; discoveries? &#039;They&#039; obviously don&#039;t feel inclinded enough to share what they know or can do until people start saying WTF, &quot;Why are we still using space shuttles?&quot;</p></blockquote></div><p>I think it really all ties back to the fact that &quot;They&quot;, the people with knowledge about the true nature of things and the ones with the real power running the show, sincerely look down on the general population.&nbsp; We are dumb animals to them.&nbsp; &nbsp;They see us the way most people view insects.&nbsp; &nbsp;(looking for an example of something that most people have disdain for and no regard for - most people dislike bugs and squash them like they&#039;re nothing, without giving it a second thought.&nbsp; That&#039;s how they see us.)&nbsp; Understanding that mindset makes it clear why they don&#039;t share what they know.&nbsp; Some people mistakenly believe that they withold information from us because they feel the need to &quot;protect us&quot;, or prevent mass hysteria and loss of control.&nbsp; &nbsp;I say it&#039;s because they feel we&#039;re not on their level, so therefore we don&#039;t deserve to know what they&#039;re up to.&nbsp; They&#039;re the ones in charge, not us.&nbsp; They run the show, not us.&nbsp; We&#039;re like insects to them.&nbsp; So they don&#039;t HAVE to answer to us.&nbsp; &nbsp;It&#039;s none of our business in their minds.&nbsp; Go back to pen, with our movies and entertainment and media, with our celebrity worship, fashion magazines and slave jobs.&nbsp; Go back to chasing our tails in the wheel, serving them, until we die, the end.&nbsp; It&#039;s like a parent contemptuously brushing aside a pesky kid.&nbsp; Stop asking questions, you&#039;re too silly to &quot;get it&quot; anyway.&nbsp; Go back to your media and distraction, silly child.&nbsp; </p> <br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Menses wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Spot on Lyra...I was just talking about this on another board....What they are telling us vs What they have done...and will do is so completely different...it will make you kick yourself for not realizing it sooner...Wouldn&#039;t suprise me at all if Stargate technology is in use....in fact i heard something about Discovery&#039;s mission being related to that....</p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah, &quot;kicking myself&quot; is kind of how I felt once I started waking up, to put it midly. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />&nbsp; I just couldn&#039;t BELIEVE that I hadn&#039;t noticed so much of this stuff before.&nbsp; &nbsp;I always knew something was &quot;off&quot; about life, just like that speech Morpheus gives Neo in The Matrix, enough so that I persued alternative interests and shied away from a mainstream existance;&nbsp; but there was SO MUCH that still escaped me, until my awakening process.&nbsp; And when the awakening happened, it happened so FAST....within a matter of MONTHS.&nbsp; Things were coming together;&nbsp; books, websites and magazines were coming my way, situations and people were being arranged to help me along and provide another piece of the puzzle.&nbsp; So much, SO fast.&nbsp; &nbsp;And I remember being shocked when reading David Icke&#039;s &quot;The Biggest Secret&quot; for the first time during this period, because I had never noticed such a simple, obvious thing like the fact that so many corporate logos all use the same repeating symbolisms - pyramids, eyes, stars, torches.&nbsp; &nbsp;If a little thing like that could escape me, what about everything else that escaped me???&nbsp; !!!!&nbsp; It was like &quot;OH MY GOD..........I&#039;VE BEEN ASLEEP FOR 26 YEARS!!!!&nbsp; &nbsp;WHAT HAPPENED!!!!!!!!&quot; </p><p>Kick kick kick!&nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /> </p><p>As far as things like Stargate technology is concerned - you better believe they have some mega capabilities to do some incredible things.&nbsp; &nbsp; Not all factions though - only the ones working in cahoots with the non-human critters.&nbsp; The other factions have to beg, borrow, steal and finagle their way into the leftovers of the other faction&#039;s technology.&nbsp; &nbsp;Not all factions are created equal, and they&#039;re apparantly all at war with each other, from what I understand.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-08-16T05:57:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: NASA and the Shuttle program are a ruse]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Spot on Lyra...I was just talking about this on another board....What they are telling us vs What they have done...and will do is so completely different...it will make you kick yourself for not realizing it sooner...Wouldn&#039;t suprise me at all if Stargate technology is in use....in fact i heard something about Discovery&#039;s mission being related to that....</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Menses]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-08-16T04:03:56Z</updated>
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