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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Mindless entertainment is more prevalent today, but has been around for decades. Laurel &amp; Hardy anyone? not exactly high forehead. Stooges either. I am guilty myself of enjoying the odd bit of mindless entertainment. It has its place. But too much decays the mind. Read a book now &amp; again I say.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[voggmo]]></name>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>You are right, it&#039;s not necessarily only an American &#039;thing&#039;.</p><p>I am trying to say that it is mostly an American instigated/originating effort/machine (early Hollywood, or &#039;Helle&#039;-wood- a term the ancient druids used to describe a magical piece of wood or wand, which the Illuminati/Elite use to great effect in &#039;illuminating&#039; the world through the &#039;silver-screen&#039; -a mercurial color and a reference to the 2nd best angel, Lucifer/Satan also possibly refering to Prometheus who stole fire from the gods and got his wings burnt).&nbsp; The advent of film got its start in (I think) in late 19th century and early 20th century America (California- L.A.).... and then got distributed and immitated or subsequently pursued developed by other countries in the world in later decades (Germany, France, UK, Scandinavia, Japan, India, Mid-East, etc).</p><p>It would seem that, yes, now the whole world distributes/consumes, and makes audio/video/film products. </p><p>I am an avid audio/video phile who enjoys various forms of distraction/diversion/entertainments and find time to sometimes notice the synchronicities and coincidences in them (relating to the paranormal and illuminati-instigated insider jokes/commentaries/allusions/metaphors/symbols that many &#039;average&#039; world citizens miss or fail to notice or interpret or pick-up).</p><p>I have been to Amsterdam, and found it intriguing (though I never smoked any hash or paid for any whores in the red and blue light districts).</p><p>When upon return to the U.S., I had the scent of marijuana on my jacket (which I had picked up by hanging out all night long in a Pigalle district disco club in Paris which stayed open until daylight) and was cornered by drug sniffing dogs in customs entry and subsequently interogated/searched and eventually released with no troubles/charges.&nbsp; A strange incident for me.</p><p>So, I must say that, yes, entertainment and news/media is a worldwide system.</p><p>It&#039;s not only Americans who fall prey to the over-indulgence and escapism in amusements.</p><p>-Indigo</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[indigo]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-01-23T17:41:26Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>the usa is certainly not the only place where there is mindless entertainment... there are people everywhere engaging in activities that are considered as not worthwhile by others.<br />certainly holywood movies are swallowed all over the world. <br />and not all hollywood movies are bad or mindless.</p><p>personally i see nothing wrong with entertainment. i am happy to lose my mind once in a while. i can&#039;t fanthom why it&#039;s somehow wrong for people to dance, to listen to &quot;bad techno music&quot;, to party, to roll a spliff or to get laid? no... and even if it&#039;s the only thing - it still isn&#039;t wrong - it&#039;s what people wish to do. good for them, i hope they learn to enjoy themselves.</p><p>concerning &quot;the mother of all european countries in terms of partying and distractions&quot;, that&#039;s not conforming to the reality i know - and i&#039;ve been into a lot of different cultures and perspectives and know amsterdam a bit.</p><p>even if it were as you portrayed so your reasoning is faulty. there is much more to the netherlands then amsterdam. only one city over there, and indeed a very beautiful one in different respects.</p><p>it&#039;s a bit a soddom and gomorra stereotype off amsterdam with &quot;fending off prostitutes&quot; and &quot;smoking hash&quot;, far removed from reality. coffeeshops are closed after two and there are strict rules concerning prostitution. to me it sounds like your acquintances only sought to confirm that stereotype or only explore that &#039;exciting&#039; side of amsterdam, not being able or wanting to look beyond it. <br />i hope you were only jokingly confirming the stereotype of the american mindset here.</p><p>about the media, there are very good state sponsored independent and balanced programming on main television here in europe. if chomsky&#039;s manufacturing consent is anything to go by - the usa seems much worse in that regard. but this can also be some stereotype. <br />is there some insightful and balanced programming and interviews on television over there? <br />do you have theaters in every 200.000+ town where they also show alternative/local movies and documentaries?</p><p>i can really recommend amsterdam, perhaps you should visit when you have the chance.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-01-23T12:21:54Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I was in Amsterdam for a week and really loved the vibe.&nbsp; So many young people from all over the world coming to the same place to chill out and relax.&nbsp; &nbsp; The air of freedom is very sweet, regardless of whether you&#039;re the type to roll a spliff or not.&nbsp; &nbsp;Even the prostitution is no big deal there, being (for the most part) confined to a specific &quot;red light district&quot; area of the city.&nbsp; The city itself is gorgeous also, beautiful stone streets, with large amounts of the city center off-limits to cars and having just pedestrian traffic.</p><p>I&#039;m a bit older now and not a partier type, but being in what is the only real major city on earth that respects individual rights in these controversial areas can be really uplifting.&nbsp; At least that&#039;s the way I recall feeling at the time.&nbsp; I&#039;d like to make it back there again one of these days, maybe spend a few weeks there and relax .. maybe this time hire a car and see the countryside.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-01-23T02:18:48Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>morningsun76 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I recall a few years ago when staying with my cousins in Austria and Germany, they also are well entertained, just in slightly different ways.&nbsp; &nbsp;Bars and clubs -- drinking at home, even the car ... alcohol is a big one there... local crap techno music.&nbsp; Less emphasis on movies and TV, but balanced by other equally useless stuff.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yup.....and let&#039;s not forget about the mother of all European countries in terms of partying and distractions..............The Netherlands!&nbsp; &nbsp;Amsterdam, anybody??&nbsp; &nbsp;Yes, the place where American tourists and Amsterdam natives alike gather to smoke hash and pound beers, all hours of the day and night,&nbsp; (AND LISTEN TO LOCAL CRAP TECHNO MUSIC TOO!....I like that morningsun76, very true!)&nbsp; while fending off the advances of the numerous prostitutes while walking down the streets!&nbsp; &nbsp;If you&#039;re looking for 24/7 mind numbing distraction then look no further than Amsterdam!&nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /> </p><p>Honestly, Amsterdam makes most American cities look lame and sterile.&nbsp; I haven&#039;t been there but I worked with a girl who did and I heard all the stories, visited the website she set up to document her trip &quot;adventures&quot; and saw the photos, as well as talking to others who&#039;ve gone there.&nbsp; &nbsp;Interesting place, that Amsterdam........!</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-01-23T00:25:29Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I recall a few years ago when staying with my cousins in Austria and Germany, they also are well entertained, just in slightly different ways.&nbsp; &nbsp;Bars and clubs -- drinking at home, even the car ... alcohol is a big one there... local crap techno music.&nbsp; Less emphasis on movies and TV, but balanced by other equally useless stuff.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-01-22T22:30:34Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>indigo wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I understand some of the problem with Americans these days (and even over the last century).......&nbsp; So instead, they decide to &#039;lose&#039; themselves in endless entertainments (as Roger Waters&#039; of Pink Floyd says &#039;we are amusing ourselves to death&#039;).&nbsp; It has nearly always been so in America in the 20th Century along with the inventions of radio/music/media and t.v. and the film industries (so called entertainment industries).&nbsp; So many diversions are available to Americans (and peer pressures of the herd mentality).&nbsp; Escapism.</p></blockquote></div><p>Is this just an &quot;American&quot; thing, as you say?&nbsp; &nbsp;TV, movies, entertainment exist in all developed nations.&nbsp; &nbsp;Canada, Europe, Australia are three other areas of the world offhand with a strong foot in the entertainment industry.&nbsp; Many American film productions have moved to Canada, many of our actors are coming in from Australia, England is right up there with America in terms of its mark on the entertainment world as well as their &quot;Celebrity Obsession&quot;.&nbsp; Hong Kong has quite a large film industry, Japan may as well trademark the rights to the whole &quot;Anime&quot; thing.&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" />&nbsp; &nbsp;Tokyo, from what I&#039;ve seen, is one huge circus in terms of being an entertainment and distractions / illusions playground for movies, cartoons and sex.&nbsp; &nbsp;And last time I checked, the movies that are being made in America are also being showcased all over Europe, South America, Canada, Australia, Asia, and parts of the Middle East.&nbsp; And doing quite well in those markets surprisingly, considering we seem to be the only ones who enjoy the entertaining distractions.&nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" />&nbsp; &nbsp; EDIT:&nbsp; &nbsp;OH!&nbsp; &nbsp;Almost forgot about INDIA!&nbsp; &nbsp;Their movie / entertainment / distractions industry is so big they deem it &quot;Bollywood&quot;, a combination of Bombay and Hollywood.&nbsp; &nbsp;So, can&#039;t forget about India....</p><p>Anyway, it&#039;s not just an &quot;American&quot; thing, and I get a little frowny when I keep seeing non-Americans saying stuff like this.&nbsp; &nbsp; America is too easy a target now.&nbsp; &nbsp;It&#039;s easy for anybody to jump on the &quot;Let&#039;s Kick America!&quot; bandwagon, blaming America for everything, accusing America of being the only country engaging in behaviors and activities that are actually seen world-wide.&nbsp; &nbsp;In this case, it&#039;s the &quot;Americans are all into entertainment and distractions....&quot;&nbsp; Really?&nbsp; Then why are all the other developed nations making movies and creating entertaining distractions as well, if indeed it&#039;s primarily an &quot;American&quot; thing?&nbsp; </p><p>Just food for thought.&nbsp; &nbsp; But don&#039;t mind me, what do I know.&nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-01-22T20:47:20Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I understand some of the problem with Americans these days (and even over the last century).</p><p>Most are made to feel powerless by what they see or read.&nbsp; They believe they can do little to fight the encroaching loss of freedom due to higher security (which is fueled by fear of future potential major terrorist attacks).&nbsp; So instead, they decide to &#039;lose&#039; themselves in endless entertainments (as Roger Waters&#039; of Pink Floyd says &#039;we are amusing ourselves to death&#039;).&nbsp; It has nearly always been so in America in the 20th Century along with the inventions of radio/music/media and t.v. and the film industries (so called entertainment industries).&nbsp; So many diversions are available to Americans (and peer pressures of the herd mentality).&nbsp; Escapism.&nbsp; People want to forget all about the dangers that keep developing (and that the media monopolies pander).&nbsp; They have lost touch.&nbsp; They really do increasingly (though there are a growing minority so far who are &#039;awakening&#039;) become brainwashed and hypnotized.&nbsp; They also realize that if they take action in active &#039;resistance&#039; they will be stamped on furiously (unrelentlessly ruthlessly) and have been shown thru the media cabals that &#039;resistance is futile&#039; (a star trek borg term).&nbsp; The Japanese have a saying &#039;dont be the nail that stands out as it will be the first to get hammered.</p><p>The stoics use fear and hope alternatingly to control.</p><p>They make movies with pretty bodies and faces and that tell us, look at what happens if you oppose us and our satanic/luceferian principles/practices/doctrines, look at the film &#039;Eyes Wide Shut&#039; and think about its title and director (Kubrick) who mysteriously dies of a heart attack upon its release.&nbsp; Look at what&#039;s portrayed in that film (with all its subversive titilizing debauchery decadence) and fear inducing consequences that result in if you try to expose their sick rituals and designs.&nbsp; They kill, or creep into your house and leave bizarre symbols to those who would otherwise expose them.</p><p>They label you a &#039;conspiracy theorist&#039; when you are merely seeing the world as it really is. </p><p>Maybe it has to do with sensual stimulation (whether sexual, sadistic/violent, masochistic, greedy, or addictive behaviours).</p><p>Our world is being hijacked by a cold-blooded ruthless relentless Elite- alien/human collaborators, who want nothing less than slaves for their pleasures (cruel), cattle for the slaughter, sheeple who blindly follow, peasants and serfs who can only look up at their modern-day Lords and Ladies of mansions/castles.&nbsp; These Elite opportunists want nothing less than their underlings to graze away happily ignorant in the grasslands too busy to look up and notice their prison bars and prison planet.</p><p>All this I have said is dreary yet discernable to those who are waking up gradually or in leaps and bounds.</p><p>Why do our fellow human beings accept their doom?</p><p>Perhaps there really are some (or most) who will never wake-up because they cant and perhaps dont want to (it would involve too much energy and devotion to keep aware and involved).</p><p>Sad, very sad.</p><p>I too am somewhat angry.</p><p>I only cope by realizing, I am here to observe and distance myself from it.</p><p>I can take small measures to keep aware and spread awareness.</p><p>Thats all.</p><p>-Indigo</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-01-22T19:37:13Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I can remember hearing all sorts of conflicting information, official and non-official.<br />It made my head spin, and maybe that&#039;s why I don&#039;t remember it too well. And maybe that&#039;s just what TPTB want.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-01-11T16:33:50Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>wandering1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>That&#039;s interesting that you remember that initially there was a different story presented by the media with regard to the Pentagon attack.&nbsp; I did not see the initial media reports on that.</p></blockquote></div><p>I personally remember right in the middle of the whole WTC debacle a woman being randomly interviewed on the street, breathlessly saying that there were &quot;explosions&quot; coming from inside the building.</p><p>That was the one and only mention of that to appear on the news that I saw.&nbsp; It was never persued, no attention was brought to it, it was swept under the rug.&nbsp; Only later on with the 9/11 &quot;conspiracy theorists&quot; was the idea of internal bombs brought to light. I totally believe this &quot;theory&quot;.&nbsp; To me it&#039;s fact.&nbsp; The way the buildings fell, it was Las Vegas TNT hotel demolition style.&nbsp; The fact that the upper levels of the buildings were out of commission several days before the &quot;surprise&quot; attack.&nbsp; &nbsp;The video circulating around which clearly shows an explosion eminating from a lower part of the building right after the plane struck.&nbsp; (phlux had posted links to this video months back.)&nbsp; &nbsp;And on and on.&nbsp; &nbsp;There&#039;s more, but that&#039;s the gist.&nbsp; </p><p>There was a lot of confusion that day, and probably several variations of events floating about initially until the media got a handle on things and maintained better &quot;information control&quot;............</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-01-10T20:25:42Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I cannot vouch for thewebfairy as an overall site.&nbsp; I simply noticed that they had a version of the Pentagon Strike video without ads.</p><p>That&#039;s interesting that you remember that initially there was a different story presented by the media with regard to the Pentagon attack.&nbsp; I did not see the initial media reports on that.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-01-10T19:11:46Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Good article.</p><p>About the webfairy...its a great presentation.&nbsp; However I seem to remember hearing somewhere that the &quot;webfairy&quot; merely spreads disinfo, and at one point spoke about oddities on the planes that hit the WTC.&nbsp; Those oddities taken from a 9/11 DVD later turned out to be fake.</p><p>Not that this has any bearing on the Pentagon video; after all anyone that debunks the offical story is slandered / attacked.&nbsp; Something odd certainly went on at the Pentagon.&nbsp; I remember at the time, when the news channels were still showing the Pentagon damage on TV (before the Pentagon got it pulled), that eye-witnesses were talking about a small object hitting the Pentagon; a small commuter plane some said...</p><p>Certainly at that time there were no mentions of a 747.&nbsp; Bombs, car bombs and small flying objects (missles, single engine planes etc.) for sure; but nothing on a 747.&nbsp; Funny how people edit their memories after the fact just because the News tells them a different story 5 mins later...</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-01-10T10:07:53Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Nice post.&nbsp; I think that it is important and necessary to be vigilant in researching information.</p><p>Here is a link to a Pentagon Strike video.&nbsp; The other versions of this video which have been posted on this site have ads, and this version does not have ads.</p><p><a href="http://thewebfairy.com/video/pentagon121.swf">http://thewebfairy.com/video/pentagon121.swf</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-01-10T01:02:20Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Conspiracy Theorists<br />By Jolly Roger<br />slicingthroats@yahoo.com<br />1-8-5</p><p>Everyone has heard, and has probably used the term &quot;conspiracy theorist,&quot; and the fact of the term being in common use, also indicates that we generally agree on what it means. I saw a movie by that name, and the title character was a raving lunatic who kept his food in thermoses with combination locks to reduce his chances of being poisoned by imaginary enemies. <br />&nbsp; <br />Regardless of how the stupid movie turned out, what&#039;s important here is the common perception people have of someone to whom that label is applied, and just as important, is who it is that applies the label. The common perception is that someone who is labeled a &quot;conspiracy theorist&quot; is suffering from some type of psychological disorder, and that label is usually applied to people by our government, and our news media. The next thing to consider, is that the label is applied to anyone who questions our government&#039;s version of events in any matter. Doesn&#039;t it logically follow that the media are teaching us to assume that anyone who questions the government is insane? When that label is applied to a person, doesn&#039;t it become easy to dismiss everything they say without even hearing it? How convenient for them. <br />&nbsp; <br />I think the label first became widely used to slander people who questioned the details surrounding the JFK assassination, and forty years later, there aren&#039;t too many thinking people who still believe the Warren Commission&#039;s &quot;lone gunman&quot; explanation. That explanation is doubted by everyone who has taken the time to look into the details, and believed only by people who refuse to. <br />&nbsp; <br />Which is &quot;theory&quot; and which is fact? In the absence of a full confession, this can only be decided by a preponderance of evidence, and it would be silly to come to a conclusion on any matter without looking at all the evidence available. This is only common sense, just as it is safe to assume some degree of guilt or complicity on the part of anyone who lies about an event, or tries to hide, plant, or destroy any type of evidence. <br />&nbsp; <br />Conspiracy theories arise from evidence. After the government releases an explanation of a particular event, a conspiracy theory is only born because evidence exists to disprove their explanation, or at least call it into question. There&#039;s nothing insane about it, unless you define sanity as believing whatever the government tells you. In light of the fact that our government lies to us regularly, I would define believing everything they tell you as utter stupidity. <br />&nbsp; <br />In July of 1996, flight 800 exploded over Long Island. Shortly after their terrorist explanation failed scrutiny, our government then explained the event by claiming that a faulty electrical system caused a spark that ignited a fuel tank, and the people who doubted this explanation were quickly labeled &quot;conspiracy theorists.&quot; More than a hundred witnesses saw a missile travel from the ground up to the plane just prior to its explosion, but rather than being treated as eyewitnesses to an event, they were labeled &quot;conspiracy theorists,&quot; which label allowed all subsequent investigation to ignore the strongest evidence in the matter. <br />&nbsp; <br />Our &quot;investigative&quot; news agencies decided to accept and disseminate the official story, and they helped us forget the U.S. naval station nearby, the fact that missiles were regularly test fired there, and naturally, they paid no heed to more than a hundred &quot;conspiracy theorists&quot; who saw the plane get blown out of the sky by a missile. I believe that the U.S. Navy accidentally shot down flight 800, and that&#039;s my belief because it&#039;s the most sensible explanation that can be drawn from the available evidence. I&#039;m not theorizing about conspiracies, but there are conflicting explanations of the event, and if the Navy did accidentally blow a passenger plane out of the sky, who would have a motive to lie about it? The U.S. government, or a hundred witnesses? <br />&nbsp; <br />Then of course, there were the &quot;crazy conspiracy theories&quot; arising from the bombing of the Alfred Murrah federal building in Oklahoma City. In that matter, audio tapes and witnesses agree that there were two explosions, the first of which occurred inside the building between eight and ten seconds before the truck bomb exploded. Explosive experts agree that Timothy McVeigh&#039;s fertilizer bomb could not have destroyed the building, and the FBI&#039;s counter terrorism chief, and members of BATF lied about their whereabouts during and prior to the catastrophe. The evening news decided not to tell you any of this, and they will label anyone who tries to a &quot;paranoid conspiracy theorist.&quot; In light of the evidence, we would be complete fools if a conspiracy theory didn&#039;t exist. <br />&nbsp; <br />There were no conspiracy theories arising from the explosion of flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, and there were no conspiracy theories arising from the work of the uni-bomber, so the newly invented psycho-babble that tries to explain the malady of conspiracy theorists, also needs to explain why millions of conspiracy theorists all decided not to theorize about those events. There is no psychological malady. There was simply no evidence to indicate a conspiracy. <br />&nbsp; <br />The real question is not why people theorize about conspiracies, but why people choose to believe the government&#039;s version of events when it&#039;s obvious that they&#039;re lying. One reason is that most people never see the evidence because our &quot;news&quot; industry hides it, and another reason is that the same news industry will quickly associate anyone who questions the government with the people who see Elvis, Bigfoot, and UFO&#039;s. <br />&nbsp; <br />But sadly, I think the main reason people choose to believe the government&#039;s version of events despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, is because it&#039;s easier, and safer. If you ignore most of the evidence, and accept as plausible whatever ridiculous explanation the T.V. provides, your life remains simple, and you get to sit on your ass and watch more T.V. If on the other hand, you pluck your head from that same ass and realize you&#039;ve been lied to, as a citizen in a democratic society, you&#039;re instantly burdened with being responsible for doing something about it. Every citizen of the United States has a civic duty to participate in their government, and keep themselves informed of its actions, or government &quot;of the people, by the people, and for the people&quot; isn&#039;t possible. You were warned that &quot;eternal vigilance is the price of freedom, &quot; but you chose to ignore your government, and believe whatever they told you, and because of this, Americans have lost their freedom. Although presidents and senators are public servants, unlike the dog catcher and mailman, they wield a lot of power over people&#039;s lives, and that&#039;s why they have to be watched, and scrutinized. <br />&nbsp; <br />Statistical analysts from UCLA and Rutgers University believe that John Kerry won the 2004 presidential election by an estimated 1.3 million votes, and despite the fact that these learned scholars are probably the most qualified people alive to forward such an opinion, our news madia dismisses this as &quot;conspiracy theory.&quot; George W. Bush lost the 2000 election, and he lost the 2004 election, but he&#039;s occupying the White House, shredding our constitution, and stealing our wealth and freedom in a &quot;war on terror&quot; that&#039;s as fraudulent as his presidency because many Americans are too stupid to see it, too lazy to do anything about it, or both. <br />&nbsp; <br />I&#039;m sorry if I sound angry, but the fact of the matter is that I am angry. While you were staring into the television like an idiot, our freedom, wealth, and constitutional protections have been stolen from us, and because you&#039;re stupid enough to believe the manure being shoveled by our government, you&#039;ve allowed them to commit bigger and more heinous crimes. Because you were too lazy to research their nonsensical economic policies, and see them for the scams that they are, we&#039;ll all soon be living in poverty. And because you&#039;re so lazy, apathetic, and easily lied to, millions have died for the profits of a few. I have every right to be angry, and only a fool wouldn&#039;t be. <br />&nbsp; <br />Only a small portion of my anger is reserved for the government of the United States, because they only did what can be expected of any government. They grabbed money, power and control where it was easy to do so. Most of my anger is directed toward my fellow American citizens, because they allowed it to happen by believing whatever they&#039;re told, and not doing what&#039;s expected of them. Patriotism in America does not mean waving the flag in blind loyalty to the government. As an American citizen, you have a civic duty to question your government, and hold them accountable for their actions, not use the flag as a blindfold. The American people have been duped once again, and it doesn&#039;t seem like it&#039;s a difficult thing to accomplish. <br />&nbsp; <br />America&#039;s latest &quot;conspiracy nuts&quot; are better known as the 9-11 truth movement. The news media are doing their usual job of slandering them with their usual childish name calling, but for more than three years, they have refused to show you the documented fact, scientific data, expert testimony, photographic evidence, or the credible eyewitness accounts that prove U.S. government complicity in the events of September, 11, 2001. If this were just a &quot;crazy conspiracy theory,&quot; I don&#039;t think people in our government would have worked so hard to destroy, hide, and lie about the evidence. The White House tried to derail every investigation into the matter. If we had an honest government, we wouldn&#039;t have conspiracy theories. We would have honest investigations, and fair trials, but these things are disappearing from America. <br />&nbsp; <br />There are disturbing facts regarding the events of September 11 that every American needs to be aware of , but naturally, none of it will be on T.V. I&#039;ve met a lot of people in the 9-11 truth movement, and I can assure you that none of them are crazy, paranoid, or even &quot;conspiracy theorists.&quot; One generalization I can make about them is that they all seem to be very intelligent. Maybe the smartest thing you could do would be to start listening to them. The Arabs don&#039;t &quot;hate your freedom.&quot; The White House hates your freedom, because it&#039;s the only thing that stands between them, and unlimited power. - Jolly Roger <br />&nbsp; <br />&quot;Eternal Vigilance is the Price of Freedom&quot; - Thomas Jefferson <br />&nbsp; <br />911truth.org 911review.org 911review.com physics911.org wtc7.net <br />&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; <br />Anything written by &quot;Jolly Roger&quot; is the property of the American Resistance Movement, and the author hereby grants permission to anyone who so desires to post, print, copy, or distribute this letter as they see fit, and in fact, the author encourages you to do so. </p><p><a href="http://www.rense.com/general61/dwe.htm">http://www.rense.com/general61/dwe.htm</a></p>]]></content>
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