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Q: Ethnobotanist and futurist Terence McKenna came up with a theory that
he dubbed Timewave Zero or Fractal Time, which was based on his work
with the I Ching; he discovered that far from being simply a
forune-telling tool, it was a 384-day, thirteen lunar cycle calendar
that could be used both for prediction and retrodiction. With this he
worked out a formal mathematical theory that portrayed a time wave
showing the ebb and flow of habit and novelty throughout history--times
of relative stasis and times of decisive change. Using this method,
which he incorporated into computer programs, he found that there was a
point at which the level of habit, or stasis, dropped to zero, and the
level of novelty reached its zenith: December 21, 2012. Apparently he
arrived at this end-date before he became aware that the Mayan Long
Count of 5,125 years also ended on the winter solstice of 2012.
Apparently, this date also coincides with an alignment of our Sun with
the Galactic Center of the Milky Way--a very powerful and rare aspect.
Speaking of this date in an interview, McKenna said: "What lies ahead is
a dimension of such freedom and transcendence, that once in place, the
idea of returning to the womb will be preposterous. We will live in the
imagination. We will quickly become unrecognizable to our former selves
because we're now defined by our limitations: the laws of gravity; the
need to eat, excrete, and make money. We have the will to expand
infinitely into pleasure, caring, attention, and connectedness. If
nothing more -- and it's a lot more -- it's permission to hope."
Michael, what's your take on this idea?
Michael 12/25/05:
Since time only has meaning within your plane, we see this date
(12/21/2012) as having meaning only to those who would award it power.
For a period of time only has significance if those within the physical
plane award it such.
Much was made of the "new millennium", yet it was, to us and others
within the other aspects of the pandimensional worlds, meaningless.
This occurrence (the connection of a date with an extinct calendar and
the scholar's readings of the I Ching) is just another pattern in a
world comprised of millions of patterns. That it has more meaning than
any of the other myriads of patterns occurring at any given time within
and upon your planet, is not true. That the scholar (McKenna) would
induce the populace to make much of this pattern, is. For if he can
convince enough like-minded individuals that this pattern is "real" then
does he stand a chance of making it also viable.
That this date has significance is not true. For it is the result of
much manipulation and theorizing. Scholars make much of theories,
however, as we have explained, theories come from the negative pole and
rarely are they made manifest.
That the Mayan calendar ended on that date was due to the fact that they
were no longer a viable race able to expand upon the work started. That
he (Terrance McKenna--a 3rd cycle scholar in the emotional part of the
moving center; a spiritualist with a chief feature of greed) has
"discovered" similar information from the I Ching is of little
importance. For we have stated previously that the I Ching, although
useful once, no longer holds applicable meaning to the current world.
Therefore, do we find that his theory is only that--a theory.
That the Earth will be centered within your galaxy at that time, is
true--or near enough that you will find little difference. That this
will give those upon the Earth unprecedented freedom is not. What it
provides and indicates is a balancing of the energies within your
galaxy. That this is a "normal" occurrence is not true, if by normal you
mean occurring on a regular basis. For it has occurred only twice
before--when your galaxy was originally created, and when the first
Infinite Soul was present within your galaxy.
The effect, if any, on those living within your galaxy should be
minimal. For most will not notice that the Earth now lies centered
within the very power that creates her. Rather, will they continue their
lives as if nothing else matters--and for them, nothing else does. The
impact is upon the planet and all the energy layers comprising her.
(As channeled by IM Light)
]]>If the truth can be told so as to be understood, it will be believed.
Paraphrasing the matrix movie,
"Unfortunately, no one can be told what truth is. You have to see it for yourself."
And that's what happens when you trip on mushrooms 
(If you are open to it, that is.)
]]>Re: Evolution
by Terence McKenna
Track 10 from the album "Boss Drum" by Shamen.If the truth can be told so as to be understood, it will be believed.
Human history represents such a radical break with the natural systems of biological organization that preceded it, that it must be the response to a kind of attractor, or dwell point that lies ahead in the temporal dimension. Persistently western religions have integrated into their theologies the notion of a kind of end of the world, and I think that a lot of psychedelic experimentation sort of confirms this intuition. I mean, it isn't going to happen according to any of the scenarios of orthodox religion, but the basic intuition, that the universe seeks closure in a kind of omega point of transcendance, is confirmed.
It's almost as though this object in hyperspace, glittering in hyperspace, throws off reflections of itself, which actually ricochet into the past, illuminating this mystic, inspiring that saint or visionary, and that out of these fragmentary glimpses of eternity we can build a kind of map, of not only the past of the universe, and the evolutionary egression into novelty, but a kind of map of the future.
This is what shamanism is always been about, a shaman is someone who has been to the end, it's someone who knows how the world really works, and knowing how the world really works means to have risen outside, above, beyond the dimensions of ordinary space, time, and casuistry, and actually seen the wiring under the board, stepped outside the confines of learned culture and learned and embedded language, into the domain of what Wittgenstein called the unspeakable, the transcendental presense of the other, which can be abstracted, in various ways, to yield systems of knowledge which can be brought back into ordinary social space for the good of the community.
So in the context of ninety percent of human culture, the shaman has been the agent of evolution, because the shaman learns the techniques to go between ordinary reality and the domain of the ideas, this higher dimensional continuum that is somehow parallel to us, available to us, and yet ordinarily occluded by cultural convention out of fear of the mystery, I believe. And what shamans are, I believe, are people who have been able to decondition themselves from the community's instinctual distrust of the mystery, and to go into it, to go into this bewildering higher dimension, and gain knowledge, recover the jewel lost at the beginning of time, to save souls, cure, commune with the ancestors and so forth and so on.
Shamanism is not a religion, it's a set of techniques, and the principal technique is the use of psychedelic plants. What psychedelics do is they dissolve boundaries, and in the presence of dissolved boundaries, one cannot continue to close one's eyes to the ruination of the earth, the poisoning of the seas, and the consequences of two thousand years of unchallenged dominator culture, based on monotheism, hatred of nature, suppression of the female, and so forth and so on. So, what shamans have to do is act as exemplars, by making this cosmic journey to the domain of the Gaian ideas, and then bringing them back in the form of art to the struggle to save the world.
The plant has a kind of intelligence, that it can actually open a channel of communication with an individual human being. The message that nature sends is, transform your language through a synergy between electronic culture and the psychedelic imagination, a synergy between dance and idea, a synergy between understanding and intuition, and dissolve the boundaries that your culture has sanctioned between you, to become part of this Gaian supermind, I mean I think it's fairly profound, it's fairly apocalyptic.
History is ending. I mean, we are to be the generation that witnesses the revelation of the purpose of the cosmos. History is the shock wave of the eschaton. History is the shock wave of eschatology, and what this means for those of us who will live through this transition into hyperspace, is that we will be privileged to see the greatest release of compressed change probably since the birth of the universe. The twentieth century is the shudder that announces the approaching cataracts of time over which our species and the destiny of this planet is about to be swept.
Timewave Zero
Space Time Continuum with Terence McKenna
Alien Dreamtime was a multimedia event recorded live on Feb 27th 1993
AD Web sampler at City of Tribes
Nirvanet Realaudio stream
Hello.. alright. Have you ever noticed how ahh, there's this quality to reality which comes and goes, and kind of ebbs and flows and nobody ever mentions it or has a name for it except some people call it a 'bad hair day' or some people say 'Things are really weird recently.' And I think we never notice it and we never talk about it because we're embedded in a culture that expects us to believe that all times are the same, and that your bank account doesn't fluctuate except according to the vicissitudes of your own existence. In other words, every moment is expected to be the same and yet this isn't what we experience. And so what I noticed
was that running through reality is the ebb and flow of novelty. And some days, and some years, and some centuries are very novel indeed, and some ain't. And they come and go on all scales differently, interweaving, resonating. And this is what time seems to be. And Science has overlooked this, this most salient of facts about nature: that nature is a novelty conserving engine. And that from the very first moments of that most improbable big bang, novelty has been conserved because in the very beginning there was only an ocean of energy pouring into the universe. There were no planets, no stars, no molecules, no atoms, no magnetic fields; there was only an ocean of free electrons. And then time passed and the universe cooled and novel structures crystallized out of disorder. First, [atoms; atoms of hydrogen and helium aggregating into stars. And at the center of those stars the temperature and the pressure created something which had never been seen before which was fusion. And fusion cooking in the hearts of stars brought forth more novelty: heavy elements - iron, carbon, four-valent carbon. And as time passed there were not only then elementary systems but because of the presence of carbon and the lower temperatures in the universe, molecular structures. And out of molecules come simple subsets of organism. The genetic machinery for transcripting information, aggregating into membranes, always binding novelty, always condensing time, always building and conserving upon complexity, and always faster and faster and faster. And then we come to ourselves. And where do WE fit into all of this. Five million years ago we were an animal of some sort. Where will we be five million years from tonight? What we represent is not a sideshow, or an epiphenomenon, or an ancillary something-or-other on the edge of nowhere. What WE represent is the nexus of concrescent novelty that has been moving itself together, complexifying itself, folding itself in upon itself for billions and billions of years. There is, so far as we know, nothing more advanced than what is sitting behind your eyes. The human neocortex is the most densely ramified complexified structure in the known universe. We are the cutting edge of organismic transformation of matter in this cosmos. And this has been going on for a while; since the discovery of fire, since the discovery of language. But now, and by now I mean in the last 10,000 years, we've been into something new. Not genetic information, not genetic mutation, not natural selection, but epigenetic activity: writing, theatre, poetry, dance, art, tattooing, body piercing and philisophy. And these things have accelerated the ingression into novelty so that we have become an idea excreting force in nature that builds temples, builds cities, builds machines, social engines, plans, and spreads over the Earth, into space, into the micro-physical domain, into the micro-physical domain. We, who five million years ago were animals, can kindle in our deserts and if necesary upon the cities of our enemies the very energy which lights the stars at night. Now, something peculiar is going on here. Something is calling us out of nature and sculpting us in it's own image. And the confrontation with this something is now not so far away. This is what the impending apparent end of everything actually means. It means that the denouement of human history is about to occur and is about to be revealed as a universal process of compressing and expressing novelty that is now going to become so intensified that it is going to flow over into another dimension.
You can feel it. You can feel it in your own dreams. You can feel it in your own trips. You can feel that we're approaching the cusp of a catastrophe, and that beyond that cusp we are unrecognizable to ourselves. The wave of novelty that has rolled unbroken since the birth of the universe has now focussed and coalesced itself in our species. And if it seems unlikely to you that the world is about to transform itself, then think of it this way: think of a pond, and think of how if the surface of the pond begins to boil - that's the signal that some enormous protean form is about to break the surface of the pond and reveal itself. Human history IS the boiling of the pond surface of ordinary biology. We are flesh which has been caught in the grip of some kind of an attractor that lies ahead of us in time, and that is sculpting us to its ends; speaking to us through psychedelics, through visions, through culture, and technology, consciousness. The language forming capacity in our species is propelling itself forward as though it were going to shed the monkey body and leap into some extra-surreal space that surrounds us, but that we can not currently see. Even the people who run the planet, the World Bank, the IMF, you name it, they know that history is ending. They know by the reports which cross their desks: the disappearance of the ozone layer, the toxification of the ocean, the clearing of the rain forests. What this means is that the womb of the planet has reached its finite limits, and that the human species has now, without choice, begun the decent down the birth canal of collective transformation toward something right around the corner and nearly completely unimaginable. And this is where the psychedelic shaman comes is because I believe that what we really contact through psychedelics is a kind of hyperspace. And from that hyperspace we look down on..., we look down on both the past and the future, and we anticipate the end. And a shaman is someone who has seen the end, and therefore is a trickster, because you don't worry if you've seen the end. If you know how it comes out you go back and you take your place in the play, and you let it all roll on without anxiety. This is what boundary dissolution means. It means nothing less than the anticipation of the end state of human history. A return to the archaic mode. A rediscovery of the orgiastic freedom of the African grasslands of 20,000 years ago. A techno-escape forward into a future that looks more like the past than the future because materialism, consumerism, product-fetishism, all of these things will be eliminated and technology will become nanotechnology and disappear from our physical presence. If we have the dream, if we allow the wave of novelty to propel us toward the creativity that is inimitable to the human condition. That's what we're talking about here: psychedelics as a catalyst to the human imagination, psychedelics as a catalyst for language; because what cannot be said, cannot be created by the community. So what we need then is the forced evolution of language. And the way to do that is to go back to the agents that created language in the very first place. And that means the psychedelic plants, the Gaian Logos, and the mysterious, beckoning, extraterrestrial minds beyond. Hooking ourselves back up in to the chakras of the hierarchy of nature, turning ourselves over to the mind of the total other that created us and brought us forth out of animal organization. We are somehow part of the planetary destiny. How well we do determines how well the experiment of life on Earth does, because we have become the cutting edge of that experiment, we define it, and we hold in our hands the power to make or to break it.
This is not a dress rehearsal for the apocalypse. This is not a pseudo-millenium. This is the real thing folks. This is not a test. This is the last chance before things become so dissipated that there is no chance for cohesiveness. We can use the calender as a club. We can make the millenium an occasion for establishing an authentic human civilization, overcoming the dominator paradigm, dissolving boundaries through psychedelics, recreating a sexuality not based on monotheism, monogamy and monotony. We.. All these things are possible if we can understand the overarching metaphor which holds it together which is the celebration of mind as play, the celebration of love as a genuine social value in the community. This is what they have suppressed so long. This is why they are so afraid of the psychedelics, because they understand that once you touch the inner core of your own and someone else's being you can't be led into thing-fetishes and consumerism. The message of psychedelics is that culture can be re-engineered as a set of emotional values rather than products. This is terrifying news. And if we are able to make this point then we can pull back, we can pull back and we can transcend. Nine times in the last million years the ice has ground south from the poles pushing human populations ahead of it and those people didn't f*ck up. Why should we then? We are all survivors. We are the inheritors of a million years of striving for the unspeakable. And now with the engines of technology in our hands we ought to be able to reach out and actually exteriorize the human soul at the end of time, invoke it into existence like a UFO and open the violet doorway into hyperspace and walk through it, out of profane history and into the world beyond the grave, beyond shamanism, beyond the end of history, into the galactic millenium that has beckoned to us for millions of years across space and time. THIS IS THE MOMENT. A planet brings forth an opportunity like this only once in its lifetime, and we are ready, and we are poised. And as a community we are ready to move into it, to claim it, to make it our own.
It's there. Go for it, and thank you.
]]>There are Old Energies that do not want to see this change. They can feel it coming, and they will resist it. We brought in the Pope last month because that is also a signal to the church that the change is now imminent. And, they don’t want to let him go because they know when he does, that it will bring changes in the church, changes that move towards this date, September 18, 2007. So, they are holding on.
The reptilians, the grays, these alien agendas that we talked about… they know it's coming also. Up until recently there has been doubt about when and even if. But they know it’s coming. They are going to make their presence known. They will be the ones trying to scare others and trying to say there is some great conspiracy. The ones who shout the loudest about the conspiracies are the conspirators!
Indeed, they are going to be writing the books under the guise of – how to say – spiritual and religious clothings. They are going to write the books that bring the fear about these events. They are the ones who are going to try to make all sorts of correlations between other events, other things that have happened before, perhaps even celestial alignments, and say, “This is the day of reckoning and judgment." They are going to try to scare humanity.
This is not a day of judgment of any kind. It is a day of celebration and transition. The judgment of any human is released on this day, if they allow it to be. That is what we are all moving towards. That is why you feel the energies intensifying around you right now.
( http://crimsoncircle.com/channelseries/ … y10-03.htm )
Here are some other excerpts pertaining to 2007:
So much is happening now, preparing for what you call the “quantum leap," what we are calling the shifting into New Energy – this time that we predict to occur sometime in the year 2007, perhaps a bit before, or a bit later. Somewhere in there a major change in the consciousness of humans… it is coming. You will see things speeding up, changing all around you.
And remember all of this time, remember, Shaumbra, it's not about you. It's the world literally, and the people upon it, and all the angels surrounding it who are getting ready for a major change. There will be humans who leave quickly, animals who leave quickly. Love them when they do. If you hold onto them, it makes their journey back to our side so difficult. Honor them for holding an energy for you for so very long. Things will continue to speed up.
Dear friends, now let us gather together the energies of Shaumbra, of all of you, all the ones who are sitting beside you who have left their physical bodies but continue to be such an important part of our work. Let us gather together the energies of Gaia for our Shoud on this day, for we are indeed one voice. We are many voices. We are family. We are on a journey together. We are in a moment here of sharing and of loving and of nurturing.
This is the time of split, as we would call it. It is the time of becoming two earths. And this is appropriate, for in your future, after what is projected to be the year 2012 - a time of quantum change - there will be two earths that exist, and they will no longer be side-by-side. They will not be in the same space together. They will be two after this date (2012). This date, as you know, is not fixed. It is simply a weigh point in the future. The final change could occur before this time, as early as the year 2007. But for now, we simply say we are at the midway point.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 5 (from the Internet): Tobias, there’s a popular book out decoding the Bible that interprets the end of the world as occurring in 2006. What is this really about?
TOBIAS: The energy of this book is very accurate… to a degree. But, it was written in the Old Energy. There are some misconceptions and some rather fearful things in here. What is accurate is the feeling that there will be a grand change in these coming three to four years. Some have predicted the quantum leap will be in 2012. In this decoding of the scriptures it is felt that there would be a date in 2006. We are seeing that it will be in the later summer of 2007.
But, it is a moving date. It is a moving point of separation. So do not hold to anything specific. It is not the end of the world. It is the beginning of a New Energy. It is a beginning of a whole New time. It is a beginning of a New consciousness on Earth.
Some humans will have a very difficult time with it. Some will rebel against it. Many will leave the planet. But, you, Shaumbra, because of the work you have done, because of our gatherings, will understand that it is just an entirely New Energy you are going into. We remind you once again, please, do not buy into the dramas and the conspiracy theories of all this. It is simply the evolution of divine consciousness.
QUESTION: Tobias, will we be able to fully experience the new energy in our current lifetime or will it take another eon of earthly time, such as the period of time between the Wall of Fire and now?
TOBIAS: It will not be eons of time. Most of you will begin to see it in your lifetime. You will come to that place of your own divinity. You may not see it in the world outside of your house, but you will see it within yourself. When you do, you will have a greater understanding of what is happening outside of you. You will be filled with compassion and understanding.
It has been prophesized that there is a turning point in your Earth, a quantum leap point in the year 2012. From the Crimson Council perspective we say that you are ahead of schedule. It will not be in eleven years of your time. You will begin to see the true quantum leaps closer to the year 2007, based on the changing human consciousness. This ties back into the first question. The closer you come to this point of quantum leap, the more conflict and turmoil you will see around you, but it does not have to be within you. This is an excellent question.
As we said before, it is not what happens on that date. It is the potential of what happens after that date. Things are moving from a vibrational energy where energies work off of each other to create a vibration that creates your reality. This will change… little by little… little by little. It won't change overnight. The New Energy dynamic will be integrated into your reality. It is an energy that currently exists in the space between the space of your particles… it sits there in a neutral state. Scientists can’t see it. They know something is there. They can’t see it because they're looking with Old Energy eyes.
After this golden door is opened, as you enter in this whole New era, you will know it’s there. You will begin working with it on a consciousness level. Some of you already are in what you would call more of the experimental levels. Soon enough, scientists will begin to see it and then begin to understand how they can apply it, perhaps not how it works, but how to apply it.
As we said before, instead of energetic forces opposing each other to create vibration and therefore reality, it will be that neutral energy is activated and expands/contracts all at the same time. That will create the New reality.
It is difficult to say how fast this will happen after this date of September 18, 2007. But it will bring amazing changes in technologies and medicines, and the healing arts. You will have access to whole types of new capabilities in the work you do with others.
It will change the way energy is used here on Earth. Right now energy is based so much on old fossil fuels – Old Energy – that are burned in order to give you mobility, to give you electronics, to give you any of the things that you use energy for. That will change too. It will take a while. You will see it in your lifetime. You will see the changes begin.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 1 (from the Internet, read by Linda): Tobias, many of us have sensed a huge potential for a dramatic change on Earth, impending maybe this fall even. Where is it that Shaumbra should stand with such a thing? And, is there such a potential there?
TOBIAS: Indeed, there are potentials, but we don’t want to get into the dramas. There are potentials right now of – how to say – much pent-up energy being released. And, this could be done in a variety of ways. It could happen through the Earth activities – earthquakes, or volcanoes, or grand storms. These are tremendous ways of releasing great amounts of pent-up energy.
There are the potentials this fall, in particular, of very – how to say – old conflicts coming back to the forefront. It is felt at some levels that not enough change has been made and not enough awareness has been brought to some of these difficult parts of the world. So, there will be a renewed effort to try to bring these back to the forefront.
We don't want to say that it is known that anything definite will happen. And, it does not have to be so dramatic. The fact that Shaumbra today can be here in this room and be listening and allow the changes to happen is so much more potent than the need for bombs or the need for other types of these disasters to take place. It can be said on an energetic level that there will be a great change this fall. And, we know this to be true. How the change comes about though is really up to humanity.
We ask during this period for all of Shaumbra to stand behind the short wall, to understand that there are no right or wrong, to literally embody all of the energies. And, then you will see a grander picture unfold before you. You will have more wisdom rather, than just seeing this as one side versus the other. There is so much going on, and it will continue to go on on a fairly frequent basis, not just in your early autumn months. But, it will continue to go on with increased intensity between now and September 18th, 2007.
So, this will be just one of many rather important times of change upon the Earth. There is no need to run for shelter. There is no need to make any particular preparations, for these things that will happen will not directly affect you. They will not directly affect your physical and mental well-being. They will directly affect other parts of the world, indeed. But, Shaumbra, you not need to get dramatic about these events. So, we ask you to simply take that deep breath, stand behind the short wall, and accept or understand what is going on with all of these events. There is no need to even become hysterical about them.
So, we thank you for your question. And, observe beyond the normal observation of what is really going on here with the understanding that human consciousness is ready to take a quantum leap within three years of time, and that many of the Old Energies seek resolution between now and then. Thank you.
Looks like this is mostly a matter of preference, like favorite foods or clothing styles or music. One person likes a black winter coat, the other a more colorful one, the first says the colorful one isn't their style, the second asks why the warmth of the coat was not addressed. Law of Allowance.
There's a difference of style between the channeled messages of "sixth density social memory complexes" like the Cassiopaeans, Ra, and Seth Two...versus the more personal styles of Tobias, Seth, various other disincarnates, fourth density beings, and spirit guides. The latter still have individual personality traits and emotional characteristics closer to our own, which may range from rational to consoling to jubilant. Both can impart similar content of information but through different styles. The first style is concise but dense or cryptic, the second style is more personable and comforting but also more repetitious and verbose. Different styles appeal to different people.
Well, although I was critical of the C's in my comments to Lyra, I actually have appreciated much of that material, particularly the earlier stuff. Ra resonates with me even moreso. I agree that Tobias can be long-winded; I've learned to sift through the channelings for
what I can use, and leave the rest. Anyways, I guess I'm pretty eclectic in my channeling preferences.
Getting back to the content, yes Tobias like many sources is saying a rapid shift has now begun, though adds that the height of this shift will be around 9/9/[9] -- interesting date, both symbolically and intuitively as judging by the way change has accelerated these past couple years, there's no doubt in my heart that by late 2007 things will be radically different.
Hmm, I missed that benchmark 9/9/09. Where did you find that?
Yes, I agree, things are speeding up and changing exponentially, we are in the "nanosecond" as the P's put it. Paradoxically, they say the answer to the current complexities is to slow, down, laugh, take it EZ.
]]>There's a difference of style between the channeled messages of "sixth density social memory complexes" like the Cassiopaeans, Ra, and Seth Two...versus the more personal styles of Tobias, Seth, various other disincarnates, fourth density beings, and spirit guides. The latter still have individual personality traits and emotional characteristics closer to our own, which may range from rational to consoling to jubilant. Both can impart similar content of information but through different styles. The first style is concise but dense or cryptic, the second style is more personable and comforting but also more repetitious and verbose. Different styles appeal to different people.
Getting back to the content, yes Tobias like many sources is saying a rapid shift has now begun, though adds that the height of this shift will be around 9/9/[9] -- interesting date, both symbolically and intuitively as judging by the way change has accelerated these past couple years, there's no doubt in my heart that by late 2007 things will be radically different.
]]>And yes, Orphicart, I think you are 'write on' in your assessment of this, thanks.
]]>Can someone please tell me what is "flakey", "flowery" or "New Agey" about that??
Well, since I'm the one who said it, I guess I will be that "someone" to answer your question.
It's just a matter of personal opinion being that you specifically recommended to me, lyra, a bit of channeling that you like. You don't have to take it personally or get upset about it, asking the forum for confirmation. It's like I said, "The C's have pretty much ruined me for all other channelling", which means I don't take too well to other forms of it. It's a matter of personal preference, based on their language and their personality. And yes, I do see a difference between the way that they talk and the way that other channells talk. One sounds like my own higher self. The others clearly do not.
But again, it was just my personal opinion, because you recommended something while mentioning my name specifically. However, a lot of people don't take too well to my straightforward way of answering / addresssing something. If I like something, I'll rave about it and let people know in an upfront way. If not, the same approach goes. 
No offense, but I think your reading of Tobias was superficial, Lyra.
The C's are much too much "read between the lines" (read: cryptic) for my taste. Tobias is much more positive, in-depth, and funny to boot.
There was an interesting comparison between the C's concept of Organic Portals and Tobias' concept of the soul-less ones. According to Tobias, both Adolf Hitler and Abe Lincoln were without souls. Now did the C's ever once give examples of OP's in history?
And see, here you're getting all miffed and taking something personally. Just accept that I don't resonate with or care for what you recomended. Don't take it as a personal attack. I don't tiptoe around stuff, which means if I like or don't like something I will always, always explain why. I explained why I didn't care for that particular channelling -- or MOST other channelling - and now it's been taken personally, and now we're getting into this back and forth, tit for tat "comparison" between The C's and other stuff. It doesn't need to be this way. For that reason, I'm exiting this thread.
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, even considered using the sick time as well...There's definetly a different "feeling" regarding time speeding up, dreamtime experiences on the upswing, and "bleedthrough".
The bleedthrough occurances have involved several family members noting that while walking in a crowd, others seem to not see you and bump into you. Like you're somehow not there!
Then there's a been more instances of family members "seeing" their guardian angels, feeling more sensitive to energy spots -2 or more feeling the same thing. The list gets bigger as time passes.
Lyra, I too have had similar dreams as you described-and my sisters as well. We feel that being aware and acknowledging blessings seen and unseen are very important at this point.
]]>This seems like a small thing, Shaumbra, but it is large. It will help you to understand consciousness. It will help you to understand how people act the way they do and how you see the things that you do. Old Energy is: God is power. New Energy, new consciousness, says that God is simply expression… expression… continually creating, and a creation that doesn't need power behind it. Power is an Old Energy concept.
Now, we have gone into the physics of energy with you. Here is a quick refresher. There is no energy. It doesn't exist. There is nothing but potential. “The field," the grid – whatever you want to call it – is nothing but potential in a neutral state of being, waiting to be activated by consciousness, whether it is group, family, or individual.
The true source of all is in a neutral state of being, all potential, all neutral. It has no agenda… it has no desires… it has no movement of its own until it is activated by consciousness. When it is activated, it takes on attributes of energy. It takes on different types of balances of what you would call positive or negative, plus and minus, masculine/feminine… however you want to term it. But, it takes on attributes of duality. And, then it goes to work.
There is always a balance of this positive to minus. Generally, as we have said in previous Shouds, there is a two-third/one-third balance. But, it is always changing. And, it tends to resort back to a two-third/one-third balance, whether it is a balance towards positive, a balance towards minus. But, that is an Old Energy attribute. That is the way the Old Energy world literally operates and is fueled.
But, now in the New Energy God is simply expression. It doesn't need power. It doesn't even need the old negative and positive. Imagine and feel for a moment, existing and creating in your world that doesn't need to activate negative and positive. It doesn't need the Old Energy balances. It operates in a New Energy type of expression.
You see, expression and force, or power, are two different things. We know we are dealing with semantics here. And, the English language sometimes is very limiting. But, imagine… feel for a moment operating in a synchronistic life where you don’t have power. It is simply pure, clear expression. That is one very important thing to remember. God is not power. God is expression.
Can someone please tell me what is "flakey", "flowery" or "New Agey" about that??
]]>Well, no offense, but that channeling sounds waaaay too New Agey for me. The C's have pretty much ruined me for all other channeling. Their responses, and the way they talked sounds pretty much identical to what my higher self sounds like, so for that reason I really can't read channeling that sounds all New agey and whatnot, using flowery, flakey language. An example of how the C's and my higher self sound in relation to the bezillion questionable head-in-the-clouds channeling that's out there - the answer are short and to the point, and pack a punch in very few words. Friendly and empathetic, yet cool and levelheaded. The answers may be short, but they're multi-layered - what's not being said is just as important as what is. And there's some "read between the lines" as well.
No offense, but I think your reading of Tobias was superficial, Lyra.
The C's are much too much "read between the lines" (read: cryptic) for my taste. Tobias is much more positive, in-depth, and funny to boot.
There was an interesting comparison between the C's concept of Organic Portals and Tobias' concept of the soul-less ones. According to Tobias, both Adolf Hitler and Abe Lincoln were without souls. Now did the C's ever once give examples of OP's in history?
]]>E3mpirical1 wrote:Lyra that's interesting that you and your friend were able to confirm something. Thing is, why do you hope that your 'ability' friend did not have the same intuition as you?
Because what I felt / intuited from my own dream was that everything I'm doing now comes to a screeching halt as a result of the changes. Here I am just getting going with things, getting on a roll, and it all comes to a grinding halt. And that's what I was asking my higher self........"Why?? What was the point of doing any of it??"
The answer,
"The experience of it!"
Oh, I said in response, pondering it. It made sense to me. Okay, I can accept that. And that was the end of the dream.
I'm still going to do the things I was planning to do though. For one, because the dream may not be accurate. And also because...well.....even if it is true, like I was told, it's "the experience of it." We take for granted that we still have years and years left to our lives, when in truth, any of us could die next week. Tomorrow. An hour from now. It's not normally guaranteed anyway that we have all the time in the world and will get everything done that we want to get done. So even if the dream doesn't end up coming to pass, which is what I hope happens, it's still a valuable lesson.....don't take your time for granted, make the most of every moment. Don't go through life with the attitude that you have years and years. In the Toltec practice they refer to it as "death is stalking you". The true warrior knows this, and lives their lives accordingly. I'm aware of it, but flounder on it all the time!
E3mpirical1 wrote:think a better qestion would be what is it exactly that is going to change, I mean obviously the current way of life but rather change to 'what'.
I don't know. I don't have an answer to this. Like I said, I was veiled from seeing / hearing anything, or getting any details. And I think that was for a reason - freewill violations and all.
I shouldn't have even posted anything about it at all actually. I even had an ear ringing in my left ear when I was typing that post. Shouldn't have done it......
E3mpirical1 wrote:I have no fear of whatever happends. I may sound ignorant but I look forward to this time of 12-16 months from now.
I'm not saying you should have fear. In fact, I specifically said several times in my post that people shouldn't have fear.
See, this is why I shouldn't have posted it..............
No, I don't see why you shouldn't have posted it. Why should you not have?
Actually the fact of the matter is that you did post it. So maybe there is a reason that you should have posted it and not should not have posted it.
But I'm still interested to hear why you think you shouldn't have posted it?
]]>Hi Lyra, enjoyed your post. I just finished reading a new Tobias channeling, where it's predicted that the quantum leap would happen September 2007:
http://crimsoncircle.com/channelseries/ … t07-05.htm
Now, for all Shaumbra who are ready, we’re going to move to the next level. And, this is a good thing and an easy thing. For all Shaumbra who want to go on this next portion of the journey, as you know, we are fast approaching September 18, 2007, the quantum leap of human consciousness. That is why things seem to be so erratic and chaotic lately.
And, again we say that this is a blessed event. It is not the end of Earth. It is only the end of consciousness as you have known it. It is the beginning of the new times literally, the beginning of the New Energy way. So, things are shifting quite a bit right now.
Hmm, who knows? I guess we will each experience this when we are ready. Different probable timelines. Anyway, lots of other good stuff in that chenneling, I think.
Well, no offense, but that channeling sounds waaaay too New Agey for me. The C's have pretty much ruined me for all other channeling. Their responses, and the way they talked sounds pretty much identical to what my higher self sounds like, so for that reason I really can't read channeling that sounds all New agey and whatnot, using flowery, flakey language. An example of how the C's and my higher self sound in relation to the bezillion questionable head-in-the-clouds channeling that's out there - the answer are short and to the point, and pack a punch in very few words. Friendly and empathetic, yet cool and levelheaded. The answers may be short, but they're multi-layered - what's not being said is just as important as what is. And there's some "read between the lines" as well.
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