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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>i have the same problem with songs getting stuck in my head.&nbsp; <br />but there are also certain phrases or statements that i have heard over the years that stay with me for some reason.&nbsp; from stuff i heard as a real young kid, like in school, to things that i heard a friend or complete stranger say.&nbsp; it&#039;s never anything really &quot;profound&quot; or whatever, but just everyday talk.&nbsp; and some have been incorporated into my being and reflected in my opinions.<br />it&#039;s like they have been burned into my memory for some reason.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[tengberg]]></name>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>its interesting i know. What was really funny was one of my experiences in a out of town doing some drugs. I was alone still looking for answers of my sufferings and life and what happend was really interesting. I did LSD for the very first time in my life after reading some book named Uncommon Wisdom by Fritjof Kapra who also happens to be one of the author for the source of the article for nexus called soul ark 33. And I tell you who ever change songs or control everyone else also fights you in a thought battle and you give in you loose but if you carry on like a warrior remembering your priorities and what you really want out of life you could always fight back. But what happend&nbsp; that time was interesting. I beat all my thoughts with positive feedback of love and peace and believe in myself and then for a little while I felt so special cuz I was sitting at a beach alone there was not a sign of life except for these small bugs who light up themselves i don&#039;t know what you call them in english. So, they were like all around where i was sitting and it was really dark around 11:30 and It was really dark with no street lights nothing on this bench and i had this small torch so it wasn&#039;t any problem for me to guide myself to the bench i sat on. Now, as I was sitting there thinking about the painting the SUN and the Moon by Leonardo da vinci and how all those thoughts arised in me were pushing me to make a choice between these two side which I call the Father and Mother. </p><p>It was a very beautiful windy night and around me were huge hills filled with greenery and the whole place was surrounded by clouds of dark grey and black clouds and there were this friggin lightning except for the place where I was sitting it had literally opened up like a dome with soo many stars that gave me a feeling of being in space cuz i have never seen soo many stars in one place that too in an opening of clouds like a dome and it made me feel really special. And then I happend to record some of my conversation with the self in my mp3 player which also records voice and it has a mic. And I remember myself saying I feel like GOD and did that sun and the moon posture thinking about why he drew that painting in anger and I recorded some conversation with self and guess what. I recorded it and I saved it so I listen to it later when am done with my trip like tomorrow. And the whole recording of mine disappeared from my mp3 player as if I didn&#039;t know what I had recorded ofcourse I remembered everything. See how deep the system goes....</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-01-21T16:37:01Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>EON wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>And it just proved me that even the songs in my IPOD are manipulated thru people inserting their choice of songs</p></blockquote></div><p>Interesting!&nbsp; I&#039;ve had this happen frequently to me too, except I don&#039;t know whether it was regular &quot;humans,&quot; at least as we know them, responsible.&nbsp; &nbsp;Often, though, I&#039;ve been in the car listening to the radio, and a particular song would come on that matched something I was thinking just too perfectly.&nbsp; &nbsp; For me though, it&#039;s been done with the apparent intention of reassuring me about things or injecting humor into a situation.&nbsp; &nbsp;I&#039;ve had negative manipulations in other spheres of life, but not in the synchronicities that involved music.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[morningsun76]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-01-21T08:00:34Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>hey! everyone...</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp;I am a little bit curious too. Herez something what I found out. I listen to music all the time infact I have ear phones plugged into my ears most of the time. The reason I do that is since, I understand most of the talk that goes around me and knowing that they are always pushing my buttons trying to trigger things in my mind or control me. I rely on my lil Ipod to keep on feeding music to it. Sometimes I lie down and listen to music without any thoughts and observed something and am just wonder if someone agree to this with me that do we have two different aspects of us in one body. Like lets say you are listening to a song that is food for your ego and you will hear when you pay too much attention that some of the words are reinforced in the background like real slow behind the real words that are spoken aloud and this will happen in my right ear. So, basically song is playing in both the ears but some of them go a lil loud in the right or the left and this whispering words are either meant to hit your right side or the left side of the ear.</p><p>And am pretty sure what am writing I have observed this most of the love songs will have whispering words of the songs reinforcing in the left ear behind the songs loud singing lyrics. </p><p>Now, even tho! I listen to ipod all the time sometimes people try to piss me off and they know what songs I hear when am mad. The other day I was walking on the street this guy just came up to me almost hitting me and I had this ear phones plugged and he is like laughing at me and shit trying to piss me off and the other dude is showin off attitude. I was still lost in the song and they jsut went by but that image of them doing what ever they did stuck in my mind and what happens next is that a song when am angry i listen to starts playing by itself. And it just proved me that even the songs in my IPOD are manipulated thru people inserting their choice of songs or to pull out a certain behaviour in me and instead of being angry in that situation i was laughing insdie of myself thinking how stupid the sytem is to think like a kid and this store keeper started sniffin and shit and he looked a lil pissed off. It fueled me more to act in myself always.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-01-21T07:45:10Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Very good point Kinsei. Don&#039;t know why I didn&#039;t mention that. It&#039;s harsh. Like... sandpaper on your eardrums.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-01-21T05:52:40Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>There&#039;s another serious problem with white/pink noise to keep in mind, and that&#039;s hearing damage.&nbsp; Since white noise represents every frequency, your ear has to work incredibly hard to process it.</p><p>If you listen to stuff like that, keep it at a low volume, and don&#039;t subject yourself to it for too long at a time without giving your ears some rest.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-01-21T03:43:48Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>First, congrats for diggin&#039; up a thread so old. I guess that&#039;s alright.</p><p>Noise music. Isn&#039;t that the same as hard metal? I kid, I kid.<br />I&#039;ve listen to pink noise generating programs before. White noise, pink noise, for binaural experiments. Afterward, the silence seems very silent, but I wouldn&#039;t encourage longterm use of white or pink noise. Its true that I can help block EVERYTHING out, but it&#039;s also deconstructive to creativity. It&#039;s just pure lack of order. Wouldn&#039;t it be better to calm your mind and take ownership of your own mental chatter?</p><p>Meditation is a tool you can use.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-01-20T22:42:07Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone ever listened to noise music?&nbsp; Music created for the purpose of being noisy and random.<br />I read on this forum often that it&#039;s important to find silence and let go of the constant mind chatter.&nbsp; I think that it&#039;s possible that noise can help.&nbsp; When I&#039;m listening to chaotic noise in my room or in the car, my mind is always trying to find patterns and grasp onto something.&nbsp; It would be trying to find the loop I guess you could say.&nbsp; After a short period I naturally give up in trying to find the loop and there is a certain ease.&nbsp; It&#039;s like the noise sweeps my mind clean, and afterwards it is much easier to attain an empty mind.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-01-20T16:01:59Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If I want to stop the loop, that is the music from looping around in my head, I simply sing along out loud. This seems to do the trick <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[impatiens]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-07-11T21:03:06Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Song loops are good if I choose them.&nbsp; Mostly I choose instrumental music.<br />Songs with words can be distractions, energy wasters, hypnotizers or<br />motivators.&nbsp; The key is to choose.&nbsp; That&#039;s why I wear earplugs whenever<br />I go into a store or place that has its own programming going like:<br />&quot;You&#039;re listening to KROGER radio, and now here&#039;s a suggestion for whitening<br />your teeth over in the pharmacy isle...&quot;&nbsp; Or the Walmart Radio Network.<br />Radio Network my a**.&nbsp; This is nothing but bombarding us with bullsh*t.</p><p>The music you listened to when you were younger and the music you listen<br />to now becomes &quot;The music of your life&quot;&nbsp; and if you&#039;re not careful, you&#039;ll start<br />trying to make reality (or your perception of it) fit the music you&#039;ve got<br />jammed into your brain.</p><p>Montalk your suggestion about becoming aware of your surroundings and<br />your other senses when you get one of these loops going is an excellent<br />technique to stop it.&nbsp; Thank you for that suggestion.</p><p>Don&#039;t get me wrong, I LOVE music.&nbsp; It&#039;s like a DRUG to me.&nbsp; So I have to<br />be careful with it.&nbsp; </p><p>TP</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tom Paine]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-07-11T18:51:12Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Sombody who I don&#039;t remember, told me that a repeating song loop is a symptom of a aneurysm. Some common type. But what the heck, if it&#039;s a good tune, go with it.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-07-11T08:59:55Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I believe snippets of songs easily cause loops in consciousness because music is very emotionally charged.&nbsp; A piece of music, if it resonates with a person, stimulates the emotional centers and emotional body of the aura.&nbsp; I&#039;ve noticed that thoughts generally don&#039;t have much power unless there is an underlying powerful emotion, or if I&#039;m reacting to it with powerful emotion.&nbsp; ...Thoughts are the show, emotions are the go...</p><p>I also usually suspect psychic interference/attack if I find myself in a mental loop.&nbsp; At the least, it tells me that that song stimulated an energy in me--lit up a string of programming or perceptions, positive or negative, that is literally sucking my attention into it.&nbsp; If I withdraw my attention, put it elsewhere, and the song loop comes back then I know that a part of me is still &quot;lit.&quot;&nbsp; I also try grounding the energy of the song out of my aura, or the energy that is lighting up/powering the thoughtform that is sucking my attention into it.&nbsp; I also try grounding out the thoughtform that the energy of the song might be lighting up--it may be a perception I don&#039;t really need or wasn&#039;t put there by me.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-07-11T01:13:21Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Someone I know who did a ten-day vipassana retreat said he was constantly getting song loops in his head during meditation, all of which were thematically related to the experience he was having.<br />It became comical.</p><p>Whatever causes them to be difficult to extinquish is surely also the reason they are used to teach little children things, like the alphabet and tricks to remember spelling rules and formulas.....<br />and certainly marketers know jingles work wonders.</p><p>I also know that when a person sings out loud, they use a part of the brain that is only used when singing.</p><p>That&#039;s my useless two cents.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[tillibullu]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-07-10T20:03:45Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>One thing I&#039;ve noticed that&#039;s kind of disturbing is when I&#039;m in a store that&#039;s playing muzak, the song will always be in my head after I leave. Sometimes I won&#039;t even notice the song until after I&#039;m out the store, and wonder where it came from in my head, and only then realize it was playing in the store. This is disturbing to me because it shows how open a person&#039;s subconscious is to outside influences. If a song gets caught in my mind so easily, what other kinds of thoughts am I letting in without discernment?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-06-30T11:15:15Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic replies!&nbsp; My negative view of these occurances did not allow me to consider that some of them may be messages from a guiding and/or positive source.&nbsp; With this knowledge I will explore this new avenue.</p><p>One other thing I noticed is that these songs carry a strong energy.&nbsp; And now that I see both ways, I have noticed that the song driving my nuts from the barber shop does not feel good at all, whilst on the other hand this little uplifting score of music from a television show called &quot;Doctor Who&quot; pops into my head a lot and it is so moving and energizing it makes me buzz with energy and puts me into a fantastic mood.</p><p>montalk: thank you kindly for you guidance on how to handle these when necessary.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-06-30T00:44:50Z</updated>
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