Topic: Is digital music affecting your health?

Came across this article a few days ago. There are some grey areas in it that don't quite add up to me. I am also not 100% sold on kinesiology to be honest, there is some "debunking" material out there on it that rings pretty true.

Nevertheless, from my own experience, I can say that my ears have gotten more and more tired of listening to mp3 files played on my computer, as well as my IPod. For many years I was an obsessed music collector, collecting in all formats, CD, cassette and vinyl. When I became aware of mp3s, and got access to high speed internet at my college, I pretty much went berzerk and downloaded literally thousands of albums over the period of a couple years, and burned them onto CDRs which I stored in thick binders. I also sold 99% of my physical music collection and backed it all up on mp3, so that added a lot. I have probably over 400 CDRs stored in binders in a box, all with anywhere from 6 to 14 albums or EPs on them.

I am beginning to get perspective on this digital addiction now, which was also just brought up in the excellent topic on masturbation and computor pr0n in the General Discussion. I did my undergraduate in Information Technology mainly because I was very good with computers, awkward socially so it was hard to get exposed to other interests outside my own frame of reference. I was a compulsive "collector" of all types of media, because I saw a so-much vaster world than the people around me, I wanted to see everything, hear everything, anything obscure, anything "fringe" I wanted to know about it. The mainstream disgusted me from the beginning, but I was fascinated by all the little independent labels putting out strange little 7"s in editions of 500 copies, or obscure music other countries that would never get released here. There is an endless amount of music out there to collect. In retrospect, I wasted a HUGE amount of time learning about, searching for and finally downloading these artifacts. Probably 29 out of 30 of them were literally not worth listening to once. I guess only hindsight shows you things like that. At the time, it was exciting, and I thought I was expanding my horizons.

Now in the past four or five years, its like its all fallen away. I stopped my media input by about 95%. After I moved out of my parents house five years back I never bought a TV again. Films in theaters really turned me off and I stopped going out to movies. And music began to lose my attention. I am still coming to terms with it, so I'm not sure I can speak eloquently on it. I am still VERY confused about it. I thought I was a musician, but I am feeling really "done" with modern music... modern media.... digital media. I still enjoy music, and I love the sounds of my natural environment. I prefer natural sounds or soft whispers of natural "silence" the most. Even "ambient" music which I used to love getting so deeply lost in... it doesn't really touch me now. I listen to music for probably less than two hours total per week (rather than ALL THE TIME), and I watch video media for maybe an hour a day max, watching video files on my PC. Being at work, I am in front of a computer for as long as I'm here, which I'm not happy about, but at least I have time to read and post on NR. smile But at home, I consciously feel revulsion from my laptop, I don't want to open the lid and turn it back on even though I want to check my email or whatever.

I listen to music and sometimes it still moves me, but often I am just extremely aware (maybe from my music/technical background) of all the patterns of the sounds forming a hypnotic whole, and I just feel bored by it, so I turn it off. Even stuff from earlier this year that I was like "WOW" at the time, I feel no attraction to it now.

One other thing worth noting, this is actually pretty major but I kind of take it for granted! Since about five years ago, I have had music "stuck" in my head pretty much ALL THE TIME. I became aware of it about a year after I had begun meditating and focusing more on a spiritual path, without having any particular direction or developed discernment. I remember commenting to my father while taking a walk with him about five years ago, that I always had a song stuck in my head. It feels almost as though there is a boombox on in the corner of my brain. It is behind my other thoughts, my conscious thoughts, like background music. It can be songs that I haven't heard for YEARS, like since I was a young kid. Right now it is Sade's Sweetest Taboo, for example. tongue I cannot consciously turn it off. I have to get into a very relaxed, meditative state, and more like focus BEYOND it... or, I can focus intently on the physical sounds I am hearing in the present moment, and that tends to block it. I also awake in the middle of the night and instantly find myself with music in my head, as though it was playing before I woke up. This has been a source of a lot of anxiety for me on the spiritual path, because I feel very disabled from having focused, clear meditation, and there is certainly very little "inner silence" within my mind. I suspect digital has contributed to this. Only in the past year or so have I began to get more of handle on it, and experience more silence, and more peace within my mind, and get a bit more detached from it. But I still can't turn it off yet.

It has all been an intuitive thing, which is why I can't explain the feeling that well. This article just really resonated with me because I HAVE been unconsciously asking myself the question "is digital music affecting my health?" and my intuitive response was "yes, I am SICK of computers, I am SICK of digital media, I wish I just had a few grand to go buy a bunch of bells and singing bowls and tonal instruments, and percussion and drums, and a bunch of friends to play on them with me." But its years on, and I've never been able to put together that kind of "group". I'm extremely isolated socially on account of all the pod people I observe around me... I reach out, but the result is minimal. I just keep trying, so I don't turn into a completely ANTI-social person, because I'm not really. I used to really enjoy having friends, and I miss them.

I enjoy listening to vinyl, and there is a lot of vinyl out there that was recorded and produced with analogue equipment. Maybe its time to get into all those 50cent Classical records at the thrift store....

Is Digital Music Affecting Your Health?

By: John Diamond, MD



D.P.M., F.R.A.N.Z.C.P., M.R.C.Psych., F.I.A.P.M., D.I.B.A.K.

(First published 1980, modified and with a postscript, 2003)

Music is one of the great therapies. Throughout recorded history in all parts of the world, music has been used as therapy. In fact, of all factors that have been investigated, probably none enhances the Life Energy and reduces stress more effectively than music.[1] Perhaps the most obvious example of this is the fact that at the age of seventy, when some 50% of American males are already dead, some 80% of musical conductors are still alive, healthy, and productive. The tremendous therapeutic power of music has always been recognized, and it has been the subject of many discourses, from the time of Pythagoras to Moses Maimonides and beyond.[2] To me, as to Pythagoras, music is not mere entertainment or amusement (the absence of the muse), but therapy. It is one of the most potent modalities that exists for actuating what the Greeks called thymos, what Hippocrates called the vis medicatrix naturae, the healing power that exists within us all: Life Energy.

There are still many cultures in which there has been no divorce between music and healing. For example, in many so-called primitive societies, the healing shaman is nearly always a musician, and music and incantation are as important as all the other aspects of his profession. The only remnant we see of this in our society is the use of music in religious ceremonies, a custom which dates back to a time before the separation in our society of medicine and religion. And thus throughout the centuries and today, over and above the usual satisfaction or the more physical enjoyment we may derive from music, there is another quality, and it is this other quality, this Life Energy enhancing quality to which I have devoted a major part of my research over the years.

I have tested many thousands of phonograph recordings recorded over a period of over eighty years, and it has been found that almost without exception this music has been therapeutic,[3] often highly so. In fact, it has been used for stress reduction, relaxation, general tonification, analgesia, as part of modified acupuncture techniques, and as adjunctive therapy in drug withdrawal programs. Music has also been used in programs to overcome fears and phobias, alleviate insomnia, and even for the "tranquilization" of acutely disturbed psychotic patients.

In 1979 this changed. I suddenly found that I was not achieving the same therapeutic results as before, that playing records of the same compositions to the same patients was producing a completely contrary effect! Instead of their stress being reduced and their Life Energy being actuated, the opposite was occurring. Music examples that I had long used to promote sleep now seemed to be actually aggravating the insomnia. And I found in one case that instead of the music helping a patient withdraw from tranquilizers, it seemed to increase his need for them. Special tapes for businessmen to use during their rest periods seemed suddenly to increase rather than reduce their stress. These findings were very alarming.

When I investigated these paradoxical phenomena, I found that in all cases they were related to the use of digital recordings. These were vinyl records made from digital masters.[4] When I substituted analog versions of the same work, sometimes even with the same performers, the positive therapeutic effects were again obtained. There seemed to me little doubt that something was "wrong" with the digital process. Apparently the digital recording technique not only did not enhance Life Energy and reduce stress, but it was actually untherapeutic - that is, it imposed a stress and reduced Life Energy. Through some mechanism of which I am not aware the digital process was somehow reversing the therapeutic effects of the music!

In a number of instances I had analog and digital performances that we could easily compare. One was of Zubin Mehta conducting Beethoven’s Emperor Concerto. The digital performance (on London) had a stress-inducing effect whereas the old analog performance (on Vox) did not. Also the early LP transfers of Caruso and McCormack were Life Energy enhancing whereas the Soundstreamed digital versions had the opposite effect. Yet these were records of the same performance. The only difference was the digitalization process. And this was apparent even though the original recordings had been made nearly seventy years ago. Other examples were the Japanese Denon PCM recordings of various Czech performers whose earlier versions were on the Supraphon label. They were the same performers and the same works. The only difference appeared to be the digital process.

As a part of my work and as one of my research tools, I employ muscle testing, in a modification of the standard Applied Kinesiology testing. It is modified as I first presented to an ICAK conference in 1977. See the description of my study with Dr. Florence Kendall in my Kinesiology Report Number 10, December, 1977. At the request of Dr. Goodheart, I demonstrated this again at the ICAK conference in Monte Carlo in 1995.

If you play a digital recording, it will be found that the muscle that was previously testing strong and could easily resist the pressure, will be unable to do so - that the digital effect has so stressed the subject that he cannot resist. Something has happened. Some stress has been introduced which is now manifest in this negative response. Perhaps even more striking are the differences in stress effects found upon testing a recording session in which digital and analog recordings were made simultaneously.[5] Similar effects are also apparent with the human speaking voice using this newer digital recording process.[6]

This effect obviously is not due to the performer nor to the composer, since other recordings, analog, of the same performer and the same composer do not have this effect. In fact, they are therapeutic - that is, they reduce stress and enhance Life Energy on testing. There is a yet-to-be-identified factor involved in the digital technique which is causing this stress. At some level the ear is perceiving a signal which it recognizes as being unnatural and alarming. This instantaneously causes a stress reaction which is manifest in the loss of muscle response on test.

Many audiophiles and engineers state that they have noticed that they can discern something vaguely "wrong" with the digital recording process but cannot quite pinpoint the problem. Using the test, it can easily be shown that, using the same playback system, the difference between analog and digital recording does exist. While we certainly enjoy the benefits of this major technological breakthrough, there are subtle physiological effects still to be considered.

It is important to emphasize that this is not a test of muscle strength. It is a test of the integrity of the acupuncture system. Through it flows the electromagnetic energy of the body. A heavy, powerful testing is a test of muscle strength, not of Life Energy, and it is, in essence, a different test. When I demonstrated my findings at the Audio Engineering Society conference in Los Angeles in May 1980, I was accused of pushing too hard when the subjects were failing when the digital records were being played. In point of fact, pushing "too hard" if anything will fail to demonstrate the effect. It is not, I repeat NOT, a test of muscle strength. Hence the testing requires considerable expertise. It is not for casual and amateurish usage. It is a professional discipline.

This test has been performed both by myself and others under double blind test situations on many occasions, and the results always tend to be about the same, with many provisos. In particular, I wish to emphasize that for accurate testing there are many variables that must be controlled, many more than I can elaborate upon in this short presentation. Furthermore, as I have previously stated, for accurate interpretation I test not just at the one superficial level of testing that I have described above, but in at least twelve deeper levels as well. It is only when all the variables are accurately controlled and testing is carried out at all levels and parameters that the findings are meaningful.

I am more aware than any pro-digital advocate of the shortcomings of the test. And I would like nothing more than to be able to read a meter instead. However, although many electronics experts have tried to help me to design such an instrument, they have never been successful. They finally realize that perhaps the body itself may be a better test device than any instrument that we can make. Will we ever measure the difference between violins, or poems?

I personally believe that the proper research tool can be designed, but it will not ultimately be related to any muscle test. It will involve measuring the change in electromagnetic activity in that part of the body where is situated what we may call the acupuncture central processor, because it is the electromagnetic disturbance there which is manifested as a weakening of the test muscle. And it is there, centrally, that the stressful effect of the digital recordings occurs, being then reflected in a diminished acupuncture energy flow to the specific meridian feeding the muscle being tested.

What if my findings and those of my colleagues are correct? For many years now, nearly all recordings of otherwise therapeutic music have been made using the digital process. The implications of this, both for today and for our future, are very disturbing. If the major therapeutic recording artists of today are recorded for posterity using the present digital technique their efforts will be valueless for us and valueless for future generations. No more will we be able to call upon the therapeutic powers, the true healing powers, of the musicians of our day as we have called upon the musicians of the past. This will mark the end of the therapeutic era of recorded music. The great technological advance of being able to bring the greatest performers into our homes for true entertainment, and much more importantly, to raise our Life Energy, will have been destroyed.

When a man comes home stressed after a day's work and puts on a record of a Schubert piano sonata to help him re-energize, the opposite will occur. He will become more stressed. And he will learn over a period of time that music does not help him to relax as he had expected. Or a person who as part of his religious pursuit plays a record of the Bach B Minor Mass will perhaps recognize that he is further removed from his goal - that instead of serenity, instead of holiness, instead of a feeling of life enhancement, the opposite has occurred. The music has become untherapeutic, contrary to its true nature.

It is no longer Music!

We will then cease to regard music as being what it is: one of the great therapies. Our recorded musical heritage will still satisfy the brain but will do nothing for the rest of the listener. Our true recorded musical heritage will be at an end.

I have frequently been in the position where discoveries first made through "unscientific" means have later been validated by what would be called the more usual scientific methods, and I have no doubt that in the future it will be recognized that the findings concerning digital recordings will be validated. But by that time, it may be that many works of our great artists will have been preserved in an unacceptable form.

By correcting the digital technique, we may actually now be able to make recordings more therapeutic than they have ever been before, more so than analog. By discovering the central problem in existing digital recording techniques, we may be in a position then to so improve them that we ultimately have advanced the therapeutic benefit to mankind.


Postscript, May 2003

Finally, about two years ago, I was contacted by several of the major recording and electronic companies who said that they never forgot my address to the Audio Engineering Society in 1980. They said they knew then that I was right with what I had presented about the negative effects of the digital process, but unfortunately it was released anyhow. They asked me to help in finding a solution to what they were now calling “digital fatigue.”  Over the years I have tried many methods but all without success – until now.

Back then in 1980, I had only digitally recorded and/or mastered vinyl LPs to test. The arrival of CDs a few years later increased the problem. As with LPs, but more so, the stress leads after a certain time (different for each individual) to a reversal of their usual ethical and medical standards of belief. The effects of this profound change that I have now investigated for some twenty years are I believe a very important etiological factor in the increase in childhood and adolescent disturbances, (witness the soaring rate of Ritalin prescribing), and in the escalating violence in our society.

Especially when we recall that the digital process is no longer confined to recorded music but is now affecting us nearly all day: TV, radio, telephones etc. It is we who have become digitalized!

With the advent of Direct Stream Digital (DSD) recording, it is now possible to conclude that the negative effects I have stated above are due not to the digital process per se but to the mode of achieving it, Pulse Code Modulation (PCM). For DSD recordings do not have these negative effects.

Although it was suggested, unfortunately the record industry did not make analog backups of their digital (PCM) sessions. So now there is a (very expensive) twenty year hiatus. Hence some SACDs (the CD format for DSD) are being released which have gone through the PCM process and are as negative as regular CDs.

Increasingly over the years, music lovers are turning against PCM – they are feeling what I first demonstrated nearly a quarter-century ago. And they are resisting – proclaiming that it doesn’t sound like, feel like, analog. Cold, no heart. That is to say, untherapeutic.

(We must remember that a generation has probably rarely heard non-PCM music – for it is now so pervasive in concerts halls as “digital reinforcement”  as well.) Perhaps now there will be a change. We all know something is wrong – and the solution is available.

I write this not only as a music lover, and a believer in the therapeutic power of music, but even more so as a doctor gravely concerned with the increasing disturbance in our society, especially in the children. The very essence of Music is the expression of peace, of comfort – of love. And this PCM has destroyed, even reversed!

As a very experienced sound engineer and producer lamented, "Music has lost its Spirit." That’s it – exactly! And a generation has grown up not knowing it any other way: not knowing the higher dimension of music – the True Music.

And if their music has lost its spiritual dimension – then so have they!

We have lost our love of Music because we no longer feel loved by It. We must get it back – and we can.

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Here is a more recent response to this article, with comments, some of them insightful:
According to fabled audio design engineer, Richard Burwen, John Diamond is the primary proponent claiming this syndrome exists. Diamond would probably get more traction for his ideas if there wasn’t an air of wackiness regarding his overall view of things. I only mention this because I was at a meeting the other day with one of the most famous audio engineers in the world who demonstrated the effects purported by Diamond. It was pretty amazing to watch.

My question: is it possible that some disruptive component is introduced into any audio stream that is coded or decoded via a PCM methodology? If so, what is it? It has to be something identifiable, otherwise all this makes no sense.

Also, one of the "solutions" proposed to this problem is VERY expensive audiophile equipment, which in my mind would basically not do ANYTHING about the original problem of the source material having been converted to digital in the first place. Just because you could play a digital sound through analogue equipment, or through vacuum tubes, or whatever else, that does not RESTORE what was taken away when the original conversion to digital was made! Nuff said!!
Mark Levinson is an interesting character and a legend in the high-end audiophile community. I find it very odd though that PCM would have a negative impact on the body. I rarely listen to PCM when I play CDs, DVDs, etc. More often than not I prefer to listen to speakers. Last time I checked my speakers were not pushing air one bit at a time. But why let such matters interfere with a good story.

I took a look at one of Mark Levinson’s products, a $6,700 USD CD processor, called the No. 390s. This modestly priced CD processor uses the Analog Devices AD1853 DAC which offers the following attributes:

I don't really agree with the debunkers about the core issue. There is a BIG problem with converting things to digital. It is not yet fully identified with my mind, but I am growing increasingly aware of it.


2 (edited by LipstickMystic 2007-01-19 11:56:38)

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You're definitely onto something here.

This article immediately came to mind from Stephanie Relfe's Metatch site. She's a kinesiologist and while, like you said, kinesiology has its share of debunkers, it's very interesting how she found one man who kept getting seriously out of balance after touching a free demo CD he'd been given at a conference:

Here's an excerpt from the article about what they deduced might have been unique about this CD:

"When we talked on the phone with the scientist, he confirmed that this was, in fact, much more than "just" a CD:

1. It had an electro coating, with some type of silver alloy.

2. It had a diffraction grating which provided interference with visible light patterns.

3. It had encoded patterns.

He told us that it had been noticed that there was a change in the construction of CDs 5 years ago (Since this was 1999 I guess that was around 1994). My notes from this phone conversation mention a "vacuum deposition" (sorry - I don't know what this means).

He said that this meant that the CD became an antenna. This meant that in combination with a computer, the CD could intrude on a person, particularly an unaware person (which is most people).

He said what we had already decided, that the distributor of the CD likely did not know about this.

He talked about how sound can be more powerful than electromagnetic energy. For example, the sound of Pan Pipes or the Australian Didgeridoo can break the matrix from things such as this CD.

He believed that protecting oneself with white light was not such a good idea as information can be place into it. It is better to use purple or deep blue light."

(end excerpt)

I think the bit there about not protecting yourself with white light is very important, as this same piece of wisdom has come up in my own research. It's almost like white light serves as an "Imprint me now with something please, negative critters!" energy signal, whereas shielding yourself with a color does not attract such negative attention.

Other concerns are raised later in the article about those free CD's America Online was always giving out some years back and how they were whacking people's energy systems and moods out.

Now obviously, a physical CD is different from downloadable digital media, but I'll bet some of the same stuff is at play with that technology, too.

And here's another interesting article she wrote about mind control in video games, specifically her experiences with the empire building game Caesar. (Which I played briefly some years ago, and which also really gave me some major disturbances at the time.)

I think avoiding any kind of hyper-stimulus from music, games, and media is really important to reduce the psychic clutter of the mind. After all, there's already more than enough psychic noise on this planet - the mental and emotional chaos of 7 billion people that we're constantly navigating through.  We need to give our brains a rest as much as we can!  smile

In recent years I've gotten to the point where I rarely listen to any music at all and now find it pretty intrusive when I do listen to it unless it's something instrumental like jazz or ambient music or classical guitar or other instrumental.  I really hate having lyrics from a song regurgitate themselves in my brain days or even weeks after I've listened to a song. It's pretty creepy, isn't it?  Makes you reflect on how easy it must be to program people's behaviors and emotions by feeding them certain popular songs, which end up playing on a permanent feedback look in their brains. 

I'm glad you've been able to start weaning yourself off of some of that excessive amount of music.  It can be tough if you are a musical person who really enjoys sound, because that's a wonderful gift. But you're right, something is off with listening to things in digital formats.  I don't know what, but something is smelly about it! 

LipstickMystic aka Jennifer

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Digital music and ALL digital Technology are negative in their energy with respect to the human body.
The degree to which this affects a person can be dealt with in my view. In my case it boils down to a crappy way to reproduce sound, but passable for the time we are in.
A very fine musician in my collection Jean Michelle Jarre refuses to use digital tek in his recording.
There are some other threads where this has been discussed. Siri Arc will likely know where they are.
Digital recording is not an accurate means to reproduce the original because it relys on sampling
time slices of the event to fool your ear intsead of recording the entire thing as analog does.
You inner being knows that something is not quite right with it. Binary is totally polarized on off and energetically tends towards square waves. Its another form of artifice similar to fake sweetner. Digital tek is really crap but it has impressed the collective ego. I have been working around solid state technology in electromechanical circles for 29 years.
Its unstable, generally unrelaible, costly to replace, and can be difficult to troubleshoot because of exceedingly poor engineering. The complexity and stupidity of it increase on a function of linear time. Some of the systems I work on every day I would not give 10 cents for.
All digital tek is a time bandit to deal with. It consumes loads of man hours and gives back a royal pain in the ass. More integrated hybrid systems will absolutely kick ass on pure solid state any day of the year.


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I remember a friend back in around 91 who was in a band saying that digital is not pure and lacks heart and soul like analogue, at the time i argued with him saying digital has less distortion, crisper sound and all that. After all these years i understand what he was talking about.

There is something  about vinyl seemed to capture the moment with feeling, hard to describe.

As far as the negative encoding goes here is one method, no doubt there could be many others.,1284,52426,00.html

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

5 (edited by Pictus 2007-01-19 15:20:19)

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StarCat wrote:

Digital music and ALL digital Technology are negative in their energy with respect to the human body.
The degree to which this affects a person can be dealt with in my view. In my case it boils down to a crappy way to reproduce sound, but passable for the time we are in.
A very fine musician in my collection Jean Michelle Jarre refuses to use digital tek in his recording.

Jean Michel Jarre music is mainly made by synthesizer, being analog synthesizer or
digital synthesizer it is electronic music anyway, he uses both...

The quality of a CD is not that FULL, but there better solutions...
Not counting underground nefarious stuff, the problem with the
digital is because is too “equal"  “perfect" but there are ways
to “analog" the results through many ways even mathematical algorithms...

The universe we live is a mathematical universe see Fibonacci... … p;oe=utf-8

CD vs. SACD vs. DVD-A … p;oe=utf-8

Jean-Michel Jarre
Jean-Michel André Jarre (born August 24, 1948 in Lyon, France) is a French composer, performer
and music producer. The music he composes is very difficult to classify. There is arguably no single
music genre name that would perfectly describe his musical work. He is highly regarded as one of
the pioneers in the Electronic
and New Age music genres, as well as an innovator for his record-
breaking outdoor spectacles of his music, which feature laser displays and fireworks, linking the
music with the surrounding environment and architecture. By 2005, Jarre has sold an estimated 72
million albums and singles over his career

In 2002, Jarre performed a concert called "Aero" at Gammel Vr ¥ Enge wind farm, just outside
Aalborg in Denmark, to a rather wet audience of approximately 50,000. A studio-album of
mostly retooled Jarre classics was later released in 2004, in combined DVD and CD forms. The
DVD featured 5.1 sound, with DTS and Dolby Digital tracks. Jarre affirmed that this was the
first ever musical work conceived for 5.1 sound.

Bye, Pictus


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This is a great thread.    When I was a young kid I had some tapes, but pretty early on my life CDs came out and that's pretty much all I ever had that I can remember listening to for the longest time.

When I was in college, one day I went into the library and they were having a major sale of lots of old books and records that had been sitting in the stacks for years untouched.   The LPs were only 50 cents each, so I ended up going home with a collection of about 50 albums of classic rock and country music for $25.  Never mind that I didn't have a record player! big_smile   I got one on eBay shortly thereafter.

I hooked up this used record player at my mom's house through a cheap receiver with old beaten-up speakers -- a true audiophile's nightmare -- and started putting on a few records to hear how they would sound.    And my God, what a shock it was to hear how pure and natural some of them sounded.   I had never heard such wonderful sounding music (regardless of the artist).     There was an overwhelming and OBVIOUS difference between the sound of the records and that of the CDs I was so used to hearing.   I knew instinctively then that there was something majorly wrong with CDs.   I thought it probably had something to do with not all audible frequencies being captured due to the limitations of the CD specification (though that's probably still a part of it).   

This new relevation about the significance of PCM is extremely interesting.    I'm wondering where this might all lead if enough people in the right places become aware of it.    I think it would be great if the people doing this research could make some kind of a short documentary explaining this issue in terms that everyone can understand, and then put it out on Google Video and YouTube.     Because absent large-scale public awareness of this issue, there is pretty much zero likelihood that any change will come of it.    I think this is a very important issue and that it is worth focusing some energy on to effect some change.


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Great topic.  I used to be a real music lover but these days I am just sick and tired of listening to music.  I still listen to music most of the time I'm driving in my car, but it gets really tiresome.  Just yesterday I actually turned the radio off because I couldn't take it anymore.  I work in retail so I'm bombarded with music (or a poor imitation of it) all day anyway.  Silence is so rare these days, I'm surprised someone hasn't figured out a way to charge money for it.  The next relaxation gimmick will probably be "digital silence" played through noise canceling headphones!

Vinyl is the best medium by far.  Even a cassette tape with all its weaknesses is preferable to a CD.  I really like older stereo systems.  I have one that is about 40 years old, and you have to bang on it to get it to work, but it sure feels better to listen to than a newer stereo. 

I play piano, and I absolutely hate electronic pianos.  No matter how good the technology gets it will NEVER be the same as playing a real piano.

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I get a headache from listening to over-compressed mp3's. The more compressed the recordings are, the quicker digital fatigue sets in. 128k bit rate ones are terrible, I can barely tolerate 160k for a bit, but I prefer to listen to the lossless monkey audio (.ape) file format if I can find them. Ape files are the same quality as CD's. Digital radio over here in England is called DAB, and it's even worse then 128k mp3, as it uses mp2 which is a older and poorer quality encoding system. FM radio is much better quality then digital, and the receivers are far more power efficient.

I wouldn't want to go without music, but I prefer to either listen to music and relax or mediate, or else to have silence, I'm not a fan of background music or tv in my home.

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Avalokita, I know what you mean about overcompressed music.  It's blatently obvious listening to any modern radio station around here.  Not only are the original recordings overcompressed, but the station adds it's own compression as well!  It's all a battle over who can be LOUDER!  It gives me a headache listening to that music after awhile too. 

This post reminded me of something I read in Manly P Hall's Secret Teachings of all Ages

"The far-reaching effect exercised by music upon the culture of the Greeks is thus summed up by Emil Nauman: "Plato depreciated the notion that music was intended solely to create cheerful and agreeable emotions, maintaining rather that it should inculcate a love of all that is noble, and hatred of all that is mean, and that nothing could more strongly influence man's innermost feelings than melody and rhythm. Firmly convinced of this, he agreed with Damon of Athens, the musical instructor of Socrates, that the introduction of a new and presumably enervating scale would endanger the future of a whole nation, and that it was not possible to alter a key without shaking the very foundations of the State. Plato affirmed that music which ennobled the mind was of a far higher kind than that which merely appealed to the senses, and he strongly insisted that it was the paramount duty of the Legislature to suppress all music of an effeminate and lascivious character, and to encourage only s that which was pure and dignified; that bold and stirring melodies were for men, gentle and soothing ones for women. From this it is evident that music played a considerable part in the education of the Greek youth. The greatest care was also to be taken in the selection of instrumental music, because the absence of words rendered its signification doubtful, and it was difficult to foresee whether it would exercise upon the people a benign or baneful influence. Popular taste, being always tickled by sensuous and meretricious effects, was to be treated with deserved contempt. (See The History of Music.)"

"... it is not possible to alter a key without shaking the very foundations of the State."  That's the line the stuck out for me...

I can honestly say that it's been a long time since I've even heard music that was recorded and played back all within an analog fashion.  Possibly some oldies radio stations my parents used to listen to back when I kid would have met that criteria, but nothing recently. 

I spent a few years trying my hand at producing music.  I knew there were some people in this line of work that I considered "obsessed" with analogue gear (synths, recording equipment, etc).  I could definately hear the difference between the analog and their digital replications, but I never felt the difference was justified the cost at the time.  I'm sure some analog purists would argue otherwise. 

It does appear to be a mystery why digital music apparently has a negative effect on the body's energy system.  The square-wave aspect of all digital recordings could be one reason, but something makes me think there's more to it than that.  All square-waves introduce upper-harmonic frequencies.  Most digital recordings these days are at least played back at a sample rate of 44,100hz, which would be the assumed frequency of the digital square wave.  I think most professional recordings are made at a much higher sample rate, so the sum total of all these effects may play a role.  Regardless, this would put an square wave harmonics somewhere in the ultrasonic range.

From Wikipedia

"... However, as the frequency-domain graph shows, square waves contain a wide range of harmonics; these can generate electromagnetic radiation or pulses of current that interfere with other nearby circuits, causing noise or errors."

Perhaps a study of these harmonics from digital recordings could lead to some interesting conclusions? 

The binary amplitude resolution (16-bits or otherwise) could also be a factor, generating minute pulses outside of whatever was originally recorded. 

One could argue that analog recordings made on magnetic media have similar resolution problems in recreating an accurate representation of the sound, but they shouldn't have the same upper harmonic effects of digital recordings.  Instead line noise "hiss" is often a problem.  Maybe there's something about loosing this natural line noise in digital recording that could also play a factor?

Magnetic media might prove a more theraputic recording medium based on the fact that magnetic domains align in natural quantum states instead of the artificially derived digital states.

Interesting topic for sure...

Doc: Marty, you're not thinking fourth dimensionally!
Marty McFly: Yeah, I know, I got a real problem with that.

Re: Is digital music affecting your health?

Some people will go well out of their way to issue contradictions while not perceiving the crux of what was formerly stated, the depth, the proper context, or the intent. Missing these points is very telling as to the origin of such motivations. This also shows the limits of language, perception ,and the constant flux of things.


Re: Is digital music affecting your health?

I think 99% of all the digital audio is worked through PCM devices, from the analog to digital, and the digital to analog conversions. Then the tools they have for making SACD will work to convert stuff sampled via PCM methods so once it's done to the sound it's been done, there's no guarantee that getting an SACD would be free of that problem. So this would affect 100% of all music on CDs if I understand it correctly. That would include all the meditation CDs and all that stuff too. It looks like the equipment to author audio content using DSD is grossly expensive and practically out of reach of the common consumers and hobbyists. Hopefully that changes but with widespread ignorance there hasn't been a high demand. Right now price seems more important than quality. It would be cool to try a demo of this out and get an A/B blind comparison and see if I can notice the difference.

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Re: Is digital music affecting your health?

LipstickMystic wrote:

He believed that protecting oneself with white light was not such a good idea as information can be place into it. It is better to use purple or deep blue light."

(end excerpt)

I think the bit there about not protecting yourself with white light is very important, as this same piece of wisdom has come up in my own research. It's almost like white light serves as an "Imprint me now with something please, negative critters!" energy signal, whereas shielding yourself with a color does not attract such negative attention.

I am not too sure about this, white light is all colours and is only blank in terms of what aspect  one is focusing on, its not really blank as its all colours. White light is whole, while a single colour is only part of that whole which is unbalanced so possibly more likely to attract critters?
I feel that if my inner sun is shining from my heart outward  then what can a put a sun out or change its frequencies as its recreating itself second by second as it shines if you know what i mean.
This pure energy that comes from within itself and expresses the whole of creation is rightfully symbolized as white light in my understanding and breaking it down into its spectrum is where division and filters come into place and disharmony.
I know its very easy to create ones own universe with things like this and i know you are more energy sensitive than i am but i feel if my inner sun is shining with force and intent i feel no critter can get past it , though i do imagine my inner sun to be yellowish to reflect our own sun but it fills my aura with white light.

Maybe the difference could be some people  pump up the aura with white light from an external unbalanced source rather than from an internal one and connection to the all.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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About the digital “perfection" made me remember this:

Agent Smith: Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world?
Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept
the program. Entire crops were lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to
describe your perfect world. But I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality
through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum
kept trying to wake up from. Which is why the Matrix was redesigned to this: the peak of your

Bye, Pictus


Re: Is digital music affecting your health?

Tim, thanks for the OP.  I've been wondering about the negative effects of digital music for many years.  I am a kinesiologist from way back, although I usually only use it to test my self now.  I think Dr. Diamond's books were some of the first kinesiology books I read, nearly 20 years ago.  I wonder if he wrote about the digital issues in those early books and I just didn't pay attention or forgot?  That could be why it's remained a concern for me as digital media has become more popular.

I tend to think the negative effect is a result of the missing information - that causes it to be perceived as inauthentic or artificial.  I think the missing bits degrades the energy field of a recording. 

I believe either John Diamond or David Hawkins wrote about the negative effect of a reproduction painting compared to an original work of art.  Even if the person and the tester didn't know whether something was an original or a manufactured copy, the fake would consistently make the person go weak.  And strangely, it had nothing to do with the subject of the painting. 

Of course, if you are good at muscle testing, it is easy to demonstrate falsehood from truth, and falsehood seems to be universally detrimental to the energy system.  Perhaps the body reacts negatively to what it perceives as a false representation of human voice and sound, and the diminished or distorted energy field... similar to the reaction garnered by fake sugar and processed foods.

I have never ripped a CD to less than 192kbps, but even that doesn't sound right to me.  I sometimes use 320kbps, but don't really have to space for that, and if the CD itself is problematic... 

Barefoot Doc - I love what you wrote about the sun and the white light.  I bet that's very powerful and protective for you.  I have generally visualized gold light myself, but whatever works for you.  Belief and intention are probably more important.

Now... off to muscle test some CDs and media files. wink


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Barefoot Doc,

Absolutely, intention is everything, and I know that when you are charging your auric field with a true energy of love, confidence, and power, you bypass mere colors and colors aren't even relevant anymore.

But for me I have had lots of interactions with people who thought that white light was the best way to protect themselves, and the minute they used it, they starting getting abducted by negative ET's, harrassed by other "agents of the Matrix," and also having their auric field penetrated by parastic energies.

And it always seemed very strange to me because here they were seemingly doing the "right" things -- connecting with loving Spirit, projecting positive intentions, and all that good stuff. And for some reason white light seemed to be acting as a beacon for all manner of ick.

Sometimes one factor may have been the person being plugged into a particular teacher who had their own "stuff" going on -  and when this person would teach them a white light meditation, it could have definitely be imprinted with that teacher's "stuff" that they were carrying around.

But this has also happened with lots of people who didn't learn any "formal" white light meditation at all. They simply heard that white light was good for you, started working with it as a shielding color, and whammo!  All manner of abductions and badness suddenly permeated their lives.

When people work with a color instead of white light, this same stuff didn't seem to happen. 

So it's a bit of a puzzler. Like you said, white is all colors blended together, so you'd think it would be the most balanced, right?  I can't claim to understand the WHY of it.  Just that I've seen a lot of problems with the white light stuff for people. Wish it weren't happening, since so many people use it in all innocence and then experience devastating problems afterward and usually have no one to help them troubleshoot after.

LipstickMystic aka Jennifer