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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: The Matrix of the Matrix]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The principle of our irrelevance could make true a essential paradox: we are all and a part at the same time (holographical?). Because it seems we are looking what we &quot;are&quot; but not recognize while being different of our psiquical habilities or physical aspects.</p><br /><p>In reality, there arent thing bigger than anything, is oru sibjetive opinion who does that, who califies in the end. Nor bigger, nor smaller. just there it is!!, that thing amazing, maybe.</p><p>When u try to tell ur dream send me a link where u posted it, i have some hability interpreting dreams.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Racsouran]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-04-14T23:16:22Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: The Matrix of the Matrix]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Ok thanks - I understand.&nbsp; I tend to agree with what you are saying.&nbsp; Thousands of years ago mankind thought the earth was central to the Universe.&nbsp; In modern times people tend to believe that humanity is central to life on earth.</p><p>In many spiritual concepts mankind is also often applied as a central aspect.&nbsp; For example the idea that humans are a food source for etheral beings.&nbsp; This concept is often put in a way that makes humans appear as the core factor of this concept.&nbsp; In reality - this would be like a cow in the farmers field thinking it is central to our existance merely because we eat it.</p><p>As far as I am beginning to understand the &quot;true&quot; reality is far larger than we as humans can grasp.&nbsp; And we neither physically nor spiritually form a major aspect of that reality.&nbsp; Our existance maybe a requirement in certain areas...but it can only be the ego saying that all alien / transdimensional activity revolves around us.</p><p>So again; I agree that we appear to be merely an irrelivant speck in the grand scheme.&nbsp; However, that said - we still have to follow whatever drive our personal being tells us to...and if that leads us into percieving grander and larger parts of our existance - then could it not also be the ego that tells us &quot;We are of no / little importance there&quot;?</p><p>As I mentioned elsewhere - I had a dream last night about this very issue - so it is syncronistic that you bring it up here.&nbsp; The dream only lasted a short amount of time, but I remember having a great sense of the profound.&nbsp; I am still trying to understand it...later when it is clearer in my mind I will mention it more...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Marcus]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-04-14T19:55:13Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: The Matrix of the Matrix]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Maybe i canÂ´t explain it well, &quot;be pair&quot;, is look without sense of superiority or inferiority; that explanation is much more better.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Racsouran]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-04-14T19:42:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: The Matrix of the Matrix]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Racsouran, when you say that one &quot;be pairs with all you can see or sense&quot;; what exactly do you mean?&nbsp; I take it you are saying that a human being can experience no more or less than their physical senses allow?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Marcus]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-04-14T19:35:27Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: The Matrix of the Matrix]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>For me, there isnÂ´t &quot;up and down&quot;. Why?, thereÂ´s no standard point of reference gived to us to tell the difference, so i suggest look closely to universe, to physicality, to mind.</p><p>This ensures that all authority is created by intelligent beings for a purpose of control. </p><p>Being aware of that standard of &quot;not standard of up &amp; down&quot;, makes u be pairs with all u can see or sense, being more or less intelligent, because intelligence, spirituality, and evolution, are only irrelevant steps of te chaotic order of infinity.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Racsouran]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-04-14T19:30:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: The Matrix of the Matrix]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>welcome to the wonderful world of fractals my friend!</p><p>or should i say welcome to the wonderful fractal of worlds ?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[zonabi]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-04-14T19:03:58Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: The Matrix of the Matrix]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>In essence the Matrix is simply a spiritual feedback mechanism between mind and environment. Mind influences environment, environment provides feedback and choices for the mind. But throw in the factor of freewill and there you have the choice to subvert the freewill of others by either imposing control upon their environment or manipulating their minds. Humans do it to animals...we can train dogs to not stray from the yard, or we can put up a fence -- condition their minds or control their environment. Is it so hard to believe that more sophisticated beings may try to condition our minds or influence our environment in order to keep us in their yard?</p><p>Of course it is our fault for falling for it, and our responsibility to work with what part of the feedback loop we have control over. But because freewill belongs to both self <em>and</em> other, I see the negative side of the Matrix as being not only the mind building its own prison, but the mind consenting to its own imprisonment by others. </p><p>By itself, the Matrix is neither positive nor negative -- only the participants, through consensual engagement in a certain chosen dynamic make it one way or the other. If the world were populated by beings who have collectively chosen the path of freedom, service, love, and awareness then the Matrix would be the &quot;cornucopia of the gods&quot; or the &quot;horn of plenty.&quot; </p><p>But as it stands, our world is a melting pot of beings with different destinies or agendas, and what we experience as individuals depends on our beliefs, choices, and actions. So I agree with Racsouran on the crucial role our beliefs play, or rather how important our awareness is in all of this.</p><p>As for escaping the Matrix, everything outside the one infinite Creator is illusion as David Icke talks about in &quot;Tales from the Time Loop&quot; -- but for those within the illusion, their illusion is reality. So progress would consist of transcending level after level, each &quot;reality&quot; becoming illusion once its purpose has been served for the evolving individual. To say &quot;what&#039;s the point of transcending the Matrix if the next level &#039;up&#039; is just another part of the Matrix&quot; is like saying &quot;what&#039;s the point of completing this lap if I only gotta run another lap in this ongoing marathon?&quot;</p><p>Fact is, we are where we are and who we are -- what are we going to do about it? I guess whatever comes naturally, because that would be most in line with the momentum of our being. And different beings will have different directions of momentum, and what may be natural for one is not necessarily natural for the other. So I agree entirely with Seeker and Haven&#039;s reply to your post.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[montalk]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-04-14T18:46:40Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: The Matrix of the Matrix]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>There never is an escape from a Matrix of some sort.&nbsp; Even the Matrix movies touch on this.&nbsp; There are only more confining and less confining.&nbsp; But, yes, live naturally.&nbsp; That&#039;s the best advice I have come up with for myself.&nbsp; Just be.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Haven]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-04-14T07:04:45Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: The Matrix of the Matrix]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I agree. People who&#039;ve broken out of their own personal &quot;matrix&quot;, whatever that may be, need to take care in not creating a new one by accident. These matrices are belief systems. That&#039;s all they are. They give us a reference point but they also anchor us in a solid reality. Solid reality = confining reality = self-made prison. This creates expectations of &quot;what should be&quot; rather than leaving us open to &quot;what is.&quot;</p><p>I think it&#039;s best just to take things every day as they come to you in a way that feels natural. Be curious about the world and explore reality every day as if it&#039;s completely new to you. Don&#039;t become entrenched in habit and routine. Habit and routine form mental security. And where do you find security? That&#039;s right, prisons. As you build up your mental security, your comfort zone, more and more, you build your prison walls thicker and taller.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[seeker]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-04-14T01:28:11Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[The Matrix of the Matrix]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>People are used to demand that &quot;the known matrix system of control&quot; is a bad one. For that, they tend to change it; good.</p><p>Outside that &quot;matrix&quot; system U may be working in another if i conceptualise &quot;matrix&quot; in &quot; a system of points of references, interconnected, and interdependant, where u construct your reality basis as an organic whole&quot;.</p><p>Maybe we are traveling from one matrix to another, better the latter or worst the next. DonÂ´t know.</p><p>Is any matrix, a closed system?. I used to think that any matrix is a mind recreation design created to be usable in any mind tha could accept it by will. </p><p>As a design and a creation, a matrix is always what we know it is: a subjetive interpretation of what we perceive, being eligible by more than one human as a mode of consensus to ease communication affairs.</p><p>But the key is that Matrix serves as points of reference where we use our minds in the middle of infinity; most matrix are based in the negation of the one that supports his existence, the outside: infinity.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Racsouran]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-04-13T15:24:42Z</updated>
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