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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Stripping the gurus]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>bumblebee wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Not sure if everything is correct and unbiased, but makes for interesting reading:<br /><a href="http://www.strippingthegurus.com/index.html">http://www.strippingthegurus.com/index.html</a></p><p>Paramahansa Yogananda</p></blockquote></div><p>Bumblebee, Just replying to your comment from the Humour page (what&#039;s on your desk).<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>bumblebee wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>cipher there&#039;s a yogananda chapter in &quot;stripping the gurus&quot; (links section). no clue if it is biased, or somewhat accurate.</p></blockquote></div><p>I think that it has many grains of truth that have been presented by someone who has obviously been disillusioned.</p><p>But I always reckon dis-illusionment is a good thing.&nbsp; Reality&#039;s the way to go.&nbsp; (But what is reality? <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/neutral.png" width="15" height="15" alt="neutral" />) Depends on the point of view at the time, I think. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/cool.png" width="15" height="15" alt="cool" /></p><p>I suppose in regards to my own experience re: Yogananda; his books inspired me in the 90&#039;s when I was into meditation and yoga big time and had the luxury - as a single female sharing a house with a spiritual guy - to spend many hours following my heart in terms of my own spiritual growth.&nbsp; </p><p>Later when I was on my own and going through a very tough time, I found talking to Yogananda, using his photo as a helpful visual - helped me get through the worst times.&nbsp; I believed he was listening, and guiding, and - maybe it brought out my own highest self.</p><p>In regards to the SRF organisation, whenever I &#039;scanned&#039; it, it has seemed to be run like a well-oiled regimented machine, with no room for dissent or individuality - all according to a committee&#039;s dictates, rather than run with the spirit of its founder.&nbsp; But I&#039;m not really into organisations, and usually avoid them, so I may be biased there.</p><p>I went to a lecture given by one of SRF&#039;s swamis when he came to Brisbane (again, in the 90&#039;s) and was shocked at his apparent lack of love, his arrogance and his totally negative and fear-inducing talk.&nbsp; Even the thought that he may (in an enlightened way) have been trying to shock people into some sort of action didn&#039;t sit with me for long.&nbsp; He just seemed like a fear monger with a big ego. It saddened me that someone as apparently wise and loving as Yogananda feels from his writings, could have someone like that fellow representing him years later.</p><p>Still, what SRF do is their own affair.&nbsp; I can only confirm that my own (maybe niaive) trust in Yogananda&#039;s advice and resonance with his loving essence were uplifting and useful at a certain point in my life&#039;s journey.</p><p>These days, married, working, with a six year old son, the spiritual luxuries afforded me now are snatches of quiet time when everyone else is in bed.&nbsp; But that&#039;s my excuse.&nbsp; I also suspect there&#039;s a part of me avoiding meditation like the plague.&nbsp; I think that part is my ego that&#039;s afraid of being transmuted into something incredible.&nbsp; Or maybe I&#039;m just lazy! <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>I actually think - for me anyway - my spiritual journey (for want of a better term) is much more about integrating all aspects of myself into the life that I have created for myself, in which I find myself playing various roles - all with as much awareness as I can muster.&nbsp; Rather than sitting cross-legged for hours on end trying to become enlightened.&nbsp; </p><p>I don&#039;t think on this level I can become any more enlightened - I am now trying to integrate light and dark (maybe in order to rise above to another level, if you want to compare it with a PS game). And I&#039;m not saying that in an arrogant sort of way, just that on this level of the &#039;game&#039; I have to tie up all the loose ends with the &#039;enlightement&#039; that I have been given. Only then will I move on.</p><p>Perhaps that&#039;s what Yogananda (or many gurus of yesteryear) were doing - struggling with both their enlightened nature and self-serving ego.&nbsp; In the case of SRF leaders today, maybe there&#039;s more ego to them than enlightened nature!</p><p>Thanks bumblebee for your comment <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />, this has been a good exercise in looking at an aspect of my past, as represented by an almost forgotten photo - until today&#039;s &quot;what&#039;s on your desk&quot; question.</p><p>Cipher</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2005 13:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Stripping the gurus]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=15987#p15987</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if everything is correct and unbiased, but makes for interesting reading:<br /><a href="http://www.strippingthegurus.com/index.html">http://www.strippingthegurus.com/index.html</a></p><p>Ramakrishna<br />Vivekananda<br />Jiddu Krishnamurti<br />Zen Buddhism<br />Satchidananda<br />Maharishi Mahesh Yogi<br />Ram Dass, etc.<br />Satya Sai Baba<br />Swami Rama<br />Chinmoy<br />Thai Buddhism<br />Scientology<br />est/Landmark/Forum Training<br />Yogi Bhajan<br />Ch Â¶gyam Trungpa<br />Muktananda<br />Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh<br />Adi Da<br />Andrew Cohen<br />Ken Wilber<br />The Dalai Lama<br />Yogi Amrit Desai<br />Roman Catholic Church<br />Findhorn<br />Paramahansa Yogananda</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 21:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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