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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Montalk - a question on your "Commentary on God's Gladiators"]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I think telepathic communication is possible, itÂ´s only about super developed empathetic habilities. </p><p>Could be disgusting be telepath in this world because u feel what the other feel while u use this hability; itÂ´s only my experience and it does not prove at all telepathy exists, but it appears it could be in relation with this. </p><p>Theres one thing: &quot;Do you want to communicate via telepathy with other?; just do this: imagine u are the other, then think in his brain what u want to communicate to him.&quot;</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2005 23:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>montalk wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>How nice it would be if we communicated telepathically, haha.</p></blockquote></div><p>Well we can can&#039;t we! <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/cool.png" width="15" height="15" alt="cool" />&nbsp; We just haven&#039;t necessarily got clear enough about those that are our thoughts and those that belong to others.</p><p>I&#039;ve found that if I keep silence most of the time (i.e. not speaking as is my habit) - I become more aware of the general tone (if not the specifics) of my thoughts.&nbsp; </p><p>Then when I notice a thought (or feeling) that doesn&#039;t belong with the general feeling-tone of my background thinking, I question if its mine.&nbsp; </p><p>Last year, I went through some kind of self-awareness-of-thoughts-school.&nbsp; I found that over several weeks, I became aware of people&#039;s unresolved issues.&nbsp; Each time I went to someone&#039;s house where there had been a lot of &#039;brooding&#039; and/or denial about their personal issues I picked up on them and (because I was unaware that they weren&#039;t mine at the time) acted them out.&nbsp; Usually at my husband.&nbsp; God love him <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p><p>It was only in retrospect that I/we realised that it wasn&#039;t my/our &#039;stuff&#039; at all (not in any way connected with our personal issues) but that I had &#039;channelled&#039; this unresolved/unspoken energy.</p><p>Since then, I have become much more aware of that kind of thing and more often make a point of consciously affirming not to take anyone else&#039;s stuff on board - before I meet up with others.&nbsp; I do it when I&#039;m healing/reading tarot, but it never occurred to me to do this just every day! <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/roll.png" width="15" height="15" alt="roll" /></p><p>Wow - sorry Marcus/everyone, that was going to be a brief answer to Montalk&#039;s post! Instead it became a long narrative on telepathy (of sorts) and detracted from the original topic.&nbsp; Hope you forgive me - maybe you&#039;ll figure it was worth sharing anyway.&nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/neutral.png" width="15" height="15" alt="neutral" /> <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2005 23:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Very often all of u could be more concise, more elemental, more to the root of those issues. I hate read books for that.</p><p>Im not an avid reader, but i think....</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Cool, glad we all got this straightened out <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> As for writing style, that&#039;s always a tough call because conciseness saves time but increases obscurity, spelling things out makes for way longer articles, and keeping it both short and easy to read sacrifices content. How nice it would be if we communicated telepathically, haha.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>For what its worth, it was this article that led me to Montalk&#039;s site - and then Noble Realms.&nbsp; </p><p>I was wondering whether to buy God&#039;s Gladiators after having seen the blurb from Stuart Wilde&#039;s website, but as it was over Christmas was reluctant to spend (more) money on something that may not take me further in my &#039;Search&#039;.&nbsp; After reading Tom&#039;s article I did purchase the e-book. (I usually like to pick up a hard copy and flick through it first - get a feel for it, which is how I&#039;ve always bought books before).</p><p>What impressed me about the article was Tom&#039;s carefully worded phrases showing (me) how much he valued imparting his truth as succinctly and accurately as possible.</p><p>All the best,<br />Aannsha</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks montalk.&nbsp; I think my main problem in understanding was uncertainty how you were applying the term &quot;disinformation&quot; to your site.</p><p>I understand totally where you are coming from now.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like &quot;Who&#039;s on first,&quot; in a good way.&nbsp; I joined this site to raise my awareness of the goings on in life, to expand my mind, if you will.&nbsp; While somewhat intellectually challenged to understand at times, I understand that I&#039;m not meant to be where most of you are yet, and maybe I will never get there (wherever there is).&nbsp; Perhaps you won&#039;t be where I am. And thats good. I found the same when reading the Bible.&nbsp; I might read the same passage 100 times and then (be let to) understand what was being said on the 101st .&nbsp; I believe that we are given knowledge when we are at a point where we can understand because of having experienced &quot;something&quot;.&nbsp; God&#039;s Gladiators really rang true to me.&nbsp; I was watching a PBS documentary on the Pope and his years under Nazi, and then Russian occupation.&nbsp; There were members of the resistance who actually physically fought, and there were those who started undergound schools, and those who taught the history and culture of Poland.&nbsp; There were also those who did nothing.&nbsp; We each have experiences and gifts and talents if we choose to see them, and more importantly, use them.&nbsp; I am one who will shoot first and ask questions later....some will ask too many questions, and be shot themselves.&nbsp; I think of myself as no lesser or greater than anyone else.&nbsp; The key is to use our talents as members of the same force, for good so to speak.&nbsp; You can talk to someone who won&#039;t listen to me, and I to someone who won&#039;t listen to you.&nbsp; You can also hear someone I can&#039;t understand and provide a translation...or vice versa.&nbsp; We have all been through separate moments that brought us to this place for a reason.&nbsp; <br />When I used to go to church, there were those that were always saying that they &quot;Loved the Lord&quot;, and I felt somehow inferior, that I was missing something until I read John 21:15-17.&nbsp; The basic story is that Jesus asks Peter 3 times if he loves him, to which Peter responds &quot;of course I love you Lord.&nbsp; In the &quot;real&quot; translation, that is not what happened at all.&nbsp; When Jesus asks Peter the first 2 times &quot;do you love me?&nbsp; Peter&#039;s actual response was &quot;of course I like you a lot&quot;.&nbsp; On the third time, Jesus asks, &quot;Peter, do you like me a lot&quot; to which Peter responds &quot;of course I like you a lot.&nbsp; The moral of the story:&nbsp; Jesus met Peter where he was in his ability to love....but was not going to leave him there. And then He said: Follow Me.&nbsp; Thats when I understood that it was OK if I was not at the point of love and understanding that many profess.&nbsp; I am simply me and I have something to offer, as do you.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Marcus wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I am not really sure what you are saying here.&nbsp; It is more than likely just me being unable to interprit this correctly, but I have read the paragraph a number of times - and still been unable to come up with any clear meaning.</p></blockquote></div><p>Hey it made sense to me <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> What I meant is that no source is perfect and that discernment should always be used by the reader. But depending on the intent of the writer, there can unavoidable imperfections and intentional imperfections. There are some who always aim to improve their material and correct errors and inaccuracies, and some who seek to disinform and incorporate increasingly slick and clever logical twists and fallacies in order to deceive. So both of these are imperfect and always to some degree inaccurate, but whereas the first type seek to communicate ideas clearly and accurately, the second type seeks to hide the truth cunningly. Because the second type employs clever tricks, you have a far higher chance of getting led astray by swallowing disinformation than accepting misinformation.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Racsouran wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Putting faith that Montalk or his site is a good informational site is only an error. All of this can only serve to contrast information. This site has well amount of information to take contrast, but, like all, an ocean of fog where u can believe or not, but evidences, lack.</p></blockquote></div><p>That&#039;s correct, I have purposely avoided turning my site into a spoonfeeding nursery and demand no faith from readers. In the past people have erroneously made me out to be a &quot;teacher&quot; and then knocked me down for not fulfilling their expectations. Haha, if anything I am a &quot;pointer&quot; -- I say &quot;See that idea over there that I&#039;m pointing to? Why don&#039;t you go there and have a look. See those books? Give them a read and you may find some great insights. See that paradox? Well if you look at it from this angle here, it disappears.&quot;</p><p>The point of my articles is to connect, clarify, and reveal&nbsp; to readers what they have already experienced and observed for themselves, or will experience and observe for themselves. The goal is to have a lightbulb turning on in their minds, a type of &quot;Aha! Yes, that explains what I&#039;ve always wondered about and suspected! This makes sense!&quot; -- to provide ideas that open their perception, reveal hidden connections, and resolve paradoxes. All I ask is that people take what makes sense and leave what does not.</p><p>My motto is &quot;Something&#039;s right til proven wrong, or something better comes along&quot; meaning that it&#039;s better to go with a working hypothesis and modify as needed, than to either accept something blindly and defend it rigidly or else be so skeptical and agnostic as to never commit yourself to any hypothesis and thus suffer the weakness of indecisiveness. In other words, be stubborn to lies and fickle to truth.</p><p>Some websites and materials focus heavily on trivia, history, facts and statistics, authoritative documents, credentials, and so on -- these are useful and have their place as reference sources. But once you have the pieces, how to put them together? There you need inspiration, insight -- and reading inspirational and insightful material helps make connections, see?</p><p>The best analogy I can think of would be books about foreign countries versus guidebooks for travelers to foreign countries. The first you can read sitting at home, and it gives you surface knowledge about what it&#039;s like to live there. The second only tells you some interesting places to visit, some short history, maybe some maps to use -- and then it&#039;s up to YOU to go there and discover it for yourself. I intend my site to be a guidebook...nothing authoritative, nothing that substitutes for personal discovery and experience, but something that offers assistance where it can be used. </p><p>Of course my site contains misinformation, but never do I intend to disinform and I&#039;m always looking for errors to fix and holes to fill and shortcomings to transcend. I&#039;m just a fellow truthseeker like everyone else at Noble Realms. That&#039;s one reason I prefer referring people to other websites and books that I value and respect, and especially why I have put a lot of time into the NR files area so that people can read what I have read and make up their own minds.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The links zone i found in this site was one of the bests i found on the net.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yeah sorry, maybe I should have emphasised on the <em>could be considered</em> to contain a <em>degree</em> of misinformation.</p><p>I also should have used the word inadvertantly - just as you did - because that is what I actually meant.</p><p>I got where you were coming from though Lyra...thanks <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Marcus wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thanks Lyra that is a big help.</p><p>Only one other point...the article says &quot; When faulty, some sources make speculations based on incomplete information, and this leads to misinformation.&quot;</p><p>So as you say &quot;the Montalk site would be an example of a source that might be making speculations based on incomplete information.&quot;</p><p>So from this Montalk would be saying that due to the nature of the material discussed - in addition to the fact that there are so many unknowns - the Montalk site, from a certain perspective at least, could be considered to contain a degree of misinformation?&nbsp; (Albeit unintentionally and without malice...)</p></blockquote></div><p>No...what I said was, the montalk site may contain *incomplete* information, which *can* inadvertantly lead to misinformation being spread around.&nbsp; &nbsp;&quot;Can&quot; and &quot;Inadvertant&quot; being the operative words here.&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />&nbsp; &nbsp; No source is complete, even the montalk site.&nbsp; But that doesn&#039;t mean all incomplete sources definitely lead to misinformation.&nbsp; &nbsp;Misinformation depends on the reader, ultimately.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Lyra that is a big help.</p><p>Only one other point...the article says &quot; When faulty, some sources make speculations based on incomplete information, and this leads to misinformation.&quot;</p><p>So as you say &quot;the Montalk site would be an example of a source that might be making speculations based on incomplete information.&quot;</p><p>So from this Montalk would be saying that due to the nature of the material discussed - in addition to the fact that there are so many unknowns - the Montalk site, from a certain perspective at least, could be considered to contain a degree of misinformation?&nbsp; (Albeit unintentionally and without malice...)</p><p>Racsouran, yeah - I think that maybe well what that paragraph is saying...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Putting faith that Montalk or his site is a good informational site is only an error. All of this can only serve to contrast information. This site has well amount of information to take contrast, but, like all, an ocean of fog where u can believe or not, but evidences, lack.</p><p>You need to question all and be a lonely thinker to, at less, not lose your suggested by me, way of be an individual thinker.</p><p>Doubt is the need for any research.</p><p>Maybe montalk said that his site was like this:</p><p>&quot;When faulty, some sources make speculations based on incomplete information, and this leads to misinformation.&quot; I add that his site COULD lead to misinformation. But i donÂ´t know exactly.</p><p>Every site without evidence about what it says, contributes misinformation.</p><p>But, the absence of evidences, is not the evidence of his absence.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I know you&#039;re only asking Montalk, but since I understand what he&#039;s saying, and I know that he won&#039;t see this til the afternoon, maybe I can help....?&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>- He&#039;s saying that no source is definitive and no source has all the answers or has 100% of the truth, referring of course to Stuart Wilde.&nbsp; &nbsp; So in a way, this was kind of like a disclaimer, saying that despite how much he enjoyed Stuart&#039;s work, he acknowledges that it isn&#039;t perfect nor is 100% the end all be all of truth.</p><p>- When a source is faulty, it can be for several reasons:&nbsp; &nbsp;1)&nbsp; Because the source is making speculations that are based on incomplete information, which can inadvertantly lead to misinformation being spread around;&nbsp; &nbsp;or, 2)&nbsp; Because they purposely contain disinformation.&nbsp; &nbsp;When they purposely contain disinformation then it&#039;s doing what was intended:&nbsp; Trying to subvert the awareness of the reader.</p><p>&quot;Matrix V&quot; is an example of a source containing purposeful disinformation, while the Montalk site would be an example of a source that might be making speculations based on incomplete information. </p><p>Hope that helps!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Just came across this article through google whilst searching for other stuff entirely (your site seems to come up a lot in certain google searches).</p><p><a href="http://www.montalk.net/wilde.html">http://www.montalk.net/wilde.html</a></p><p>Anyway, I have a question on one paragraph from your article...</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>No one source of knowledge contains all knowledge, so everything is bound to be incomplete to some degree. When faulty, some sources make speculations based on incomplete information, and this leads to misinformation. Others sources make statements based on purposely false information, and this creates disinformation, which doesn&#039;t make them faulty but instead perfectly designed to do what they are intended to do, which is to subvert the awareness of the recipient. Valerian&#039;s book Matrix V is a good example of the latter, while my site is a good example of the first.</p></blockquote></div><p>I am not really sure what you are saying here.&nbsp; It is more than likely just me being unable to interprit this correctly, but I have read the paragraph a number of times - and still been unable to come up with any clear meaning.</p><p>A comment on this would be really appreciated.&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />&nbsp; Thanks...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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