Topic: Internet Crack Down?

Ok I have a question that may seem silly but I've got to ask.  If the higher negative forces of this matrix that we currently occupy are trying their hardest to surpress truth, knowledge, true wisdom about the environment that exists around us, why is it such things like this message board are able to run so smoothly?  Could it possibly be because, such ideas like the ones presented in this forum would make people look "crazy" which apparently other people could never come to terms with such material.  Would the reason they allow such things to run is basically another way to keep the population diversified?  But I mean, if were learning real truth here, why would they allow that in the first place?  Just a thought I had, hope this doesnt endanger the forum for all our sake, if so please remove.

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Not even close to enough members here for the intel agencies or matrix enforcers to be concerned about.

And yes, chances are many asleep people stumble on this forum, take a quick look, and think "ok these people are space cadets"- and most of us here are content with letting them continue to think that, no love lost.

This forum has been open for over 3 years, all you need to do is take a look back over things that have been discussed, because they get way deeper and weirder than alot of the topics we have seen lately. Nothing to be paranoid about, if 'they' were gonna do something, they would have by now. And if they did, it would only be confirmation of the importance of the subjects discussed herein..... wink   J

Happy to have been a part

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Dont worry, there will be a crack down soon enough. It is important to save important audio/movies/data that you personally feel important and needed to your hard drive NOW.
Go buy a cheap external HD if you dont have much space..but dont wait. they have already tried to sneak legislation through but thanks to the work of many concerned and alert keyboardist we maintained "net neutrality" for a time. They never stop trying though. It is the nature of the internet that is impossible to control unless they let that infrastructure decay in additon to passing new laws. they REALLY want internet 2, or somthing like it. a centralized international internet governing body that will require registration and therefore aporoval to all who would like to have a domain.. start downloading..

Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important.

—C.S. Lewis

4 (edited by Auscastian 2007-04-14 13:22:12)

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Ya I was really thinking about that.  This may have nothing to do with it, but after windows released Vista, it was pretty aparent they're slowing gaining more and more control, and keeping taps on its users.  That was apparent when things all of a sudden need to be verified when you dowload security content.  Good Idea though Gensix.

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Auscastian wrote:

If the higher negative forces of this matrix that we currently occupy are trying their hardest to surpress truth, knowledge, true wisdom about the environment that exists around us, why is it such things like this message board are able to run so smoothly?

Noble Realms has been under attack since the day it began. If a sufficient number of positive people did not establish and defend the keynote vibration of this forum, and if I were less prescient and disciplined in my moderation, this forum would have ceased to exist long ago. It was after countering them move by move, pulling the weeds, and gradually choking off their attack avenues that this forum became the smoothly running place you see today. Most of this took place behind the scenes.

Negative forces cannot just forcefully shut down something like this. How would they? If they destroyed the server, there are backups. If they had the hosting company shut it down, it would be instantly moved to a different host. Nothing illegal is involved, so law enforcement and homeland security can't do anything while the legal system still exists. But if they shut it down anyway, that would only provide confirmation that truth seekers are on the right track.

Negative forces work on a far more sophisticated, stealthy, cunning level. When they're serious, they attack in such a way that the threat is eliminated or hijacked without anyone suspecting it. They don't attack through brute force. They figure out everyone's weaknesses and strengths, then play people against each other, coordinating their efforts so that each manipulated player is hit at their weakest spots at the weakest times. They can abduct and mind program people, telepathically persuade them, use implants and scalar weapon beams to modulate emotions, send in perfectly controllable matrix agents to provide the catalyst that makes it all explode, place icky negative thoughtforms on a forum to make people feel like staying away, launch psychic attacks on key individuals to destroy their faith and enthusiasm, and nudge people into acting irrationally to create mistrust and division. The majority initially go along with it, thinking it's the natural order of things, unknowingly letting themselves be silently manipulated, although NR has been fortunate to have some aware members who refuse to be overcome by reactivity, or at least recognize and regret it afterwards.  But in less successful cases it eventually all implodes and suffocates.

More reasons why a forum (or any source) is not always shut down:

* negative forces don't have absolute power

* positive forces that referee this "game" have greater power

* it is more convenient to quietly hijack than forcefully suppress a threat

* threats are attacked as silently as possible to prevent detection, backlash, and confirmation

* certain metaphysical and occult laws cannot be broken

* there is just enough false information (or opportunity for monitoring, feeding, etc...) to keep the negative forces satisfied

* the positive liberating stuff is not being forced on anyone, so with freewill being respected, greater metaphysical protection and oversight is afforded

However, while negative forces stay stealthy due to the danger of working openly and freely, if they can put enough of their pieces in place to secure total control, then they can come out in full force and do as they please. Things might get to that point eventually, and then the internet will be indeed shut down.

An example is Nazi Germany. For the longest time, Hitler and the Nazis were carefully massaging public opinion, manipulating the minds of the masses, getting the proper legislation passed, and so on. During that time they could not use force wherever and whenever they wanted. But when they did finally manage to secure control, then came the train cars and concentration camps and blitzkriegs. Another example would be underground resistance movements, where preparations are made as undetectable as possible until the time is right and then it's an all out revolution.

So yes, calmly planning some contingencies would be a good idea.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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That is what I'm trying to do, download download download then burn to CD/DVD-R/W etc.

Things that can be printed would also be good, for hard copies when/if the power network completely goes out and that is all we are left with.

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I went to yahoo.com and the main news article featured was how the experts consider the internet a failure and they are recommending that it be done over. I'm sure the do over will be no freedom to talk to each other. I'm sure the 'truthseeker' movement in all its forms annoys the hell out of them. But, it is contained to a small number of people. Most people are to overworked and programmed through fear to question anything. But, I can see them even coming after the 1% they are control freaks because they are controlled of course.

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ape-x wrote:

Not even close to enough members here for the intel agencies or matrix enforcers to be concerned about.

The number of people involved doesn't make any difference.  They will focus in on just one person if that person is running a website that reveals a forbidden truth.  I have seen forums with a much smaller membership than this one get attacked on an ongoing basis.  I could write a book about all the manipulation I have witnessed and experienced personally, but it makes me tired just thinking about it.  And that's the purpose of it, to make people tired so they withdraw and give up.  It is real, it destroys lots of forums and it can destroy people's lives as well.

They don't try to stop truth from coming out on the internet or otherwise.  They allow it and encourage it to come out so they can control the way people will receive it.  The people who are pulling the strings will plant clues or reveal pieces of truth themselves.  They even choose people who can unknowingly be "used" to reveal the truth, and subsequently debunked.  If you think about it an internet message board is the greatest medium to introduce an idea, test it on a segment of the public and explore ways to manipulate perceptions of that idea.

I know someone who put up a website exposing a conspiracy, and made a lot of personal sacrifices for it.  The very first person who ever took an interest in it and befriended him turned out to be an agent...but he didn't know it until a few years later.  In the meanwhile this agent opened a discussion board for him and brought in a large group of people who acted out all kinds of crazy scenarios to turn away sincere members and run the forum into the ground.

A lot of the strategies people use to destroy forums will look just like ordinary trolling, gossip and in-fighting on the surface, but it is all calculated down to the last move, like a chess game.  One of the most insidious things to watch out for is what I call "pretend enemies".  That's when person A doesn't get along with person B and the entire forum will be persuaded to choose sides.  One or both parties will start new forums and attempt to take away half the membership with them. 

This place is really unique, and I hope everyone appreciates that.  Running a forum is a huge responsibility, and Montalk does an awesome job...but the success of a forum depends largely on the members themselves, on their maturity and willingness to keep the place alive.  It's great to be part of a group of so many openminded and intelligent people.

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I didn't mean to downplay all the effort and tenacity on Montalk's part
in keeping this place alive, I just meant that if they really did see it as a threat on a large scale, it would have happened by now. I don't mean to be ignorant of what is involved in running a forum like NR, but I am actually because I don't know firsthand.

Credit to Montalk for making it appear
un-messed with, because I do know that's not the case. The beauty is that it is small enough, that if a troll or agent tries to sneak by, they will be called out and exposed in little time.

If by some rare chance Montalk doesn't catch it, another member will.

I pray NR never gets Vista'd and phased out, because it does look like that's what is happening.

Maybe Gatesie shoulda called it 'hasta la internet Vista' - who knows, that may have been one interpretation for the new name........................           J

Happy to have been a part

10 (edited by montalk 2007-04-14 19:29:28)

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ape-x wrote:

This forum has been open for over 3 years, all you need to do is take a look back over things that have been discussed, because they get way deeper and weirder than alot of the topics we have seen lately.

Right, the forum used to be deeper and more energized. So how things are now is no reflection on how things have been for most of NR's life. Those who have been around long enough know that the forum used to be much more of a threat, and that it received correspondingly more attacks. Discussions tended toward creative brainstorming, heated debates, networking, and coming up with groundbreaking ideas. Over the past several months the forum has became increasingly subdued and homogenized. With the aggressive trolls and flamers gone, those sharp warrior types with strong energies who enjoy battle probably got bored and left. What replaced them was a relatively more phlegmatic membership, with discussions shifting toward relatively more meandering that old members might find frustrating, which is another reason some of them no longer participate. Maybe the attacks simply shifted tactics from 'death by fire' to 'death by ice', or maybe NR has served its purpose and is now coasting along in its optional post-phase, I don't know.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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Montalk, are you getting nostalgic for the flamewar days? Sounds like you may be a little disillusioned about the future of your own baby- say it ain't so!

I think I do understand what you mean, it has felt like between phases somewhat, but honestly from my perspective I consider it evolution of
collective, and phlegmatic can be taken many ways, I hope it's not the Borg mentality you had in mind?     J

Happy to have been a part

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I'm not nostalgic so much as realizing that every pro has its con. If you're familiar with the four temperaments system, what used to be more "choleric" is now more "phlegmatic" -- reason I use these terms is that each has positive and negative attributes. On a positive note the forum way calmer, more relaxed, and less divided than before. For myself, this means more time and energy to devote to writing and research projects instead of dealing with troublemakers. Just stating the facts, sir!

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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Ok smoother, but not necessarily better... it is that it is. Nothing is static. Less time moderating must be very good- I dig smile                     J

Happy to have been a part

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For whatever reason, there are people who just try to suppress love, enjoyment, and beauty and knowledge like that...i really dont understand why...theyre jealous theyre not all powerful or something...i just cannot understand it myself..i guess theyre out for some sort of power over everything and everyone lol

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I think those at the top want exclusive rights to enjoyment, wealth, and resources. So, theyre going to keep down everything that is a threat to their power and control, because they fear sharing really...they want to make sure that they control everyone because they have an innate fear of losing control to something other than themselves id say.

Every man at times wants absolute power and control over everything and everyone...its sort of king of the jungle type of thing...absolute rule and sexual rights to everything in the jungle...its an instinctual thing i think.