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#1 2007-06-27 13:50:34

Seeking the Truth
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small children and nightmares

When my son was only two or three weeks old, he started having nightmares. What horrible memories could a 2 week old have that would give him night terrors? Well, besides the fact that his stupid mommy let the doctors circumcise him...Maybe that was it in the beginning.

But here we are 5 years later and I suspect different things now. I'm beginning to wonder if his earliest nightmares weren't past life memories. Anything's possible, I guess.

He has had many bad dreams in his little lifetime. Bizarre, some of them. But lately, I'm getting a little worried about a recurring dream he's been having. They started several months ago, and last night before he fell asleep he said that the reason he doesn't get much rest is because of the same dream he keeps having.

The dream is of massive flooding. Every time.  He has had this dream too many times to count, and I figure he hasn't even told me of every one of them. Last night I asked him if the flooding was just here at our house, or what.  He said, 'No, the flooding is everywhere.'

Okay, well, that just scares me a little.  He's never been in a flood and never really seen them, except for maybe a couple that have been on one of the learning shows (like dinos and animal shows, and such). And honestly, his imagination is like mine; not very active or vivid... And it's not like we talk about natural disasters around here.

I live in an area of the US that I have seen under water in some maps of the 'future' earth conditions.  Ya know, the ones that show the lay of the land if some catastrophic event were to happen.  From the Great Lakes down the middle of the country to the bottom of the states, there is a huge river, like 2 states wide, starting up by Canada and extending to the Gulf.  We are in an area that used to be flooded by the sea many moons ago. You can find shark teeth and shells in our riverbeds here.  This was definetely under water at some point in the earth's history.  And of course, the whole earth has been flooded in the past, and who's to say it won't happen again?

So, is he dreaming of a future or is he dreaming of a past life where he was in a flood?  I don't know...The way the shit is hitting the fan, he could be forseeing the future.

I'm not sure, but I know I don't like this one bit.  I'm really trying to stay in center with this. No real paranoia on my part, but it sure is making me think...I don't want to stay in this particular area anyways, but I don't have anywhere else to go, until I find the person of my dreams and can move far away from here, that is. smile

So last night, to lighten things up a little, I told him that maybe we should buy a boat....


BTW, this small one knows nothing of what I have been studying for the past couple years, as in all this esoteric metaphysical stuff. So it's not like I'm just rubbing off on him.

I don't expect much of a response. I just needed to tell someone about that, and hopefully find someone else with the same experiences right now, or whatever...

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#2 2007-06-27 14:17:43

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Re: small children and nightmares

It could be lots of things.  Try more attempts at bringing up the subject, but do so while remaining mellow and neutral, not worried or alarmed which might make him nervous and cause resistence.  See if you can gently nudge him to divulge more details or keep you posted on any new dreams of that nature which he may be having. 

It could be a past life memory thing, like you noted, as floods have happened around the world and have killed people.  Or it could be a premonition of sorts - maybe he incarnated here knowing what the deal was going to be.  The pole flip/massive flooding thing has been prophesized by MANY sources.  The latest I read was Mary Summer Rain, in her book, "Phoenix Rixing."  It's all about the events to come (well, they're already happening now, as this book was originally compiled in 1984.)   No-Eyes, the blind psychic Chippewa shaman woman that Mary was training under, took her on out of body excursions to see many things...including the pole flip.  No-Eyes brought Mary to the vantage point of being out in space, looking at the earth below, and that's when it happened.  She watched the water sloshing all over the planet, first sloshing this way, then sloshing back that way.  It must have been terrifying to watch.  To see the whole planet going through that....wow.   What's worse is that when you read the Mary Summer Rain books you can tell No-Eyes is the real deal, and her checklist of prophesies for what's going to go down have mostly all happened by this point.  This is one of the last remaining things on the list.  One of the other remaining items has to do with the sky turning green.  It's a really puzzling bit.....initially doesn't make sense.  But No-Eyes said, when you see the sky take on a green hue, then the Phoenix Days are here.  I shrugged when I read that, looking up at the bright blue sky overhead as I read, wink  but then realized........

chemtrails.

Chemtrails do all sorts of craziness to the sky, including changing the color hue and of course the cloud structure and weather patterns.  I don't know if it constitutes "turning green" per se, but we DEFINITELY have a major chemtrail/sky issue going on nowadays, there's no doubt.  So that's one possibility anyway for what that prophesy means.  (All the other prophesies are very straightforward btw...it's not a bunch of cryptic and open-ended mumbo jumbo that could be interpretted ten different ways like with other prophesies, or like, a bunch of vague nonsense that anybody could come up with like, "they'll be strife in the middle east!"  "famine in africa!"  "lots of people in china!" etc.  big_smile )

Dolores Cannon also gets into the pole flip and flooding in her "Conversations with Nostradamus" books.  Long story there, but basically the visions entailed the same thing, and the world's population going from about 6 billion down to about 125 million when it's all said and done.

Synchronistcally I've had pole flips on the brain again this past week, so it was interesting to read your post and be reminded again.

Anyway, it does seem odd that a 2-3 week old would have been having nightmares like that.  I'm not so sure circumcision would cause that, as traumatizing as it is.  My brother was circumcized but he didn't experience night terrors as a baby.  That's just one baby example, and one example doesn't make it true for everybody across the board, so maybe it does happen with other babies.   At this point your best bet is probably just try to nudge more information out of him, get him to reveal more to you about not only that particular dream but any others he may have.  Make sure he knows that he can always talk to you about this stuff and that it's safe to do so (because you won't get scared and alarm him, or of course be skeptical.)    Keep us posted if anything new develops...

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#3 2007-06-27 14:39:35

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Re: small children and nightmares

Aye, if you don't want too it's fine, but gently nudging info like what else he might see in the dream, types of buildings, any cars , planes?
Anything that looks  futuristic or unfamilar to him, even familiar.
Anything that looks ancient or old-fashioned.
Were is he watching the flooding from?
State of the sky?

This is a very unusual, for a 5 year old experiencing a repeating dream.( I believe dream  interpreters say repeaters mean nothing, at least in some of the books I have read. I have never  taken this as fact. Always felt like a wrong interpretation to me.)
Also a 3 week to few month baby showing night-terrors, I never heard of this before, perhaps it is more common that I am aware of.
Poor critter.

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#4 2007-06-27 15:08:46

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Re: small children and nightmares

Try a couple of drops of Rosemary essential oil on his pillow at night if they continue and cause him distress.


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#5 2007-06-27 15:20:01

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Re: small children and nightmares

Barefoot Doc wrote:

Try a couple of drops of Rosemary essential oil on his pillow at night if they continue and cause him distress.

That's so funny!!  big_smile  I saw your name for this thread and joked to myself, "Let's see if Barefoot Doc has an herbal remedy for it."  And here you are, talking about rosemary essential oil!  That's awesome!  big_smile


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#6 2007-06-27 16:53:48

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Re: small children and nightmares

Hi guys. Thanks for the responses so far.  I feel like I'm doing okay with keeping him open to talking to me. I always hate it when I hear of parents brushing off comments that their child says. I listen carefully to everything he says, and he's said some pretty weird stuff. Not stuff a small one talks about, for sure.  I think he feels that he can talk to me about anything.  I haven't probed him for specifics on the flood dream yet. I might approach that today. He did tell me this morning that he didn't have that dream last night. In fact, he says he didn't have any, except one where he had his own horse and we lived on a farm.  I wish that one would come true! 

But yeah, when he was just a couple weeks old and having night terrors, it just about killed me. There was nothing I could do. He wouldn't wake up and he was not comforted by me holding, rocking, and soothing him. That's why I call them terrors, rather than nightmares. Even now, I cannot wake or calm him while he's having one.  He thrashes and kicks and grunts and groans. Sometimes, he cries.  I feel so sorry for him. He may end up doing what I did as a child; just repressing the dreams and purposely not remember them. 

I've read about the pole shift and a couple prophesies that have shown the huge 'river'. But like I said, my boy has never paid attention to what I'm researching. I really do think that he's remembering past lives, accessing the akashic, or having premonitions. He's so innocent. He's not even been to school (except when we tried preschool, which didn't work for us) which is where most children get exposed to 'reality'.  And we don't listen to or watch the news, nor do we buy the newspaper.

The strangest dream so far was about a year ago. He had just woken up and came into the office.  I was on the computer. We did our normal wake-up routine (hugs, cuddling, talking about how he slept) and he sat down on the floor. I asked him if he had good dreams, and he said he had strange dreams. He said that he dreamt about bottles, really big bottles. I'm sitting there going, okaaayyy..... And so I nudged him on and he told me there were three of them. One had rocks (or something similar) in a bottle of liquid.  The second one had two different liquids and one floated (I interpret this as water and oil or something similar that separates). The third bottle contained one of our friends.  He said that our friend was inside the bottle with liquid!!  Okay, now inside of me I'm freaking out a little. On the outside, I kept calm and collected, thankfully. I have no idea what that dream meant. Well, I do have an inkling, but the thought is so strange and hard to accept, that I've pretty much buried it.

Well, this friend is someone I've known for several years. We've worked together but he is friends more with my husband than with me. We're just not particulary close.  He is actually somewhat awake, but he is not a truth seeker. I feel that we have very different missions.  He's not totally STS, but he is a little, and he has no use for emotions (whilst I have been an emotional basket-case for two years, ever since I started waking up).

Anyways, I say that to give you an impression of the relationship. My boy likes him and hasn't had a bad experience with him.  Well, around the time of the bottle dream, he was afflicted with other bad dreams with monsters in them. I had told him several different ways of dealing with monsters and bad guys in his dreams. One of the ways was to use his "taser" to zap the bad guy away, and another one was to call out "SMALL, SMALL, SMALL!!" to the monster until it got very tiny and just blew away.  So he was working on this when one morning he told me about a dream he had the night before. He said that he dreamt about monsters that were wearing masks.  He said there was one monster that he couldn't zap. When I asked him why, he said that he couldn't do that to our friend.  Apparently, one of the monsters took off his mask and it was the 'friend' mentioned above. My son said that he couldn't zap him.  Of course not!  In 'real' life, this person was a friend of the family. He wouldn't want to hurt one of our friends.  So he was very upset.  That really got me thinking about this person and who he really is.

Well, sorry about that; I didn't realize I'd typed so much. Just thought I'd share some other weird happenings.  Thanks for listening to my rant and giving feedback. It's much appreciated. smile

Oh, and thanks Barefoot Doc! I have some rosemary EO in my box of goodies. I will try that tonight, for sure!

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#7 2007-06-27 19:18:17

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Re: small children and nightmares

I had the Boy circumcised, regrettably (=major understatement!) and ya, he did have night terrors like you describe (couldn’t wake up, hollering, thrashing, crying, etc.) even at that age.  But then again, so did my daughter.  If memory serves, that type of thing occurred off and on until they reached school age.  This was long, long, LONG before I ever gave any serious thought to the fringe side of life, though, so I don’t remember any details.  They’re both still vivid dreamers to this day but they don’t seem to have those terrors like they used to.  I plan to go and buy them each a dream journal soon.

I’ll never forget this one night we’d been out late somewhere with Mum who was in town visiting (my mother-in-law; not to be confused with Mom wink).  The Boy was in his preschool years at the time.  Anyway, he’d fallen asleep on the way home so I carried him up into the house.  When we got inside I set him down in the living room to take off his jacket and he seemed awake until Mum started talking to him.  He looked over at her, chin down, with this evil glare in his bloodshot eyes and then he growled at her, reeeaal low and deep.  Talk about freaky!  Seriously, it was scary.  It wasn’t long after that when she bought him Mountains, Meadows and Moonbeams by (guess who) Mary Summer Rain.  So that’s my suggestion to you; pick up a copy of that book.  I haven’t read it in ages, mind you.  I don’t even know where ours is, I packed it away so long ago.  Chick (the Girl) asked me about it a couple weeks ago so I’m going to see if I can dig it up for her this weekend.

BTW, I love your “SMALL, SMALL, SMALL!!” technique.  And as for whether the dreams are past life memories or premonitions, I haven’t a clue.  (I’m still pondering the whole reincarnation thing myself smile).  But just in case, investing in a boat might not be such a bad idea after all…they’re tons of fun anyway.  No need to go and build an ark or anything…yet wink

I’d be interested to hear what your little man has to say about other things he sees in the dreams, too, like calpamu said, so do keep us posted.

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#8 2007-06-28 10:27:53

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They certainly have a bearing or meaning or can foretell future events.
Dreamt once my father, brother and sister were all caught for drink driving.
It was nearly 20 years ago, when we all would drive home from the bar, a mile away , in an almost empty country road.
Bad I know, I did it myself 5 or 6 times but  always felt bad about it but the familiy insisted I drive.(Yes, quite dis-functional and weak of me)
Due to the dream I stopped and within a week or so all three were caught for DUI.

 

#9 2007-06-28 15:55:01

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Re: small children and nightmares

lyra wrote:

Barefoot Doc wrote:

Try a couple of drops of Rosemary essential oil on his pillow at night if they continue and cause him distress.

That's so funny!!  big_smile  I saw your name for this thread and joked to myself, "Let's see if Barefoot Doc has an herbal remedy for it."  And here you are, talking about rosemary essential oil!  That's awesome!  big_smile

Darn it i hate being so predictable smile

Good stuff for nightmares though, the spooks don't seem to like it.

Andrew


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#10 2007-07-06 15:05:53

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Re: small children and nightmares

Well, it seems that making this original thread has in some way, somehow, stopped my son's flood nightmares.  For a while at least...

Strange, but just a couple nights ago I had a dream that I actually remembered.  I was just about to wake up, so I must have been in deep theta at the time.  If I hadn't been suddenly woken up, I don't know how far it would have gone.

Unfortunately, it wasn't a pleasant dream. It reminded me off my boy's dream.  All that I remember is being in my current house during a raging storm.  There was water all around the house, reaching up to the bottom of the window.  I remember closing all the windows because it was raining in them and the water was rising.  Then my son woke me up and ended the dream.

I really don't know what to think of these catastrophic dreams. I hope they mean nothing....

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#11 2007-07-06 15:25:01

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Re: small children and nightmares

Seeking the Truth wrote:

Well, it seems that making this original thread has in some way, somehow, stopped my son's flood nightmares.  For a while at least...

Strange, but just a couple nights ago I had a dream that I actually remembered.  I was just about to wake up, so I must have been in deep theta at the time.  If I hadn't been suddenly woken up, I don't know how far it would have gone.

Unfortunately, it wasn't a pleasant dream. It reminded me off my boy's dream.  All that I remember is being in my current house during a raging storm.  There was water all around the house, reaching up to the bottom of the window.  I remember closing all the windows because it was raining in them and the water was rising.  Then my son woke me up and ended the dream.

I really don't know what to think of these catastrophic dreams. I hope they mean nothing....

Just out of interest the UK has just suffered some of the worst floods ever, around 100,000 homes have had to be evacuated.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6276150.stm

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#12 2007-07-09 13:15:05

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Re: small children and nightmares

I didn't know about the flooding in the UK.  At the same time, though, Texas is flooding, as well as Oklahoma I think.  Fun stuff there, huh?

Well, my boy just told me yesterday that he hasn't been dreaming at all.  I told him that he usually dreams, but just doesn't remember them. But he swears up and down that he hasn't been having any dreams.  So I don't know.

But last night as I was thinking about it, I had a memory flood up.  One that I totally blocked out for a while.  When my boy was just 3 or 4, he woke up one morning from a nightmare.  He came out of his room and stood at the doorway to the bathroom.  He looked scared and upset.  When I asked him what was wrong, he burst out into tears and said, "Mommy, I don't want to die."  So I'm kinda freaking, and ask him why he said that.  He didn't answer. All he said was that he didn't want everyone to die.  When I questioned him about that, he told me that he had a dream where not only did he die, but everyone else did, as far as he could see.  He was so upset.  All I could do was hold him and try to calm him. I told him that dreams don't always come true, etc. etc. He was not comforted.  He just kept saying how he didn't want all of us to die.  And this is two full years before the flood dreams, though I don't know exactly how long he's been having those specific ones.

Now this was not just a dream where mom or dad dies and he's upset.  He was clearly telling me that in his dream, everyone died.

Like I said before, I don't know what his dreams mean, but I hope they're just bad figments of his dream-time world.

Thanks again, everyone, for your replies.

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#13 2007-07-23 02:02:08

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Re: small children and nightmares

Wow,  Seeking, your thread is amazing and inspired me to actually register and join in, as opposed to just lurking and reading.  I, too had a dream, more like yours than your son's, with water sloshing in through our sliding glass doors, and rising to the windows and sloshing in through them.  I had the dream, and it felt so much like my precog dreams about hurricanes, tsunamis, etc., that I woke up and went whoaaa.  Then I read your post about your son's dream.  And the synchronicity astounded me.  And then, the dream happened several more times and was so on the mark with yours that I decided I would let you know about it.  Our area has had mass flooding several times in '93 and 95.  Our house didn't flood, although I have a cool pix of a guy canoeing on our sidewalk.  And generally if it's really a precog dream, (which it just felt like, sorry about the amibiguity) my precog dreams seem to have a 3 month lead on the dream becoming real.

Maybe Barefoot Doc, as you pointed out, it's just tuning into the UK floods or the Texas, Oklahoma, etc.  I hope all who have experienced or will experience natural disasters can make lemons out of lemonade.  We are rebuilding from a tornado that hit our house from Wilma.  I am so grateful that the roof flew off and in spite of losing everything, we have our lives, each other, an opportunity for all new stuff, and best of all--!Our electrical wiring which was cloth covered and aluminum thread like wiring is replaced.  The old wiring was a fire hazard and showed signs of some little burn marks when we pulled down the walls. 

There is a great book out there, Seeking, several, in fact, that are children's meditations.  I read it to my middle daughter when she was little and had nightmares frequently.  Drats, I can't remember the name, except that the flavor of the meditations were native american, in that the garden had a tree, like a Grandmother Willow tree.  They were beautiful little blurbs and really helped my daughter.  As soon as I can find it, I'll let you know what the name of the books are.

I'm glad your son's nightmares have quieted down and it's such a shame that he has them.  I had a lot of terrible nightmares when I was your son's age.  Somewhere along the way (about age 6), I figured out about choice in my nightmares, and I could choose to change them, like (and this is really weird that I can remember this so vividly!) being a director of a film saying cut, I don't like this dream, change it to this kind of dream!wink  I'm trying it with my youngest who's 7 and having some challenging dreams. 

Thanks so much for posting and everybody's comments.  It really has helped me to not feel so freaked out by the experiences.  T.

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#14 2007-07-23 15:27:56

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Re: small children and nightmares

I found the books for you Seeking the Truth.  The author's name is Maureen Garth, and the books are MOONBEAM and Starbright.  You might want to read the reviews on Amazon.  Reading the books to my then little one helped both of us with our nightmares. And it was such a fun bedtime ritual.  t.

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#15 2007-07-24 19:18:40

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Re: small children and nightmares

Hi there, ideascubed! I like your name.  Thanks for the response to the thread and for the names of the books.  I will look for them.

Just the other day, the fam was talking about dreams, and I was explaining lucid dreaming to my little one. He pipes up and tells me that he does that (lucid dream)!  I was blown away. I mean, I have been trying to explain to him that he has control over his dreams and once he realizes he's dreaming, he can take over.  Well, apparently he's been experimenting!  YAY!  I'm really excited. I know that kids can lucid dream quite easily unless they've been indocrinated with social stigma against anything "weird".  So I'm really trying to be open and supportive with this.  But every morning since the nightmares, he tells me he didn't dream that night.  I just think he doesn't remember them, but who knows?

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Hey lilmomma!!  I bought the book you were talking about.  After Lyra mentioned "Phoenix Rising" and you talked about the moonbeam book, I went to Amazon and ordered both of them.  Thanks so much for the suggestions, both to you and Lyra.  I don't know when I'll start reading them, though, since I've gone off the deep end and am reading all sorts of whacked out stuff. My mind is about to explode!  I'm reading Rudolf Steiner right now. Whew! Talk about some heavy stuff....

Oh, and get this!  I went 3 hours away last week to see a healer.  On the way there, I saw no less than FIVE boats for sale.  No shit!  5 boats on the way to see someone. All for sale. One of them was a small fishing boat, but the rest were bigger ones with motors.  What's up with this!???  Am I being given hints? Chances?  Well, I don't know about chance. I don't have the $ to buy a boat! Ah well.  At least I know the shit's going to hit the fan. I may be too friggin broke to do anything about it, but I can say that I saw it coming!

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