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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Arachne is Old Grandmother Spider and Ophiuchus is?&nbsp; -I don&#039;t know what.......&nbsp; The leylines, the electro magnetism and what is holding it.......<br />H</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes, returning to the moon calendar would solve the leap year wierdness and the year would no longer be 365-1/4 days long (if&nbsp; I have that number right?&nbsp; But it is a number of days and a fraction with our Gregorian calendar as it is now). Maybe the shift that is said to be coming will include returning to a more moonlike perspective of time? That would be very kewl!</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-02-02T00:58:27Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>&quot;A problem could be, 13 x 28 sums up 364.&quot;</p><p>there is a &quot;day out of time&quot; much like our leap year thingie...</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-02-01T15:35:30Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>heandras wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The 13th sign seems to be The Serpent Bearer, Ophiuchus. So, there seems to be a connection to reptilians. Note the illustration of the Staff of Aesculapius. Regarding the staff: I&#039;ve read somewhere a while ago, this symbol stands for Kundalini, The snakes are the Ida and Pingala Nadi spiraling around the spine. I don&#039;t know, maybe this explaination is a cover-up.</p><p><a href="http://starsandcoffee.christian-astronomers.org/zodiac.shtml#ophiuchus">http://starsandcoffee.christian-astrono … #ophiuchus</a></p><p>A 13-month calender would make much more sense to me. The months would perfectly fit to the moon cycles (28 days). The word month derives obviously from &quot;moon&quot; So, it is illogical to have a calendar that causes the moon-cycles to be out of sync to the month lengths. Maybe that is the reason - to get people out of sync of their natural cycles. A problem could be, 13 x 28 sums up 364.</p></blockquote></div><p>Seems clarifying!&nbsp; there&#039;s an article about ophiuchus on this website <a href="http://www.elysian.co.uk">www.elysian.co.uk</a>. (hard to put up link) <br />Another thing is that I would think that the new year naturally starts at the spring equinox point.&nbsp; The Christian new year is in January, and the jewish in september as far as I know.&nbsp; I don&#039;t know much about the latter, but have heard that it also follows the mooncycles. If anybody know more it would be interesting.<br />H</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-02-01T12:47:30Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Here is a link that <a href="http://www.pantheon.org/articles/a/arachne.html">tells the myth about Arachne</a>.<br />H</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-02-01T12:16:56Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The 13th sign seems to be The Serpent Bearer, Ophiuchus. So, there seems to be a connection to reptilians. Note the illustration of the Staff of Aesculapius. Regarding the staff: I&#039;ve read somewhere a while ago, this symbol stands for Kundalini, The snakes are the Ida and Pingala Nadi spiraling around the spine. I don&#039;t know, maybe this explaination is a cover-up.</p><p><a href="http://starsandcoffee.christian-astronomers.org/zodiac.shtml#ophiuchus">http://starsandcoffee.christian-astrono … #ophiuchus</a></p><p>A 13-month calender would make much more sense to me. The months would perfectly fit to the moon cycles (28 days). The word month derives obviously from &quot;moon&quot; So, it is illogical to have a calendar that causes the moon-cycles to be out of sync to the month lengths. Maybe that is the reason - to get people out of sync of their natural cycles. A problem could be, 13 x 28 sums up 364.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-02-01T12:11:52Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes.&nbsp; Stewart Swerdlow has talked about the 13 sign of the zodiac as the Dragon.&nbsp; According to him falling in between scorpio &amp; sagittarius.&nbsp; <br />With the sign of the Spider in mind: -If we follow the year cycle progressing from the equinox point, approx 20th of mars, the Spider coming between taurus &amp; gemini would then more naturally be the third or fourth sign or something.<br />I&#039;ll surf a bit and see if I can find something about Arakhne(the Spider)<br />H</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-02-01T12:02:01Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>elvisalpha wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>ermolai wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Maybe spiders and dragons are symbolically similar?</p></blockquote></div><p>Would you represent a reptilian through a spider design? These are two different animal classes.</p></blockquote></div><p>Well the eagle is symbolically linked with the scorpion, so I don&#039;t think the animal class matters.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-02-01T11:59:19Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ermolai wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Maybe spiders and dragons are symbolically similar?</p></blockquote></div><p>Would you represent a reptilian through a spider design? These are two different animal classes. So I doubt it! But I have to agree with freebird. The 13th zodiac sign in the Celtic moon cycles is the spider. Maybe there is a connection in hiding these symbols but it has to do with something else to do not with hiding the reptilian presence.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-02-01T11:14:15Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>freebird wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Another thing is that according to the celtic lore there is also a 13th sign of the zodiac.&nbsp; This is Arachne, or the Spider.&nbsp; Following the moon cycles and falling in between taurus and gemini.&nbsp; As we know there are 13 moon cycles in the year.</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;ve heard that the 13rd sign is the dragon, and that somehow this sign has been kept secret to hide the presence of the reptilians. Maybe spiders and dragons are symbolically similar?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-01-31T20:20:23Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for reading it, Elvis-and for initiating this wonderful thread “Â¢ ´ ¯`“Â¢ â€”O º°&#039; ´Ã‚è ¯Ã‚è` · · ´Ã‚è ¯Ã‚è`&#039;° ºO â€”“Â¢ ´ ¯`“Â¢</p><p>I was also thinking about this:</p><p>All that we are and all that is that we know of, so far, is also made up of little spheres. Like the reference to how solar systems look like enlarged atoms with neutrons, protons, electrons (the planetaty bodies) and the nucleus (the sun). Though not sure what to compare systems with two suns to.....But I was thinking that like a person paints a pcture.......that which Creates all that is (and its helpers, I guess) &quot;paints&quot; or &quot;draws&quot; all that is with the medium of all of these spheres. Small to us are atoms and molecules. Large to us are solar systems, galaxies, constellations.....Just.....these concepts are coming to my awareness and I do not think I quite have the right words to express them. Not that I have to express everything but I was willing to try today (o:</p><p>Blessings “Â¢ ´ ¯`“Â¢ â€”O º°&#039; ´Ã‚è ¯Ã‚è` · · ´Ã‚è ¯Ã‚è`&#039;° ºO â€”“Â¢ ´ ¯`“Â¢“Â¢ ´ ¯`“Â¢ â€”O º°&#039; ´Ã‚è ¯Ã‚è` · · ´Ã‚è ¯Ã‚è`&#039;° ºO â€”“Â¢ ´ ¯`“Â¢</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-01-31T07:00:47Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Vuyiswa wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Just out of interest, from my perspective, it seems your tag (quoted above) is a cheeky call and challenge to forces you may not be aware of. It is an invitation of sorts. Are you ready for the consequences if some entities pay you a visit? Afterall, people get visited and abducted without making such a call. I just thought you might want to consider the possble ramifications of inviting &quot;aliens&quot; to come and meet you. They are far more powerful than you can imagine. Read Karla Turner&#039;s &#039;Taken&#039; in the files section for actual experiences of abductees for further information if you wish to know what meeting an &quot;alien&quot; can be like. I am afraid it is no joke for most.</p></blockquote></div><p>It is not a joke and I don&#039;t take it lightly! I know I might not like it, and probably won&#039;t, still, I&#039;m an enquiring mind and if this is the best way to find out first hand how things really are, why not? I have considered ramifications and I&#039;m willing to take the step if that is the case. People who live in fear and hide may live longer than I will, but they won&#039;t be alive. <br />What if Columbus would have been afraid he will fell of the Earth if he goes too far out in to the ocean??? You can add here a lot of other people that took a step in spite of their fear. (just a thought).</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-01-31T01:11:17Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Iriana</p><p>&nbsp; Personally I&#039;m a strong believer of an alien conspiracy against the human race. Why? Well this is still debatable and some people think they have found the answer for this big WHY? I haven&#039;t and I&#039;m not going to mention all of them now. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> Some of them mention as a tool religion! Among religions there are (where) the so called maverick religions, that spoke on how to liberate the human being through different means. The Vedic religions are just one of those so it doesn&#039;t surprise me that a representant would speak so clearly about this. (I would have to quote all the latter part of your post). In other words I totally agree to what you wrote. <br />(I could be more extensive on this subject about the maverick religions but I&#039;m going to do it at this moment. I will though if the thread goes that way... as it seems. + I&#039;m not fully prepared to write on this at this moment and I don&#039;t want to write crappie tings just cause I&#039;m bored).<br />I like your vision Iriana. Should I call it that? Or what exacly was it?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-01-31T00:56:56Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>To quote click on BBCode at bottom left of post being written. Instructions are there.</p><p>eg </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>elvisalpha wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I dare any alien to come to meet with me. If you are out there come see me I&#039;ll keep it between us (no publicity). Do you have what it takes? ...thought so! Or do you think you are to good for me?&nbsp; ha ha ha ha<br />Zbye-Zbye --- Can you fly? If you can&#039;t get on my back and I will take you to the sky</p></blockquote></div><p>I think astrology is just a step on the way to greater knowledge if you take it as information for your discernment and amusement perhaps, rather than as gospel to live your life by. As montalk mentioned frozen ideas equal frozen thoughts. And if these astrology ideas and schools of thought are indeed a means of control as you speculate, all the more reason to keep an open mind about it and not let them rule one&#039;s life and decision making.</p><p>Just out of interest, from my perspective, it seems your tag (quoted above) is a cheeky call and challenge to forces you may not be aware of. It is an invitation of sorts. Are you ready for the consequences if some entities pay you a visit? Afterall, people get visited and abducted without making such a call. I just thought you might want to consider the possble ramifications of inviting &quot;aliens&quot; to come and meet you. They are far more powerful than you can imagine. Read Karla Turner&#039;s &#039;Taken&#039; in the files section for actual experiences of abductees for further information if you wish to know what meeting an &quot;alien&quot; can be like. I am afraid it is no joke for most.</p><p>Keep happy,</p><p>V</p><p>Edit: just&nbsp; noticed you sussed out the quote thing. Our posts crossed in cyber space..</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-01-31T00:29:19Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Iriana!!!!!!</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-01-31T00:21:47Z</updated>
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