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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I was sad to read this, as well. I sensed she was getting very popular, very quickly. With good reason, of course, but as others have said, becoming magnetic has its challenges.</p><p>In a certain way, I appreciate her withdrawing to a large degree in the face of this. I seem to feel moving away from &quot;fighting&quot; and into a more peaceful and true response to the sort of attacking she&#039;s had, is in line with growth. Mankind tends to see it as a weakness to retreat, or that by doing so the &quot;other side wins&quot;, but I don&#039;t necessarily see it that way. Fighting something is just the other side of believing in it - both keep the thing alive. If it&#039;s really not what you want, you choose something <em>else</em>. And she may well be doing that.</p><p>In a way, she&#039;s really just reflecting a truth: &quot;If that&#039;s how you want to be, you can&#039;t have this. If <em>that&#039;s</em> your choice, this doesn&#039;t align with it.&quot; It should disappear from the landscape for those attacking.</p><p>Another thing she&#039;s reflecting here, perhaps, is that - as she has often said - it&#039;s not about her, it&#039;s the energy and she just gives it voice. By removing herself from the arena of attack, she&#039;s sticking to that message that it&#039;s not about her.</p><p>LIFE does this withholding our desires from us pretty regularly, it seems to me. And when it happens to us, we seek ways of regaining whatever it is we lost sight of, by taking more responsibility for ourselves, so we can enjoy what we want. (Something about the eye of an needle just popped in for me)</p><p>She maintains the tone and energy of what she offered in the mass energies, it&#039;s just more difficult to access. Interesting turn of events. Thanks for posting, Jen.</p><p>~Sowelu</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Jen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thanks for your post, Lyra, you make many great points, and&nbsp; it&#039;s personally helpful to me, as I&#039;ve been experiencing my own version of attack in my life (roommate stuff, sigh).</p></blockquote></div><p>You&#039;re welcome.&nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />&nbsp; Yes, the roommates thing.......have been there myself.&nbsp; Roommates is a big avenue for energy feeding and problems, that&#039;s what I&#039;ve concluded!</p><br /><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Jen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I re-read Karen&#039;s previous energy alert, The Darkness, which I had posted here, and was struck by these parts......Sounds like Karen is presently being very challenged to live the truth of those words.&nbsp; Easier said than done?</p></blockquote></div><p>Yup, things are always easier said than done.&nbsp; I find it easy to give advise to others, knowing what to do and what not to do, but it&#039;s not always easy for me to do it myself.&nbsp; &nbsp;I wrote this one article in particular which has greatly helped and influenced people that have read it, but I myself have to keep going back and re-reading it to remember what I wrote so I can live it!&nbsp; It&#039;s so easy to get overwhelmed by 3D and forget what we know.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Jen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Whatever, I hope she finds some relief and peace, and I&#039;m glad that she will continue posting the energy alerts at her site at least once a month.</p></blockquote></div><p>That does sound like a reasonable compromise.&nbsp; &nbsp;Still, if it were me getting attacked, not only would I <em>not</em> cut back on things in any way, but I&#039;d double my efforts!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />&nbsp; But that&#039;s just me though, hehe..........</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>At least she is still intent&nbsp; on releasing the articles once a month, that much is reasonable. I&#039;ve seen others get frustrated and throw everything out instead of streamlining. Karen Bishop seems like a kind and giving person, and while that kind of compassion attracts through resonance others equally as warm, it also attracts through polarity the opposite: abuse by the selfish and attack by the negative...and in some cases crucifixion by the ignorant. There&#039;s now way to avoid the latter, as this world is theirs and anyone spreading awareness is treading on snakes. It does take a wise, positive, resillient, and battle-ready mindset to be a standard bearer, and usually the compassionate people get burned repeatedly until they gain the necessary wisdom.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-07-27T21:02:34Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lyra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>She doesn&#039;t elaborate in any detail about what exactly was happening, she only says &quot;my audience has <br />become highly demanding, ungrateful, critical, attacking and hostile........&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>It&#039;s too late to change her mind, but I&#039;m going to say this for all others reading this who may find themselves in a similar situation:</p><p><strong>When you&#039;re out there promoting a message of knowledge, awareness and no fear, you have to understand that&#039;s going to attract the attention of the negs.</strong>&nbsp; It&#039;s inevitable. It&#039;s a fact of life. They come in many shapes and sizes, from psychic / astral attacks, down to actual people that have &quot;stuff&quot; working through them.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks for your post, Lyra, you make many great points, and&nbsp; it&#039;s personally helpful to me, as I&#039;ve been experiencing my own version of attack in my life (roommate stuff, sigh). </p><p> I re-read Karen&#039;s previous energy alert, The Darkness, which I had posted here, and was struck by these parts: </p><p><strong>&nbsp; Knowing that its time is over and it is on the way out, the darkness is trying <br />everything possible to sabotage the plan, one might believe. Or perhaps it is just <br />too arrogant to even see that it can no longer exist in these higher realms.&nbsp; Or <br />maybe it is attacking all the new bearers of light as they are gaining great power <br />now, and the new leaders need to be stopped by the fearful darkness.</strong></p><p><strong>But I see a different scenario.&nbsp; We are entering into big &quot;shake-up&quot; energy.&nbsp; <br />Much, then, will be brought to the surface for release, within us and without.&nbsp; As <br />whatever is within us is now revealed and illuminated, it is flying around and we <br />are feeling it at some level.&nbsp; We cannot feel and experience what we are not.</strong></p><p><strong>I personally have experienced and believe that every energy and entity around <br />us is simply a part of us that we chose to own or not; even the angels and our <br />&quot;guides&quot;.&nbsp; Ultimately, we are everything in all ways. Yes, the other version is <br />much more romantic and dramatic, but energy is always simply energy, with no <br />meanings but what we may give it...And again, I repeatedly see that as the old world crashes, tumbles and comes <br />down, we will be safe, secure and in another world of our own making, as we are <br />going ahead of the masses and embodying more light.&nbsp; This then will place us in <br />a space where much may be swirling around us, but as we have very little of <br />&quot;darker or denser&quot; energies within us, we will not be affected.&nbsp; We will not feel <br />this crashing down of the old in the physical as much because we cannot feel <br />and experience what we are not.</strong></p><p>Sounds like Karen is presently being very challenged to live the truth of those words.&nbsp; Easier said than done? Or perhaps the course she is taking is the only reasonable one under the circumstances.&nbsp; Whatever, I hope she finds some relief and peace, and I&#039;m glad that she will continue posting the energy alerts at her site at least once a month.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Jen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;d like others&#039; input into the question of whether she&#039;s been under attack by the STS forces, perhaps precisely because of the threat her work poses to their control and dominance.</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, yeah, that&#039;s how it goes.&nbsp; Making a dent in fear and bringing awareness to people is always a threat to the controllers who want to keep the general population cowering in the dark.&nbsp; &nbsp;It&#039;s to be expected.&nbsp; </p><p>I realize that not everybody has the same tolerance level, but for me, I wouldn&#039;t cave in so easily.&nbsp; In fact, the more opposition I get from negs, the more I keep going and plowing forward.&nbsp; It&#039;s in my nature to be persistant and stubborn.&nbsp; I&#039;m very resiliant and tough.&nbsp; &nbsp;In a way it could be called fighting a battle.&nbsp; And I didn&#039;t go through all the trouble of incarnating here and wading through the muck of my earlier years only to become a quitter who runs the other way as soon as the negs show up.&nbsp; &nbsp;!!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>She doesn&#039;t elaborate in any detail about what exactly was happening, she only says &quot;my audience has <br />become highly demanding, ungrateful, critical, attacking and hostile........&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>It&#039;s too late to change her mind, but I&#039;m going to say this for all others reading this who may find themselves in a similar situation:</p><p><strong>When you&#039;re out there promoting a message of knowledge, awareness and no fear, you have to understand that&#039;s going to attract the attention of the negs.</strong>&nbsp; It&#039;s inevitable. It&#039;s a fact of life. They come in many shapes and sizes, from psychic / astral attacks, down to actual people that have &quot;stuff&quot; working through them.&nbsp; They will do whatever they can to get you to stop -&nbsp; saying nasty things, being beligerant, attacking your character, your work, your beliefs, mocking you, trying to make you feel stupid, trying to push your buttons and find your weak spot, try to get you so frustrated and flustered and hurt that you just want to turn tail and run to get away from it.&nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>But you can&#039;t give in to them.</strong>&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Because then they&#039;ll win, dammit!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />&nbsp; Obviously.&nbsp; &nbsp;But also because when you look closer, their schitck is tired and predictable.&nbsp; It&#039;s SO predictable.&nbsp; &nbsp;Their entire method of operation is by-the-book, and there&#039;s no improvisation to it.&nbsp; Author Robert Bruce talks about this point actually, the lack of improvisation in the way negs operate.&nbsp; They are not creative by any means.&nbsp; &nbsp;They recycle the same old tired predictable nonsense in the same exact way with everybody they go after. </p><p>If only more people would wake up to this!&nbsp; &nbsp; All of a sudden instead of getting hurt and flustered and upset they would <em>laugh.</em>&nbsp; &nbsp; Seriously, it would actually become funny to see the same old tired routine repeating itself in such a wide variety of people.&nbsp; All saying and doing the same things, in the same way, with that same nasty hostile look on their face.&nbsp; &nbsp;You get to a point where it just becomes sad and pathetic and funny, and you see it for what it is................just a neg, trying to insure its survival.&nbsp; &nbsp;No worse than a mosquito.&nbsp; &nbsp;Swat it away, buh bye, next!&nbsp; &nbsp; And once you have that realization, you no longer even get the feelings of frustration and hurt and being flustered.&nbsp; Its not a matter of trying to hold your head high and ignore it and not let it affect you....because it just <em>doesn&#039;t </em> affect you anymore, period.&nbsp; &nbsp;Do mosquitos generate an emotional response in us?&nbsp; &nbsp;No.&nbsp; &nbsp;Swat, buh bye, end of story.&nbsp; Next!&nbsp; </p><p>That&#039;s the only feedback I can really offer in this situation.&nbsp; &nbsp;It&#039;s a shame that Karen Bishop caved in so easily, but hopefully my words will affect even one other person out there who may find themselves going through a similar situation.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve posted a couple of the Karen Bishop energy updates here at NR, and I&#039;ve always felt she was making a great contribution to our awareness of the dynamics of the transition to higher ways of being.&nbsp; However, I was surprised and saddened to get this from her yesterday.&nbsp; I&#039;d like others&#039; input into the question of whether she&#039;s been under attack by the STS forces, perhaps precisely because of the threat her work poses to their<br />control and dominance.&nbsp; </p><p>I&#039;ve pasted in the update below.&nbsp; Excerpt: </p><p>For the past several months, as my audience has greatly grown, what has come <br />along with the energy alerts has turned the experience into one of negativity and <br />unpleasantness.&nbsp; Yes, I still love writing and narrating them, but my audience has <br />become highly demanding, ungrateful, critical, attacking and hostile.</p><br /><p>July 27, 2005<br />A Bittersweet Good-Bye</p><br /><p>Greetings!</p><p>It is with great regret that I inform you of the discontinuation of the What&#039;s Up On <br />Planet Earth? energy alerts in audio format and via written e-mail format.&nbsp; They <br />will now only be offered through viewing them once per month on the What&#039;s Up <br />On Planet Earth? website.&nbsp; You will no longer receive them via e-mail.</p><p>Although I knew that I would be moving on into other endeavors, and had chosen <br />the audio format as a transitional method for a few more months, the decision to <br />discontinue the energy alerts earlier than planned was greatly supported by <br />recent changes in the attitudes and behaviors of my audience.</p><p>I have always loved and felt oh so much at home giving out the most recent news <br />of our evolutionary process, and for me, it was a joy and pleasure I cannot <br />describe.&nbsp; Being in my joy and passion alone, created so much more in the way <br />of beautiful and surprising by-products as well.&nbsp; I was truly blessed.</p><p>For the past several months, as my audience has greatly grown, what has come <br />along with the energy alerts has turned the experience into one of negativity and <br />unpleasantness.&nbsp; Yes, I still love writing and narrating them, but my audience has <br />become highly demanding, ungrateful, critical, attacking and hostile.</p><p>The energy alerts gradually became an unpleasant experience for me.&nbsp; Therefore, <br />as of today, I will no longer be accepting audio subscription payments or provide <br />the option for receiving the written alerts via e-mail.</p><p>For audio subscribers, I will be providing audio alerts for three more months, as <br />that is what you have paid for.&nbsp; When your login expires, you will not be able to <br />renew.&nbsp; And as for the written alerts, you will need to check the website <br />periodically to view the latest message.</p><p>I ask that you PLEASE DO NOT E-MAIL ME regarding any suggestions, opinions&nbsp; <br />or further complaints regarding this change, as I have certainly explored all <br />options and am very comfortable with my decision.</p><p>I only express how saddened I am at the circumstances surrounding this <br />decision.&nbsp; Although very aware that I was moving into new territory for myself and <br />would making changes with the energy alerts, I only wish that I could have <br />moved on under more joyful conditions.</p><p>I will still be offering the e-course, Remembering Your Soul Purpose / A Part Of <br />Ascension as well as offering this information in workbook format, and will notify <br />you via e-mail when these learning tools are available. There will also be up-<br />coming classes in the works.</p><p>For those of you who greatly benefited from the frequent energy alerts and <br />appreciated them, I wish you well and know you will either find many of your <br />answers within yourself or find another source that nourishes and supports you in <br />an on-going way.&nbsp; It is also my hope that a once-per-month energy alert will also <br />provide many of you the opportunity for accessing your own individual power and <br />guidance during these unusual and trying times.&nbsp; </p><p>I greatly look forward to continuing to offer you the latest and most helpful <br />information for your ascension process, if only once per month.</p><br /><p>Are you ready to create the New World? Are you ready to share<br />your contribution through your passion and joy?</p><p>I thank you for sharing in my joy of being me through this energy alert.&nbsp; Many blessings, <br />much peace and incredible joy in these miraculous times,</p><p>Karen </p><br /><br /><p>Visit the What&#039;s Up On Planet Earth? web site at:<br /> <a href="http://www.whatsuponplanetearth.com">http://www.whatsuponplanetearth.com</a>.</p><p>Contact Karen at Karen@whatsuponplanetearth.com</p>]]></content>
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