free energy from nature (Page 1 of 3)

I am reading Tesla's works right now (jsut started so not much to say on it yet) - but I am extremely interested in all things energy. As enery (in all forms) is a source of control - both good and bad.

I am currently researching getting a bio-diesel vehicle, or possibly a TDI. (prefer bio-diesel, so if anyone knows anythign about this - please chime in...

Anyway - while I am not familiar with what you are talking about - one thing that instantly popped into my head when reading the quote you posted was utilizing the available water pressure already provided to each house hold to supply power... I dont know why but this was a strong thought as I was reading the quote.

I will look into it more - to see if it is possible to create a small hydro-pressure power plant hooked in line with the water supply to a home to produce electricity while not incurring a water bill...

/random.

UPDATE:

Montalk - Thanks for these links.  And great article on the conservation of momentum.

This Finsrud Device looks fascinating. (images here and here, also, here but only small images seem to be available)  Something straight out of a sci-fi movie.  Mr. Reidar Finsrud sounds like an engaged individual, with a good balance of art, science, and natural intuitive observation.

From here:

Any thoughts on this "schuyler pendulum" concept?

Of minimal note, the "free-energy" yahoo group 'moderators' easily dismiss the Finsrud device.

Have you built the device from your recent article, Montalk?

TDI - Turdo Diesel Injection, a much more efficient engine than the crap that mainstream vehicle companies sell you - it gets about ~45 miles per gallon.

Its just disgusting that hte car companies push out new models of cars every year, and try to lure buyers with better features and "enhancements" to the vehicles - but in reality there is no major innovation in the primary functioning of the car and its efficiency.

(I added the Menger magnet motor plans in my last post)

Tapping the earth's rotational energy would yield very little energy unless the coupling between device and earth were strong. The stronger the coupling, the more energy can be tapped. With a pendulum, the coupling is weak and any load placed upon energy derived would act to dampen the oscillation, as though it were under water which would make it lose its coupling with the earth's rotation. So although it may function as a perpetual motion machine, getting its energy from a mundane source like earth's rotation, I doubt the schulyer pendulum could achieve significant over-unity.

However, another question is what makes the earth spin? Can't just be rotational momentum left since it formed in the solar system. If something is powering it, then the same principle could be applied on a smaller scale. Getting right to the source, in other words.

No, don't have the tools at the moment unless the design can be simplifed. I seek the simplest and most efficient design possible, one that's easy to build and gives the greatest asymmetry between action and reaction. I added some device ideas at the end of the article today. The Gravitational Inertial Thruster by David Cowlishaw is very efficient, but perhaps it could be improved.

Thought about the possibility of a solid state device that alters the spin-orbit coupling of electrons for one half of their orbit and restores it for the other half. That would be an atomic version of the GIT. Not sure what can alter spin-orbit coupling...maybe electrostatic fields, which might partly explain the biefeld brown effect.

{i lied.  i'm experiencing 'pool-side posting'} ^_^ {please, try not to feel sorry for me... it's a shame I know.}

Moments ago, the Minato machine was slashdot'd.  {some interesting commentary from the slashdot community}

Here's some:
"It's been done with maglev trains by Lawrence Livermore National Labs using Halbrach arrays."
(from the above link:)
"Heh, This guy will soon end up in the oil company holding cell with the guy trying to make a porcelain engine that runs on water."

"Heh, This guy will soon end up in the oil company holding cell with the guy trying to make a porcelain engine that runs on water ...down the hall from the vault containing the Skynet microchips from the future, all those Tesla inventions that the government has been sitting on, alien car motors from Roswell, turbines that run on Orgone energy, and real working cold fusion.
By the way, the porcelain engine with water? I've got one in my bathroom. It turns on when you flip a metal lever."

"The oil companies will hunt this man down, steal his patents, then dump his dismembered corpse into the ocean."

"Magnet power cars are a threat to national security."

"I could probably make a device that could take 16 watts in and generate 300 volt-amperes (AC) out - but the volt-amperes would be almost 90 degrees out of phase, and the power factor would be less than 5%. The real power out of the device would be substantially less than 16 watts. There is no way in physics to have more than 1 watt out per watt in, "magical magnets" or no. If the device was extracting energy from the magnets, they would be depleted and the device would run down after a while. That's 2nd semester physics, basic E&M.
Either the proponents of this device are complete incompetents, or they are complete frauds. I'm inclined to believe the latter, as incompetents tend not to have the sales skills evident in the article."

"Yes, I read the article. It has all the signs of something that needs justly debunking.
The 'no formal training' genius.
Power out > Power in
Use of the words 'over unity'
A tale of skepticism from scientists
Little guy vs. big guyes woes
Failing to identify the 'fundamental force of nature' that is being harnessed."

"I find magnetism fascinating for many reasons. Apparently, there are a wide number of interesting magnetic effects, dozens and dozens of them, of which many are very poorly understood. It is, I suppose, possible that some non-linearity in this assembly could lead to interesting effects.
In any case, I really posted this on the basis of the concept of the permanent magnet 'wearing out'. Has anyone ever heard of or seen such a thing? Yes, yes, I know, heat it up or hit it with a hammer or something... But seriously, it seems that magnetic phenomena like defying gravity don't really degrade with time."

"JOEL JOHNSON -- After reading the story about Kohei Minato's super-efficient motor, reader Chris Drake wrote in with this explanation:
All Minato's power calculations appear to be wrong (apparently it's a common mistake many scientists make); you can't measure input power using a multimeter when the current drain isn't constant. You can see his workshop in his videos - all his calculations are done using common multimeters and a desktop calculator.  Minato motors use an optical sensor to "switch on" the "stator" (electromagnet) for a fraction of each RPM, so he'd need an oscilloscope and some funky math to figure out how much current the motors are really sucking up (or a stopwatch; and wait for the driving battery to go dead, then estimate based on the battery capacity).  It's still a super neat idea though - which seems to boil down to "drive motors from the outside using aligned permanent magnets and momentary pulses from the stator" instead of the traditional "sick the stator in the middle" idea."

"As long as he's using a constant voltage supply, the average input power can be calculated from the average current, which is what a standard multimeter will show if the current is fluctuating quickly and periodically.
This statement is wrong several ways. First, you probably mean RMS ("root mean square") current, not "average current". The average current in an AC signal is of course typically zero. AC multimeters display RMS current and voltage.
Second, you cannot in general calculate average power from RMS (or average) voltage and current, even if the voltage happens to be constant and the current is somehow time-varying. The familiar P=VI formula is for instantaneous power, i.e. P(t)=V(t)*I(t). It happens that if the current and voltage are in phase (i.e. the load is purely resistive) then the average power is the product of the RMS voltage and current. This is a special case.
Third, it is not that hard to get even a good multimeter to read a time-varying current incorrectly. They are designed for low frequency signals. If your current is time varying with even moderately high frequency (e.g. >1000 Hz) most multimeters will not correctly read even the RMS current. A poor multimeter might not even give an accurate RMS current for a low-frequency but non-sinusoidal signal.
This is not the first time someone has produced a free energy device scam based on the faulty assumptions that P=VI holds for average values and a multimter always gives an accurate 'average' voltage or current, regardless of how complicated the waveform of the signal is."

"I explained that energy in a system worked like a bank account (bank guard -remember?) You put energy in and you can take it back out, but you can't get quite as much back out as you put in because there was a service charge in the form of friction. He begrudgingly understood. I complemented him on his nice drawings."

Also, Geek.com did an article on this Minato machine.

As with all places, slashdot is known for receiving a large quantity of "debunking" trolls.  Discernment is needed; especially with forums.

From this website:

Not sure what the "Symetronâ„¢ advanced motor technology" is - but the pr department did a good job with this video. 

To Matthew (YesExistence), in response to the post you just wrote but deleted after I finished what I wrote below:

Your posts aren't gone, I put them into a PDF file here for you and others to retrieve. These posts were way off topic - this thread is about free energy technologies, not dadaism among other things. Compare the posts above with the posts I removed and placed in the PDF file.

Dadaism is defined as an entirely subjective artform whose only identifying trait is that it's devoid of any coherence, meaning, sense, or logic. This is how your posts come off. If, as you said, your posts contained "stuff there important to the human race, namely, oh, about everything (yawn)" then it will remain inaccessible if  barely anyone in the human race can understand what you're trying to say.

Members here have asked you to clarify yourself because they were confused by your posts - but you do not, either by not responding or by saying something equally as confusing in return. I have repeatedly asked you privately to present your ideas in a coherent manner for the sake of harmonious flow of discussion. You never respond to these requests, wait several days, then continue posting incoherent stuff. This goes back to when you first joined the YahooGrops version of this board. I asked you again and again, but alas nothing has changed. So this is my last request - if you keep this up then I must remove you from the group because as I emailed you on May 1st,

If you or anyone have a problem with this, email me privately and we'll work it out.You are free to share your views - just present them coherently. If you write in your unique style as an artform, then please take it to the "Humor and Fun" thread. People are free to visit your website to learn more about your views: http://www.geocities.com/pvdimension/links

I intend for this thread to get back on topic...