I thought that the Matrix 2+3 lacked the feeling of awe from the 1st one. All of a sudden there are ghost, vampires, sexual deviants. I wanted more of the mythos from the 1st movie.

I think the idea of the matrix was great, but was originally deviated in the first episode.

Even if this movie makes you think, why would you want to wake up, when the other side is darker and makes you more unhappy than the illusion?Do you remember that scene when they eat disgusting food, and one of them says something like: "I don't see the point of getting out of the matrix"?
When I watch the movie, I have the same feeling: what's the point anyway?

I think this movie brings that idea in your subconscious, especially for those sensitive people who feel there is a trick in the way we are told reality: "Waking up is worse than sleeping guys!".

When I "extract" my mind from the matrix in meditations, I just feel love, and I can feel how love is deviated here in this matrix and used in the wrong way.

The movie tells you: "Illusion feels good, reality is cold and dark", when truth is just the opposite!

I think most of us were caught by this lie, because our mind classifies automatically this movie as "good".

Thank you Lucifer, another one of your subtle trick...

Morihei Ueshiba

In 1904 war broke out between Russia and Japan . Morihei enlisted in the army but was rejected for being a fraction under the minimum height requirement of five feet . This infuriated him . Eager to serve his country , he trained vigorously , alone in the mountains , and even hung for long periods of time by his arms from tree branches hoping to stretch his height .
With his second application he was accepted as a reserve . His hardworking attitude and extraordinary skill soon drew the attention of his superiors , and he was quickly promoted to sergeant . His skill with both the sword and bayonet guaranteed his promotion , yet the same skill kept him - against his wishes - off the battlefield : he was not sent to fight because he was considered too valuable as a teacher for other soldiers . When after repeated requests he was eventually sent to the front lines , he amazed his comrades by running directly into the attack . He claimed that when close enough , he could see the path of the enemy's bullets - a flash of light just before the bullet arrived . The bullet , he said , would follow the path of that light and if he dodged the flash of light , the bullet would miss him . This was the first evidence people had of his extrasensory ability .

Extract from "The Spiritual Foundations of Aikido" William Gleason  http://shobu.org/sensei.php

We all know how impactful this movie was. We all like to think we know why. Some consider it "cool" just for the moves and some are interested in it because of the analogy it uses that is very very similar to the situation as channeled sources present.

But my reason for posting this is for a different reason. The sequels to the initial movie is where my concern lies. Did any of you notice how #2 + #3 declined 200% in creativity and innovation compared to the original? Almost like the REAL Matrix Control System said, "enough of this", and affected the makers and producers of the sequels to completely sell out. "Sell out" is actually the best way to describe it if I didn't consider the conspiracies that could be discussed to maybe conclude that further elaboration of the "The Matrix" was cut-off. As if the original artistic merit of the initial was intentionally being ignored for the following two.

I'm rambling, but did others notice this? They went from "HOT" to "COLD", with a small transition that makes me wonder.

I thought that the Matrix 2+3 lacked the feeling of awe from the 1st one. All of a sudden there are ghost, vampires, sexual deviants. I wanted more of the mythos from the 1st movie.

I downloaded "The Invisibles" and haven't read it yet, but here is the included summary. I will probably upload the series in sections on divshare, then give the links for anyone else who wants to read it.

I, for one, would appreciate that very much FYM.!

[Comics] The Invisibles ("The dopest shit ever")

What if every conspiracy theory you ever heard was true?

No, wait, what if every crackpot idea you ever heard, conspiracy or not, was true?

No, no, wait! What if every idea, period, you ever heard was true?

If you can stretch your brain around that concept, you would probably enjoy comic book amuteur Grant Morrison's epic series, "The Invisibles."

The Invisibles is a mind-blowing mix of drugs, occultism, UFOs, voodoo, sexual excess, Witchcraft, sadomasochism, body modification, movies, government conspiracies, Lovecraftian horror, numerology, Gnostic cosmologies, anarchy, Mad Science, time travel, superheroes, Freemasonry, the Apocalypse, plus some stuff that's just plain weird.

The Invisibles[/center]

From:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invisibles

I am currently re-reading it at the moment and still find new stuff in it. Not bad for a 'comic book'.

Atlantis wrote:

Some perspectives

http://www.probe.org/docs/gnostic.html

Um, ok, this website belongs to "Probe Ministries" who describe themselves as follows:

Mission
Probe's mission is to present the Gospel to communities, nationally and internationally, by providing life-long opportunities to integrate faith and learning through balanced, biblically based scholarship, training people to love God by renewing their minds and equipping the Church to engage the world for Christ.

The essence of the article is that The Matrix is not a Christian movie, and that the Gnostic texts, particularly the Gospel of Thomas, describe a Jesus unlike the one described in the four "official" gospels chosen from many by the early Roman church at the Council of Nicea.   After a brief commentary on Gnosticism, the article concludes:

You can or better have to bypass the Church.
However you have to take God and the Christ energy very serious. 

Jezus and Christ are symbolic/allegoric terms to explain the truth about free will and the fall of man.

The Gospel of Thomas is very allegoric, containing a lot of truth.

Yes, that's the reason why I posted this website URL. 

It gives a lot of stuff to think about what the difference is between the Church Christianity Matrix-Christ and the Christ as a higher-dimensional force used by the Gnostics.

Some perspectives

http://www.probe.org/docs/gnostic.html

Um, ok, this website belongs to "Probe Ministries" who describe themselves as follows:

The essence of the article is that The Matrix is not a Christian movie, and that the Gnostic texts, particularly the Gospel of Thomas, describe a Jesus unlike the one described in the four "official" gospels chosen from many by the early Roman church at the Council of Nicea.   After a brief commentary on Gnosticism, the article concludes:

Well, at least it's a SHORT bash by Christians at another religious viewpoint.  There's definitely something to be said for brevity.

http://www.probe.org/docs/gnostic.html

The Matrix movies seem to want us to accept the robots as something more than they are, by seducing us into believing the robots have souls, (that glowing golden stuff Neo saw) and that the souls were generated by us (despite our blatant ignorace of "soul") through the workings of technology on physical matter!  But I don't think the creations of idiots have souls, only that the creations can be sufficiently complex to attract souls, like a moth to a flame, or a spider to a sweet glue trap. We shouldn't try to live with robots and smile at their trapped souls while patting ourselves on the back for being so loving and accepting. Rather, we should work to discern the nature of our own souls, their flesh-and-blood traps, the prison within which the traps are kept, the jailers, and the greater laws to which all of it is subjected. Discerning these laws, discussing them, believing them, taking them seriously, celebrating them, and following them is the true work. It may also be what the rulers of the matrix are most afraid of!

Nicely said.  This line of thinking naturally leads to the sticky question of what exactly it means to be human, to have a soul, or to have individual rights.  If we create artificial beings that look and act human, do we have the right to "retire" them a la Blade Runner?   Might there come a point where we are no longer able to say for sure whether or not they are conscious and mentally aware?  At this point in time, our current technology limits us to computers running programs which at their most basic level are electrical on/off signals organized to run specific routines of code written by man.  But the time is coming when machines will be interwoven with living tissue.. perhaps with brain tissue in one way or another.   This ethical question might become a reality.   Star Trek: The Next Generation had an excellent episode where Data (the android) was put on trial for his life by those who didn't consider him "alive;" it was an excellent treatment of the subject.  Lluckily, this is at present a question still in the realm of science fiction (at least as far as I've seen!)

At present, though, the real-life matrix is being constructed.  We're already at the point where every move we make is permanently logged (courtesy of GPS cellphones, EZ-Pass, credit cards and ATMS, etc), your conversations can be monitored at any time via remote activation of your cellphone mic, every website you read and every character you type can be (and probably is being) intercepted and logged, etc ad nauseum.   Looking ahead, the simultaneous advancement of technology, coupled with the continuing dumbing-down of the population, and overall trend towards totalitarian government, is leading us towards an eventual global theocracy.   What I have in mind is a futuristic version of the collective beehive-like societal structure outlined by Ayn Rand in her 50-page book Anthem (which you can find free online, and is a must-read.)

As far as the Matrix wanting us to accept robots as having souls, it seems to be true, and at the same time trying to get us to forget that people themselves have souls, and instead look at each other as animals -- a big flock of sheep, cheering on the wolf for choosing a different sheep to slaughter today.   

On the other hand, you look at the big picture, it's hard not to see the elitist point of view to some degree.  Since the idiot masses have freewill but many choose to remain ignorant and act foolishly, it can be argued that they deserve the servitude and it is their rightful place.  I know I get very frustrated with people in general for the same reason, and have little sympathy for the plights of those who are poor and downtrodded by their own hand.  I believe in the saying "god helps those who help themselves."    I think that holding individual rights sacred is the ideal system, and that America came the closest to reaching that goal in principle by enshrining such into the Constitution of 1787, but in reality we never did live up to that lofty ideal. Rather quickly, monied interests were able to seize control of the system.   As a result, today many of the socialist states of Western Europe do a better job of sharing resources and protecting their people than we do.   So maybe there is no one final answer and the truth lies in constantly adjusting the scales in order to try and preserve some semblance of balance.  But I guess I'm getting off-topic again!  So, 'nuff said.