Noble Realms — Chiron - real or imaginary?

Re: Chiron - real or imaginary?

null@example.com (montalk) — Mon, 26 Apr 2004 20:34:07 +0000

I'm using Starry Night Backyard. You can put Chiron into your program if you have the right orbital info - check out the link above - problem is you have to use equations to convert that info to the parameters demanded by Starry Night.

Now when you say Pluto's in line with the Venus transit, how so? I see it to be at approximately the same radial angle, but at it's usual high declination from the earth plane.

I meant in the sense of an astrological conjunction:

this [url=http://www.enchantedspirit.org/Astrology/Definitions/Conjunction.php wrote:

LINK [/url]]Theoretically, a conjunction occurs when two or more planets occupy exactly the same degree and minute of arc in a sign - as part of the circle of the Zodiac. As a practical matter, there is about 8 to 10 degrees of latitude in the definition of a conjunction. (In other words, planets less than 8 to 10 degrees apart in a sign are still considered to be conjunct with one another.) Metaphorically, this represents a uniting, blending and combining of the different energies involved.

Is the declination less than 10 degrees? My program doesn't say. From estimates, it looks to be about 15 degrees, so I guess it wouldn't qualify for a conjunction even though the radial angle matches within a few degrees.

Re: Chiron - real or imaginary?

null@example.com (cameron) — Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:35:04 +0000

Well, the jury's out on whether the "typo" makes sense, or not.

But, thanks for the catch. Now when you say Pluto's in line with the Venus transit, how so? I see it to be at approximately the same radial angle, but at it's usual high declination from the earth plane.

Also, what astronomy program are you using? I wonder if I can also put Chiron into StarryNight Pro...

Re: Chiron - real or imaginary?

null@example.com (montalk) — Mon, 26 Apr 2004 04:57:30 +0000

That was a big typo - I meant Charon, Pluto's moon.

Chiron is instead an asteroid-like object between Saturn and Uranus, and in astrology is supposed to relate to the archetypes of the Wounded-Healer (someone who was wounded, but through healing him/herself then is able to heal others).

More data on Chiron:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/chiron.html

There's orbital data there - my astronomy program requires some missing parameters I'd have to calculate to plot the orbit, otherwise I'm having trouble finding its position the sky as well.

Chiron - real or imaginary?

null@example.com (cameron) — Mon, 26 Apr 2004 00:13:40 +0000

Montalk wrote:

Just checked an astronomy program and it looks like Pluto/Chiron will also be in line with Venus and Earth, if that means anything (perhaps astrological significance).

Montalk - I can easily find Pluto on the Map - but how do you get to Chiron? Isn't Chiron just an astrological anomaly?

Anyone else know about Chiron and how to find it astronomically? What does is represent astrologically? Why is a non-existent (if it is such) used in astrology?