Two nights ago something intriguing happened which I thought I would pass along for consideration...

... The littlest noise will make me jump out of my skin and create an instant adrenaline surge and panic feeling.

Huhn... two nights ago from yesterday was Sat. night, right? Sat. afternoon into the evening was difficult for me and my man-critter.... especially him . We both felt like we were getting zapped... constantly, for hours. ZZZZZTTT'ing on our very last nerves. We were both very edgy and jumpy, his eyes made him look like he was coming unglued. And yeah, with the noise thing too, the past coupla days I've been sitting in silence because every sound seems like it's amplified, in a grating way.... it's weird.

As far as the neg messages gig, let me tell you, yesterday was NOT a happy day at my pad .... I'm sure shoo-whee'd that was only a day trip, I'm back to my snip-snap happy self today!

Anyway, not the same as your "electrocution" experiences (with the kinda Pavlovian thing you've talking about), but there's enough of a similarity, and timing, to comment.

The only thing I can offer up is to suggest to try to not get mad at it, them, what's happening to you, etc.   (weird synch as I was typing this....I'm in an office on the second floor, have the window open, which has a screen on it.  A bee of all things was hovering outside my particular window, moving up and down and all around, trying to find a way in.  !   There's a long row of windows to choose from...I find that interesting...I went over to the screen, like Hey, how's it going, touching the screen, and he/she took off.  Weird!)  So ANYway, yeah, when you feel rage or anger or frustration, that only eggs them on.   The key that I've found from personal experience is to not feel anything at all towards them, or what's happening.  That's how I got all of my overt "stuff" to stop.  I had a lot of obvious out-in-the-open craziness going on, which stopped abrubtly the second I no longer cared and saw through it.

Now, my stuff is covert, but I'm still not mad, not in the least bit.   My attitude is, "Hm, well, just gotta find a way around you..."   And when I do, it will be a calm side-stepping, on my way, thank you very much. 

Try to see them as mosquitos.  We don't get mad at mosquitos, because a mosquito is just trying to survive.  We know that, it's nothing personal.   Well, so are "they".   "Just doin' ma job, ma'am."   So, get yourself some Hyperdimensional Deet, and find a way to side step them. 

I am, quite frankly, ready to kick some ass. And that's SO unlike me. (Bats eyelashes.)

Anyway, I feel relieved to know of this latest round having so closely resonated with your experience. There are differences, for instance, my mind control involved religious fronts, I don't have the "shocks" in an obvious way, but the timing seems to be generally around the same time.

Lyra, I've had the absolute terror reaction when someone walks through the bedroom door a couple of times,

Tell me about it, it's just not natural.   When that happened to me, I was so jumpy about it I couldn't even talk to Tom at first.  I just stared at him, bug eyed, my nerves standing on end, heart racing.  Finally I managed to say something, and all I could say was, "You scared me!!!!"  I mean, it was just so weird.  The reaction, me saying that, it's not the normal me.   It's a sign of something, that's for sure.

Finding ways to combat this is a good goal I think.  I'm at a loss, because it's so powerful that even when I KNOW it's happening, I can't seem to fight it..........which is programming in itself.  "You are powerless to fight back...you have no will......you are weak, you can't do anything about this....." and so on.   

I had a creative energy surge this weekend, and finally decided to sit down and begin writing the content for my website which is in the works. 

ALL of my creative energy suddenly was sapped.  I mean, I was on "E", seriously.   I felt SOOO blank, empty and numb.  I couldn't do ANYTHING.    I had no will, no drive, no desire, no energy, no nothing.  I ended up having to go to bed, because I was useless to do anything.   The pendulum confirmed that I've had programming to not move forward with my website plans.   Everytime I normally try to do it I find myself sitting in front of the computer with repeating thoughts going "YOU ARE CRAZY.   YOU'RE INSANE.  EVERYBODY WILL THINK YOU'RE INSANE, LOOK AT YOU, LOOK HOW STUPID THIS IS, YOU'RE NUTS, YOU'RE CRAZY, YOU'RE STUPID, YOU'RE INSANE, EVERYBODY WILL THINK YOU'RE CRAZY, EVERYBODY WILL LAUGH AT YOU....."  ahhh.  I end up just feeling deflated and then never make any progress with it.

I know that I've had related programming before, because I've woken up in the middle of it and "busted them" in action.  I caught them programming me with "YOU WILL ONLY SEE WHAT'S WRONG AND UGLY IN THE WORLD..." or something to that effect, trying to get me to only focus on what's negative and bad.   So, this programming is very real, I know that.   Anytime anybody has even mentioned me having my own website over the past 2 years my instant reaction has always been to get these big wide eyes and practically back away from them, immediately going "NO!  NO WAY.   Absolutely NOT.  I don't want to be one of those crazy chicks you always see on the 'net."

??  In retrospect, I'm finally seeing that it was programming.   That wasn't my own response.  It doesn't even make any sense when you think about it! 

You're welcome.  I'm glad it helped someone.  Sometimes one can feel nutso posting this stuff. 

I was tossing and turning around 5 - 5:30 a.m., unable to sleep, which is really unusual, especially considering I went to bed at like 12 a.m.  I sleep well, and don't normally experience insomnia.  So this night / early morning as I lay there I decided well shoot, since I'm just laying here, maybe I could try to connect with my Higher Self.  Make myself useful!    Be productive.   I haven't done that in awhile, but in the past I've had a lot of success when I have tried.  I've definitely connected with it and received valuable feedback and useful information which changed the direction of my life in a positive direction.

I soon drifted off onto other thoughts though - it could have been a light sleep, I'm not sure.   If so, it was light enough that I was able to snap out of it and be like, "Oh yeah....gotta connect to my Higher Self!  Okay, here we go, connecting to my higher self...."

Then I began to try to "tune in."    I do this by thinking a declaration of sorts, "I'd like to connect to my (STO) higher self..."

WELL!!!   As soon as I did that, BAM!   My body felt like it was being electrocuted.

I lay there in bed, feeling immobilized by the electrical feeling that coarsed through my body, jolting me.   There was also the sound of a far off "growl" too.  Like some low, short burst of growl.   I couldn't pinpoint the location.

WTF?  I thought as I was jolted in my bed, ears trained on the dark to the sound of the growl.   WOW!!! 

Me being me of course, tried again!   "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again!"

"I want to connect to my Higher S...."

BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ   Electrocuted.   Again.  Body immoblized, the bizarre feeling all over my body of electrical energy.

Anyway, to make a long story short, I oddly enough wasn't fearful, and just persistantly, doggedly kept trying, over and over.   So much so that at one point I was mentally YELLING over the electrocution feeling, "IIIIII - WANT - TO - TALK - TO - *MY - HIGHER - SELF!!*  (DAMMIT!) "      No fear though, just persistance.  Almost like a little kid, persistantly insisting on something, over and over, knowing they will get their way eventually.  After trying over and over again, I did finally get to a point where I did NOT experience the electrocution feeling, and even paused in my mental yelling, looking around, thinking,"WHAT?   Nothing??  Oh come on!"  kind of joking like, where'd you go?  Did you already give up? 

I also did a mental scan in my mind's eye to find the source of that growl I heard at the start of it all.  I did expect to see something.........yet came up with nothing.   There was nothing there, no "entities" around, no "Grays" or "Reptillians".  Nothing.   Just me, my bed, and the electrocution feeling everytime I uttered the no-no words.

The next day it was suggested to me that maybe that was in fact, programming I was experiencing.  I nodded, like "Oh yeah, definitely, I'm sure...."

But it didn't really "click" what that meant.  Not until a little while later in the day. 

I remembered first off that I've woken up with the tell-tale bruises over the past couple of weeks, as well as unnatural "skittishness" and "jumpiness", which is not normal.  For instance, Tom came in the room, and I fully expected for him to be coming in the room, and yet I practically jumped out of my skin when he did.  Something about the sound of him coming through the bedroom door so suddenly just freaked me out.   Again, I'm not normally like that, that's not a normal reaction for me, or probably for anybody!................but I do get like that, skittish, jumpy and anxiety prone, in the days / week following an abduction.  The littlest noise will make me jump out of my skin and create an instant adrenaline surge and panic feeling.   My cat will have it too at the same time...and she was like this lately as well.    So, I knew that I'd most likely been abducted during this time period, probably not just once, but several times.  I have signs of programming in my day to day life, stuff to keep me from doing productive, positive things that I need to be doing and other stuff.

So I knew that I had recent abduction and programming going on.  To try to summarize what I think was actually happening then -- as totally crazy as this sounds, I'm sure -- I think that I was programmed, via electro-shock treatment (because that's how they do it) to not do certain productive, positive things anymore.  And connecting with my higher self was one of them.

Because the second I tried to do it, it was like my body relived the programming, and I felt like I was being electrocuted in my bed.  Every time I tried to utter the words in my mind I was cut off with the feeling of being electrocuted.   

I used to engage in a lot of positive type behaviors that are beneficial for positive soul evolution, and over the past few months, things have been very wacky.  I can practically feel the programming, "You have no will to do that...you won't do that...you can't do that....you have no energy to do that...."   I used to have enthusiasm and a draw to persue these things, now, if the thought does manage to cross my mind the feeling I get is heaviness, immediately pushing it aside and blanking it out and feeling numb, blank and empty, immediately finding something else to focus on instead.  That's not natural for me.

But that's how programming works.   

Until you get awareness of it.  Then you can break it.     Anyway, just wanted to pass that along, as totally nutso as it sounds. (I did confer with my pendulum, which sadly enough, confirmed what I just relayed here.  That's why I decided to post it, because I'm 99% sure this is what the explanation is.)

Is anyone familiar with the effects of using a led pipe for water flow?

i'm sorry I just get overwhelmed with this info.

Apparently the "99% Inactive Ingredients in most (but not Tom's of Maine) toothpaste is aluminum dioxide. Aluminum has been long considered the chief suspect in the development of Alzheimer's.

Alzheimer's has stolen much wisdom from our elders. It would seem that facilitating this disease may have been done on purpose to deprive current generations of knowledge that might have helped us. Alzheimer's breaks the links to our lineage.

ya, and the bad thing is that for millions of Earthers there's virtually no way to avoid the harmfull effects of:

- fluoride in the tapwater

- chemicals in the air

- EM frequency manipulation

http://www.royalrife.com/toothpaste.html

Alzheimer's has stolen much wisdom from our elders. It would seem that facilitating this disease may have been done on purpose to deprive current generations of knowledge that might have helped us. Alzheimer's breaks the links to our lineage.

As for me, I'd rather see bad teeth than a blank stare any day.

I can't wait for this to get going! Like lyra, I'd like to get up to speed on mind control and this forum is great for seeing what others have discovered.

okay, here's something I discovered that's on topic.

www.educate-yourself.org points out how advanced technologies are being added to regular cell-towers enableing them for ELF (Extremely Low Frequency) transmission.

They also list a plethora of orgone energy devices including the 'holy-handgrenade' used for transmutation of negative energies into orgone 'love' energy.

I have personally verified the existence of this ELF technology with at least one real individual who has his own seperate sources of information. George Humphrey is the author of 'End Game of the Illuminati: Our Choice - Fear or Love?' and the video '9/11 - The Great Illusion' and has informed me that he too is aware of a plan to hold down the level of vibrational conciousness on a mass scale using advanced ELF technology.

ALSO -

Chemical additives which have been continually ingested by two and a half generations of people on this planet are responsible for countless ill effects on the human organism. Fluoride, aspartame, and mercury are but a few of these silent killers we have learned to live with.

I often wonder to what degree each of these chemical additives are directly responsible in aiding mind control on a mass scale . . .

One of the things that Cooper says at the beginning is we are victims only so long as we believe we can be or are victims…he looked at the audience and with so much compassion said “you have the power“?.  One person asked about free will to say no (just say no lol) to abduction.  Yes Cooper said, it does work, but only if you believe, really believe, that you have the power to say no.  He said many have tried that and still been abducted be-cause they believed more that they were powerless. 

So we ask questions like is incarnation a choice or not, how is the present energy vortex affecting me,  all of the questions we ask as a result of believing there is a force outside of ourselves that is more powerful than we are, which means when the abductor comes we really do believe we are victims. 

The prospect of such experiences(abduction) highly motivates me to look for answers in other places.  The prospect of being on a table somewhere while others are doing things I would rather not have done, and knowing that I have not been able to piece the puzzle together by any means I have done so in the “past“? encourages me to “see“? the moment I am in on a moment to moment basis.  Probably never have been as dedicated to that as I am “presently“?.    The only thing that has power over me is by my permission and I want to re-member how to re-call that permission.

After reading that article I feel motivated to post something about my experiences, and how they correlate to the Helmut Lammer material, and other material I've come across on this subject.   

Some things Helmut talks about either in the above posted article or in his "MILABS" book, which I've seen or experienced to some extent:

"MILABs have ''not only'' alien abduction experiences, they report that they were kidnapped by a certain branch of human/military personnel, they were drugged, taken to hospital like rooms and (under)ground military facilities, they saw men in white lab coats, they were examined, interrogated and sometimes implanted with military devices."

I have had "dreams" in the recent past where I am wandering around some hospital place, walking down the hall, through some double doors, looking into the window of some room that has equipment in it and the lights out.

Had a dream as a kid (which I've mentioned here before)  where I was in some huge place that was like the size of a warehouse or something, and there were adults in white coats.  I was standing there looking around while two of them talked, waiting for them to lead me to where we were supposed to be going.

Another memory when I was really little, like no older than 3, lying stomache down on a table in a small room with lights but no windows.  There were several people around me in white coats.  I wasn't scared or terrified or anything, but I wasn't bursting with fruit flavor either. 

-  In the book "MILABS" there's this brief reference to MILAB abductees remembering being in some place with gangways / walkways, whatever you want to call it. 

When I read this, I remembered a memory flash I had back in 2000 one night when I was relaxed.  One minute I was lying on my bed with my eyes closed, relaxing.   The next, I see myself standing in this huge place that has no windows but has lighting.   Maybe underground?   When I look down I see that I'm standing on metal grating on some walkway  thing up in the air.   There are escalator type metal grating stairs in front of me.  I'm just standing there, on this walkway looking around at this huge place, in a daze.  The same feeling as those "hospital" dreams I would have later.  It's like I'm allowed to wander around and explore in my sedated state, because what am I going to do.........?   Run off.......??!?   ha!   

"Is there a military interest in developing brain implants, virtual reality bio-chips, holographic image projection, cloaking devices, mind altering weapons,...which would support the hypothesis that such secret experiments on humans are going on hidden inside black projects?"

Cloaking devises - I once mentioned on this forum that I had an experience where someone was in my apartment, and had arrived via my walk in closet with a bang and a crash.  The closet door was open, enabling them to leave the closet if they wanted and enter the apartment.  I kept getting glimpses of something black and shadowy moving very quietly and slowly over  outside my closet area.   After that, I made sure to always keep the door closed.

As far as holographic projections are concerned......absolutely.  This is something my brother relayed to me back in 2001, said they were doing this.   I can confirm that the various technologies I've read about they do actually possess.   Implants, thought modification/voices, cloud shaping, cloaking/invisibility, "Beam me up Scotty", etc. etc.   

These people have too much time on their hands is all I can say.   They waste all their time messing around with stupid technologies, experimenting on the population at large to test them out, and for what??   Seriously, why?   Stupid question, I guess.    They love the power.   They feel the need to derail people who otherwise would have done positive things had they been left alone.  Did I mention power?   Yup.   That's a big one.

Anyway, just some random things I thought I'd write about.

I'm telling ya!  On the heels of the past week reading his stuff is pulling together a lot of memories/occurances in a way that actually makes sense to me, and I just can't believe it!!  Will wonders ever cease!!

It finally makes some kind of sense now with all the pieces coming together; though sense as in: some questionable "puzzle pieces" (i.e., humans and grays both being perps, along with other issues/pieces), pieces I couldn't see fitting together before because of their "form", are now layed out before me creating a complete picture. And I can look at the picture objectively.  Whereas making sense of it subjectively cannot yet be focused on as objectively... if that's even possible, but I do feel encouraged that it can be possible.

I'll have to dig and explore how in the bigger picture this can all become absolutely sensical. I fall back on the old questions, though rhetorically, "Where is the Christian God in all of this?  Where is Buddha, Allah, Christ, etc. in all of this mess?"  "Where in THE HELL is my Higher Self in all of this????"  I know I'm not alone in asking these questions, they're questions that have been asked infinitisimal times.  And I also don't mean to be disrespecting any of the aforementioned spirits/people, but these are very real human questions!  I see they are and have been asked on this forum board before for one reason or the other, not just about this subject matter alone.

lyra, and any others that can comment, since you've "read the book" and have surely thought about it, can you even see a bigger picture and make sense of it yourself?

I hope it isn't too personal of a question to ask, but what gets you through your day? 

At what point do your thoughts become organized enough to function like a "normal" human being? I ask this question this way hoping to avoid a blanket response of "I do it just because I have to", something I myself have said many times over. Although if that's where you're at too, then that's all you could share.

I ask these questions of you because you've openly discussed some instances in your life of MILAB and alien agenda abuction... and also because of your "picking up the slack" comment.

I've tried before to see the bigger picture as "Everything happens for a reason" and "I agreed to this experience before I ever came to life, sooooo...", with FAITHFUL acceptance of those notions (and this may very well be the bottom line regarding the topic material as my core being instinct tells me), but if I don't challenge myself now given I have surmounting questions about my current belief system and this subject matter (heavy sigh... and even further) just because I won't know what to "believe in" then (and this would be the "brick wall", the growth impediment I think I'm experiencing), then I may as well be just as blind as one who is led by the false precepts of organized religion.  I'd just be a sheeple of a different FRE... LOL!!!

You know, it's funny because I did all those jigsaw puzzles the beginning of this month because I knew I needed to focus... it must've made for good practice!  And last night I just had to have a new one, and I bought a bigger and harder jigsaw puzzle (Snicker! Snort! Though not as hard as the one I had in my other hand, a round fractal one) to, well, challenge myself. hehehe.... I wonder what this focus will bring to me?

manyeagles,

I may have to get out my six pack of "Cling-on Begone" hairspray for this one!