this video is on the 'death of the internet' - how private corporations are trying to privatize the net

... i dunno if there was another thread for this elsewhere, i tried a search - i found this so i thought i'd post it here ...

Here's area 51.

When asking "What is the Internet?", I never thought it would be something as obtrusive.

As an experiment, try typing in your home address into Google maps and check out the satellite image.  Post back here what you find.  (Does it look similar?  Is it potentially invasive?)

So without further adu let me drop my two cents into the ring:

responding to Cameron:

1.  My definition of the internet is: Illusion.

Some of us are currently grounded in staring at a machine instead of just communicating telepathically.  While we all can do it and some do, (i.e. dreams, Out of Body Experiences, astral travel, just thinking aka projection) , some of us are:

a.  Unable to believe (telepathy, etc.)
b.  Too scared to deal with what they know is the truth (telepathy, etc.)
c.  Worried that they will slip up some how and accidentally let someone in on their hidden secrets, think the wrong thing, (this is the problem with realization of reality manipulation and "god" powers), and need a buffer, something in between them and the world that can be edited and changed and kept from blah blah blah.

Avatism is a cross between astral projection, straight up projecting, and past life regression.  It has to do with meditaing backwards or forwards and remebering all of your memories from all of your lifes that you have "lived" and have yet to "live", as there is no such thing as time, just this moment ans what we choose to remeber, this is the only thing seperating us from all of our existents, including "everything" and "nothing". 

It is ourselves that are behind the master control, or command center, take a look in the mirror, the machine resides behind the illusion of of flesh and bone, and is focused in the antenna, or brain.  We are the "master control"

I must add here that I find it nessacary to point out the masons who are the children of kane who really are the lizards who really are nothing more then a lost race of souless creatures, created by, US, who then try to manipulate reality by causing us to do dumb shit and think about or rather obsess over "physical" ideas, things that would other wise not exist and we would have no use for, hence causing us to create and invent things, like computers to trick us in to not believing in ourselves and allowing us to be manipulated easier by the machine of capatilism, focusing energy on materilism creating higher density matter, from our own energy. ramble ramble ramble....

it's very much easier for me to diiscuss this in person with people as I can look you in the eyes, stare straight into your exsitence and tell you exactly what it is that you need to know, as the overstimulation of our society blocks are true thoughts out and confuses us from saying what we are thinking and makes us over think what we say and restate things yada yada yada

the anserws lie in the subconconsious, switching the ego for the id and keeping the super-ego from tricking us in to believing that it's the id and getting us to kill off the other two instead of metaprogramming ourselves to take care of eachother.

ouch my head hurts pulling all this through...

I just hope that with this extra channeling doesn't have to cause me to rest sooner then I would like, just have to daily flush with meditaion and keep the vampires at bay, after all, I am just a stupid meat puppet. =] =] =] =] ah duh 8p

anyways,

bit o' void

non_existent11

ps sorry this is just bringing back up old stuff.....
www.memoryhole.org

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I was inspired to write this article because as of late I have witnessed the Internet deteriorate into a cesspool of poison. >From propaganda, to all out black-op psyop controls being waged upon people that have been sucked into a trap via transference of all knowledge mixed with error!
 
You see nothing is ever free, there is no free ride and the Internet was not a free gift. It was a weapon engaged to be launched once it had fully circulated the global web matrix. It was intended to trap, separate, conquer and divide, all while masquerading as a wonderful communication device offering unlimited potential!
 
There is no need for nuclear war, there is no need for Armageddon, or world ending earthquakes, volcanoes or meteorite hits and or Fascist, Communistic takeovers, and all the other evil machinations conceived of in the heart of man by the doomsayers or the electronic miscreants of dissinformation. For why use play-toys when you have a weapon that is far more powerful than anything ever used on this world or any other. Why use a weapon of mass destruction when the pen is mightier than the sword?
 
The destruction mankind faces is the loss of personal integrity, character, and spiritual defense. And most of all the loss of INTERNAL MIND, warping the SOUL - the only link to truth!
 
The Internet has become a weapon to create mass confusion, fear, terror, and worst of all spiritual emptiness, all while parading as a vehicle of power..
 
I have never been so horrified as I have been as of late to watch fellow humans deteriorate lower than the animal kingdom. Their speech has become a cesspool of ignorance and profanity. Their conscience has fallen beneath the dark edges of hell itself. And Spiritual knowledge has all but ceased to exist as people continue to turn their hearts away from truth and enter the world of illusion produced daily by thrill seekers engaged in spidering negative kill shots into the arena of MIND!
 
Truth is being bartered with lie after lie as it becomes impossible to wage through the pollution of garbage while trying to ferret out that one little splice of perfection while being buried hip deep in the confusion!
 
So many fail to understand that this type of military weapon is powerful beyond words. For I have often stated that 95% water mixed with only 5% arsenic is still deadly, it will kill you. It is not how much truth is being shared, it is the small percentage of lie mixed with truth like a spirited drink of rum and coke that will eventually lose its taste while numbing your mind into servitude and delusion.
 
The trail of truth drags behind the lowest form of lie conceived and buried within its own vomit because the individuals fail to decode and separate that which is spiritually sanctified from the unholy!
 
Instead the lie rises to the top as cream and the entire glass is discarded in favor of the new poison desiring ever so patiently for the new arousal to perform its necessary agenda on the dark recesses of the gray matter!
 
Time and time again it never dawns on even the most attentive and ardent that they are being played with like a finely tuned fiddle masqueraded about as a beautiful piece of music.
 
Millions are reaching out to get their daily fix hoping that the next drink will give them that proverbial salvation they all seek in their own way. Yet each and every drink brings with it even more detrimental destruction than the last!
 
Each and every time truth really does find its way in this box of illusion it is quickly dismantled in favor of the new potion or elixir thereby throwing the power away from the people and instead taking in the destruction and damnation to the soul!......

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What is the Internet?

Well, one thing it is is a network.  I've been witnessing an intense and highly enthusiastic example of networking over on this forum.  Before you read through the thread, here is the intention for posting it here.

- good ideas come and go
- often times they go due to lack of awareness and financial support
- this community is presenting a new approach to raising capital for a small business venture
- a venture which will directly benefit each individual investor
- as well as reinventing the concept of collective ownership, and publicly traded stock
- the proof is in the pudding
- people came, people supported, money was raised, people were pleased

There is much to gleam from this example, and it is best to just read through and see what strikes you.

(the caveat is: I did buy into this concept and am not trying to sell you on it.  in fact, it is no longer being offered (there was only 200 spots available).  so, it just offers as an example of the networking principle, and how it may be used in the future to solve problems, and provide tangible solutions to communities of like-minded individuals.  as well, this particular story is just beginning, time will tell if the investment was wise or not - the point being made is the mode of using the internet for networking)

cameron, I'll email you privately so as to keep your thread on-topic.
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I too have occasionally posted questions on Nobel Realms which haven't been answered, so I can sympathize, even while I personally can't grasp your way of thinking (nor Tom's nor Cameron's). It's just beyond my comprehension, even though I carefully read every word.

Murphy, when I don't understand someone else's way of thinking, I ask them to clarify it.  By not taking this step, you relinquish the right to complain about not understanding.  Of course, it's "specifics" that matter in understanding.  The devil's in the details.  One who searches not for details, searches not for understanding.

If someone doesn't answer my questions, I keep asking, and I also look elsewhere for answers.  Then, if I find something of interest, I usually get back to the people who didn't respond to my initial request, and inform them of my findings.  Most likely people just don't have an answer to your question.  Don't assume it is because YOU posted the question that it is not being answered.  For example, if you find out why your eyes are overly sensitive, and you find out what the LCD screen does for to this sensitivity, I would be interested to hear this.

Does this make sense?

It is ok that no one has responded to my questions

Seems like there are good people here and learning about each others ideas (even if we don't understand them) helps build communication. Feel free to ask for clarification if you are curious. Explore other ideas if you are not

There is a thread at http://montalk.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=109 titled "what is the internet?"

I posed some questions there that haven't been answered.

The thread speculated about the nature of intelligence and if some networks similar to the internet were capable of achieving AI and how that AI would function.

I too have occasionally posted questions on Nobel Realms which haven't been answered, so I can sympathize, even while I personally can't grasp your way of thinking (nor Tom's nor Cameron's). It's just beyond my comprehension, even though I carefully read every word.

Believe me, if I had anything of value to respond I would do so, because I can see alot of thought was put into your questions.

That's why I can sorta relate to what Cafth says below about "not belonging here" (even while I can't understand most of the articles):

UPON CLICKING, SCROLL DOWN TO END:
http://members.aol.com/cafthtalks/volumetwo/CS2_11.htm

Seems that in this world, if there are only two people who are complementary/kindred spirits of each other, forces contrive to deliberately keep them from hooking up to each other.

Auendove wrote:

For now the car and 'puter are up and running, and after I made my post yesterday it occurred to me, DOH!, that I might consider empowering my machines on a daily basis, rather than waiting until they break again.  HA! ...I can't believe I just wrote that "outloud!"

Truth is stranger than fiction, and if everyone could see what psychics and LSD'ers are "privileged" to see - their hair would stand on end.

Believe me, you're not imagining it. The most subtle part, is that it's intermingled, because as humans, of course, we're all prone to mistakes, absentmindedness, losing stuff, so sometimes it really is our own errors. But these entities use that against us to make us think "hey, I'm really going senile".

Another thing I'm practically convinced of, is that they have been tampering with my field of vision. Like, they can tweak the fine print of ads (both unline & offline) so that I "overlook" a vital stipulation in an ad, or else I might read the ad saying that it's a "full set" when it's really just a single item, causing me to have grossly overpaid. And when I read the ad again I groan "how can that be? I was sure I read it differently!" You would think that after enough repetitions of this scenario I'd have learned to be doubly cautious! Well, that's exactly what I am, yet it continues to happen. In other words, though I have no proof, I suspect that they create illusions within the illusion of life, sorta like magicians' sleight of hand. The latest example: I've been expecting both a techie as well as an alternative practitioner to get back to me for days already. I'm still waiting - my life is constantly on hold WAITING for people who have become distracted, and I have absolutely no doubt anymore that those distractions are created by entities because invariably these people wind up excusing themselves along these lines: "suddenly XXX happened and therefore blah blah blah..." Then they go on to exclaim "this never happened before!" If each of these NUMEROUS-BUT-SEPARATE people would realize how many others have mimicked mirror words to me, they'd flip their lids! Some apt titles for my life might be "Heads They Win, Tails I Lose" or "Alice in ManipulationLand".

Murphy,

This topic was supposed to be about the internet, and the ideas of AI and machines' interactions with humans, and yet once again, you've managed to post a "woe is me, I'm a victim" post which has nothing to do with the topic, and only serves to complain endlessly about how everyone and everything is out to victimize you, and trying to draw everybody in to your neverending personal problems.   And by the looks of all your posts..........your personal problems never end.  It's mind boggling.   Are all of your posts on this forum going to be this way?!   I mean honestly.  Your posts just always have such an incredibly negative feel to them, always talking about how you're a victim, how everybody's out to get you, how nothing ever works out for you, how you're always under attack.  I addressed this over on your "Thanks for starting this board Montalk" thread where you had this post that was just nothing but victimization.....as usual!

Celephais...

There is a thread at http://montalk.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=109 titled "what is the internet?"

I posed some questions there that haven't been answered.

The thread speculated about the nature of intelligence and if some networks similar to the internet were capable of achieving AI and how that AI would function.

I suggested reality is holographic and that ALL levels of reality were involved in the same struggle to achieve [control?] AI. I wondered if this was good or bad.

What is AI?

Is it an independent intelligence created by the sum of the parts providing it information?

Lets speculate about this at two levels.

1) What is a human?

Can our nervous system be considered a network that presents information to our ego from the individual components of our body (workstations) so our ego can achieve intelligence? I think so.

Our ego is maintained by this network, without it we wouldn't exist here.

Mechanically if our ego ignores the input of our body it risks disolution from wandering into dangerous situations which abound.

The individual workstations (cells) of our body depend on our ego to process the information it gets to allow it to provide the sustenance the workstations require in order to exist.

So who runs the show?

STS.... The ego decides it is in charge and utilizes or ignores input from its internal network at will. The ego becomes subjective by only acknowledging information it desires to acknowledge. Is this AI? Is this Freewill? Is this a centralized network?

STO... The ego decides it is part of a system that is controlled by the workstations and direction is set by the consensus of the individual components. ALL information is processed and given equal consideration so the system is objective. Is this AI? Is this freewill?  Is this a distributed network?

So who are we? If we are STS are we our ego? If we are STO are we the representative of our parts (workstations)?

2) The human race...

Is the internet equivelent to our nervous system and the "human consciousness" equivelant to our ego?

If the human race is going in a direction that is not directed by the majority of humans is the "human consciousness" AI? Is it STO or STS? Is it subjective or objective?

Is the planet earth 1 cell in the organism we call the universe? Is the human race 1 workstation in the network of the universe?

Is one cell equivelant to a universe?

For now the car and 'puter are up and running, and after I made my post yesterday it occurred to me, DOH!, that I might consider empowering my machines on a daily basis, rather than waiting until they break again.  HA! ...I can't believe I just wrote that "outloud!"

Truth is stranger than fiction, and if everyone could see what psychics and LSD'ers are "privileged" to see - their hair would stand on end.

Believe me, you're not imagining it. The most subtle part, is that it's intermingled, because as humans, of course, we're all prone to mistakes, absentmindedness, losing stuff, so sometimes it really is our own errors. But these entities use that against us to make us think "hey, I'm really going senile".

Another thing I'm practically convinced of, is that they have been tampering with my field of vision. Like, they can tweak the fine print of ads (both unline & offline) so that I "overlook" a vital stipulation in an ad, or else I might read the ad saying that it's a "full set" when it's really just a single item, causing me to have grossly overpaid. And when I read the ad again I groan "how can that be? I was sure I read it differently!" You would think that after enough repetitions of this scenario I'd have learned to be doubly cautious! Well, that's exactly what I am, yet it continues to happen. In other words, though I have no proof, I suspect that they create illusions within the illusion of life, sorta like magicians' sleight of hand. The latest example: I've been expecting both a techie as well as an alternative practitioner to get back to me for days already. I'm still waiting - my life is constantly on hold WAITING for people who have become distracted, and I have absolutely no doubt anymore that those distractions are created by entities because invariably these people wind up excusing themselves along these lines: "suddenly XXX happened and therefore blah blah blah..." Then they go on to exclaim "this never happened before!" If each of these NUMEROUS-BUT-SEPARATE people would realize how many others have mimicked mirror words to me, they'd flip their lids! Some apt titles for my life might be "Heads They Win, Tails I Lose" or "Alice in ManipulationLand".

Here's an interesting quote from this article:

There's that Stanford again.  <head scratching occurs>