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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I happened to see Bush saying this on TV, I was doing something else (not overly fond of TV, but I don&#039;t live alone) and glanced up to see his blunder, I think it was a news piece on the evening news.&nbsp; And I sat there saying, &quot;stupid, stupid, stupid.&quot;&nbsp; </p><p>It was the same the other day.&nbsp; I opened my server and there was a picture of Bush waving, the newsline read &quot;Bush claims &#039;War President&#039; label...&quot; and I sat there saying, &quot;stupid, stupid, stupid.&quot;&nbsp; </p><p>I wondered, playfully,&nbsp; if this was going to be his reelection campaign slogan sign, &quot;The Great War President,&quot; but with streaming bannners breezin&#039; off it that invisibly say, &quot;stupid, stupid, stupid,&quot; to those with &quot;special x-ray vision.&quot; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" />&nbsp; </p><p>Nothing inspirational there in that man, no doubt, only insultivity.&nbsp; This would just be my two cents worth guys.</p><p>And like Christine B. and phlux I have been making some sensical errors in spelling lately also.&nbsp; </p><p>--V</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting; Last night as I was writing this post I actually wrote &quot;...where he uses the missing weapons of mass <strong>deception</strong> as fuel...&quot; - but then changed it as I wanted to maintain a more clear posting - rather than injecting my own cynicism....</p><p>I didnt know about the Tony Blair thing... (although the quote is distraction)</p><br /><p>Tom,</p><p>Your reference relates to somethng that I have discussed with others, but not in great detail. I was asking some &quot;common&quot; friends who are not at all observant of how rediculous some things are that go on in our daily lives, what they thought about the intensity and frequency with which more and more scandals are being uncovered.</p><p>I stated that I really thought that while corruption and scandalous behaviour was something fundamental to the nature of power systems - it seemed as though the the frequency with which they are occuring was now far greater than previous. I stated that I believed it was due to several factors:</p><p>Time compressing; scandalous events and deception campaigns previously were done over extended periods of time - and information flowed much slower. The time parties had to recover and react to leaks of truth before they got out into maintstream consciousness was greater - allowing them to easily cover for blunderous events with minimal damage.</p><p>The &quot;posting&quot; of conceptual possibility into the global conscious. It was said that the Matrix needs to reveal truth in order for events to occur. These imag-inations are placed into the sub/concious of the populous usually through allusion, symbolism and allegory in media... My theory is that since we are facing a shift in consciousness, and frequencies increase - the previously successful opression of conscious through lying and general deception isnt quite as easily done any longer.</p><p>&quot;Information wants to be free&quot;</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tom. Glad to see you mention Stuart Wilde. it was on his site where I read this perspective.&nbsp; I also noticed that I had misquoted Blair&#039;s blunder as &quot;weapons of mass deception&quot; rather than &quot;distraction.&quot;&nbsp; </p><p>Christine B.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Christine B.]]></name>
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			<updated>2004-03-27T12:56:22Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>To me, this incredibly insensitive and plain stupid joke illustrates how Bush et al are going to be <br />less and less able to hide their lies, intentions and agendas.&nbsp; Not only are others exposing them (ie. Clarke&#039;s testimony) but out of their own mouths they tell on themselves.</p></blockquote></div><p>Stuart Wilde mentioned this recently. I&#039;m quoting it here only because it&#039;s an interesting perspective that relates to your point:</p><p>-----<br />It’s the beginning of the fall of the Fifth Reich. The Grays are to be led away, places become free. It’s not everywhere at once but here and there; I’ve written about that before so I won’t deal with it here. But we are soon to become liberated from the curse of the Fifth Reich. The war of liberation first took place in another world. In Revelation it’s referred to as the war in heaven. Nothing could happen before the ghouls got whacked as any progress would have been squashed or nullified. Now begins the war on earth. The families and their cronies go down bit-by-bit. Weird stuff happens. A briefcase of secret documents is left in a taxi and its contents exposed. Politicians misspeak on T.V. accidentally blurting out the truth. It’s called tapping. The intellect that normally offers the lies is momentarily over-ridden (entranced), and the subconscious is lightly tapped to release the truth, it blurts out unintentionally. That is already happening, you might have heard the famous one recently when Blair talked of &quot;weapons of mass distraction.&quot; Ordinary people are shocked when they realize how they have been robbed and conned. The Forth Reich falters as the Fifth goes down. Mayhem. They won’t go quietly, that’s my guess.</p><p><a href="http://www.stuartwilde.com/Articles/SW_articles_triumph_gods_light.htm">http://www.stuartwilde.com/Articles/SW_ … _light.htm</a><br />-----</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thank you phlux for this post.&nbsp; I read on another site that there are going to be more and more <br />political &quot;blunders&quot;, Freudian slips etc., as the shift gets closer.&nbsp; </p><p>To me, this incredibly insensitive and plain stupid joke illustrates how Bush et al are going to be <br />less and less able to hide their lies, intentions and agendas.&nbsp; Not only are others exposing them (ie. Clarke&#039;s testimony) but out of their own mouths they tell on themselves.</p><p>Not long ago...Blair said &quot;weapons of mass deception...&quot;</p><p>It is definitely heating up.</p><p>Again, thanks.<br />Christine B.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2004-03-27T10:58:23Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Here is a rather disturbing article about Bush attempting to be a comical speaker at a benefit dinner where he uses the missing weapons of mass destruction as fuel for a comical presentation.</p><p>Its not just in poor taste, its lunacy IMO. I think the original author does a good job conveying the situation....</p><br /><br /><p>MIA WMDs--For Bush, It&#039;s a Joke<br />03/25/2004 @ 11:57am</p><br /><p>Only in Washington.</p><p>Last night I was at the Radio and Television Correspondents&#039; Association <br />Dinner. It&#039;s a formal-and-fun affair where thousands of media folks <br />assemble at the Hilton for a fancy dinner and fab pre- and post-parties. <br />I&#039;m not going to denigrate such soirees. I enjoy them. While bookers and <br />producers jiggled and jostled on the dance floor and media and political <br />celebs dissected the news du jour (this time it was Richard Clarke&#039;s <br />dramatic appearance before the 9/11 commission), I was able to chat with <br />former weapons hunter David Kay and learn about some troubling <br />developments in the intelligence community (more on that down the road). <br />And there was free sushi.</p><p>But an awful you&#039;re-all-alone moment came during George W. Bush&#039;s <br />comments that followed the sit-down dinner. The current president is <br />often the honored guest at this annual affair, and the audience toasts <br />him in what is supposed to be a sign of communal and nonpartisan spirit. <br />And, the tradition is, that the president has to be funny; he has to <br />provide us with an amusing speech that pokes fun at himself and his <br />political foes. After all, political journalists love to see politicians <br />engage in self-deprecating humor. Bill Clinton was quite good at these <br />performances. Bush seems to enjoy them less. Rather than do straight <br />standup, he sometimes relies on a humorous slide show, and that was how <br />he chose to entertain the media throng this time.</p><p>It&#039;s standard fare humor. Bush says he is preparing for a tough election <br />fight; then on the large video screens a picture flashes showing him <br />wearing a boxing robe while sitting at his desk. Bush notes he spends &quot;a <br />lot of time on the phone listening to our European allies.&quot; Then we see <br />a photo of him on the phone with a finger in his ear. There were funny <br />bits about Skull and Bones, his mother, and Dick Cheney. But at one <br />point, Bush showed a photo of himself looking for something out a window <br />in the Oval Office, and he said, &quot;Those weapons of mass destruction have <br />got to be somewhere.&quot;</p><p>The audience laughed. I grimaced. But that wasn&#039;t the end of it. After a <br />few more slides, there was a shot of Bush looking under furniture in the <br />Oval Office. &quot;Nope,&quot; he said. &quot;No weapons over there.&quot; More laughter. <br />Then another picture of Bush searching in his office: &quot;Maybe under <br />here.&quot; Laughter again.</p><p>Disapproval must have registered upon my face, for one of my tablemates <br />said, &quot;Come on, David, this is funny.&quot; I wanted to reply, / Over 500 <br />Americans and literally countless Iraqis are dead because of a war that <br />was supposedly fought to find weapons of mass destruction, and Bush is <br />joking about it./ Instead, I took a long drink of the lovely white wine <br />that had come with our dinner. It&#039;s not as if I was in the middle of a <br />talk-show debate and / had/ to respond. This was certainly one of those <br />occasions in which you either get it or don&#039;t. And I wasn&#039;t getting it. <br />Or maybe my neighbor wasn&#039;t.</p><p>At the end of the slide show, Bush displayed two pictures of himself <br />with troops and noted these were his favorites. The final photograph was <br />a shot of special forces soldiers--with their faces blurred to protect <br />their identities--who were posing in Afghanistan where they had buried a <br />piece of 9/11 debris in a spot that had once been an al Qaeda camp. Bush <br />spoke about the prayer the commander had said during the burial ceremony <br />and noted he had this photograph hanging in his private study.</p><p>So what&#039;s wrong with this picture? Bush was somber about the sacrifice <br />being made by U.S. troops overseas. But he obviously considered it fine <br />to make fun of the reason he cited for sending Americans to war and to <br />death. What an act of audacious spin. One poll recently showed that most <br />Americans believe he either lied about Iraq&#039;s WMDs or deliberately <br />exaggerated the case to justify the war. And it is undeniable that in <br />seeking public support for the war he made many false assertions that <br />went beyond quoting intelligence that turned out to be wrong. (I&#039;ve <br />written about this in many other places. If you still don&#039;t believe Bush <br />mugged the truth, check out this short guide <br />&lt;<a href="http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/10101">http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/10101</a>&gt;.) As the crowd was <br />digesting the delicious surf-and-turf meal, Bush was transforming <br />serious scandal into rim-shot comedy.</p><p>Few seemed to mind. His WMD gags did not prompt a how-can-you silence <br />from the gathering. At the after-parties, I heard no complaints. Was I <br />being too sensitive? I wondered what the spouse, child or parent of a <br />soldier killed in Iraq would have felt if they had been watching C-SPAN <br />and saw the commander-in-chief mocking the supposed justification for <br />the war that claimed their loved ones. Bush told the nation that lives <br />had to be sacrificed because Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass <br />destruction that could be used (by terrorists) against the United <br />States. That was not true. (And as Kay pointed out, the evidence so far <br />shows these weapons were not there in the first place, not that they <br />were hidden, destroyed or spirited away.) But rather than acknowledge he <br />misinformed the public, Bush jokes about the absence of such weapons.</p><p>Even if Bush does not believe he lied to or misled the public, how can <br />he make fun of the rationale for a war that has killed and maimed <br />thousands? Imagine if Lyndon Johnson had joked about the trumped-up Gulf <br />of Tonkin incident that he deceitfully used as a rationale for U.S. <br />military action in Vietnam: &quot;Who knew that fish had torpedoes?&quot; Or if <br />Ronald Reagan appeared at a correspondents event following the <br />truck-bombing at the Marines barracks in Beirut--which killed over 200 <br />American servicemen--and said, &quot;Guess we forgot to put in a stop light.&quot; <br />Or if Clinton had come out after the bombing of Serbia--during which <br />U.S. bombs errantly destroyed the Chinese embassy and killed several <br />people there--and said, &quot;The problem is, those embassies--they all look <br />alike.&quot;</p><p>Yet there was Bush--apparently having a laugh at his own expense, but <br />actually doing so on the graves of thousands. This was a callous and <br />arrogant display. For Bush, the misinformation--or disinformation--he <br />peddled before the war was no more than material for yucks. As the <br />audience laughed along, he smiled. The false statements (or lies) that <br />had launched a war had become merely another punchline in the nation&#039;s <br />capital.</p><p>*********</p><p>DON&#039;T FORGET ABOUT DAVID CORN&#039;S BOOK, / The Lies of George W. Bush: <br />Mastering the Politics of Deception/ <br /><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1400050669/qid%3D1060280098/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/103-2425210-6970255">amazon</a></p><p>(Crown Publishers). A /NEW YORK TIMES/ BESTSELLER! / The Library <br />Journal/ says, &quot;Corn chronicles to devastating effect the lies, <br />falsehoods, and misrepresentations....Corn has painstakingly unearthed a <br />bill of particulars against the president that is as damaging as it is <br />thorough.&quot; For more information and a sample, check out the book&#039;s <br />official website: <a href="http://www.bushlies.com">www.bushlies.com</a> <a href="http://www.bushlies.com">liar</a>.</p>]]></content>
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