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#16 2008-01-18 06:20:14

nexus
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From: Australia
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Re: PLUTO MOVING INTO CAPRICORN THE 26TH, EXPECT CHANGE

Skyalmian wrote:

Wait...what is the subconscious & soul? Are the 2 the same or are they separate? How many versions of ourselves are there?

The subconscious comprises those elements of self which we are not readily conscious of.   To some degree that includes the soul itself and deeper regions of the emotional, mental and etheric bodies.  The energy imprint of all our experiences ever, are recorded in the soul and it's subtle vehicles (emotional, mental, etheric bodies) but most of it is subconcious.  It is accessable of course but is not usually conscious given the external demands of life.  As you would know the contents of the subconscious are more easily accessed in the dream state while the external demands of the senses are stilled during sleep or meditation.

The higher- Self is also beyond the level of conscious awareness in the majority of people but is more often called super-conscious.  I guess the prefix "sub" is reserved for all elements of consciousness which are sub-ject to spirit.

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#17 2008-01-19 03:35:33

Magical_Mongoose
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Re: PLUTO MOVING INTO CAPRICORN THE 26TH, EXPECT CHANGE

I was thinking about this post the other day. The part that I wanted to stress is that awareness and forgiveness are greatly important as paradoxical twins of those on the cusp of 3D graduation. Forgiveness without awareness simply leads to the victim-complex and being walked over by the same beings (think of those in abusive relationships...abduction experiences? Montalk's written an article on this that explores this complex further). Awareness without forgiveness, however, amplifies shadow elements within your psyche, that in the least will limit the unfoldment of your true self, and at the other spectrum, open one up to further domination and manipulation by those who feed off the intended products of their actions.
So in order to break free of that loop, one must become aware and realize the nature of those around you...one can correct the situation not by devolving emotional energy towards an attacking entity, yet by maintaining your frequency and gracefully navigating the clouds they set before you...to arrive upon the heart of the matter. Discovering the truth or knowledge of their methods can lead to protection, yet it must be integrated and balanced with faith in Love.


"Don't eat any wooden nickels."

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#18 2008-01-19 16:56:45

Pharos
The Guiding Light
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: 2007-11-16

Re: PLUTO MOVING INTO CAPRICORN THE 26TH, EXPECT CHANGE

Antaeus wrote:

Pharos, did you get most of the notion that things seem to be speeding up, from Ian Xel Lungold?  I'm sure that I picked up some reading on it prior to listening to his video's, but I'm not sure.  He spoke of it a lot. 

I find that when I try to speak of the things I study, that most people have already reached a position where they don't want to go past.  A nice comfortable plateau in learning.  That doesn't discourage me, I just give little bits.  You give water slowly to a person who has been in the desert journeying without it.

As a matter of fact I haven't gotten that from Ian Xel Lungold, I've been discovering these types of things on my own lately. I find it amazing that we can discover the same truths through Self Discovery as have been presented already. I also see what you mean about letting someone sip slowly on water if they've been so long without it... very good analogy, I'll be thinking on that one when I try to bring Fringe subjects into peoples lives smile

LightningEye wrote:

As do I, but then I think, maybe they aren't meant to know. I don't know.

There is a hawaiian principle that says that everything is working out perfectly. Now I'm not sure if thats true on a microscale, but on a very large macro scale, it might be.

I completely empathize with what you've said here though. Intense impression to change my life, people, surroundings. That everything has somehow become... stale? But I thought it might just be me, seeing as I know no one else in "real life" that knows anything about fringe subjects. So why do you think this is? Are we picking up this sense of urgency instinctually, spiritually, or another way?

I can also empathize with this acceleration idea. I don't think many people will argue with that either. I think this acceleration puts pressure on highly aware people to simplify their life. At least, I'm feeling a lot of internal pressure to do so lately.

So what ensures success in this change? I mean, this is the same shift that the Cassiopaean's and the Plaidians talked about, right?


As always,  thank you for your gracious patience. I seem to have so many questions, and not as many answers.

I believe that the impression of change is more external, but it does feel like there's a pressure on me. I do feel, however, that this change is going to happen on it's own, both internally and externally, so all one has to do is keep oneself prepared for what may, and probably will, happen. "Ride the wave" so to speak. I've always had this strange excitement associated with change, but this one in particular feels like it's a big one. If one keeps oneself prepared for the shore, than the wave becomes one hell of a ride!

As for your many questions LightningEye, you seem to have the ability to discern them for yourself, but I for one have no problem trying to answer any questions you may have smile

If you didn't ask so many questions, then you wouldn't get any of the answers you seek. If I can do anything to help you find the answers, then I will be glad to help you out smile


"Don't reach into a direction you're not ready to look in yet."

"Inspire the Inspiration."

"If just one person loves you, it surpasses any number of people who don't."

"He who knows not himself, is poor in spirit, for he is his own poverty." - Jesus Christ

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#19 2008-01-20 22:35:23

LightningEye
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Registered: 2006-04-27

Re: PLUTO MOVING INTO CAPRICORN THE 26TH, EXPECT CHANGE

First of all, thank you for that Magical_Mongoose! I think that'll be floating around in my psyche for years to come. Forgiveness and awareness, awareness and forgiveness. Wonderful!

And onward:

Pharos wrote:

I believe that the impression of change is more external, but it does feel like there's a pressure on me. I do feel, however, that this change is going to happen on it's own, both internally and externally, so all one has to do is keep oneself prepared for what may, and probably will, happen. "Ride the wave" so to speak. I've always had this strange excitement associated with change, but this one in particular feels like it's a big one. If one keeps oneself prepared for the shore, than the wave becomes one hell of a ride!

As for your many questions LightningEye, you seem to have the ability to discern them for yourself, but I for one have no problem trying to answer any questions you may have smile

If you didn't ask so many questions, then you wouldn't get any of the answers you seek. If I can do anything to help you find the answers, then I will be glad to help you out smile

I really appreciate that, Pharos. You seem to be a giver. smile

I keep thinking about your last comment. "If one keeps oneself prepared for the shore, then the wave becomes one hell of a ride." By "the shore" do you mean everyday "normal" life? That if we keep ourself prepared for mundane things.... can you clarify? It really sticks in my mind.

Thanks again for lending a hand. My only question now is, were they referring to the shift of 2012? And should we even be calling it a shift anymore? Perhaps "middle of the wave" is more accurate.

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#20 2008-01-22 03:39:18

Pharos
The Guiding Light
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: 2007-11-16

Re: PLUTO MOVING INTO CAPRICORN THE 26TH, EXPECT CHANGE

LightningEye wrote:

I keep thinking about your last comment. "If one keeps oneself prepared for the shore, then the wave becomes one hell of a ride." By "the shore" do you mean everyday "normal" life? That if we keep ourself prepared for mundane things.... can you clarify? It really sticks in my mind.

Thanks again for lending a hand. My only question now is, were they referring to the shift of 2012? And should we even be calling it a shift anymore? Perhaps "middle of the wave" is more accurate.

I think when I wrote the analogy of "riding the wave" to the shore, I meant that the wave is change, and the shore is a "new shore", that would be the result of the journey on the wave.

Don't forget though, things are always changing... there's always waves crashing up against the shore... but there are periods of time where there's little change, and every once in awhile, you get one hell of a tsunami crashing up wink

As for 2012, I think it's going to be the climax of all this change, when the wave reaches it's highest point before crashing onto the shore... this crash would seemingly be the proceeding years following 2012...

I'm quite interested to see what's going to happen, and almost can't wait to get there... but we've got another four years of preparing to do!


"Don't reach into a direction you're not ready to look in yet."

"Inspire the Inspiration."

"If just one person loves you, it surpasses any number of people who don't."

"He who knows not himself, is poor in spirit, for he is his own poverty." - Jesus Christ

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#21 2008-01-31 00:43:57

LightningEye
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From: Consciousness
Registered: 2006-04-27

Re: PLUTO MOVING INTO CAPRICORN THE 26TH, EXPECT CHANGE

1786 days, 10 hours, 27 minutes, 0 seconds.

I'm precisioniphillic.

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#22 2008-02-03 06:50:37

kid mongo
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Re: PLUTO MOVING INTO CAPRICORN THE 26TH, EXPECT CHANGE

The only thing that's going to happen in 2012 is that things will even be MORE jacked-up than they are right now. Oh, and there will also be some disappointed lightweenies moping around.


There will be two Ages. The first: The Age of Power. The next: The Age of Equality.

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#23 2008-02-03 18:26:14

Pharos
The Guiding Light
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: 2007-11-16

Re: PLUTO MOVING INTO CAPRICORN THE 26TH, EXPECT CHANGE

I'll concede it's possible that all the prophetical hype around 2012 may just be hype, but I believe that because so many people are getting into this hype, they may end up manifesting the very hype that may not have happened in the first place.

Also, I believe that the events of 2012 will have a personal level of influence as well. I, for one, know that in 2012 something will happen to affect a major change in my life, whether on a personal or large scale. It's all about how I choose to perceive the events that unfold.


"Don't reach into a direction you're not ready to look in yet."

"Inspire the Inspiration."

"If just one person loves you, it surpasses any number of people who don't."

"He who knows not himself, is poor in spirit, for he is his own poverty." - Jesus Christ

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