For me it has never been a question of faith...because even if I didn't believe in God...it wouldn't mean God didn't exist.  Im wise enough to know I don't know a damn thing about God...but I do know a little something about religion...and I have been studying up on a lot ...and I mean a lot of religion....and it all points in one direction....Demonize the Muslims and Persecute the jews...Christianity is the Anti-Christ religion...Our "Savior" is coming ....get ready folks!!!!!!

  I don't know if the planes were real, holograms, or missiles, but I am of the opinion that the WTC towers were destroyed through demolition. Heck, Larry Silverstein, controller of the WTC complex, said  in a PBS documentary that he and the FDNY decided jointly to demolish the 2nd tower themselves, and in the same PBS documentary someone else refers to the other tower being "pulled". 

There are so many questions about 9-11 that we have yet to receive satisfactory answers for, and likely never will. It just amazes me how the general public has blithely accepted the official government's flimsy version, even when contradictary accounts from reputable sources are in the public record. 

Some "old hat" to chew on, if so inclined:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/cutter.html

http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/veliz-bombs.htm

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysi … index.html

http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/mar … osives.htm

http://www.world-action.co.uk/explosives.html

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911security.html

whew, i thought we were in some deep sh!t for a second!

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*i dont mean to sound like an a-hole, but im trying to point out something, that it doesnt matter if its real or not because it served their purpose... 9/11 is so last year !

http://www.thewebfairy.com/911/2hit/index.htm

click on a picture to see it in motion.

the game Halo (xbox) kind of shows you how this could in fact work.

its so strange because think about this:

on the outside of the planet, where we reside- we've got the mysterious invisible force of gravity holding us down (or whatever it really is) -- which we've grown to accept yes?

but think of this- on the inside, it would make much more sense (talking about physics) that the rotation of the planet would hold everything against the walls (or the land, the "floor"? i guess) because that just makes more sense physics-cally speaking.

does that make sense? like those theme park rides that you strap to the wall and it spins and u get pressed against the wall...

what im saying is that the hollow earth theory sounds logical in that regard of gravity.

other things similar- "for every action, there is an equal but opposite reaction"

so Shawn, i suppose youve ran into stories about the Nazis going underground too, yes?>

maybe this should be a completely new thread... maybe if montalk wants to move these posts into a new category we could continue on there. (maybe theres already a H.E. thread?)

but i can see what your getting at and how this related to Holographics.

on the wooly mammoths, a good idea, but i think its more likely they were caught frozen because of a sudden change (ice age, pole shift) rather then them wandering out from inner earth. most likely an animal wouldnt continue on if its environment became unbearable...

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No, they werent wandering north towards the north, they wandered out, wooly mammoths are extinct out here.  I'm not THAT dumb. haha.    I should hace elaborated.  Wolly mamoths are extinct here. Not on the inside however.  I meant to say, they wandered around the bend.  Out into the ice, and froze, that is why they are so well preserved, because they just recently died.  Get it now?

Ahhh...got it!    Well hey, you never know.   Could be a possibility.    I never even considered that idea.

Corpses of frozen wooly mamoths with their food not yet decomposed in their stomachs up north makes a lot more sense if you think that perhaps they wandered too far from their sunny home and froze.

I'm not sure how this relates to the hollow earth.   I was reading along, and I was with ya....noddin' my head....yup!  yup!......then you threw this in there, and lost me!       

If anything, it's been assumed that the frozen wooly mammoths have more to do with a sudden Ice Age hitting then wandering too far north.   In fact, the wandering north theory makes no sense at all...when you really think about it.

All in all, I don't dismiss the hollow Earth theory.   At this point, anything's possible.

Ok, about project bluebeam.  We have discusssed it.  Chemtrails are making the atmosphere mose suitable for the llightshow etc etc. duh.  Now. What I was talkign about with the polar caps was another theory that should this get too involved we should simply make another thread.

Hollow Earth.

The theory that... Earth is hollow.

Uhmmm I'm sure some of you have heard about it.  I'm sure some of you think it's dumb.  well.  I spent about a year of my research on that solely.  And from all i've learned (which isn't much) points more to it being true than false.  It all deals with the air current, tectonics, northern lights, etc.  The beleif is that the solid part of the earth is no more than a few hundred miles thick.  The rest is "hollow" space, with an inner "sun" core what have you.  Too off the wall for you? Research it yourself, you will find it surprisingly simple. 

Corpses of frozen wooly mamoths with their food not yet decomposed in their stomachs up north makes a lot more sense if you think that perhaps they wandered too far from their sunny home and froze. 

Stories from the eskimo's talking of a great hole in the north, Explorers noting warmth after a point in going north rather than it getting colder. etc. etc.

But wait, planes have flown over the north pole.  They never went into any inner earth... They never got lost, your crazy.  Air traffic is restriced in the north to military (heh) and if you have special permits, perhaps for mapping or exploring.  And all planes who fly over, never go over the accutal north pole, they all go into the inner rim as earth starts to bend in towards the hole wich in turn, makes the compasses screwy etc. Making the polits figure they are at the north pole.  Wich also explains why the north pole is constantly changing.  In a circular pattern at that, all it is is pilots reporting the pole at diffrent point along the rim of the hole.

I could go into so much trying to explain it, but that is'nt why i'm bringing it up.  When I first started researching Hollow Earth I thought how the hell could you cover up a HOLE on top of the planet?  Well, one theory, the main one was holographics, after I heard that I halted my research on it, simply because I thought that was so stupid and hard to beleive.  "Government covers up polar openings with secret holographic technolegy"  yea yea.  But I picked it up again and looked into project bluebeam, they fit... Of course perhaps they could touch up some satelite pictures but they take A LOT they would need something to constanly mask it, especially now since commercial non-military satelites are taking photos of earth. 

I could be wrong.  But most ufo's are reorted to be moving in the direction of either the north pole or south, or away from either, making it look like they are coming from them.  now what kind of technolegy is available to make such a grand, constant holograph?  I honestly don't know. My best bet is probably the "aleins" living in the inner earth, who are repotedly just humans who went there after the Atlantis Lemuria Mu catastrophy and kept their technolegy and had this long to make it that much better, and we on the outside are struggling to catch up to what we had all the way back then.

I don't know how.  But I do know the earth is hollow,  99% anyways.  If i'm sure of any of my dumb theories, it is that.

Here are some other links if your interested:

http://www.onelight.com/thei/thei.html

http://www.davidicke.net/emagazine/vol5/hollow.html

http://www.2012.com.au/hollow.html

http://www.uforanks.com/newpage1.htm

Look up some stuff on your own. 

Pictures?

H.E. Chart
H.E. Speculation

Any thoughts?

p.s. I might have answered my question.

  Lyra, your taking it the wrong way, I never meant to flame or mean that you were trying to disinform people, and I especially know that now after your responce.  I am sorry to obviously offend you.

Apology accepted.      No worries, I realize that sometimes things don't come out right.  Messageboards are ripe for miscommunication.

I am an empath as well.   I didn't know that's what I was though until several people used that term to describe what I do.   I have a huge major problem of being a "sponge" and feeling what others around me are feeling, then experiencing that for myself.  I've had to literally put blocks up and intend that it won't happen.   I'm also hyper sensitive to strong energies of places, whether positive or negative.  If a place has a very bad vibe, be it a building or an actual city, I can't be in it, I have to leave, whereas others around me will be oblivious to it.   So I know what you mean, I do understand about that.

Well, if you picked up a negative feeling when coming across the mere mention of my brother, you wouldn't be the first.........and it actually validates your claims as an empath.      He was some major negative nonsense, no doubt about it.....but that's the exact reason I ran from him, as fast as I could.  So please know that I'm in no way endorsing him, at all.   In fact, I think from this point forward, I won't mention him again on the forum, even if it's in regards to something he said which does have truth.  It's just better not to go there I guess.

2. You said your brother thinks that much of the world is fake.  I'm sure he was talking about our 3rd dimensional reality needing to be transcended into the next stage.  However, should you do research where you DON'T expect to find anything... say.... the polar reagions, you will find that they are the largest showcases of holo-tech. (at least that of wich I know)

I assume this comment was for me, because I'm the only one here mentioning "brother" in this thread.       What I relayed in this thread was stuff my brother told me 3 1/2 years ago.   He was apparantly involved in "something", but is no longer in my life....my choice.   I walked away from him and haven't seen him since February 2002.  So that would be exactly 3 years ago, this month.   

Not sure what you're saying here, at all.   Maybe you could re-word or re-explain yourself.   Til then, can't comment on it til I know what the heck is being said.    

I'm not trying to disinform nor inform anybody about anything in this thread.   In fact I hesitated to even post anything at all because what I was relaying was "stuff" my brother told me, 3 1/2 years ago, a guy who's no longer in my life, for good reason.   I never claimed that what he said was the truth, nor was I trying to push it on anybody in some efffort to disinform, and be an agent that something "works through."   I was doing what we all do here.......................share personal experiences, stories, ideas, theories, and musings.    I've actually deleted several posts I've made over the past few months after posting them, because I was worried about backlash such as this.   It's a shame when people have to censor themselves and hesitate when posting....or outright delete their posts....because people will say stuff like this. 

With that being said, what I find to be interesting is out of the 13,000+  posts that have appeared on Noble Realms in the past 9 - 10 months, you zoomed in on a couple of my posts, from this particular thread, which were just mere musings....stuff that wasn't even trying to definitely claim anything, let alone disinform.  Musings of something that was relayed to me, which I never definitively backed, let alone claim was the truth.  In fact, some of my posts in this thread were comments about stories that OTHERS talked about.  It wasn't even about me.

Now, what would be the reason for that, I wonder?   Why would you zoom in on me, out of the 300+ posters and 13,000+ posts...some of which have been REALLY off the wall?    Am I really the only one out of everything that has ever been written here which strikes you as "disinformation" ? 

Very interesting indeed.   And to be honest, I don't buy it.