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#1 2007-03-22 09:29:34

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Does anyone recognize this symbol?

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1720/tetracrossxu1.jpg

Does anyone remember off the top of their head what the four-leaf design inside the circle is called? Like a triquetra but with four arcs instead of three. It's not called quadquetra. This emerged when I was making a diagram of four circular coils stuck onto the faces of a tetrahedron; scalar wave antenna. Without the name, I cannot look up its esoteric meaning. Oh yeah, it's also two infinity signs at right angles, could be interpreted as infinite space / infinite time, or maybe cyclical spacetime since those are sine waves. Hmm.


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#2 2007-03-22 13:18:38

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Re: Does anyone recognize this symbol?

The Double infinity  pictured without the circle around it is used for balancing the chakras when done 13 times over the chakra.

The circle (Kara) has hindu meaning as a bracelet worn by initiates to help keep them from wrong doing.

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#3 2007-03-22 14:36:28

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Re: Does anyone recognize this symbol?

There's something about that middle clover symbol that has always struck me!  Unfortunately, I didn't quite find it.  Here's the closest I came...

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/2015/nyamehc7.gif

Nyame dua (an altar to the sky God or "God's tree") --
a symbol of the altar, a place of worship.


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#4 2007-03-22 15:33:05

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Re: Does anyone recognize this symbol?

2 ideas that come to me about it are 1) a derivation of the solar cross; and 2) a representation of the base chakra (4 petal lotus in a circle)

But I searched a number of symbol sites I know of, and was surprised how utterly absent this symbol was! It just feels so familiar I thought for sure it would be easy to find. Curious.


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#5 2007-03-22 17:23:15

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Re: Does anyone recognize this symbol?

As T-Ren says - it just appears to be called the double infinity symbol.

http://www.peyoteway.org/peyoteway/images/PeyoteG1.gif

I found a version here http://www.peyoteway.org/ if it is of any interest, at the site of the Peyote Way Church.

This newsletter includes a mention - http://www.1spirit.com/1news/0700newsletter.html

The double infinity symbol appears as a horizontally laid figure eight, intersected by a vertically positioned figure eight. It is the emblem for the 11th dimension (The dimension where many over souls reside). The dimension was created by a triad of color rays: the violet, rose and clear. In the ancient mystery schools, it was recognized that certain symbols existed for creating doorways or "keys to understanding". These allow one to work with the energies coming from the other places or dimensions. The purpose is to connect in a conscious manner to your Over soul; to embrace the state of oneness, knowledge, and empowerment that connection provides.

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#6 2007-03-22 21:10:39

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Re: Does anyone recognize this symbol?

Thanks for digging up some info on this, it helps. So a double-infinity symbol, four-leaf clover, chakra exercise, and the four-petaled lotus of the base chakra. Yeah I haven't found this on common symbol databases either, which is indeed unusual.

Found this:
http://z.about.com/d/altreligion/1/0/b/U/2/shieldknot.jpg http://z.about.com/d/altreligion/1/0/c/U/2/shieldknot4.jpg
http://altreligion.about.com/library/gl … ldknot.htm

The shield knot is an ancient and nearly universal symbol. The shield knot has been used for thousands of years by a varfiety of cultures for protection and warding.

While the common design is most often associated with the Celts and ancient Norse, the most basic form is much older. The fourfold version at right is Mesopotamian in origin and is associated with protective spells invoking the gods of the four corners of the earth.

Later, it was used in the Kabbalah as a symbol of the Shema, the prayer/spell to invoke the four Archangels; it is the origin of the "Qabbalistic Cross" ritual still used today. This knot is sometimes referred to as the "Earth Square" or St. Hans cross.

The Norse and Celtic versions of the knot are used for the same purposes of protection but are related to the fourfold solar cross.

Someone pointed out to me, "Four corners of the earth? Since when does the earth have four corners? Four cardinal directions, yes, but corners? Even a flat earth is round.  So...unless it really means tetrahedron"

http://chuma.cas.usf.edu/~juster/S4/tetrahedron.gif


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#7 2007-03-22 22:42:01

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Re: Does anyone recognize this symbol?

Tom, are you aware of the "Rose of Four Petals" as a mathematical rep of curves and planes?

http://curvebank.calstatela.edu/index/rose4.gif

and

http://steiner.math.nthu.edu.tw/ne01/tj … e4-tg.html

I'm completely out of my element, but I did happen to find these animated images and it's your "flower" or double-infinity symbol, though without the encasing circle. Don't know if it would lead anywhere else, but you're the better mind to find out than me! LOL!


Oh, and in architecture it's referred to as a "Quatrefoil" (french for four leaves), found in Gothic and Tudor styles... often used for windows and arches

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#8 2007-03-23 04:22:26

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Re: Does anyone recognize this symbol?

Nice sleuthing, folks. 

Montalk wrote:

This emerged when I was making a diagram of four circular coils stuck onto the faces of a tetrahedron; scalar wave antenna.

In the same vein as ape-x's inquiry about the prime number generator, I wonder if you could elaborate on this, too?  This is all very curious but to an uninitiate like myself even with Wikipedia my grasp on it is tenuous at best.  Provided it's even possible to explain any of this in laymen's terms and if you're not too busy, that is.

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#9 2007-03-23 06:13:06

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Re: Does anyone recognize this symbol?

I'm not too sure but I'm pretty sure I've seen it or at least something very similar in one of "William Henry's" videos.. I have one of his dvd's on my pc that I've been meaning to watch... I'll watch it this weekend and let you know if it shows up and where its from!

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#10 2007-03-23 07:14:03

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Re: Does anyone recognize this symbol?

lilmomma wrote:

In the same vein as ape-x's inquiry about the prime number generator, I wonder if you could elaborate on this, too?  This is all very curious but to an uninitiate like myself even with Wikipedia my grasp on it is tenuous at best.  Provided it's even possible to explain any of this in laymen's terms and if you're not too busy, that is.

Sure, this had to do with the postulate that ether is dragged along by electric currents, and that compression or expansion of ether leads to changes in the local rate of time. Ether is the fabric of reality that everything physical immersed in. This idea came to me a few years ago, but since that time I have found others exploring the same concept. One is Alexander Frolov, a sharp Russian researcher into fringe technologies. His research associates built a time dilation device that created a 3% reduction in the time rate. That's 1 minute and 48 seconds per hour gone, via electromagnetic waves fired toward the center of a sphere.

There are several methods for compressing ether. One involves toroidal coils. A toroidal coil is a doughnut shaped coil made of insulated copper wire, as though a tube were wound with wire and then bent into a circle. Since ether is dragged along by current, a toroidal coil will have ether flowing along the windings and some distance from it, enveloping the coil and circulating like a smoke ring. If the coil is horizontal, then precisely at its open center the ether will either be flowing straight down or straight up.

So if several of these coils can all aim their ether flow towards a common point, at that point the ether will be compressed. One way to do this is through four coils stuck onto the sides of a tetrahedron.

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6379/tetracoilsmalleg2.jpg

Why tetrahedron? Because it is the simplest 3D shape with sides, allowing for the fewest number of coils. A cube would require six coils since it has six sides, which is more expensive.

If the coils are given a pulsed electrical signal, then the ether can be pulsed as well, which allows for experimentation in producing compressive/expansive waves in the ether, which are identically scalar waves. But it was in drawing the circles onto the sides of a tetrahedron that the above double-infinity sign emerged, although sloppily since perspective was taking away from the symmetry. So I just forced the symmetry and came up with that symbol. Happens a lot... make some diagram of some scalar physics principle, and it ends up looking just like various symbols of history.

The Fleur de Lis looks like the asymmetrical field of a toroid, the Templar Cross is the basic recipe for compressing ether, the cross section of a certain scalar field shows a horned center surrounded by meandering circular trenches just like the Minotaur at the center of the Cretan Labyrinth, the Yin Yang looks like the gravitational component of a rotating magnet, the Ark of the Covenant is topologically a spherical capacitor which is another type of scalar wave antenna, and so on. Or that "torus" and "taurus" are phonetically identical, that torus/toroids are the 3D representation of 4D hyperspheres and play other roles in transdimensional technologies. They are representative also of the true nature of time, linear timeloops stacked along the circular path of the Grand Cycle of spiritual evolution. See the Nexus Seven and Cassiopaean material for more on that.

About for tauruses, besides the Minotaur, bulls figure prominently in myths as devices the gods use to carry out their will. For instance, in scandinavian mythology a great bull was used to plow up the "Sampo" (magical millstone that shaped and anchored reality) so that it could be stolen, which I think relates to the great hyperdimensional cataclysm that happened long ago and created our linear timeline as we know it. Another relevant myth is the Epic of Gilgamesh and the Great Bull of Heaven. Also note that David Icke's "Tales from the Timeloop" cover shows a torus for his conception of the Timeloop. Apples are close to toroidal in shape, and it was an apple that sent Adam and Eve out of the 4D paradise and into the 3D wilderness of linear time. There is other weird stuff like a quantum phase equation for time [z = e^(it)] equaling the German word for time: zeit. What are the chances of that? Preston Nichols did a lecture once about invisibility devices that change quantum phase to cloak a person, which he diagrammed out as being a slight rotation around the torus of time. No bull smile

Anyway, maybe I'll put some of this stuff into a future article. Speaking of apples, generally I avoid treading into William Henry territory since with there being so much myth and symbolism to choose from, it's very easy to get carried away with wishful thinking. And I don't think this is essential, practical, or spiritual knowledge everyone needs to know or even cares about.

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#11 2007-03-23 07:46:13

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Re: Does anyone recognize this symbol?

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/siriarc/nib13.jpg


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#12 2007-03-23 08:54:53

lilmomma
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Registered: 2006-07-24

Re: Does anyone recognize this symbol?

Thank you kindly for that most eloquent explanation.  I've read it and reread it again and again.  I believe I understand the gist of it now, insofar as something so vast has a gist.  Endlessly fascinating.  A true test of time and mind.  (And using a pyramid shaped object...really...that's just...I don't know...words fail).

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#13 2007-03-23 09:59:44

sinaptix
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Registered: 2005-07-09

Re: Does anyone recognize this symbol?

montalk was mentioning the apple and the torus and I had just stumbled onto this graphic from the Meru foundation...

http://www.meru.org/contin.gif

Last edited by sinaptix (2007-03-23 10:18:01)

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#14 2007-03-23 17:33:51

druid
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Registered: 2006-08-06

Re: Does anyone recognize this symbol?

In Steiner's book, you'll find that the lowest chakra-lotus flower is the anal one, and it is supposed to have 4 petals. Two petals wake up by themselves naturally, but the other two have to be put in movement by our conscious spiritual activity and meditation.

This lowest charka connects us to all nature and EARTH reality.

People who lack a connection to down-to-earth reality have problems with this chakra that connects them (or not if blocked) to the Earth.

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#15 2007-03-24 18:50:35

Tropicality
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Registered: 2007-02-15

Re: Does anyone recognize this symbol?

This image is probably too far off, but here it is anyways: Sumerian Symbol for the God Quetzacotil (or the god of nine winds) http://williamhenry.net/images/image003.jpg

Taken from: http://williamhenry.net/stargateOfGods.htm

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