**hugs** back atcha,
Jen

We are beautiful and amazing - and we are caught.  Its not that we are good or bad, or smelly, rich, or fertile.  We are just all mixed up and it's us.  This is what we are here to see. Both the brilliance and the suffering.  The neurosis and the wisdom is hard to see because the underlying energy is the same.  We can be free, unburdened, energized, or petty, narrow and stuck. There are so many teachings, meditations and instructions.  What's the point?  The point is to be honest and wholehearted about what is in your own mind.   That is you.  Nobody can sort out for you what to accept and what to reject.  You can go round and round in repetitive misery or ecstasy.  What is poison and what is medicine? We are all different so it boils down to how what's going on in our own mind right now.  We can if we try, see the wisdom in no escape.

You know Jen, each of us has all that it takes to become fully awakened.  We have it......  Sometimes it manifests as brilliance and sometimes confusion.  We can sort this out - what to accept and what to reject.  We know what will make us complete, sane, grown-up people, and what will keep us children forever.   We can listen to all the beautiful and crazy people out there.... and then we can listen to our self.

**hugs**
Sheesh

By "lift-off" I think Blue means going 4D.  Anyway, here's some further communications between the transcriber, R, and myself.

Sigh....quote function not functioning...again...

Hi R, the basic problem I have with Blue's perspective, is that I am quite certain that no soul
ever leaves earthly life if it is not their time to go.  So, to see the loss of life as unfortunate, or as
a "marker" of how badly we are doing globally, is mistaken, I feel. 

Also Blue still seems to hold to the "one world" p.o.v.--no mention of the splitting of the worlds,
which is spoken of in many other sources, i.e. Revelation by David Spangler, which came out in the
mid-70's. 

At the same time, I'm currently reading "The Yoga Of Time Travel" by Fred Alan Wolf, in which he
writes:  "It seems to me that God requires a great number of focal centers in order to awaken from the
illusory trap of material existence."   He says that "God has become trapped in spacetime, fully aware that
he or she would become so trapped and willing to have it happen." 

But, death itself is an illusion, since we are not our bodies, so perhaps we can be "focal centers" for this
awakening even when we are not embodied.
And, R's response:

you are absolutely correct, on another level everything is all complete, good , bad and ugly

but there is more to it than this

but you see we are the god ... and trapped we are ....

there is a universal clock
the train arrives soon
god needs to embody 7.2billion people
to become fully realised material and non-material

Earth needs to merge/ascend with her higherself as we need to also
the problem is we have lost the keys ..

i.e. 7.2billion people need to get on that train

yes there are parallel universes and earths

Earth
Tara
Gaia

Tara and Gaia are considered future-selves, but the future is coming to us in 2012
the future will be our past ... remember Alice passed it 10min ago, when will she get there if she is already there.

Tara is considered purgatory/limbo land .... Gaia is where Earth and Tara need to be ..

they all line up as the gears mesh in 2012 and become one

but in order to jump across you need the keys to the temple

this is where KYSOYS comes in

sure you can die and go back into the all that is
but never become full realised god experiencing matter

those who feed of us, don't want this to happen as they will disolve if we go
as they do not have the keys and need to hijack us/planet

so it is a matter of perspective

sorry if i sound incohesive, as am in a rush

i know it sounds ike a lot of ego and us vs them, but ont he same token it isn't ... it is us vs us.

it's all about memory ..... self-imbedding / symmetry / self incursion ....

the generator of dreams can not lose the memory, otherwise will have to reload the operating system and what a big task that is ...

Jen again:  So, it seems that what it comes down to is needing enough embodied souls (7.2 billion) to become fully realized.  As I said, I have my own doubts about this...but it does seem that the PTB are doing their best to kill us off,  hm?

Whatever...I don't see that Blue has any answers for how to deal with this.  Obviously, we can't control others' lives or deaths...

Hummmm......   Well, I don't see loss of life.  How can that be when life is eternal?  Ok maybe I'm mincing words here but then....  what the heck is "lift-off".  Maybe all that are leaving IS the lift-off.   I have faith in my higher self and it's plans for my journey.  Maybe all that are slated to remain are young people who can repopulate?  So many questions, so little time.  From my view, Blue has no more a clue than anyone else.

I remember Y2K when people sat breathless at their computer at midnight of 12/31/99.  Then.... zip, zero, nada.

No, I'm not suggestion anything except to go with the flow and negate fear.  Everything will be just fine.

KYSOYS = Know Yourself, Own Yourself. 

Jen:

Have a question re the Blue material.  From reading some of the posts, it seems that Blue has a bleak perspective
on our future--that this is doomed to remain a prison planet.  Is that what you think?  Or is is possible we can avert
this,  with KYSOYS,  living in the present etc.?

R:
as you may have read, i can spend pages on this subject, and it is in the end only up to us, individually and globally to decide our own fates.

blue told me that 2000/2001 was the point of no return marker and the iraq war and USA military dominance cemented it.

up to this "point" the energy required to slow or stop was deemed adequate ... we are now beyond this point. i.e. the energy required enmasse to stop/reverse wil lnot be enough to completely halt/reverse the situation ... maybe slow it down so little damage ... but the further we progress globally down this road ... sudden impact will occur

this does not mean that we can not still solve the issues .... however there will be collateral damage

some stats ....

prior 2000/20{R 01 the max loss of life gloablly would have been half-billion
currently we are stitting loss of life 2-3billion

i don't wish to sound negative, but blue indicates to me that if we don't get back on track by 2007 .... then by 2012 loss of life will be approx 5-6billion

yes!! that's right almost the whole globe with only pockets here and there survivng, approx 500-million to 1billion at the max.

so, on a global conciousness level we are shooting ourselves in the foot, and as time goes by our future is in our past ..

now you speak of the individual level, and you are correct .... will you be one of the 5-6billion or one of the surviving 500million

and this is entirely up to you .... flow ... right place right time all that manifesting stuff ...

blue never really gets down to individualism, but rather kept everything on a global level other than to say if worst comes to worst the highest numbers of survivors will be southern hemisphere.

so yes KYSOYS may help make you one of the survivors ... and most definitely the more the better ....

you see we need a global population of 7.2billion for lift off

they are trying desperately to make sure this does not occur .... war and blackplague-like diseases will be rearing their ugly heads

and unfortunately all this "UFO's to save us" will not happen ... we must all standup, grow spines, and do it ourselves.