I even have trouble signing petitions for things I strongly agree with.
Don't want to get on too many lists.

Has anyone heard of Mao's Thousand Flowers?
At the beginning of the Maoist revolution in China, Mao called for
all artists, writers and creative types to publish their criticisms
of the new revolution.  Thousands responded.
Thank you very much.  You're all going to be executed.
And that took care of all the intelligent people who could oppose him.

How many lists are YOU on?

"Ve only vant the Jews to register, for our files.  No harm will come to you."

TP

TP

Funny how certain disinfo agents circulating around the alternative circles these days tend to be very supportive of political activism against Bush and the NWO -- but mention anything about hyperdimensional phenomena, aliens, energy/spiritual control, and they go roboto on you.

As always, one must ask: whom does it benefit? On one level, we have media hyping meaningless drivel in order to distract from Iraq -- this benefits the corporate, political, and military control structure. On another level, we have the Iraq attrocities begging futile efforts and mass expenditures of energy from those with an alternative bent -- whom does this benefit?

If people limit themselves to a political perspective, then yeah it seems to be a case of evil media vs alternative media. But from a hyperdimensional perspective where energy and spiritual control are the important factors, I bet negative forces could care less about keeping Iraq attrocities secret other than using the situation as a polarizing issue for purposes of energy/spiritual control and diversion. It may be as simple as getting you so worked up about the things you cannot change, that you neglect to work on the things you can change. So nothing changes and the Controllers stay happy.

But I agree that the media hype is just insanity and should be boycotted. If the majority of Americans cannot even see past that...well, that's just plain sad.

I agree that some of these stories are simply weather balloons to judge the
public's reaction and to identify those who gravitate toward each polarity.
The analogy of injecting radioactive dye into the patient's (the public's) bloodstream
in order to find problem areas is very astute and right on the money IMO.

Makes you wonder how many there are who aren't buying the BS.

TP

I've noticed that issues and events often come up in the media that seem to demand your opinion. There's something about the way these topics are presented that forces people to take a side and to start debating and/or gossiping immediately.  The strange thing is the sense of urgency transmitted with these news items.

Yes, this is what I cannot STAND about TV.   The hyped up urgency.  That's what I was ranting about in fact over in my Pope thread.    Being that I don't normally watch TV, during those rare times I do see it at work, it shocks me.   Just the way it is, the relentless hammering of ideas in such a hyped up urgent way.   It's bizarre.

Yup.  That's exactly it.....don't think.   Just react.    And most importantly:   Talk talk talk talk TALK about it!   And then talk some more.   

Yes.   Me too.      You mention in your next sentence:  "Janet Jackson, Paris Hilton, Terri Shiavo, gay marriage, abortion" -  Indeed, I have gotten into conversations with people on messageboards about some of these topics.   But in real life, no.   In real life I usually never talk about any current events stuff with people around me.    So you'll have to excuse those moments when I slip up around here and do that.   It's because I *don't* talk about it in real life with people.  (not that you were referring to me;  your statement was in general, for everybody, but in reading it I can't help but think of the times when I've done this too, those moments of "slip ups".)   

Now that's a really interesting way of looking at it.    ! 

In a way I guess I am, being that I don't normally talk to anybody in the "real" world about current events stuff.   Although I never considered it an official boycott, but, I guess that's what it would be, eh?      It's just that it's boring for me to talk about that stuff.    There's just no point, for all the reasons you outlined in your post.   Programming, distractions, illusions, energy drains, time wasters and dualistic polarizers.

You know....this is such a simple question, but I think you've hit on something a lot bigger.  More than you may have initially realized.

How ARE these stories constructed?    ARE there conscious entities out there, somewhere, all working in cahoots with an actual planned agenda similar to the one you outlined in your post?   If we're going to acknowledge that these stories are all lies, bunk, garbage, distractions, illusions, programming tools and polarizers......then you have to take that to the next level and start dissecting "how" and "who".  The answer is bigger than any of us can even imagine.

They infect through all aspects of the media.     

Boycott the media and most avenues of entertainment.   That's pretty much it, in a nutshell.   Just Say No to the media.   No newspapers.  No TV.   No corporate owned radio stations.   No magazines.  No movies.  (or at least, pick and choose your movies very carefully.  Be discriminate.)   And limit your internet to that which would be useful, educational, and meaningful.    Boycott the media.   And in doing so, you've cut yourself off from their #1 tool for programming.    You'll be standing on the sidelines of the sweaty mass of screaming bodies, watching them discuss useless topics as you furrow your brows in confusion.  You won't have a clue what they're talking about, and you'll be much happier for it.   Then you can turn and walk away, and go off and read a damn good book, or go learn a useful skill or hobby.   

Is anybody else engaging in such a boycott?

For the time being I don't have to deal with people "out there" too much, so there's not much for me to boycott.

Outside of NR people I only discussed Schiavo with two other people, and one of them for only a few brief moments... because this person thought of her feeding tube being removed as a "survival of the fittest" thing... and I wasn't going there. It wasn't worth the fight. A heated debate between the two of us would have served to no positive end.

If thrust  into the world at large, if in proximity of a charged group discussion, I would likely say very little, most likely nothing, because I'm rarely understood. You know, it's like I speak a completely different language from  mainstream communication. I usually turn and walk away, I'd really rather have fun.

I look to explore the symbology also, and most people can't slow down enough to get-it, that there's a bigger picture. I don't know how many times in public, mostly in college, where I have been "crucified" for speaking my Wanderer mind. After a while a gal just gets tired of getting nailed to the wall. I finally just learned to say "To each their own". Although I admittedly did have an interim period where I said "What a bunch of ignorant jackasses" before I enveloped the tolerance to say "To each their own".

I guess I would say I'm a 95% boycotter... I'm always ready to walk.

Noble Realms is my safe haven where I feel free to express myself, and where I at least have a hope and a prayer of being understood.

Fundamentally there is something to be learned from them, whether one is exploring them being from everthing like a sociologist and exploring the workings of a societal/ethical disaster to being a like Conspiracy Theorist (CT), and seeing the fire for the smoke.

I just think everything we see, feel, touch, and hear is an opportunity to learn. I'm not saying it's always a palatable education, but ugly truths are just as vital to understand as are beautiful truths.

I'm momentarily thinking of it this way--

Is all that we see, touch, etc., what is known to most Noble Realmers as "The Grand Illusion", aka life, an ugly truth or a beautiful truth? .... Kind of a hard question to answer, eh? It's a two edged sword.

The same with the "memetic stories". The polarization they create is nothing short of ugly, IMO, but therein is an opportunity to grow and learn if discernment is practiced, even if it is a bittersweet education.

On a sidenote--memetics was a large part of my Senior Thesis class when I was in college, it took me a while to get into it, but I finally got it . Just the word itself is strange--meme... reads like me-me, but pronounced meam? I dunno ... where do they come up with this stuff?

Good question czyx! And kwap, but I sure as heck don't know the answer to this one.

Hmmm... but I'll give it a lame shot, again going with the sociologist/ CT example--a sociologist would backtrack through the institutional structuring of the particular meme. They would trace all roads to a common source. (now that was a lame explaination!)

A CT would blow all that hooey off and go straight to the uncommon source... something not easily identified, such as 4th/5th density STS entities and agenda. But, how do they do it? GACK! I haven't a clue.

Don't have a clue about this one either, but for all we're seeing as of late... it's not a hard thing to do. Maybe they infect through the open consciousness pathway that is ignorance.

Heeheehee... boycott the dis-ease?

There's also always the Trekkie way--"Shields up Scotty, there's incoming torpedos!"

This sort of thing happens on the internet, too. Stories spread like viruses, and threads at discussion forums balloon up with opinionated posts and heated debate. I'm not referring to Noble Realms, as we generally do not take things at face value. We know we won't get ridiculed here for asking questions. This breaks the whole spell for whomever is pouring these items into the collective consciousness. But at other large forums where people are afraid of stepping out of line, you'll generally see a huge explosion of polarized but completely uniform opinions when one of these "stories" breaks. Everybody scrambles to state their opinion with a post that expresses their indignation with the "other side".

For the past few years, I've been engaging in a silent boycott of these subjects whenever I spot them. Sometimes I slip up and respond, but usually I just ignore them. When someone brings up Janet Jackson, Paris Hilton, Terri Shiavo, gay marriage, abortion, or any suspiciously polarizing issue, I just try not to respond. No matter how you react to someone who is stuck in the dualistic black/white paradigm, you lose. Only when you can bypass the face value of the story and discuss things like its symbolic significance, its misdirectional purpose, its usefulness to the powers that be, and other hidden components, do you actually stand a chance of learning anything. Otherwise, the information will use you for its purposes.

It seems to me that one of the purposes for these stories is to periodically "shock" the social organism that is the modern human communications network in order to see how it operates. It's like injecting radioactive dye into a person's bloodstream so that their circulatory system shows up better in an x-ray. When the story is injected into the mass mind, the powers that be can analyze the way it travels from person to person, from system to system, across all demographics. This is useful to them for many reasons. It shows which nodes are most efficient at spreading propaganda, which subjects are most useful as carriers of propaganda, how fast it spreads, who is immune to it, how it mutates, how long it lives, what its lasting effects are, and probably a lot more. As the media shifts from monolithic TV news outlets to the fractured system of blogs and social circles of the internet, it's important for the powers that be to understand how this complex system works. If they get locked out, they lose control.

On the personal level, I think it's healthy to avoid discussing these "engineered" stories with people in the dualistic mindset because of the polarizing effect it may have on you. Of course, if you are strong enough to avoid getting sucked into a debate and losing energy, and if you can use the discussion to dissect the person trying to infect you with his paradigm and the system that infected him, then more power to you! Just look out for any wrong assumptions that the information may be using to get a hold on you--such as the assumption that you have the whole story.

Is anybody else engaging in such a boycott? What are your thoughts on the meaning of these memetic stories that explode every few weeks? How are they constructed? How do they infect? How do you stay immune?