but then you have those who have endured  abductions from "ET's" and/ or military or who have endured ritual abuse by the many number of cult like organizations out there who use mind control techniques and become handlers of their "victims"...

the mind program of course varies depending on the group who did the programming...sometimes the programming is so complexe that it is very dangerous for the person for you to try and de-programm them and their system

most people with complexe programming have a myriad of alters inside of them..and so many programs running that any attempt at deprogramming of any kind can trigger other types of programming, like suicidal programming, homocidal programming, pain programming..etc..

its a tricky situation and a tough call...I always go deep within for my own inner guidance and  then ask for guidance from my guides as to how to procede when faced with doing any deprogramming of any type on someone who has this type of complexe programming..

its not as simple as asking the "main front personality" if they want the deprogramming..because this alone, most times will set off new programming..

so sometimes going about it on other dimensions, calling in the "highself" and asking whats best here and going in on that level (if you know what your doing) works best without the personalities knowing of the deprogramming attempt..but even then..you can cause harm...

i have been witness to some friends of mine who did this after much deliberation  with someone and some progress was made but still some pain program was triggered during the deprogramming session and the person was in pain for days..

its even fascinating to know that for some people seeing the word LOVE..can trigger self-hate programming..and its so sad to see the lives of some people who are severly programmed and trapped in this world of MC and their handlers..

I have endured programming at the hands of the military during much of my young life and thank gawd..i have had a strong intuition and connection to Source that has been leading me out of it..I am not out of the woods yet but I am getting better slowly but surely.

I had a friend of mine do some work on me once, etherically and it caused a lot of flooding and it was pretty traumatic. Our minds creates blocks for a reason sometimes and we dissociate and this helps keep us sane and alive so we have to be careful when we mess around with those blocks because all of the blocked emotion and memory can come rushing into your consciousness at once and cause you to really freak out..

i guess its hard to find that balance...be as educated as possible about the extent and different types and levels of MC programming but also do not let fear of it control you, if you are the one programmed and/or the one wanting to help others who are programmed...

but i really enjoyed reading all the posts and its great that this thred was started because I think we all need to share stories and experiences and make more people aware of what really is going on out there...

love and light
Myrrhi

Every day that passes i come to realize that mind controlling people is easier and easier....

It seems that way.   

*looks in mirror*

Damn!

the harder they come, the harder they fall

meaning, the entire JFK incident, whether or not "part of the contract"-- is only letting the "evil" become more and more evident, gaining momentum, meaning, its going to burn itself out faster.
had he not been assassinated (i dont think it could have been any other way, but for arguments sake) - who knows, maybe the entire takeover would still be a hidden behind the scenes agenda. it obviously isn't,

i do hope that makes one bit of sense, sometimes these ideas in my head dont make sense on paper (or on screen)

what im saying is that this "evil" is selfish, and by nature will collapse on itself, especially at the rate it is going.

other things i want to say:

a) as long as "good" and "evil" battle, it will simply swing back and forth thru time

b) integration of the polarities is the only way to find a neutral balance in a world
aka "peace"

Somehow I feel it's important to report these things as they come. Yet, why didn't I go "yowza" at the first chance I had, about the UFO?(This happened another time, by the way, and on that time I did not follow it.)

About the colleges! I certainly can't prove anything, and it's mostly based on my experiences and intuitions while living near the one I mentioned. Many of the things you mention, however, are similar in "feel" to what I have sensed. This particular school has alot of well-off
"ne'er do wells", to put it bluntly, who drive Corvettes (again, nothing against the car or the peep type, just an observation!), taking courses in cooking, accounting, and so on. This is the outer appearance, along with alot of yelling and screaming and blaring party music that wafted easily on the breeze to my room!
But I saw teachers rarely, and at times I thought to myself, "You know, what's to stop TPTB from setting up one of these  as a military outpost, psychological testing site, complete with fake "students" and "teachers?" I'm certain the school is a real school some of the time. But that's just it...some of the time. And as I followed that UFO that night, I noticed a SWARM of people at the school, rushing about with a purpose they don't usually have, and going to more "classes" than could possibly be offered in a week. This time it was no "party." It was as if all the students, teachers, and other workers were trying to pull off some orchestrated event.

As far as colleges in general, when empty, they've been known to be used, I believe I recall from reading, for mind-control programming (not classes, but MILABS stuff,)military drills, making movies...you name it, I can't imagine it would be all that difficult to arrange the use of the buildings, perhaps the college benefits in some way, or the college is tricked by agents and they mix together. A learning institution can be an excellent place to hide and cloak hidden agendas. After all, no one wants to be disturbed from what they are doing, whether it be partying or studying. So much can be overlooked, and mind control can encourage the overlooking.

One more thing to note about the UFO experience is that towards the end of it'went over yet another school, only this time, it was Boston College. Perhaps their "sports blimp" is from the Orion sector? The Rat- Zinger express! ( I am the "rat" in their view, for I may rat them out? )

Well put!! Ditto that.

EEEEK!  They have reptile heads and human bodies.  I don't care what their idea is supposed to relay - to me its just more of "accept us, we're here to stay" propaganda.  Like the cute little lizard in that insurance ad.  Excuse me, I mean gecko.  Isn't he cute?  Doncha just love him?  Thanks for finding that ad .

Also, I have a close friend and she's right with me on this topic.  I just introduced her to this forum and she's thinking of joining because of the alien agenda info.  Anyhow, she works for a big company and is an executive secretary there.  She says they have a small booklet or magazine that is company related and is distributed in her office.  As she was looking at it one day, she saw this advertisement from Microsoft.  It pictures a lizard sitting at a desk!   In another ad, at a later time, the ad showed lots of desks, with lots of lizards sitting at it.  She faxed me a copy.  I was stunned.  Don't ever think they don't know what they are doing.  They are merging and infiltrating as we speak.

If someone can scan this and put it on here - I'll be happy to fax it over.

Sheesh!

. I've got suspicions about colleges...but that's another story)

At first I didn't think much of this train of thought, until I remembered "Saddleback Valley Community College" in Mission Viejo, CA.   Any SoCal people present on the forum who know what I'm talking about?     This place has such a weird architectural style, kind of fortress-like in some ways.     Just weird.  ESPECIALLY the library.   Someone else I know commnented on the library as well, noting that they felt uncomfortable there....and this was a guy who always tried to portray a tough, nonchalent, indifferent, skeptical mindset.  But it even made HIM feel uneasy.   It's just a weird fricking place, there's really no other way to describe it.     The library is this large, mostly windowless almost fortress-like imposing building, and there are these stairs situated in the middle of the building that wind their way down.  "Squared" spiral stairs, if that makes sense.   Down to the windowless lower levels.   

I'm not doing a very good job at conveying the set up or look of this campus, but in retrospect, it would absolutely be IDEAL for "housing" people in a lockdown situation.   It could easily double for that.   It just looks so thick and chunky, like it was designed to sustain explosions and who knows what.

I might be inclined to dismiss it as just being "earthquake proof" due to its location in Southern California, except..............there was another college in downtown Fort Lauderdale that made me frown as well.  Everytime I'd pass by it I'd shudder and be thankful I didn't have to go THERE.    Barely any windows, and whatever "windows" they had were slits. It looked like a prison in many ways, as well as being heavy duty and sturdy, conveying the presense of being bullet and bomb-proof. 

Banks are another one as well.   Same type of windowless, fortress-like chunky thick architecture.  Tom and I noted some weird bank buildings in our travels.   He's the one who first pointed out the possible double usage for such buildings.   Anyway, not to get all off subject, but I think you're on to something Sedna, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on this..........

www.mufon.com. Sort by ovoid shape, and in 2002 in MA (Brookline). I believe others saw it but, like me, were afraid to say anything. In fact, alot of people seemed to be wearing an expression as if to say, "Oh, that! Well, we're just gonna act like you're crazy if you open your mouth about it!" (These were people at a local vocational college who I passed by on my UFO chase. I've got suspicions about colleges...but that's another story). Only a couple of kids on their bikes looked up, and one said to the other "Yeah, I saw it." I mean, it was huge, glaringly obvious, unless you didn't look up or had been brainwashed to ignore it. It's very, very wierd, folks.

I nearly wrote about Derren several months ago when he had a one-off special where he went to America where he's a complete unknown and so he could pretend to be anyone he wanted. He approached various experts within a number of religious & newage fields such as psychic powers, ufology, mediumship, and went on to convince them that he had certain powers, and also got them to endorse him.

The program was essentially on the nature of belief and why we believe the things we do.

For me the most incredible section of the programme was where he met up with a Christian evangelist (on Long Island I think) and convinced the guy that since he had been struck by lightning several months back he had the power to convert people to believing in God just by touching them.

To 'prove' his ability he got the priest to organise a free lecture that was aimed at people who were either athiest or agnostic, and I think about a dozen or more people turned up. To cut a long story short, by the end of the session he had them all believing in God (or at least the ones that stayed because many freaked out and left half way through the session). At the end of that segment some text came up on the screen that said something to the effect of "At the end of the session all participants were deprogrammed and left the meeting with the same beliefs as they walked in with".

Anyway you can read a bit more about this programme at the following links.

http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsi … brown.html
http://www.opensourcetheology.net/node/532

Every day that passes i come to realize that mind controlling people is easier and easier....

There's a guy here in the UK who has a tv show that demonstrates this fact pretty clearly. He's called Derren Brown and what he can do is both amazing and mindboggling. I'm in absolute awe of what this guy is capable of, and I recommend everyone try and see this guy doing what he does because he clearly shows you that you don't need traditional hypnosis, or technology, or advanced mind control/brain washing techniques to have people doing what you want them to do, or saying what you want them to say. It's quite obvious from watching this guy work that controlling people is relatively simple if you know how.

He can literally just talk to people for a couple of minutes and then have them doing or saying pretty much whatever he wants. It's mostly to do with the power of subliminal suggestion and sometimes he actually shows you exactly how he does it.

He has a website at http://www.derrenbrown.co.uk/

and on this site he explains how he does some of it http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/t … ndcontrol/

Andy

They tend to operate in secret and it is very likely that they use techniques to suppress memories of abductions.

Also, some of the human global elite (Illuminati), are likely working with the negative aliens to obscure the truth.

If we lived in a freer society, then I think that UFOs and aliens and such things would be more often treated with the interest, significance, and fascination that I think they deserve.