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#16 2008-01-20 09:51:19

Pinkrlyq
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Registered: 2006-05-25

Re: The Night I Possessed A Secret Society Bimbo

Magical_Mongoose wrote:

Sounds like an aspect of your consciousness exploring a potential future, or possibly a current occurrence with some degree of "smoke and mirrors" added as people have noted.
What if we were able to do this on a regular basis? What if these altered states of perception became abilities we could activate routinely? As has been said, the boundary between the dimensions is thinning, but how much of it is "us" and how much of it is caused from "out there?" Maybe there's a positive feedback loop that will accelerate this process based on our ability to imagine and visualize concepts beyond the normal scope of our 3D awareness.

I'm completely with you on those thoughts, MM!!  Complete conscious control of these (and other) kinds of abilities is a goal that I can see manifesting in the future.  I'm not sure if activating those abilities would be due to a 'natural' process (something that would simply be activated at some predestined time or as a result of being exposed to some type of cosmic energy), or if there will be some type of technology that will activate some kind of latent abilities in certain people.  I agree that the veils are definitely thinning, but what concerns me at this point is what type of dimensions are closest to us right now.  I'm hoping there will be more brighter dimensions bleeding through, rather than the other possible types.


"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." ~ Mark Twain

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#17 2008-01-24 08:43:53

Pinkrlyq
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Re: The Night I Possessed A Secret Society Bimbo

I just heard something on Coast to Coast that made my ears perk up.... Evidently, a scientist at NASA has leaked information that Asteroid TU24 (not the one headed for Mars) now has a 50/50 chance of hitting Earth on January 29 or 30, 2008.  Apparently, there's been a media blackout over this because they don't want to panic 'ordinary' people, but the 'well-off', "important" people have been informed so they will have time to get to their "safe places" (aka- underground bases).  David Sereda was the one who called into Coast to Coast and reported this.  He said he's gotten a couple of different e-mails from scientists at NASA that want to get the information out.  He said that in the last 10 days, TU24 has gotten 27% closer to Earth in its trajectory.

Now.... I wouldn't panic or anything.  I don't really know who David Sereda is or how reliable any of this information is, but I thought it was interesting news in light of that 'dream' I had a last week (especially about the "important people" being informed so they had time to get to their "safe places").... neutral

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#18 2008-01-24 21:52:02

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Re: The Night I Possessed A Secret Society Bimbo

It looks like it's definitely true that TU24 has got much closer than expected

http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2008 … ce-update/

But I still don't yet feel concerned it might hit us.


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#19 2008-01-25 02:39:51

Pinkrlyq
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Re: The Night I Possessed A Secret Society Bimbo

I agree, Ayahuasca.  There's no need to get worried about this one. 
Here's another link to the observational data: http://echo.jpl.nasa.gov/asteroids/2007 … nning.html

It just gave me a bit of a start when I heard about it last night on the radio (hadn't heard of anything concerning this asteroid before last night)... it brought that freaky dream back to me and gave me the chills.  It's just an odd coincidence... must have been picking up on some odd frequencies when I had that dream... or maybe in some parallel world that asteroid has an orbit that would bring it within striking distance.  Who knows, but I'm glad that in our world that big rock will just sail past us in a harmless manner.


"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." ~ Mark Twain

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#20 2008-01-25 03:23:37

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Re: The Night I Possessed A Secret Society Bimbo

Maybe, the Masseuse in Ledger's apartment was a secret society bimbo.

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#21 2008-01-26 03:21:13

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Re: The Night I Possessed A Secret Society Bimbo

Wow, pink that is amazing.  I would love to be able to experience someone elses life for a moment.  My is such a pain in the ass.  This karmic learning stuff sucks, if I could only have a fantasy vacation.  So getting back to the dream, you say that were fully aware and fully in control of the body at times.  I would think that you would be so completely overcome by the fact of occupying a different body that you could not have functioned in a calm manner.  How could you know what to do, where to sit, where you were?  And how did your consciousness inhabiting the bimbo's body not draw attention to the fact that the bimbo's mannerisms had changed?  I am still completely fascinated by the prospect of having full consciousness in a dream, while inhabiting another body.  Amazing.  Quite a coincidence isn't it that you had this dream, and the David Sereda leak comes out right now too.

I like the concept of occupying your future self as well.  I have been trying to discipline myself into a state where I have a greater control over my consciousness so that I could begin to expand my awareness beyond the bounds of the body, similar to as you discuss with inhabiting other bodies to release demons.  Something that I believe I necessity cannot be destroyed, that causes evil to fester and grow amongst itself and then come tearing back to terrorize that which we believe to be good.  If we begin to bring back together the two halfs of our whole which we label good and evil, then evil won't cause us quite as much trouble.  If there is only one thing that exists, God or whatever, then those demons are part of god, and those demons are part of you too.  I don't think banishment or attack will ever solve any demonic problem, it will only chase it to the next host.  However, when speaking generally as I am, it is easy to overlook the details.


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#22 2008-01-26 11:07:13

Pinkrlyq
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Re: The Night I Possessed A Secret Society Bimbo

(sorry for writing such a long freakin' book here, but might as well "get it all out" before NR is no more, and I'd be thinking I wished I'd said something more)....

Hi Capitan!  I know it sounds weird, but whenever I've had a dream that I'm not in my own body, it's not that difficult to move around.  I guess it's not weird to me because it's happened my entire life, so when I began thinking about how to answer your questions, I really had to stop and think one of the experiences through (like when someone's trying to explain how to drive a stick shift).  First of all, it's never been a conscious decision... So I don't ever go to bed thinking, "Okay, tonight I want to get inside so-and-so's head."  Nope, it's never worked that way for me.  I just fall asleep and the next thing I become aware of is being in a very vivid dream and having an awareness of who I am and where I am.  You know how you just know who you are and what you look like?  Well, when I'm in one of these dreams, I feel all of those things... and then I realize that all of those feelings don't match up with the "me" I know.  But as far as moving around or speaking or thinking, I've really not experienced any trouble.. it's always just like moving and speaking in my own body.  Sometimes it's like I'm just an invisible observer in the back of their mind.  Occasionally, it's more of a 'sharing' experience (like this last one).  When 'sharing' the body, I'm assuming that I wouldn't be allowed to take over unless it's in line with the person's own will.  With this last dream, when the bimbo was in control, I felt like I was just kind of spacing out, like being in a deep 'alpha state'.  When I took over, I don't know if her consciousness would have had the same experience, but we were definitely in the same body without any real 'complications'.

Now, with that said, I've also got to say it looks like Murphy's Law does exist in the astral realms, too.....I've only ever experienced one time that I kind of freaked-out  ("kind of" is putting it mildly, in retrospect)... I really hope it was just a dream, because if not, I completely insulted an innocent woman and her sister.  I thought I was waking up out of a dream where I was a young male soldier, but I didn't wake up in my own body.  I found myself in a quite 'full-figured', middle-aged woman, and for a minute, I thought that was my own body, and I couldn't figure out what was going on.  Her sister was nearby, and when I accidentally entered this woman's body, they were just getting ready to go out to the store.  I popped in when the woman was in mid-sentence about how she much she liked her new scarf and hat or some such.  When I gained 'awareness', I blurted out, "What the F*CK?!  This isn't right!  I'm not this fat!!" and then her sister said something like, "Margie?!  What's wrong, Margie??", and I retorted, "Who the f*ck are YOU?!"  Her poor sister became a little hysterical trying to calm 'Margie' down... unfortunately, no one involved seemed to realize what had happened, and because I thought I was zooming back into my own body, I must have 'manifested' in full force.  I mean, I really hope that all of this was just a dream.  But if it wasn't, I hope that after I left the woman was alright (aka-back to 'normal').  I didn't do anything to physically or mentally harm her (if I did, I would have felt it as if it were happening to me), but I feel horrible that I freaked out like that.  I think when I'm in those states, it's my subconscious mind that's really in control.  In my waking state, I would have never used such foul language so consistently.  Anyway, I finally did manage to wake up in my own body (after turretically dropping the f-bomb a few more times).... I didn't know if I should have laughed or been scared, but I certainly was relieved to be back in the correct body.

I really wish I knew if there was any truth to any of these wild dreams I've had over the years.  For all I know, I've just got a couple of synapses that are wired wrong or something! lol!  When I was a kid, nearly all of these types of experiences took place 'off planet', and they really were like little adventures.  I remember being killed in a war on a planet similar to Earth when I was 7 or 8 years old, and then my consciousness flew up into another being right afterwards.  I didn't realize that there was anything weird about it.  When I got older and listened to debates about religion, I didn't understand why people were wondering what happens after we 'die'.  To me, I'd already seen it first hand, but when I tried to tell anyone, they thought I was joking or told me I was stupid because I didn't know the difference between dreams and reality.  After a while, I just stopped trying to tell anyone about it.   It wasn't until I was about 19 years old that I was at Barnes and Nobles, looking through the books about UFOs and aliens that I came across a book that had drawings of various aliens that people had claimed to witness.  I'll never forget when I began flipping through that book.  I got the chills, the kind that creep all the way up to tingle at your cheeks.  There were at least 3 'aliens' drawn in that book that were identical to some of my dreams as a kid.  Hell, I shared consciousness with a couple of those aliens in my dreams!  And there I was, thinking how in the living craptacular can this BE?!  These people saw this one in '57 and in a different country.... And the kicker is that this book had accounts from the witnesses describing the behaviors of the aliens, and the behaviors matched exactly with my dreams, too!  For a while I thought that these dreams must have been true, but then I got older and opened my mind some more to the other realms of possibilities, and now I'm not sure what is going on.  I don't have enough information to be able to even make an educated guess.  Did my soul come from some other planet where we could go OBE and share others' bodies at will?  Is any of it even "real"?  What's real, then?  Is it all happening in some astral world...or alternate dimensions...or?  Why can't I have conscious control over this 'ability' if it truly is an 'ability'?  Will I ever have conscious control, like I dreamed of when I was my future self?  I dunno... So I like to read about what other people have experienced and learn about new perspectives and ideas.  That's what attracted me to Noble Realms in the first place.  Everyone's extremely open-minded and friendly.

But getting back to your post, Capitan, about the demons and the duality of human nature.  I agree with what you said, as far as it relates to human psychology and nature.  I do also believe that there are 'real' demons out there, though, and they can take over a person's body by force (or maybe it's a kind of dark 'walk-in'?).  In any event, I've seen these people... and they look nearly like an ordinary person.  I'm sure there are full-blown possessions, like the Exorcist, but the ones I'm talking about are not that 'obvious' (for lack of a better word).  Maybe they're not as powerful and still need to rely on the original soul for something (that's a chilling thought).  In any event, in that one dream I had that I was in my future self and hunting down these types of 'demons', I was specifically looking for those demonic entities.  And when I found one (or thought I'd found one), there was a very bright and powerful blast of white/yellow light that somehow came from me, somewhere from the middle of my body or maybe the solar plexus area.  I have no idea how I would even be able to do something like that, but that's what I saw and felt in the dream.  When it happened, it felt like I was somehow able to focus all of my intent and will (from every molecule of my body) into one point in the middle of my body, and it was like a charge that built up until it burst forth from the center.  In the dream, I 'blasted' a red-neck and a couple of cops who were attacking me, but when I blasted them, there was no effect on any of them.... which I understood to mean that none of them were under the influence of this demon I was looking for.  This frustrated my future self immensely, because future me couldn't believe they'd attacked me without reason.  You see, the light blast would only destroy a demon, but it would have no effect on a human.  Anyway, as comic-book as that sounds, it was all very realistic and took place in a town not too far from where I live but don't frequent often.  I also had telekinetic abilities in this dream, too.  So... it went something like this.... I was in constant telepathic communication with another person just like me, but they were inside the building and I was outside.  We were coordinating our efforts to close in on this demon and gather more intel on a 'bigger fish' we wanted to eliminate.  I was outside and trying to get people to a shelter because there was a storm coming, when someone came up behind me.  I was able to see (without turning around) a large guy in a flannel shirt and baseball cap in mid-swing with a 2"x4" aimed at my back.  It appeared to be in slow motion to me, and I mentally threw the board out of his hand and entered into his mind at the same time.  I 'scanned' through his recent memories to see if he had any knowledge of what I was looking for (aka-the demon), and I saw that he did not.  I left his body and somehow 'made' him unconscious so he wouldn't come after me again.  I kept walking and launched a telepathic 'volley' to my 'partner' who was inside to update him on what just happened.  My partner sent me a telepathic 'packet' of information (blueprints, numbers, names, addresses, floor plans and security codes... all things I could store like pictures in my mind and recall later, just as vividly).  I was in the middle of receiving this information when I 'felt' three presences.  My mind or aura (not sure what it was) was able to sense and immediately identify life forms and organic movement at a significant range.  So before I visually saw three men step out of the shadows, I'd already known their positions and intentions.  There were two cops that got out of a car about 30 yards ahead of me and another redneck (the other guys' buddy) approaching from about 10 o'clock.  The redneck made the first move, but they all moved almost simultaneously.  Redneck came at a full run towards me, ready to punch.  Cop on the left drew his weapon level at me, so I acted before thinking, eliminating the most serious threat first.  I threw a thought at the redneck that knocked him off his feet and he flew up and back, back, back until he hit the side of the building where I 'held' him there, about 20 feet off the ground.  My left arm was out, 'holding' him there, cutting off his air until he passed out, but at this point is when I'd blasted them with the bright light because I thought "for sure they can't be acting like this out of their own free will".  I was wrong, and frustrated, and my right arm flew up and and I rotated it 90 degrees, and the cop with the gun (his was beginning to pull the trigger) dropped with a broken neck.  The last guy (the other cop) unsnapped his holster and went for the walkie on his shoulder at the same time.  I didn't want to harm him, so I entered his mind.  Now, the sleeping 'me' in my bed let out a loud "HUH!" because when I was in this cop's mind, I felt like I was him.  I felt my hand on the radio on his left shoulder, felt the weight of his middle-aged gut (from all those nights of nachos, beer, and football watching), I 'remembered' the day he graduated from the academy, his wife (Judy), his two little girls, his house, worries about his mortgage, his dog, his brother, his job, etc.  I took his hands off the walkie and holster and began scanning his memories for anything he would have thought unusual, but that I would have thought of as information on the thing I was tracking, like someone he knew who wasn't acting 'right' or something he thought he'd seen out of the corner of his eye, or anything else that stuck out as 'weird'.  At that point, the 'me' in bed woke up and decided I'd had enough.  Because I'd been getting up throughout this entire dream-time, trying to stop dreaming this intense thing, but every time I fell back asleep, I'd be right back there, picking up where I'd left off before I'd woken up.  That never happens to me normally, so this stood out as significant to me.  Also, at one point, I'd woken up because I thought one of my cats was having an asthma attack or something, but when I opened my eyes to look for the cat, I found two of my cats looking right at me with wide, fearful eyes.... I then realized that it was ME who was breathing like a heifer in heat!  I've never had that happen to me before, either!  That dream was so intense, I felt like I'd just run a mental and physical marathon, and for about an hour after I was awake, my brain felt like more of it was 'active'.  It's hard to explain, and I didn't even know that there was anything more to feel from my melon, but it felt like I was hyper aware of everything on a 360 degree viewpoint.  It felt like all the regions of my brain were waking and flexing, like they'd woken up after a long sleep.  I was hoping the feeling would last, and that maybe that dream had helped to get some synaptic juices flowing in those sleeping portions of my mind, but the feeling went away, and it hasn't come back since.

Woah!.. Helluva a side-track there, but I guess I'm trying to say that I understand the duality of good and evil as it relates to the human psyche, and we all carry our demons with us and deal with our shadows on a daily basis, but I guess my experience with good and evil has been on a more visceral level, if only in my dreams.  It's possible that it was all just a vivid playground my subconscious decided to use as a place in which to chase its own shadows, but I have to wonder, what if there's more to it than just symbolic meaning and fantasy realms?  At any rate, I think this is the longest post I've ever made, and I'm pretty sure it's the longest it's the longest I ever will make! lol!  It's late, and I forgot I was writing this in a post, so I just kept going as if I'd have been typing up a diary entry.  If anyone's read all this, you deserve a gold star or something!

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#23 2008-01-26 11:55:59

nexus
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Re: The Night I Possessed A Secret Society Bimbo

Pinkrlyq wrote:

In the dream, I 'blasted' a couple of red-necks and a cop who were attacking me, but when I blasted them, there was no effect on any of them.... which I understood to mean that none of them were under the influence of this demon I was looking for.  This frustrated my future self immensely, because future me couldn't believe they'd attacked me without reason.  You see, the light blast would only destroy a demon, but it would have no effect on a human.  Anyway, as comic-book as that sounds, it was all very realistic and took place in a town not too far fr So before I visually saw three men step out of the shadows, I'd already known their positions and intentions.  There were two cops that got out of a car about 30 yards ahead of me and another redneck (the other guys' buddy) approaching from about 10 o'clock.  The redneck made the first move, but they all moved almost simultaneously.  Redneck came at a full run towards me, ready to punch.  Cop on the left drew his weapon level at me, so I acted before thinking, eliminating the most serious threat first.  I threw a thought at the redneck that knocked him off his feet and he flew up and back, back, back until he hit the side of the building where I 'held' him there, about 20 feet off the ground.  My left arm was out, 'holding' him there, cutting off his air until he passed out, but at this point is when I'd blasted them with the bright light because I thought "for sure they can't be acting like this out of their own free will".  I was wrong, and frustrated, and my right arm flew up and and I rotated it 90 degrees, and the cop with the gun (his was beginning to pull the trigger) dropped with a broken neck.

Pinkrylyq?  You are really cool.  Have i ever told you that? 

And if there have ever been any misunderstandings between us?   Im sorry.  big_smile

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#24 2008-01-26 12:17:08

Pinkrlyq
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Re: The Night I Possessed A Secret Society Bimbo

LOL!! Nexus!!  Hey, wait a tic.... Wasn't there some sort of Illuminati speak in connection with you in one of these threads somewhere?.... (just kidding) 

But really, talk about having a total BAD ASS dream!  I don't think my subconscious could ever top that one!  When I woke up, I was thinking the only thing missing from that entire night was a soundtrack going in the background of "Everybody was kung-fu fight-ing... Yeah, those cats were quick as lightnin'..." lol
It sounds nuts, but I was really shocked when the future me just snapped that cop's neck, and the me in bed was thinking, "Oh my God!  I've gone over to the dark side!", and somehow that thought got through to the future me in the dream, and I got a response that was no-nonsense.  Future me told me (jeebuz, now I sound like Hiro from Heroes) that "NO! You are on the side of good and light, but there is no room for sentimentality."  It was very much a "warrior mindset".  It was a cool dream, but I don't know if I'd really want that to be my future.

Anyway, nexus, no worries... unless you decide to go all redneck and chase me down with a big piece of lumber.... then I can't guarantee your safety. wink

[Edit:  OH YEAH!! I almost forgot! Here ya go, nexus! http://flyangler.ca/forum/style_emoticons/default/goldstar.gif Good Job, Man!!]

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#25 2008-01-26 13:00:00

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Re: The Night I Possessed A Secret Society Bimbo

ThankYOU pinkrylq!!  It's been so long since i got one of those.  Is that alright?   What i just said?   big_smile

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#26 2008-01-26 19:16:38

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Re: The Night I Possessed A Secret Society Bimbo

Pinkrlyq wrote:

LOL!! Nexus!!  Hey, wait a tic.... Wasn't there some sort of Illuminati speak in connection with you in one of these threads somewhere?.... (just kidding) 

But really, talk about having a total BAD ASS dream!  I don't think my subconscious could ever top that one!  When I woke up, I was thinking the only thing missing from that entire night was a soundtrack going in the background of "Everybody was kung-fu fight-ing... Yeah, those cats were quick as lightnin'..." lol
It sounds nuts, but I was really shocked when the future me just snapped that cop's neck, and the me in bed was thinking, "Oh my God!  I've gone over to the dark side!", and somehow that thought got through to the future me in the dream, and I got a response that was no-nonsense.  Future me told me (jeebuz, now I sound like Hiro from Heroes) that "NO! You are on the side of good and light, but there is no room for sentimentality."  It was very much a "warrior mindset".  It was a cool dream, but I don't know if I'd really want that to be my future.

Anyway, nexus, no worries... unless you decide to go all redneck and chase me down with a big piece of lumber.... then I can't guarantee your safety. wink

[Edit:  OH YEAH!! I almost forgot! Here ya go, nexus! http://flyangler.ca/forum/style_emotico … ldstar.gif Good Job, Man!!]

Hey Pinkrlyq, we're on to nexus, so I think you are okay if you haven't any long-haired canine friends; and I hope you do your own hair.  Watch out for the professional hair products used in beauty shops!

Can I have a gold star too?  I read the whole thingy. Nice last effort!  wink


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#27 2008-01-26 20:31:46

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Re: The Night I Possessed A Secret Society Bimbo

Well pink, that certainly was a long post, but all of it was interesting.  It raises so many questions, and gives me a clearer view to many more.  I'll start with an interesting synchronicity.  Right now in my life I am at a stage where I just can not figure out what I want to do with my life.  So every day I come home from work and think "What do I want to do?"  And usually I cycle through a few possibilities and then decide they are all pointless, or too hard.  So more recently I have been trying to just do things that I "think" are pointless just so that I am productively active.  So a few nights ago I decide that writing a story might be interesting.  So after a few bouts of doubts, I started writing and the topic I chose was waking up in another persons body.  I am almost certain I had already read your initial post, but many of the things and reactions from the character in my story who had awaken in another persons body were just as you described in your story.  Actually I just realized that the story was going to be about someone who goes to sleep and in their dream lives an entire life which he wakes up midlife into the original dreaming body.  However I only got as far in the story where the person had awoken into an unfamiliar body, he was only unfamiliar because it had been so long since he had gone to sleep from his perspective, he had lived half a life in between sleeping and awakening.  However, reading your actual experience about waking up into the other womans body and reacting with shock is very similar to my story, so I thought that was worth commenting on. 

I don't know how familiar you have become with the concept of 3rd density, and 4th density, but it appears the difference between the two is the level of awareness of the individual.  What you mentioned in your "kung foo" story was a much greater level of awareness.  I have what I will call a "memory" of this greater level of awareness.  It is very faint and is not like word imprinted knowledge that I usually think of as a memory.  It is like an emotional, vibrational imprint, that when I think of it it changes my level of consciousness a little bit.  The memory brings a feeling of ease, and the feeling like I should be a lot more aware then I am.  It seems that you are possibly getting glimpses of 4D.  The ability to switch your point of view between all your different selves, this concept being based on the idea that there is only one entity in existence, and you, I, me, we are all it.  So you are just switching your awareness between the different selves that you are a part of the whole.   

Quite interestingly as well the story about your future self also reflected the awareness of the non dualistic nature that I mentioned before.  When you ended up killing the cop that was trying to kill you, the more aware you did not react.  But you considered that action to be bad, and reacted so.  The future you looked at the incident as only necessary. However, I just ran into a point of confusion.  The future you said to you, "No, I am on the side of good"  Hmmm.  See this still gets me all spun up in knots.  Non-duality does not label good and evil.  There just is, and you accept it.  Well I can tell I have a long way to go to either understanding or moving on from this non-duality concept.   

The last thing I would touch on, is that it seems you may be experiencing some of the 4D effects already.  When you mentioned being aware full 360 for a while, I believe that state has been called the hypnagogic state.  It is the state of mind that Thomas Edison tried to enter when trying to invent things.  I am sure it has been called other things as well.  I think it can be a natural thing for many of us.  I think because of the many complexities of the situations and conditions on this planet, that these abilities have been purposely suppressed from humanity.  I believe I had the ability to tap into these abilities but lost them out of some type of rejection on behalf of myself. If no one else could hear, how long would you go on trying to describe sounds to people when no one could understand what you were talking about.  And especially on my part, it seems like I shut off my ability because it did not fit in with the world that others told me existed.   

I have had three such experiences with hyper awareness that I can recall, all three coming from the use of the psychedelic substance "Ayahausca".  The substance produces quite an amazing effect on an individual.  It is essentially forces you to become completely aware of another reality, or another aspect of reality.  I believe it is a place that we could enter naturally, but there are things that block that from happening.  Scientifically what psychedelics do is provide a chemical substance to the DMT receptors in the brain.  DMT being like a fuel for the pineal gland, or third eye to turn it on.  So liken it to the idea that somehow imagine all humans eyes had been sown shut.  And you go a full life with no sight, and then you take your sown shut eyes, cut the stitches and tape your eyelids open so you couldn't close them if you wanted to.  Only I believe an active pineal is a much more powerful sensory organ than any other.  Having it open allows for a much greater level of consciousness as well.  When I would come down from "Ayahausca" the last stage of altered consciousness was what I call the hypnagogic state, or hyperawareness.  I cannot be sure if the hypnagogic state was caused by the intensity of the experiences I had, or if the hypnagogic state is directly linked to the function of the pineal, and could be considered to be one of the lower states of its active functioning.  At any rate any individual who can activate their pineal functionality would be in for one hell of a consciousness experience.


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#28 2008-01-27 09:42:04

Pinkrlyq
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From: IL
Registered: 2006-05-25

Re: The Night I Possessed A Secret Society Bimbo

titmouse_ wrote:

Hey Pinkrlyq, we're on to nexus, so I think you are okay if you haven't any long-haired canine friends; and I hope you do your own hair.  Watch out for the professional hair products used in beauty shops!

Can I have a gold star too?  I read the whole thingy. Nice last effort!  wink

hmm.... Thanks for the warning.  I'll keep an eye out for those suspicious looking salon products. wink

And here's your gold star, titmouse_! Good Job! http://flyangler.ca/forum/style_emoticons/default/goldstar.gif

nexus wrote:

ThankYOU pinkrylq!!  It's been so long since i got one of those.  Is that alright?   What i just said?   big_smile

lol Not to worry, my smiting powers only worked in that one dream, so feel free to say anything you like. smile

Capitan wrote:

So a few nights ago I decide that writing a story might be interesting.  So after a few bouts of doubts, I started writing and the topic I chose was waking up in another persons body. [...] Actually I just realized that the story was going to be about someone who goes to sleep and in their dream lives an entire life which he wakes up midlife into the original dreaming body.

That's great that you're focusing your thoughts and ideas into write a story.  It may be synchronisitic that you got the idea around the time I started posting about these dreams.  I wish I'd have some greater depth of understanding about all of this to help your ideas along, but I'm still trying to figure it all out, too.

Capitan wrote:

I don't know how familiar you have become with the concept of 3rd density, and 4th density, but it appears the difference between the two is the level of awareness of the individual.

By density, you mean dimension, right? Whereas, this reality is 3rd density/dimension and the 4th one is supposed to be the astral, and therefore when one's in the astral realms, one's  awareness is also increased?

Capitan wrote:

The ability to switch your point of view between all your different selves, this concept being based on the idea that there is only one entity in existence, and you, I, me, we are all it.  So you are just switching your awareness between the different selves that you are a part of the whole.

Well, yes and no.  We are all connected on a subatomic level... We're all connected at the quantum field (if I understand it correctly).  But each of our soul's vibrations has a unique frequency, and so each of us manifests our wills in unique ways.  Even though we're all human, we all have different thoughts and ideas, otherwise we'd be of one hive mind.  So when my astral self travels into another person's body (if that's what's happening in these dreams), there are two unique wills in one body.  I wouldn't have thought that could be true, but maybe it is possible.  So, even though we're all made of the same "stuff", we use it differently.  It's Free Will.

Capitan wrote:

Quite interestingly as well the story about your future self also reflected the awareness of the non dualistic nature that I mentioned before.  When you ended up killing the cop that was trying to kill you, the more aware you did not react.  But you considered that action to be bad, and reacted so.  The future you looked at the incident as only necessary. However, I just ran into a point of confusion.  The future you said to you, "No, I am on the side of good"  Hmmm.  See this still gets me all spun up in knots.  Non-duality does not label good and evil.  There just is, and you accept it.  Well I can tell I have a long way to go to either understanding or moving on from this non-duality concept.

Well, I'm not sure if the dream was only symbolic or if it was a glimpse into a potential bad-ass version of myself.  It certain felt 'realistic', and in that case, non-duality wouldn't really apply.  Even if it was only symbolic, I think people here (meaning Earth) usually believe that complete awareness is only reserved for those beings who are 'enlightened' or 'evolved' (or 'ascended'), and therefore must have surpassed certain boundaries we consider 'lower vibration' traits.  This isn't necessarily true.  There are beings who were birthed from the foulest realms that have just as much knowledge and awareness as an "angel" would... the difference is in their desire of how they manifest their free will.  I don't think that having a higher awareness necessarily rids a being of their individuality and their free will... Just like here on Earth; two college graduates who've had exposure to the same knowledge don't always agree on everything and tend to apply their knowledge in different ways, to achieve their goals (and their goals may be different, too).  I guess a better way to say it is that most people think that if another person could know the exact same thing(s) they do, that the other person would see everything the same way they do, but that's just not true.  I believe another misconception is of the popular thinking that if some being(s) could attain absolute knowledge and wisdom of every last nook and cranny in existence, then they'd be "above" it all or somehow beyond the troublesome patterns that seem to plague the lesser evolved species, and then everything would finally be better.  ...maybe, but then again, maybe it'd get pretty boring real fast, too.

So I guess I'm trying to say that I don't really agree with the whole concept of complete non-duality having anything to do with awareness level or an 'enlightened' mind.  I believe there are wars going on in other realms/dimensions/worlds who's inhabitants have knowledge and abilities that would make even us today believe that they are truly "gods" (much like the aliens of this world's past may have been viewed by our distant ancestors).   And just because there are higher vibrational realms out there doesn't mean that there isn't the same things going on in those places..... it's just way over our current comprehension to understand the types of issues they're fighting over and the kinds of weapons they employ.  Don't get me wrong... I'm far from a war supporter, but misunderstandings and disagreements always seem to have a way of spiraling out of control, no matter how enlightened beings may be.  That seems to be the trend in this version of the universe, in any case.  If you strip away all the double-talk and pseudoscience of 'ascension', it looks very similar to the Christian concept of 'heaven' (or maybe willful 'rapture') or the Zen concept of finding 'nirvana' or the 49 odd virgins that the Muslims believe is their paradise (wonder if that goes for Muslim women, as well?..then it sounds a bit like 'hell'), and the new, intellectual spin on it all is called 'ascension'... bah, it's all one-and-the-same concept to me, just the packaging that's different.  It's the beliefs that there is something more out there to strive towards to remind us that we're more magnificent than just a walking meat sack who's a slave to it's own biochemical-electric processes.  The paths and descriptions may vary, but the goals are similar.  Also, though, just as unique as all of our individual frequencies of souls are, there are just as many unique ways to achieve our goals.  No one person can claim, "I know the ultimate path to enlightenment..."  It may be true for that one soul, but only that one soul, even if his/her intentions are pure.  We really must all find our own paths, and no one experience is ever the same as another's.  I'm reminded of the phrase "one's man's heaven is the next man's hell"  For me, there's a lot of truth in that statement.  So, I guess my advice to you, Capitan, would be not to get too hung up on any one concept, such as non-duality.  Not every experience will fit neatly into one concept box... It may share a veranda or two with another concept sometimes.  Something I keep in mind is that everything (including us) is always in a constant state of flux.

Capitan wrote:

And especially on my part, it seems like I shut off my ability because it did not fit in with the world that others told me existed.

I'm sure you're not alone in that department.  I remember having many more abilities when I was younger, too, but once they're 'shut off', it doesn't seem that easy to just flip a switch to turn them on again.  I wish it were that easy or that I could offer some kind of advice!  I'm sure these abilities are still somewhere inside of you, but I think only you can find a way to coax them back to life.

Capitan wrote:

I have had three such experiences with hyper awareness that I can recall, all three coming from the use of the psychedelic substance "Ayahausca".

I'm curious to know more about your ayahuasca experiences.  I've always been fascinated by people explaining their experiences and journeys with ayahausca, but I haven't had an opportunity to take part in one of the ceremonies myself, nor have I ever tried DMT.  (not to mention that it scares me quite a bit... not having the ability to wake out of it if it gets too intense is really scary to me)

Capitan wrote:

Only I believe an active pineal is a much more powerful sensory organ than any other.  Having it open allows for a much greater level of consciousness as well.  When I would come down from "Ayahausca" the last stage of altered consciousness was what I call the hypnagogic state, or hyperawareness.  I cannot be sure if the hypnagogic state was caused by the intensity of the experiences I had, or if the hypnagogic state is directly linked to the function of the pineal, and could be considered to be one of the lower states of its active functioning.  At any rate any individual who can activate their pineal functionality would be in for one hell of a consciousness experience.

I agree... to have conscious control over one's pineal gland would be a major trip! lol! And you really do bring up a good point about it.  One of it's main functions is melatonin production, so I'm not sure if that may be a factor in those hypnagogic states you've experienced during your ayahausca twilights?  It's really interesting to me that the pineal gland is larger during childhood and shrinks (and sometimes calcifies!) during adulthood.  Maybe another reason children are able to experience and do metaphysical things more easily than adults?  Interesting stuff... then again, that's why thePTB want to demonize things like ayahausca, peyote, DMT, salvia (just to name a few).  God forbid we use a substance that can broaden our awareness because then we may learn a few things that they want exclusivity to.

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#29 2008-01-27 18:33:22

Pharos
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From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: 2007-11-16

Re: The Night I Possessed A Secret Society Bimbo

Pinky, I have to say that this is an amazing dream you've had! I can't really say much from an analytical side, but that being said, it was a very good read, and I would love to have a similar experience. Thanks a lot for writing this down on NR, it was well worth the read.


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#30 2008-01-28 10:02:23

Pinkrlyq
Voluntary Human
From: IL
Registered: 2006-05-25

Re: The Night I Possessed A Secret Society Bimbo

Hi Pharos smile  Thanks for wading through my long-winded attempts at explanations!  In retrospect, maybe I should have begun posting about these dreams years ago, but none of them were ever very relevant to this world until these most recent ones.  Thanks again for taking the time to read about them and for the compliments.  Oh yeah... And here's your gold star! http://flyangler.ca/forum/style_emoticons/default/goldstar.gif


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