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#1 2007-12-15 15:30:01

alexsweirdlife
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Registered: 2007-12-12

how can i be sure that i am not a portal or an agent?

i believe i'm surrounded by agents in everyday life, possibly within my family (i'm deliberating on this one though), but just beccause i see whats going on (kindof, lol) doesnt mean my presence isnt being used to further the agenda? strange thought, wondering what the world (or beyond) thinks, i only wonder because on an average day i connect with hundreds of people in various ways, even if thats just passing by in cars or at the store, or talking on the internet, people looking at my myspace, people reading my posts, how do i know that i am not being used?

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#2 2007-12-15 15:42:18

Spi
arcane adventurer
Registered: 2007-10-18

Re: how can i be sure that i am not a portal or an agent?

Identifying Yourself: Have you ever hurt anyone with no apparent emotions? Do you have all your chakras (Root-Crown)? What do you like to create?
Some spirited entities are able to recognize their egoistic mind-body view (Which ego is hosted in the Navel chakra), do you have first-person view?


Here's a method I identify others as OPs (They get frequent head tunings): When myspace became popular, pretty much over 80% of my teen peers have one. It's like it was tuned into their head to have a myspace. Now everyone is going for facebook, and how I noticed was that one of the OPs I have on AIM invited me to have a facebook. But learn that it is whether you want one or not. That is what being a spirited entity is about. You have that will.

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#3 2007-12-15 16:29:07

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Re: how can i be sure that i am not a portal or an agent?

OP, oppresive person, is a scientology term. Are you a scientologist?

 

#4 2007-12-15 16:43:46

Nyarlathotep
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Re: how can i be sure that i am not a portal or an agent?

Alex, you have to focus on yourself and you own developement as a first priority. The more you educate yourself for yourself and the more you become aligned with your true core self the more all those other irrantional worries and things will just fall away and dissolve. And, it is funny how just being aware in itself will bring the right people and situations into your life at just the right moment. So, dont give up or get too anxious about the people around you being "agents". It is great to be aware of it though. Im aware of it too but the more you turn your attention away from them and more toward your own SELF, and to your OWN personal development the better.

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#5 2007-12-15 16:57:01

covertmetaphor
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Re: how can i be sure that i am not a portal or an agent?

I distrust those people without a sense of humor. There seems to be an increasing number of people that neither laugh or smile. It's very unsettling. I don't mean a sadistic way of smiling or laughing either. The most selfless people I have met, who really care about others, always sincerely smile and laugh in my experience. I don't know about OPs or agents. Perhaps people are just really unhappy and armored to the extreme. sad

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#6 2007-12-15 17:14:46

Nyarlathotep
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Re: how can i be sure that i am not a portal or an agent?

Yes, it is funny that the most effective form of banishing is laughter. Ive heard a few stories of people doing a magickal operation and  when a "demon" or something starts to mess with them and they simply start laughing at them. Not like a fake laugh or fake smile, but true geniune laughter. All the negative energy dissolves really fast. I like that story Robert Anton Wilson illustrated about getting these little astral critters away from his magickal circle. You know what he did? He imagined a plate of cocktail shrimp, his favorite appetizer, and fed them! At first he was terrified like "oh shit, what do I do about this...." Then it hit him what to do. HAHA, worked like a charm.

 

#7 2007-12-15 17:35:41

fromthatshow
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Re: how can i be sure that i am not a portal or an agent?

I think that a portal would not spend the time pondering whether or not they were a portal.  The fact that you asked the question should help you to realize that you are more than that. 
I also think the biggest factor in determining a portal or agent is sincerity.  It's fairly easy to determine whether someone is doing something with sincerity or not.

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#8 2007-12-15 18:25:41

covertmetaphor
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Re: how can i be sure that i am not a portal or an agent?

Nyarlathotep wrote:

Yes, it is funny that the most effective form of banishing is laughter. Ive heard a few stories of people doing a magickal operation and  when a "demon" or something starts to mess with them and they simply start laughing at them. Not like a fake laugh or fake smile, but true geniune laughter. All the negative energy dissolves really fast. I like that story Robert Anton Wilson illustrated about getting these little astral critters away from his magickal circle. You know what he did? He imagined a plate of cocktail shrimp, his favorite appetizer, and fed them! At first he was terrified like "oh shit, what do I do about this...." Then it hit him what to do. HAHA, worked like a charm.

Wonderful story. RAW was one of the great Cosmic Comics.

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#9 2007-12-15 19:38:09

Auscastian
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Registered: 2007-04-10

Re: how can i be sure that i am not a portal or an agent?

Everyone I think may be an Organic Portal or an Agent sometime within their lifetime(s). Awareness and knowledge there of, should allow you to change this if this is the desired goal.

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#10 2007-12-15 20:24:47

Spi
arcane adventurer
Registered: 2007-10-18

Re: how can i be sure that i am not a portal or an agent?

fromthatshow wrote:

I think that a portal would not spend the time pondering whether or not they were a portal.

That is incorrect from my perspective. I have a manikin buddy that found out that he's an Organic Portal. He's been pondering day after day about it and having frequent glitches.

How do I know he is organic portal?

1.) He does not wonder about ego.
2.) He lacks creativity, instead, he mimics
3.) He usually gets bored a lot
4.) He has a facebook
5.) He asks lots of questions
6.) He likes to stress other people by dumb mind games
7.) He has a horrible sense of humor (There's nothing wrong with that though!)

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#11 2007-12-15 20:42:58

montalk
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Re: how can i be sure that i am not a portal or an agent?

Okay, to do this correctly you have to figure out the difference between:

1) someone who truly lacks higher chakras (crown, heart, third eye) -- but might have these emulated through a mirroring of other people's energies and behaviors

2) someone who has real higher chakras, though ones that are dormant, under-developed, cutoff, ignored --  but might have occasional flashes of activity coming through from those chakras

...between:

1) someone lacking a spiritual core who is just a humanimal with an ego in the driver's seat

2) someone who is spiritual at the core, but that core is gagged and bound in the back seat while ego drives

...between:

1) someone who is not individually souled

2) someone who is individually souled but asleep and naive, stupid, or ignorant

...between:

1) someone whose soul maturity is embryonic in that they haven't even been birthed as a reincarnating individual yet

2) someone whose soul maturity is infantile in that they are new to the reincarnative cycle as a perpetual core of consciousness

...between:

1) someone who harms and manipulates others because their sole purpose of existence is to feed off the energy and be used as a tool

2) someone who harms and manipulates others because their capacity for empathy has been suppressed through trauma and abuse, they are starving for attention because they lack self-esteem, and they have given into impulses from internal and external negative forces

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If you are worried that you are an organic portal, what part of you is doing the worrying? If you were all ego and no soul, would you really be undermining your precious self-image with this kind of doubt? And furthermore, if you are aware of this possibility, then regardless of what the case may be you now have the freewill to become what you prefer to be.

And if one is merely referring to people who are invested in the matrix, in the mainstream, non-creative, imitative, sarcastic, materialistic way of living, then "pod person" would be more appropriate since that is descriptive of behavior and lifestyle without saying anything about whether the person is individually souled or not.

Even if you are fully individually souled, during moments of absent-mindedness or foolishness, or moments of emotional aggravation, you too can be used temporarily as a tool. But there is a difference between people who are permanent tools because no one's home, and people who are occasional tools when they lose their mindfulness during a critical moment.

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#12 2007-12-16 04:16:57

alexsweirdlife
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Re: how can i be sure that i am not a portal or an agent?

wow, i didnt expect to get so many responses.  thanks they were ALL very helpful, too bad i cant respond to them individually, itd be easier to discuss and get a feel for what ur saying, thanks anyway i like the idea of laughing to break any negativity i'm gonna try it.

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#13 2007-12-16 04:30:32

alexsweirdlife
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Re: how can i be sure that i am not a portal or an agent?

1) someone who truly lacks higher chakras (crown, heart, third eye) -- but might have these emulated through a If you are worried that you are an organic portal, what part of you is doing the worrying? If you were all ego and no soul, would you really be undermining your precious self-image with this kind of doubt? And furthermore, if you are aware of this possibility, then regardless of what the case may be you now have the freewill to become what you prefer to be.

what if there is no free will, what if that died?  sad thought but i think the truth of reality might hurt us all, what if your impulse and instinct is merely a trap for you to fall for? i noticed that peoples first instincts toward me are MOSTLY negative im a confused kid, dont really know whats going on, whenever i think i do, something pops up and is like, "you dont know shit", its tough, and then i go out in the world and most people know exactly whats going on in their realities, which is nothing abnormal, and then here comes me, all lost and confused like i believe we all should be... considering infinity,  and people dont know how to react, so i wonder if peoples first instincts towards me are not their own, but rather a default reaction to something they dont understand.. this might be over everyones head i dont know if im even describing what ive been feeling lately but, i dunno...its probly as confusing as time travel, infinity, nothing, everything, love...life, etc

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#14 2007-12-16 06:38:27

nexus
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Re: how can i be sure that i am not a portal or an agent?

Hi Alexwierdlife,

You might think that worldly people know "exactly what's going on in their reality" because their reality is so mundane.  But no matter how hard they try to box reality into familiar, secure parameters they also are filled with interior doubts, fears and insecurities.  No matter what most people attain of worldly value, something is missing and they know it.   So don't be so sure that the self assurance of others is solid or superior to you in any way.  It is often wafer thin.  If you discover your own center you may even see the 'self assurance' of others breakdown in amusing ways.  It leaks through and can't be easily hidden from a keen eye.  God knows our own breaks down often enough.  Our job is to heal those fractures from within our spiritual center rather than cover everything up with materialistic bandaids as most people do.  There's always a new layer of ego to see through and the universe knows how to present it to our conscious awareness.  A sense of humour will help to navigate a way through ourselves and others.

There are also times when we feel off balance or too shocked by our own wounds to believe we could ever succeed spiritually.  But whatever your spiritual stature is now, keep putting one foot in front of the other and keep on keeping on.  Assume you have a higher self.  I found a good approach is talking to your higher self and being willing to see what your HS would show you in yourself and in signs and symols around you.  Maybe you already have your own way to the HS.  Don't give up till you see the whites of His eyes.  And don't shoot.

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#15 2008-02-20 08:15:02

S.E.E.D.
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Re: how can i be sure that i am not a portal or an agent?

According to the above discription of humorless, uncreative, heartless/soulless individuals my mother was a portal, i was married to one (whose mother was also one), and now i'm wondering about my daughter who's 6.
I have a son by a previous relationship and his mother i also accused of being an alien many times, but this was almost 20 years ago.
I'm wondering if i should just cut my losses and focus on the human wife and child i have now in my new life.

Anyone ideas about child portals?

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