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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lyra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Atlantis......did you mean for your last post to go in a different thread?&nbsp; &nbsp;It seems you may have posted in the wrong thread since the things you&#039;re talking about don&#039;t match up to what&#039;s being talked about in this topic...</p></blockquote></div><p>No, I want my last post in this topic.</p><p>It&#039;s all about people who do not GET IT.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Atlantis]]></name>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Atlantis......did you mean for your last post to go in a different thread?&nbsp; &nbsp;It seems you may have posted in the wrong thread since the things you&#039;re talking about don&#039;t match up to what&#039;s being talked about in this topic...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lyra]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-01-16T19:43:25Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s even becoming difficult to get the points on this forum, when I really try to give some big hints and items.<br />Just thinking how many times I was ridiculed and attacked on this forum last days.</p><p>Let&#039;s say 1% of the population is aware of:</p><p>- STS&#039;/astral entities<br />- demons and elementals<br />- Chemtrails<br />- ELF<br />- angelic energies<br />- mind-control</p><p>The next step is more &quot;provoking&quot; and seem to be completely &quot;out of the box&quot; yet:</p><p>- Jupiter is rapidly becoming a second Sun<br />- staged alien scenarios<br />- staged second Jezus Christ<br />- Astral sexual vampires <br />- Genetic manipulations by ELF and chemtrails<br />- 2012 is a New Age lie (= not a very popular statement) <br />- Artificial made tsunami<br />- German Ufo technology<br />- Draco Evil Empire ready to attack the Earth<br />- A Israelian/American military base on the Moon and Mars<br />- Illuminati&#039;s intergalactic plans<br />- the hollow Earth</p><p>I think it will take a lot of effort for NR to get these last subjects more seriously on the topic agendas.</p><p>I hope Montalk is very aware of the dangers of debunking the most &quot;incredible&quot;.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Atlantis]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-01-16T19:12:28Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Everything&#039;s cool here, Lightwave. Sorry for wrong assumptions about you. I have a feeling that if we were sitting in a room talking, we would have avoided this whole mess but that&#039;s the nature of trying to communicate this way especially when emotions are at high levels. Hope you find that place of joy again soon.</p><p>Now if only I could remember what I was thinking before we got into this whole thing, oh well, we&#039;ll get around to it eventually I&#039;m sure.</p><p>Stephen</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Stephen M]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-01-16T17:10:19Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Lightwave - same here; no hard feelings.&nbsp; I just suggest that you keep in mind that simply by posting in a public forum, you implicitly ARE inviting comments, responses, and yes even advice from others.&nbsp; &nbsp; I know I&#039;ve started several threads and didn&#039;t agree with some of the comments, so I just ignore them.&nbsp; Good judgment is not the same as self-censorship.</p><p>In any event you seem like an interesting person and I look forward to reading more of your posts.&nbsp; &nbsp;Cheers.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[morningsun76]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-01-15T18:42:46Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Lightwave,</p><p>I have no hard feelings, I didn&#039;t feel personally attacked. I don&#039;t know &quot;where&quot;&nbsp; (locale or emotionally) you are at and I have never had anybody want to vent without a response. So I apologize for offering advice when and where it wasn&#039;t wanted.</p><p>Also I don&#039;t think anybody here would say, don&#039;t share your truth and reality, or don&#039;t rock the boat, lets keep the feel good status quo.We are here for you.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[T-Ren]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-01-15T13:57:52Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>lightwave, I really meant that I won&#039;t &quot;talk at you&quot; in my post, because as you indicated being talked at isn&#039;t usually of much value.</p><p>Hope all works out for you!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Marcus]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-01-15T10:48:34Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I recognize the issues.</p><p>I would suggest, never force your &quot;hot opinion&quot; against/upon others in daily life.</p><p>KEEP YOUR MOUTH CLOSED (and that&#039;s not easy, I know)</p><p>Forums like this are much better and savier.</p><p>In practice, I think, the best way to do is to help people in being &quot;skeptical&quot; towards the media and government, without taking any position.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-01-14T21:59:41Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Aya ... thanks for posting Lightwaves earlier post.&nbsp; I had noticed then that she and I share the same birthday ... Nov 17 ... </p><p>Lightwaves there are several Scorpios here on NR and I&#039;ll bet we all have stories about that Scorpionic intensity which can include feelings of wonderous joy and then feelings of sheer desperation and frustration.&nbsp; Everyone feels this at times of course - just seems we Scorpions take it to an nth degree.&nbsp; </p><p>Getting fired, not being able to hold a &quot;normal&quot; job, being misunderstood, seem part of a Scorpion&#039;s challenge ... but that could just be my own projection <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Belated Happy Birthday.</p><p>Christine B.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Christine B.]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-01-14T21:03:46Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lightwave,</p><p>I&#039;d like to echo Marcus and say that I&#039;d really like to hear your story and what&#039;s happening to you. I&#039;m sorry that you feel you&#039;ve been wrongly defined by people. Even though we all know it&#039;s wrong I think it&#039;s sometimes very difficult to not make assumptions about people, and I think most of us in this thread have perhaps made a few wrong assumptions. Me especially since I thought you were a guy but after reading one of your earlier posts it seems that&#039;s not the case.</p><p>I think the main problem is that we&#039;re all looking through very different lenses here. You seem to be coming from quite a negative place right now which is completely understandable after you&#039;ve just lost a job and whatever else is happening to you. Therefore it&#039;s easy to think that people coming from a more positive mindset may appear to be glib and perhaps even uncaring. </p><p>On the whole though I don&#039;t think you&#039;ll meet a more caring and understanding bunch of people than the regulars of Noble Realms anywhere else on the internet.</p><p>You&#039;re right in saying that you never asked for help and advice, but it&#039;s because we care here that we wanted to give it anyway, even though it wasn&#039;t what you wanted to hear.</p><p>Anyway, going back to your previous post that I mentioned. It&#039;s amazing what can change in the space of 6 weeks. At the end of November you wrote what I thought was quite an inspiring post - <a href="http://montalk.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=903&amp;p=3">http://montalk.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=903&amp;p=3</a></p><p>It seems that you felt like you were getting close to transending the matrix, and I&#039;m guessing it&#039;s for that reason that you&#039;ve experienced such an onslaught lately. It seems that dark forces are trying to drag you kicking and screaming back down into the Illusion:</p><p>You wrote: <strong>&quot;So it is getting easier and easier not to worry so much. To let whatever unfold happen, not to fight it so much cause actually it matters less whether I have more or less cause most of it I really can&#039;t control anyway. I don&#039;t think any of it is why I am here anyway. I believe I am on a quest and all that other stuff just moves me this way and that to give me choice to move me along. Rich, poor, lack, fullfill, more, less it seems all the same. When I was very young, single, small apt. less money I wanted to be married, home, new car, career, etc. I have all that now and sometimes miss those old days. I guess I am trying to say that abundance is really a state of mind not what job you have, or bank account or house, etc. I look at pictures of being 20 and see how beautipful and happy I was and how rich life was and yet I didn&#039;t really know it. I was worried about getting somewhere. To have a boyfriend, a cool job, bigger house, etc. I was always trying to get to the next place and I usually did, but now realize all the time I was trying to &quot;get there&quot; I was also not realizing how abundant life was in that moment. Why didn&#039;t I know then how wonderful it all was. Why can&#039;t I remember each and every moment now how abundant things are. I have to remind myself constantly and then it is sometimes fleeting. Can you imagine if you could live that way all the time. Maybe you can only feel that after you have lived awhile and you look at old pictures and say wow I was pretty cool then and didn&#039;t even know it. Maybe it is realizing how precious life is and it is not about things, but just living. Just watching the beauty in the most mundane things. </strong></p><p>As hard as it may seem right now I think you need to try and find your old self again, before the current onslaught arrived.&nbsp; Judging by your earlier post you&#039;re clearly aware that this world is an illusion, perhaps you just need to remind yourself of that.</p><p>You also said you were trying to make it as a freelancer, I don&#039;t know how that&#039;s going or if you&#039;re still trying to do that, but I have a forum for the purpose of helping people achieve that. I&#039;ll send you an invitation to join because you&#039;re more than welcome.</p><p>Andy</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Ayahuasca]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-01-14T20:42:03Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>lightwave, hiya.&nbsp; For the most part I tend to agree with the &quot;parsing&quot; of single lines etc from posts.&nbsp; It&#039;s something I personally don&#039;t like for the same reasons that you mention.&nbsp; So it&#039;s only on very rare occasions that I do it myself.</p><p>Shame your original post vanished all the same.</p><p>I am not really sure what you are feeling so strongly about in regards to the general situation in life.&nbsp; From your posts I am assuming you are talking about the seemingly bleak future the world has on nearly every level.&nbsp; No matter which area of life we look at, it all seems to be going down the pan.&nbsp; I think that is what you are getting at in general...and that you are saying you are also have specific troubles that relate to these general issues.&nbsp; I only try to define this, because I am curious as to what you are refering it...and if the problem is as I have mentioned in this paragraph, then I maybe able to relate.&nbsp; (And yes I appreciate it&#039;s just me speaking out; but I have held of on this thread, so may as well also throw my &quot;opinion&quot; in).</p><p>About two years ago, I started becoming aware of the global conspiracy.&nbsp; I got hold of David Ickes &quot;Alice in Wonderland&quot; book and began to read it.&nbsp; Prior to that I had always had a keen interest in eastern spirituality, and it&#039;s funny that my study of that led me to information about the global colapse etc.</p><p>Anyway, at that time as I discovered what was going on, it felt like a great burden to me.&nbsp; And I tried to relate this information to others - at work, in family and on forums - but people wouldn&#039;t listen or would take the piss.&nbsp; Eventually the stress of the situation began to where me down, and I became ill from it all.&nbsp; It was only a &quot;flu&quot; but was by far the worst I had ever had it - it took me weeks to recover.&nbsp; After that I wouldn&#039;t go near conspiracy research for months.&nbsp; It was about six months before I started reading about it again...and a year before I would openly discuss it all again.</p><p>I came to find a personal &quot;solution&quot; to this.&nbsp; Much like others have on these forums.&nbsp; I won&#039;t share that with you; because you have already stated it would be of no value to you.</p><p>I hope you can find some form of solution for yourself though - if that is indeed what you are after.&nbsp; But in the mean time, I, and probably others here would be interested to here your story.&nbsp; (If indeed you feel it relvant to share in anyway).</p><p>And yes, I appreciate that online communicating isn&#039;t always the best way.&nbsp; And whilst most places usually consist of people merely speaking at each other, rather than having converstations - for the most part I think this forums is a lot different (better) than that; even if - for you- that may not have been apparent in this thread.</p><p>Anyway, the floors open if you want to talk about it - and if you see any value in it - there are people listening; in it&#039;s not about being some form of &quot;support&quot; group.&nbsp; Support groups ultimatly validate each other.&nbsp; And this forum is far from being about self validation.</p><p>So if you have specifics on how you feel and see things - I for one would be happy to hear...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Marcus]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-01-14T18:36:17Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Lightwave,</p><p>Sorry to hear about the spot of bother you&#039;re having at present. Where I think you&#039;re going wrong, and as others have pointed out, is that you&#039;re choosing the victim mentality. Now that&#039;s your choice and you can rant and rage until the cows come home but it&#039;s not going to improve your situation.</p><p>Most of the advice that you&#039;ve been offered which you&#039;ve disregarded as intellectual posturing, is in my opinion good advice, and it could be the reason why most of us in this forum are fairly calm and collected while you&#039;re all over the shop. Granted, it sounds like you&#039;re currently in the middle of a more difficult situation than many of us here but how we all respond to these situations is entirely a personal choice, and these choices will significantly affect the outcome.</p><p>The choice is essentially between the victim mentality and the warrior mentality, but there&#039;s no point putting yourself in the thick of it if you&#039;re not going to act the warrior. </p><p>Last week I watched &quot;The Return of the King, Sp. Ed&quot;. Those 3 movies are some of the best ever made in my opinion and I think many many parallels can be drawn between Lord of the Rings and the situation we&#039;re currently in the middle of. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s any coincidence that those movies have been made at this time.</p><p>But for a lesson in warriorship, keep your eye on Aragorn, particularly in RoTK. Do you ever see Aragorn bitch and moan and complain about shit? Absolutely not, he just charges into battle, cool as a cucumber, and kicks so much evil ass. Aragorn is the man! Get your sword out and be Aragorn!</p><p>If you haven&#039;t read Stuart Wilde then I suggest you start reading. Get &#039;God&#039;s Gladiators&#039; and read his articles on his site <a href="http://www.stuartwilde.com">www.stuartwilde.com</a>. Stuart is in the thick of it too and has been for many years. I doubt anyone has taken more of a battering from the ghouls than Stuart has. But is Stuart complaining? Is he hell. He&#039;s another warrior giving as good as he gets.</p><p>I&#039;ll finish with a little story about Stuart which probably will mean nothing to anyone else, but it means the world to me and it&#039;s where I draw my strength from these days. It&#039;s amazing how a few little words can have such a profound effect on someone.</p><p>About a year ago I was invited to meet and spend a few days with Stuart in Canada. It wasn&#039;t just me, there was about 20 of us. Anyway on the very last day when everyone was leaving we were under the impression that Stuart had left really early and so noone had a chance to say a last goodbye. By about midday most of the group had left the resort to catch flights but I was still hanging around at reception waiting for someone. And while I&#039;m waiting Stuart pulls up to hand his keys in and so I was pretty elated that I could say a proper goodbye. He gave me a big hug, kissed my cheek and his parting words were &quot;I&#039;ll see you on the frontline Andy&quot;</p><p>Because of who Stuart is that is probably the most inspiring thing anyone has ever said to me, and it&#039;s filled me with a lot of strength of courage for what I&#039;m certain is going to be a very diffcult few years. If, or when I find myself on that frontline, I&#039;m going to be thinking of Stuart, and I&#039;m gonna be thinking of Aragorn, and maybe I&#039;ll get my arse completely kicked, but you will never see me giving up hope, and I will never complain, because I believe that this is what I came here to do.</p><p>Take what you want from that. If you think it&#039;s all a load of shit then that&#039;s fine, if you find it useful, then great.</p><p>Now pull yourself together soldier!</p><p>Andy</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Ayahuasca]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-01-14T15:58:31Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>(lyra walks around hunched over mumbling to herself &quot;the montalk moon charts...the montalk moon charts!&nbsp; three days after the new moon issues erupt on the forum, like clockwork, every time!&quot; pausing to glance around furitively before pulling the hooded cape back over her head, hobbling off into the crowd, mumbling some more, going unheard.......)</p><br /><br /><p><img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lyra]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-01-14T14:11:20Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Lightwave,</p><p>Bruce Lee is one of the first people I read about that described combat as a dance. Most battles fall into a rhythm, once a combatant identifies that, they can change the rhythm and take advantage of the flow of the battle or they can better defend themselves when they see the rhythm. Once you identify the rhythm at that moment the battle doesn&#039;t take all of you to be involved. Sorry if you don&#039;t see, like or understand what I am saying.</p><p>But in another thread you mention your inability to keep a job, people taking what you say out of context, sounds like to me that TPTB have you off kilter that you can&#039;t regain a firm ground. And when you come looking for support (as it sounds to me) and people are trying to offer that yet you wind up flipping them off too....sounds like your &quot;off kilter&quot;.</p><p>You aren&#039;t getting attacked in a rhythmic beat you can see, you&#039;re getting attacked on the whole note, half note, 1/4 note. 1/8th note etc.</p><p>What part did I pressume on you? If you are here you are obviously awake and have some knowledge of types of attacks and defenses.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>lightwave wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Period of attack????</p><p>If what we say is happening and we believe it then there is no isolated periods of attack. There is the steady progression towards some sort of something</p></blockquote></div><div class="quotebox"><cite>lightwave wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>As I mentioned earlier, something has to give for me cause I feel like on am surrounded and backed into a place I don&#039;t see any escape.</p></blockquote></div><p>The above quotes are yours, or did I pressume you wrote those saying you feel under constant bombardment.</p><p>Our advice may sound empty to you, we can&#039;t do anything about that. But for me (since detaching from the out come sounds &quot;intellectual&quot; ). My wife and I both have gone through a period of attack at work recently. We have said nothing different than anybody else, yet WE are the ones that seemed to get centered out(sat through 45mins of personal attacks) as the &quot;negative&quot; voices and influences. So after a week of wallowing in the negative and being confused...where&#039;d this come from, I don&#039;t understand? We realized that wasn&#039;t the case, we weren&#039;t the biggest negatives. We could then have moved on to another job(which is incredibly stressful since we are not us citizens and would have to move out of country), gone to a higher up and let them be aware of what&#039;s going on or &quot;detach ourselves from the outcome&quot; offer them no retaliatory response, no actions or words to use as ammo and see how they play their hand....well the true negative entity has played herself out...she has been asked to leave. It may be on a small scale but I am speaking from experience. If it is useless to you, and you see me as &quot;full of shit&quot; without knowing a single bit about me...again, nothing I can do about that.</p><p>So when I have debts that are getting the best of me, work is getting stressful, to the point where they hint they would like us resign, and I have a family to provide for, I don&#039;t sit and think of nice cliches, I figure out what it is I need to learn, to parry, bob and weave and counter punch my way out. Now 18 months later things are looking like they are on more stable ground. Sorry if this sounds hollow and full of shit to you.</p><p>I can&#039;t remember everything, all the time, so when threads pop up with good advice, I save them....if you don&#039;t maybe you should.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[T-Ren]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-01-14T14:09:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: if they don't get it... f*** 'em]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I almost went back and retracted my previous post as it was somewhat of a kneejerk reaction. I decided to leave for that was how i felt at the time. I went back and read some of Lightwave&#039;s posts that I hadn&#039;t seen before and reread some that I had, now I&#039;m not so sure that making fun of the situation was the best approach.</p><p>Lightwave, if you are for real then I apologize, and I would sincerely like to help you somehow if I am even capable, but the tone of your statements and lack of any real description of what is actually happening to you makes it very hard for one to help. Attempts to do so may appear clumsy or whatever, but you are not giving anything of your self to work with so what do you expect? It&#039;s almost like a setup. This tends to come off, to me at least, that you are more interested in dragging others into the muck than you are of getting out it yourself, if that is indeed the case, and I hope not, I won&#039;t be a part of it. Otherwise, I would truly like to hear what your experiences have been, if for no other reason, I&#039;m curious and might could learn from them myself.</p><p>Stephen</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Stephen M]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-01-14T12:32:52Z</updated>
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